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Do You think that the camera in S9 will be minimum or much better than in S8?

Do You think that the camera in S9 will be minimum or much better than in S8?

Well I mean, the only details Samsung has officially released about the S9 itself is "The camera, reimagined," so uh yeah

Minimal change, with some new effect of a selfie or something like that.

Coolyou said:
Minimal change, with some new effect of a selfie or something like that.
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I wonder if camera wise S9 (single)= Note8(double)
cause S9+(double) > Note8 (double)

It already revealed that is has super slow motion (f/1.5, 26mm, 1/2.5", 1.4 µm, Dual Pixel PDAF)

Considering I always put a custom AOSP-based ROM on my phones, I've sort of lost hope in having a decent camera. Because of... reasons... you lose out on the amazing camera capabilities if you don't run a stock ROM. It's quite depressing knowing the camera is far more-capable than what I'm getting out of it.

sremick said:
Considering I always put a custom AOSP-based ROM on my phones, I've sort of lost hope in having a decent camera. Because of... reasons... you lose out on the amazing camera capabilities if you don't run a stock ROM. It's quite depressing knowing the camera is far more-capable than what I'm getting out of it.
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That really suxx. But wasn't it always like that in Samsung phones? And in others?

androidbadboy said:
That really suxx. But wasn't it always like that in Samsung phones? And in others?
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As a former Sony user, I can say it's the same on there. Something related to DRM-Protected drivers.

R!n said:
As a former Sony user, I can say it's the same on there. Something related to DRM-Protected drivers.
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But that happend since S8 or was always the problem in all Samsung phones?

androidbadboy said:
But that happend since S8 or was always the problem in all Samsung phones?
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I can't really say, I never owned a Galaxy since the S2. Was looking to see if the S9+ ends up being better than the Mate 10, or at least drop the price of the Note 8.

R!n said:
I can't really say, I never owned a Galaxy since the S2. Was looking to see if the S9+ ends up being better than the Mate 10, or at least drop the price of the Note 8.
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So Mate 10 is better than S8/S8+ ?! In what may I ask? Seriously, no hard feelings and irony here.

androidbadboy said:
So Mate 10 is better than S8/S8+ ?! In what may I ask? Seriously, no hard feelings and irony here.
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Mainly just the camera. Performance-wise the Mate 10 lacks in numbers, but it still feels just as snappy.
The monochrome cameras are great, and the camera app's pro mode is really nice to take some great pictures with. I especially fell in love with the 30s exposure.

R!n said:
Mainly just the camera. Performance-wise the Mate 10 lacks in numbers, but it still feels just as snappy.
The monochrome cameras are great, and the camera app's pro mode is really nice to take some great pictures with. I especially fell in love with the 30s exposure.
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Dude! Please help me out here. Is the camera pics and recording better in Mate 10 than in S8/S8+ are U 100% suer?
Cuz if that's true I may buy that phone,

androidbadboy said:
Dude! Please help me out here. Is the camera pics and recording better in Mate 10 than in S8/S8+ are U 100% suer?
Cuz if that's true I may buy that phone,
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Photos yes, video recording not so much, not sure why.
Also be aware that the Mate 10 Pro does not have a 3.5mm jack or SD card slot, but 256GB internal memory instead.

R!n said:
Photos yes, video recording not so much, not sure why.
Also be aware that the Mate 10 Pro does not have a 3.5mm jack or SD card slot, but 256GB internal memory instead.
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How about Note8, are thie pics from Mate also better than Galaxy Note8?

Nope camera won't be good until they overcome the hardware limitation, 12 mega pixels are good, but when you see the pics on computer or zoom in then you see the blur and weakness of 12 mp camera but i know that in past 22 megapixels sonys have really bad image quality because it doesn't depend solely on increased mp, but for a real upgrade now they need to increase megapixels while still retaining same image quality, atleast 20 megapixel and still a large aperture size is the only thing that can push me to upgrade, other than that, front facing fingerprint scanner and atleast 3600+ mah battery is a must, but its still nice that they added stereo speakers, i would like to see fm radio and infrared back too. Btw both exynos 9810 and snapdragon 845 are still far behind from apple's A12 bionic chip, both in terms of processor and gpu performance. So a hard choice which to upgrade atm.
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shah22 said:
Nope camera won't be good until they overcome the hardware limitation, 12 mega pixels are good, but when you see the pics on computer or zoom in then you see the blur and weakness of 12 mp camera but i know that in past 22 megapixels sonys have really bad image quality because it doesn't depend solely on increased mp, but for a real upgrade now they need to increase megapixels while still retaining same image quality, atleast 20 megapixel and still a large aperture size is the only thing that can push me to upgrade, other than that, front facing fingerprint scanner and atleast 3600+ mah battery is a must, but its still nice that they added stereo speakers, i would like to see fm radio and infrared back too. Btw both exynos 9810 and snapdragon 845 are still far behind from apple's A12 bionic chip, both in terms of processor and gpu performance. So a hard choice which to upgrade atm.
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So You wouldnt upgrade to Mate 10 PRo, S9/s9+ and Apple X from S7 Edge?
How about if you have had S6EPlus ? would You upgrade then? If yes to which phone?

Some general points.
Megapixels has nothing to do with it really. It's the size of the sensor. I do have it on good authority though that at least one of the well known brands is working on a halo product with a 1" sensor. But expect it to cost the earth, if it sees the light of day, and to be much thicker than today's flagships.
Probably the P20 with its triple camera sensor (likely interpolated into single auto HDR images) and software collaboration with Leica is likely to be the best bet for photography this year. But expect to get *at best* dual camera support on custom ROMs (if OpenCamera / LineageCamera / GoogleCamera begin supporting dual configs).
S9 and S9+ will probably show quite a bit of improvement in low light, and autofocus.
I really wish Samsung would allow Samsung Camera to run on their phones that run AOSP / custom ROMs. I can see why Sony, and to some extent Huawei won't, as smaller players with niches. But Samsung are the market leader and could still attach function to hardware IDs, rather than allowing it to work on competitors' phones.
If Nokia / HMD keep improving sales, I'm pretty sure you'll see Pureview, or something similar resurrected. Protos / designs are certainly being looked at, but likely depend on them continuing to build momentum. If they have a good 2018, expect to see something from them in 2019 with 4-6+ rear camera sensors ... bit like a mini L16. But, again, expect them to lock the software to their stock ROM.

mudnightoil said:
Some general points.
Megapixels has nothing to do with it really. It's the size of the sensor. I do have it on good authority though that at least one of the well known brands is working on a halo product with a 1" sensor. But expect it to cost the earth, if it sees the light of day, and to be much thicker than today's flagships.
Probably the P20 with its triple camera sensor (likely interpolated into single auto HDR images) and software collaboration with Leica is likely to be the best bet for photography this year. But expect to get *at best* dual camera support on custom ROMs (if OpenCamera / LineageCamera / GoogleCamera begin supporting dual configs).
S9 and S9+ will probably show quite a bit of improvement in low light, and autofocus.
I really wish Samsung would allow Samsung Camera to run on their phones that run AOSP / custom ROMs. I can see why Sony, and to some extent Huawei won't, as smaller players with niches. But Samsung are the market leader and could still attach function to hardware IDs, rather than allowing it to work on competitors' phones.
If Nokia / HMD keep improving sales, I'm pretty sure you'll see Pureview, or something similar resurrected. Protos / designs are certainly being looked at, but likely depend on them continuing to build momentum. If they have a good 2018, expect to see something from them in 2019 with 4-6+ rear camera sensors ... bit like a mini L16. But, again, expect them to lock the software to their stock ROM.
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Thanks and wow for that massive knowledge. I wonder what P20 will bring to the table with their 5 cams. 27th March is the premiere. How much will it cost in Your opinion. EUR or USD please if possible and add with or without tax.

I'm almost exclusively interested in the video camera capabilities of the S9+. I can manage with a mediocre photo camera but video needs to be class-leading in smartphones.
Ability to shoot UHD video in h.265 compression + much better low light performance than Note 4 = I'd be very happy.
Sadly LG put an undersized sensor in their V30 (not to mention the sucky POLED display) - otherwise I might grab a V30 right now for a good price. I wonder what LG has in store for the V40, given their focus on video shooting prowess.

Getting a LG V30 in 2019

Well, what should i say? I'm a ex LG G5 User, tripped over to a Axon 7, Xperia XZ Premium, Pixel 2 XL, Mix 2, Galaxy S9+ and now... Back to LG. I reall like the Design of the V30. The Hardware is still in competition with Devices like the OnePlus 7 Pro (Maybe beyond with Dolby and the Audio), and that for 200€ + 64Gb Card. Here is the Point.
What do You like for/on the V30? Stock ROM (Pie) or do You prefer AOSP? I will Support this Device once it's in My Hands...
Looking Forward to get the best Out of this great Device!

Miustone said:
Well, what should i say? I'm a ex LG G5 User, tripped over to a Axon 7, Xperia XZ Premium, Pixel 2 XL, Mix 2, Galaxy S9+ and now... Back to LG. I reall like the Design of the V30. The Hardware is still in competition with Devices like the OnePlus 7 Pro (Maybe beyond with Dolby and the Audio), and that for 200€ + 64Gb Card. Here is the Point.
What do You like for/on the V30? Stock ROM (Pie) or do You prefer AOSP? I will Support this Device once it's in My Hands...
Looking Forward to get the best Out of this great Device!
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I stay on aosp. It squeeze an avergare of 9+ sot out of a 3300 batter.y . Though v30 can't compare cpu to op7 pro, but gaming is ok for me

I think v30 is a still solid phone in 2k19. Sd835 4 gb ram and 64gb rom with expandable storage. Great cameras. Selfie is garbage but good enough when u use gcam. Still a competitor

Miustone said:
Well, what should i say? I'm a ex LG G5 User, tripped over to a Axon 7, Xperia XZ Premium, Pixel 2 XL, Mix 2, Galaxy S9+ and now... Back to LG. I reall like the Design of the V30. The Hardware is still in competition with Devices like the OnePlus 7 Pro (Maybe beyond with Dolby and the Audio), and that for 200€ + 64Gb Card. Here is the Point.
What do You like for/on the V30? Stock ROM (Pie) or do You prefer AOSP? I will Support this Device once it's in My Hands...
Looking Forward to get the best Out of this great Device!
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I think it's a great phone for the price.
Amazing rear camera.
Qhd amoled display.
I switch between stock and aosp.
Audio features are amazing.
Battery life break.
The only thing is front camera is not on par with newer phones and even with SD835 gaming is still good for me.

Miustone said:
Well, what should i say? I'm a ex LG G5 User, tripped over to a Axon 7, Xperia XZ Premium, Pixel 2 XL, Mix 2, Galaxy S9+ and now... Back to LG. I reall like the Design of the V30. The Hardware is still in competition with Devices like the OnePlus 7 Pro (Maybe beyond with Dolby and the Audio), and that for 200€ + 64Gb Card. Here is the Point.
What do You like for/on the V30? Stock ROM (Pie) or do You prefer AOSP? I will Support this Device once it's in My Hands...
Looking Forward to get the best Out of this great Device!
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Go for the V30+, 128GB. Here in the U.S. you can get mint V30+ for $160.
I stay on stock rooted firmware, with Magisk mods. Pie is still being rolled out to all the variants.
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LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo (with root to enable LG libs)
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch

Got the V30S+ in 2019 (H930DS variant) and am completely satisfied with it. 256 GB storage and 6GB RAM with the SD835 is really plenty of resource for at least a couple of years.

ChazzMatt said:
Go for the V30+, 128GB. Here in the U.S. you can get mint V30+ for $160.
I stay on stock rooted firmware, with Magisk mods. Pie is still being rolled out to all the variants.
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* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo(with root to enable LG libs)
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
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What magisk mods do you use? I haven't installed any yet and wanted to know which mods are popular.
Thanks.

Getting My Device tomorrow. It's a H930, and i've already reactivated My LG Account for the BL unlock.
Glad to hear that i'm Not alone with My Opinion so far.
Think it will make a lot of fun to Develop for this Baby

Miustone said:
Getting My Device tomorrow.
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Welcome aboard!
Miustone said:
i've already reactivated My LG Account for the BL unlock.
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If you do it that way, you willingly waive warranty to get LG bootloader unlock code.
If you use WTF instructions to unlock bootloader, you don't tell LG you wish to waive warranty. You don't need their permission.
Your choice.
I did it the official way for one of my US998 until WTF became available.
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154

Stock rooted (Magisk) Oreo on my H931 converted to a US998, not one issue, 9+ hours of SOT effectively every charge if I want it, even hit 17+ one time (seriously).
Not interested in Pie at all, it'll probably be nothing but problems since Oreo is so mature now and Pie really offers nothing of any consequence or new that matters at all to me.
The V30 is damned near perfect, really. Sure, the stock camera software is a bit yucky, sadly, but aside from that (Gcam has some ports that work great and provide much better image quality) it's pretty much the best smartphone I've ever owned - and I've owned over 300 of 'em over the years (yes that means 300 different ones).
Honestly I still miss the LG G4, best camera assembly ever IMO, even to this day there was just something truly magical about that hardware and software combination that took pics I still can't improve on with even the newest cameras in the latest smartphones. It was just so oddly unique, a seriously awesome happy coincidence that I'll miss for a long time.

br0adband said:
Stock rooted (Magisk) Oreo on my H931 converted to a US998, not one issue, 9+ hours of SOT effectively every charge if I want it, even hit 17+ one time (seriously).
Not interested in Pie at all, it'll probably be nothing but problems since Oreo is so mature now and Pie really offers nothing of any consequence or new that matters at all to me.
The V30 is damned near perfect, really. Sure, the stock camera software is a bit yucky, sadly, but aside from that (Gcam has some ports that work great and provide much better image quality) it's pretty much the best smartphone I've ever owned - and I've owned over 300 of 'em over the years (yes that means 300 different ones).
Honestly I still miss the LG G4, best camera assembly ever IMO, even to this day there was just something truly magical about that hardware and software combination that took pics I still can't improve on with even the newest cameras in the latest smartphones. It was just so oddly unique, a seriously awesome happy coincidence that I'll miss for a long time.
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How the heck do you guys get suck long SOT times. I'm at 4 hours.

s2jpark said:
How the heck do you guys get suck long SOT times. I'm at 4 hours.
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No gaming and mostly wifi, low brightness with dark theme help

s2jpark said:
What magisk mods do you use? I haven't installed any yet and wanted to know which mods are popular.
Thanks.
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How the heck do you guys get suck long SOT times. I'm at 4 hours.
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I get around 4-5 hours sot with a lot of gaming.

The V30 is perfect almost everything you'd want . Only gripe is the speaker and maybe camera lacking a bit.

Mrxyzl said:
No gaming and mostly wifi, low brightness with dark theme help
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Got it. I have to tone down the brawl stars

s2jpark said:
How the heck do you guys get suck long SOT times. I'm at 4 hours.
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I don't play games, but I recently did get a Daydream View VR headset from another member here (thanks again!) and was playing with that a few days ago when it arrived. Still haven't installed any games on it and I may never do it, it's more of something to experiment with than anything else.
Dark theme as already mentioned (I'm on Oreo so the LG G8 dark theme on the Play Store works fine, I know the Pie update breaks some aspects but I think there's a fix for it somewhere that I saw mention of). I use dark themes with every app that I can - I keep my brightness at 50% always except for instances where I'm in a really bright environment like outdoors or someplace with excessive fluorescent lighting (at never more than 90% brightness) or watching videos (75%). NEVER use 100% brightness, seriously, it's a waste of power and the OLED display in the V30 doesn't like it, no OLEDs do really, the 90% point (tap the brightness icon on the notification dropdown once or twice and you'll see it) is more than enough.
I don't use Bluetooth save for the Daydream View thing but that was just for a few hours and honestly I kept the damned phone plugged in (thank some higher power for long USB-C cables) when I did it. I only use Google Voice for my "phone calls" and texts so I rarely ever enable the cellular at home and only when I'm out.
I kill apps I'm not using, don't care how efficient the Snapdragon 835 might be, or Oreo, if I'm not using an app it's not gonna sit there so my recent apps list is almost always empty. I don't use social media crap like Facebook, Twitter, Whatsapp, Instagram, etc, just Discord and Hangouts to keep in touch with people, and a lot of Flipboard and Google News activity but really that's pretty much it.
Biggest tip: TURN DOWN THE DAMNED BRIGHTNESS. Seriously. Run it at 50% or even less as often as you possibly can, disable auto-brightness, and learn to not use more than necessary - the brightness of the display is still the single largest waste of power on smartphones in general and it can be cut in half or more by just lowering it and not having max brightness all the time like I see so many people do.

So i really see a hard decision Here again like on Xperias.
Stock feels good to me and has some nice Features Like the DAC Switch. But AOSP will give extra Battery Life and LG was slow with the Updates. Android Q will be a huge Update that comes These Days and i'm not even sure If the V30 will get it officially one Day. So in View of Support would it make more Sense for Me to Work with AOSP in theory...
Will unlock My Baby today and Play a bit around. Thanks for all the Input Folks! Feels already good to be here in the Forum

Greetings all.
I'm in dilemma so I need your advice. Little background first.
Had the LG g5 h850, Was completely pleased with it, until I smashed it by accident. Went to a sammy s9+, which is a very good all around phone..
However, I'm considering coming back to LG.
The exynos devices have next to 0 gcam support wheres Gcam on the G5 was just perfect. no need to edit the pictures after, the color balance was great, very sharp, plus night mode.
I barely play games, so I doubt the older chipset will matter.
My only concern is about the 4 gigs of ram since i heavily multitask.
I can find the us998 vesrion for around 170e refurb from china but I can't find the 6 gig version, Was it sold only in the US or something?
Anyhow my choices are
LG v30 refurb - 170e
new xiaomi Mi mix 2s - 250
new redmi k20 pro - 300
I'm more inclined to go for the v30, what would you do?

Cruel, can't unlock My Device because My Surface Pro 3 can't handle the Power from the USB3.1 V30 Port in Fastboot. Windows said: "Overpowered USB Connection" once i rebooted into the Bootloader... Any Suggestions? Or do i need to use a modern PC?

How about using a crappy cord?

Question is the OnePlus 9pro still Worth getting

im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice

If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.

JesusOmarMJ23 said:
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro

As with most other devices, A12 roms are unlikely to be available until after the OOS 12 ROM is released (GA, not Beta).
There are lots of good A11 ROMs out there, and the phone itself (LE2125) is excellent. The stock OOS 11 is also very very good.
But hey, doesn't affect me one way or another what phone/ROM you use. I'm very happy with what I have!
Cheers

JesusOmarMJ23 said:
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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A12 OOS official isn't out yet and most devs actually prefer to use finished sources before releasing anything to public. I'm sure some are building ROM's off the beta builds for testing but not releasing them. Also, only some people seem to have issues with the battery, heat, etc. I (and others) have no such issues with our 9pros even on stock OOS. I would suggest the phone to anyone honestly.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...

Wait for what ? OnePlus 10 ?
OnePlus 8 pro Oxygen OS too will get worse because of google BS.
About roms look in Development section.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.

The answer for you will depend on your priorities ;-)
I needed a phone recently and found an open box 9 Pro on ebay within my budget. I wouldn't have bought this phone at msrp. My experience has overall been positive. The only time I've overheated the phone was transferring about 80 GB from my old phone before realizing both were on a heat soaked surface. Putting the phone where it could breathe resolved this. Even with extended gaming sessions, the phone has run cool since. Battery life more than meets my daily needs. PD support is ideal as that's what my pc uses at work, so I don't worry about carrying a charger. A 10 min top up at 45W from PD or 65W from the stock charger is a game changer. Going from 20-90% in ~12 mins on the included charger while making coffee & breakfast is great!
Note on battery life: I tend to power off my device for a few mins a couple times each month for consistency. Especially after the primary Google Assistant app updates (this one).
I'm a photography enthusiast and have been generally happy with the 9 Pro IQ. If you do end up getting this phone or the OP9, take some time to review the different options (like Photo, Pro, Portrait) and settings - they are extensive and can be fine tuned for your use case. Be sure to take some test shots to dial this in.
The biggest shortcoming is the selfie cam, which has low dynamic range, easily washing out. I installed gcam MGC by BSG (currently v8.1.101) and it takes much better selfie shots. For the rear facing sensors, the stock camera app vs. gcam HDR+ generally show parity.
My partner has a Pixel 5 so using her phone for selfies is also an option. I prefer the FOV on the OP tho.
The screen is gorgeous! I tried 60 hz vs 120 hz with lpto and noted little effect on battery life, so have remained on the latter. I've found FHD+ meets my needs as the screen size shows little benefit bumping up to QHD+. I appreciate the stock Screen Calibration options and find Advanced > AMOLED Wide Gamut gives the color palette I prefer.
Two things requiring workarounds for my use:
a) My previous phone had a notification light, which I used more than I realized. Rather than turn the screen on periodically, I enabled the Always on Display during my waking hours, problem solved.
b) Historically I've traveled internationally for work, so having dual sims has been a must. It looks like there is work from XDA devs underway to enable this if OP doesn't themselves. Otherwise my partner has an old mobile hotspot from her job I'll commandeer when/if work travel resumes.
Reviews that helped me make an informed decision:
o XDA Devs : of course!
o Notebookcheck
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePl...end-phone-charges-twice-as-fast.530399.0.html
o GSM Arena review and comparison to other phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_9_pro-10806.php
o Photography Blog
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/oneplus_9_pro_review
o Danny Winget Youtube firmware comparison
Hope this helps!

In a lot of ways, the OnePlus 9 Pro is a great phone, with a super-smooth screen, the fastest wired and wireless charging, pleasant software, with a solid long-term update commitment. I even enjoy the camera.

aman2125 said:
Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.
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Horrible advice

RumRunner19 said:
Horrible advice
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In hindsight; you may be right.
But, still, thermal issues are for sure my biggest gripe.
Besides, yeah, I do feel it is a good device, but getting it over Oneplus 9 or 9RT would depend on the user's preferences.

If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.

cultofluna said:
DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...
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Is it available for sale?

vangry2020 said:
If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose

cranberry_vanilla said:
It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose
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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.

vangry2020 said:
Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.
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Nobody really knows yet. Since Pixel 6 series is using a new in-house cpu (Tensor) and there are no reviews out yet (product ships on 10/28) so no one really knows what it's going to really perform like. I also would be curious if/how easy it will be to root or unlock bootloader since it's a totally different CPU architecture.

I came from a OnePlus 3T. Overall I think this phone is great, the camera and functionality is slick. I also appreciate that having the phone on max performance levels, screen brightness and sync enabled will impact the battery.
I like that it has an active community here, and on the OnePlus forums. I've logged a few bugs and evidenced how to recreate them. Am I unhappy about the companies communication style, not being open about throttling etc, yes. However I understand that people are human and make mistakes. It's still a young device released 6 months ago. Let's see where we are in a year from now

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Funny enough, I was thinking recently if I should get the 8 pro as well. Specifically for rooting/custom ROMs. I'm currently using a OP6T (rooted with CrDroid ROM), I can literally get the 8 Pro for free with a screen protector + case and some cash left from my £500 Amazon giftcard. But I just don't know if I should get a 8 pro or not and I can't justify the purchase tbh

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Be careful. I am not able to send text msgs randomly I am on Sprint/T-Mobile and nothing works. It's why I'm trying to get the 9 pro.

Question What is the reason you purchased the A52S 5g?

What prompted the purchase of this phone for you? I'll go first
I liked that it has a 64 mega pixel camera although it was a little disappointing there was no ability to do any zoom on pictures. The better processor was another reason and the price for what I was getting I liked. Lastly screen size is decent. So far after 5 months use, I'm still pretty satisfied. How about you?

I purchase a A52S because my old Galaxy s4 died after 8 years of use...

TTmouse said:
I purchase a A52S because my old Galaxy s4 died after 8 years of use...
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My S4 still works but I use it for music in back yard stereo system... sorry yours died..

I chose it because it was literally the perfect phone. The Samsung One UI, The display, and everything about the phone. Personally it looks very good in black. Plus for the fact that they sold it for 3500 SEK. (approximately 350EUR)
I’ve been using it for the past 4 months and I have to say this phone is very, very good.

ALWA7SH6 said:
Hur länge håller batteriet med dig?
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english please, as per XDA regulations...

ALWA7SH6 said:
Hur länge håller batteriet med dig?
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Just like bobfrantic said, English only.
Anyways, It is pretty good. About 6-7h with 120hz and 7-8 with 60hz.
This is for pretty light use though.

before buying it, check that the mobile phone has the following requirements :
Root
work all app i use ( app bank etc... )
Snapdragon CPU only, more powerful than what I had before
the best it offered me as value for money was a52s, the audio jack is an addition that I didn't think necessary, but I wanted a smartphone with an under-screen imprint.
the other choice was the realme gt master edition but it could not be rooted safely and therefore the only choice at the moment on the market valid for me was the a52s

I bought it because:
Security updates: Samsung will offer security updates until 2025, four years after launch, and tends to provide timely updates. For work email/calendar my phone needs to have security updates no older than three months.
Price: Got it for £220 used off eBay. Price is right.
Removable microSD card: I insist on removable storage.
Headphone port: I insist on a 3.5mm headphone port.
Better than A53: I'd have gotten the A53 instead if it had been better, but it was not better. It was worse.
Optical Image Stabilization: I actually care very little about the camera. One thing I do care about is having OIS for picture stability especially in low light.
I came from a Motorola One Vision towards the end of its security update life. I actually liked that phone better (mostly because of a stock Android One feel, and I'm not a fan of an in-screen fingerprint reader, I like rear-mounted fingerprint readers, perfect for a finger when holding the phone), but it was only a matter of time before it stopped getting security updates. And Android One is practically dead.

obs3rv said:
I bought it because:
Security updates: Samsung will offer security updates until 2025, four years after launch, and tends to provide timely updates. For work email/calendar my phone needs to have security updates no older than three months.
Price: Got it for £220 used off eBay. Price is right.
Removable microSD card: I insist on removable storage.
Headphone port: I insist on a 3.5mm headphone port.
Better than A53: I'd have gotten the A53 instead if it had been better, but it was not better. It was worse.
Optical Image Stabilization: I actually care very little about the camera. One thing I do care about is having OIS for picture stability especially in low light.
I came from a Motorola One Vision towards the end of its security update life. I actually liked that phone better (mostly because of a stock Android One feel, and I'm not a fan of an in-screen fingerprint reader, I like rear-mounted fingerprint readers, perfect for a finger when holding the phone), but it was only a matter of time before it stopped getting security updates. And Android One is practically dead.
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I agree with you about the A53, comparison on gsmarena with this phone showed me the a53 would be a step backwards. Samsung missed the mark this time... And I got my A52S from my provider for 199€ with their discount. I only have to stay a customer for 2 years but that no problem for me.

Arobase40 said:
Don't understand how you can say there is no ability to do any zoom on pictures when this is not the truth ?!?!?!
With recorded pictures it's pretty easy to do zoom with Samsung Gallery (not sure this is the real name of the app) and in the Camera app you can zoom by 10x and you also have a macro option... ^^
Otherwise I got the A51 phone before but it was not compatible with 700MHz bandwidth used mostly by a single French carrier : Free Mobile and I'm changing of carriers almost every year depending on the promotion...
In France we have the lowest price for mobile or fiber internet subscriptions...
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While taking pictures with camera set to 3x4 64 mpx you cannot use the zoom. All other modes for pictures you do have zoom. And sure once in gallery you can you can zoom any pic of course.

For me 2 things matter in this acquisition . Brand and price . First I was disappointed regarding some punctual things compared to other new phone I bought also (OnePlus Nord 2) but after A 12 and One UI 4.1 update , A52s was improved and now I'm some kind pleased of it . Finnaly , I'm going to sell it after a short while ...

bobfrantic said:
My S4 still works but I use it for music in back yard stereo system... sorry yours died..
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My old S5 which my mom used since 2020 just died a few days ago & I'll probably buy her an A52s as it's better than the A53 and would be better than the A54 too lol
Overall I'm amazed my S5 survived for almost 8 years 5 of which with me (and I did literally everything that could be done to it xd). She dropped it and this time the screen turned white with some small colored dots on it and the phone bootloops. It's time to let it go, was a great phone these almost 8 years

Geoperson8 said:
Just like bobfrantic said, English only.
Anyways, It is pretty good. About 6-7h with 120hz and 7-8 with 60hz.
This is for pretty light use though.
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bruh, not gonna lie, that kinda sucks... my 2yo+ xiaomi mi 9t with lineageos lasts for around 2 days with normal usage, but it used to keep up to 4 days...
typical usage: chat, social media, memes during the day and some 1-2hrs of yt or streaming tv shows before bedtime, but no unnecessary bull**** like bluetooth, nfc etc (unless needed) and no background usage meaning apps are closed whenever I don't use them

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bruh, not gonna lie, that kinda sucks... my 2yo+ xiaomi mi 9t with lineageos lasts for around 2 days with normal usage, but it used to keep up to 4 days...
typical usage: chat, social media, memes during the day and some 1-2hrs of yt or streaming tv shows before bedtime, but no unnecessary bull**** like bluetooth, nfc etc (unless needed) and no background usage meaning apps are closed whenever I don't use them
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Lineage in general should give A52s better SOT as well. Still in the works though.

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I purchase a A52S because my old Galaxy s4 died after 8 years of use...
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My condolences.
I own a Galaxy S4 too. Quite one of the best phones and mine died too....
I might try again to revive it in the future as the oldschool smartphone.
I was able to revive it temporalily couple years ago with a hairdryer blowing hot air on the mobo and made it work for a while and backed everything up. True story

My Poco X3's camera performance annoyed me beyond belief, so I got the A52s as the best all rounder, and didn't want to spend more money than needed.
Fortunately, my financials improved so I might just ditch it for the S23 Ultra when it's out.

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I purchase a A52S because my old Galaxy s4 died after 8 years of use...
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Talk about reliability

bobfrantic said:
While taking pictures with camera set to 3x4 64 mpx you cannot use the zoom. All other modes for pictures you do have zoom. And sure once in gallery you can you can zoom any pic of course.
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Question Anyone upgrade from 8T, is it worth it?

Hi, all.
Had my 8T since Dec 2020 (longest ever for a device), and just can't find a device worth upgrading to. Anyone here jumped to 11 and thinks it was worth it?
Thanks!

I made the jump from the 8T to the 11 and I like it (mostly). The phone is super-fast and the software is pretty darn good. I'm starting to get antsy for some custom ROM's though (eg: paranoid android, pixel extended, etc).
The only thing I didn't really like (at the beginning) was the waterfall display on the edges. I don't really notice it any more but (personally) I prefer flat displays.

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I made the jump from the 8T to the 11 and I like it (mostly). The phone is super-fast and the software is pretty darn good. I'm starting to get antsy for some custom ROM's though (eg: paranoid android, pixel extended, etc).
The only thing I didn't really like (at the beginning) was the waterfall display on the edges. I don't really notice it any more but (personally) I prefer flat displays.
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Good deal. I just feel like 8T is still plenty fast until they discontinue the update support here in a year or so. How's the camera on 11?

1. This is not OxygenOS. I wouldn't say it's complete crap but it's leaves a lot to be desired.
2. Battery life is poor.
3. Camera is barely any better than for my even older than yours OnePlus.
4. Yeah, it's fast, too bad it's overheating even when using light apps like Google Maps.
I've no idea what to upgrade to but I'm not a fan of OnePlus 11 by a long shot. I've heard some Lenovo/Motorola and Asus phones feature a ROM which is close to stock Android.
Oh, and the Pixel 7 Pro is certainly an option as well, though stock Google Android is missing a ton of features from OxygenOS, even simple ones such as double tap to wake (it can be single tapped to wake but that leads to an extreme number of unnecessary wake up's).

I can't recommend it.
I have 8T and with the update to A13 it went way down in terms of sw quality :/
That worse sw quality + unreliable USB-C connecter made me looking for other devices.
After watching some reviews I got an incorrect impression that the OS/SW is better on OnePlus11...
But it's not...
- constantly fighting with android auto, when you connect the phone to your car, usually 1st attempt works, 2nd and any following doesn't and you need to do some dance like usb debug enable/disable or reboot to make it working...
- now with latest update, it has broken pressed state so most of apps don't have it visible
- whole UI is weirdly bloated, I prefer more dense content, I was already using the custom DPI value to override it, now the number must be even higher, but this value doesn't survive reboot... what a pain, if I have to reboot every other day...
- Notifications UX is somehow weird comparing to pixel 7 with A13, I have hard time to just dismiss it by swiping it out, very annoying.
- I don't like much the oneplus photos app, so I just disable it to get rid of it. What a surprise to see that the camera app has the oneplus photos app hardwired, so it it doesn't open any photos app, so I had to reenable it back again just to be able to see a history of photos directly from camera app...

Thanks, guys. My wife has a pixel 7 (non-pro) and I don't like it at all lol I hear youtubers raging about xiaomi and other Chinese phones (hell, OP is one also), but I'm on the fence on those due to security and update support.
Is Samsung any better than when it had that weird UI back in the day?

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Thanks, guys. My wife has a pixel 7 (non-pro) and I don't like it at all lol I hear youtubers raging about xiaomi and other Chinese phones (hell, OP is one also), but I'm on the fence on those due to security and update support.
Is Samsung any better than when it had that weird UI back in the day?
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I can't recommend it.
I have 8T and with the update to A13 it went way down in terms of sw quality :/
That worse sw quality + unreliable USB-C connecter made me looking for other devices.
After watching some reviews I got an incorrect impression that the OS/SW is better on OnePlus11...
But it's not...
- constantly fighting with android auto, when you connect the phone to your car, usually 1st attempt works, 2nd and any following doesn't and you need to do some dance like usb debug enable/disable or reboot to make it working...
- now with latest update, it has broken pressed state so most of apps don't have it visible
- whole UI is weirdly bloated, I prefer more dense content, I was already using the custom DPI value to override it, now the number must be even higher, but this value doesn't survive reboot... what a pain, if I have to reboot every other day...
- Notifications UX is somehow weird comparing to pixel 7 with A13, I have hard time to just dismiss it by swiping it out, very annoying.
- I don't like much the oneplus photos app, so I just disable it to get rid of it. What a surprise to see that the camera app has the oneplus photos app hardwired, so it it doesn't open any photos app, so I had to reenable it back again just to be able to see a history of photos directly from camera app...
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I must be one of the lucky ones because I haven't had any issues with the USB charger, battery life (I can get almost 2 full days if I really stretch it out), Android Auto, the notifications or the photo app. I agree that it's not the Oxygen OS we've grown accustomed to but it's not the worst thing in the world (in my opinion).
But to each his own. Everyone has to make their own decision on what they can live with and what they can't.
I'd love to have a Pixel for the streamlined OS but the charging speed to stupid slow compared to the OnePlus 11 (hell, even the OnePlus 8t is way faster at charging). The camera on the OnePlus 11 is (for me) fine for the daily quick photo but I have a Canon DSLR that I use if I really want a good photo.
RussianBear, my suggestion is the try the OnePlus 11. If you like it, great. If not, send it back.

I just can't seem to justify paying full retail for this thing. It'd have to be that much better than 8T for me to drop near 1k (looking for max specs) on a new phone. Their 100 day gimmick is cool, tho lol

birdie said:
1. This is not OxygenOS. I wouldn't say it's complete crap but it's leaves a lot to be desired.
2. Battery life is poor.
3. Camera is barely any better than for my even older than yours OnePlus.
4. Yeah, it's fast, too bad it's overheating even when using light apps like Google Maps.
I've no idea what to upgrade to but I'm not a fan of OnePlus 11 by a long shot. I've heard some Lenovo/Motorola and Asus phones feature a ROM which is close to stock Android.
Oh, and the Pixel 7 Pro is certainly an option as well, though stock Google Android is missing a ton of features from OxygenOS, even simple ones such as double tap to wake (it can be single tapped to wake but that leads to an extreme number of unnecessary wake up's).
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I have 10-9hrs average screen on time while traveling.
Nothing overheats while having gps navigation active during my trips.
SOT are great, especially when I switched from OP7Pro.

I enjoy using my OnePlus 11, it's my first day to day device back with Android since I left behind the 6T and went to the iPhone lol The camera has improved to the point where it can be in the conversation with the Pixel and Galaxy phones, OxygenOS isn't as clunky as I thought it would be, and 80W charging is amazing.

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I enjoy using my OnePlus 11, it's my first day to day device back with Android since I left behind the 6T and went to the iPhone lol The camera has improved to the point where it can be in the conversation with the Pixel and Galaxy phones, OxygenOS isn't as clunky as I thought it would be, and 80W charging is amazing.
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I jumped from 6T to 8T

Camera is snappier, fast charging, more battery, faster device.

I moved from OP8T to OP11, and the first big thing is the vastly superior battery life of the 11.
Wiht my OP8T I had grown used to the idea that i would need to take a powerbank with me if i was going to be out all day, and that it would need to be left on charge overnight to ensure it was full in the morning - before going out for day , my new OP11 - at the moment easily lasts all day - and no longer needs an overnight charge
So OP11 has
better battery life
much nicer screen
its faster/ more responsive
havent had enough time to use the camera yet - but first impressions are its an improvement over the 8T

I have the 11 and 8T and much prefer my 8T. I'm actually actively trying to sell my 11. I probably would have a different opinion if OnePlus didn't take away a person's rights to fix their phones themselves with MSM, but that's mostly an Oppo issue. I tinker with my 8T because I know if I botch something, MSM will save my ass.

RussianBear said:
I just can't seem to justify paying full retail for this thing. It'd have to be that much better than 8T for me to drop near 1k (looking for max specs) on a new phone. Their 100 day gimmick is cool, tho lol
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Then you can wait a bit for a lower price and I think the 100 day offer ended on April 30th. I've upgraded from both OP6 and 9 and I think it was worth it. Some people have hardware issues as it happens with any brand, while some just need a factory reset to straight up things. Everything is running perfectly here. Everything launches faster, haven't had heat issues, not even with Maps and the five year updates gives the thing longevity. Battery life is also lasting much more than OP9 despite using OOS. The only thing I wish is to once more have tools like MSM publicly available and of course, custom development which might come one day.