I have a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 that I haven't used that much in the past few years. When I have turned it on (last time, 6 months ago), it was incredibly slow to respond to any touches. I am happy to root it now and apply a ROM. I've searched around already and found threads outlining a process for various ROMs; and other threads where people ask for "which ROM" advice. This is a similar thread I suppose.
I'm looking for a good, efficient ROM that will let me have a snappy, efficient tablet again. Actually, the battery still lasts quite a while on a charge, so I can only imagine it would get better with a good ROM.
I mainly want to be able to read PDFs / ebooks on it anymore... But web searching capability, and Netflix should still be possible.
Thoughts? Pointers to the right ROM for me, and a really good walkthrough for rooting and applying it?
Try this one with nano or pico gapps: https://download.exynos5420.com/LineageOS-14.1-Vanilla/chagallwifi/ it runs really well on my similar tab pro 10.1
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Today the USB port on my original AT&T Tilt bit the dust. I am considering just buying an external battery charger for it and perhaps an extra battery.
I am also considering the AT&T Tilt 2.
What I don't understand is this: practically every review of the phone on AT&T's website complains of a chronic freezing problem. I figured I'd check these forums for a solution, but there are very few mentions of a freezing problem here, so I'm very confused.
How can the vast majority of the reviews complain about freezing on AT&T's site, but the good people on these forums do not? Am I missing something? Is there really a problem? Would love to buy the phone, but not if I need to reboot it all day long.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
I have had no freezing problems with my device, and the only reasons I reboot are unrelated to freezing or instability. Though, to be fair, I had the AT&T stock ROM on my Rhodium for only a few hours before I flashed a cooked ROM.
I'd guess the reason the reviews discuss freezes while XDA doesn't is because the AT&T stock ROM, which the reviewers would be using, is filled with bloatware and for me had ~75% ram in use on the first boot, and isn't very fast at all.
Meanwhile, the vast majority of the people on this forum use cooked ROMs, which are lean and fast, have every possible speed tweak applied, and are otherwise optimized for the best possible performance. If you are coming from the AT&T Tilt, you will not be disappointed at all by this device.
yea, the stock phone sucks, takes forever to come on but after you download a good rom for it its awsome, I havent had mine freeze up yet, I have had to restart it a cople times duu to a program getting jamed and not going completly away but that was kinda my fault overall I give this phone an A++
I've been using the Tilt 2 for 4 days now on the stock ROM and haven't had any lag or freezing issues. I'm pretty impressed with it so far.
Tilt2 & stock AT&T ROM for me, had it over 8 weeks now. No freezes, no lags, good data speeds. I use MemMaid to clean up memory maybe once a day, and probably soft reset about once a week. I'm real happy with performance.
I've put on a lot of usability tweaks, but I won't put on a custom ROM until my warranty expires.
well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
polarbearmc said:
well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
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Besides the obligatory answers "download and try a few out yourself" and "your mileage may vary," when I first rooted this phone I had very good luck (speed, battery life, etc.) with the Jedi Invasion ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013568
Besides that, I've heard that the Wicked ROM is great as well as CM10 (10.1 is stable but has a few issues that would dissuade most who are not willing to be on the cutting edge).
yea you know since i posted the thread i've been reading up on the newest roms and Wicked looks pretty damn perfect. if i do decide to root i'm gonna go with that but i'd still love to get this thing working at least for the next few months, with less issues WITHOUT rooting for now... but thanks for the response.
I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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For your browser issue, try Dolphin Beta.
For games like Real Racing, it wasn't made for the S3, therefor, it can't achieve full gfx. A fix to the choopyness would be to look into custom ROMs (Either TW or AOSP based). If it's something that interest you, you have a lot of reading to do before jumping into it but once you understand how it works, it's fairly simple.
tw557 said:
I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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Some possible changes to make:
1. for browser, I use the AOSP browser because it is superior in speed and usability to any other browser I try
2. you could switch to another AOSP rom that will have less bloatware and no skin on top of it slowing it down (this will be slight change)
3. to fix laginess on certain points you can try flashing a different kernel with various tweaks that increase butteryness
4. root and overclock the minimum cpu frequency. While this won't help with graphics too much in games (thats GPU), it will help with laggy transitions. Be forewarned, this might decrease battery life depending on what you end up changing the minimum to
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Thanks for the quick reply. I did try different browers and did settle on the dolphin. It really seemed very little better then the stock browser but the stock browser has the RRS reader pop up in the bar if applicable and I like that feature like the iphone. Some of the choppy webpages are also somewhat choppy on an iphone too. just not as bad. I was hoping to not get into rooting and Roms and figured a stock S3 should be plenty good now. When you say that the games are now programmed for the S3. are they not programmed for the S3 or Android in general. Do these costom roms adjust the programming somehow. I assume not too much issue to do the root but not familiar in detail of the Rom procedures. Would downloading the S3 toolkit from here be a good starting point. Jailbreaking the Iphone was stupid easy.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I did try different browers and did settle on the dolphin. It really seemed very little better then the stock browser but the stock browser has the RRS reader pop up in the bar if applicable and I like that feature like the iphone. Some of the choppy webpages are also somewhat choppy on an iphone too. just not as bad. I was hoping to not get into rooting and Roms and figured a stock S3 should be plenty good now. When you say that the games are now programmed for the S3. are they not programmed for the S3 or Android in general. Do these costom roms adjust the programming somehow. I assume not too much issue to do the root but not familiar in detail of the Rom procedures. Would downloading the S3 toolkit from here be a good starting point. Jailbreaking the Iphone was stupid easy.
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It's really easy, just gotta read and understand what you're doing before going into it.
Getting a toolkit can be a start. Although, you can skip that and download pre-rooted stock ROM for your carrier.
Here's a good guide to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822308 - I would download GooManager from the market and install TWRP recovery instead of installing CWM recovery like that guide suggests. It's quite simple, just hit a couple buttons
Once you're rooted and have a custom recovery, you can install a ROM from the Dev section (TW or AOSP).
Thanks for all the input and direction to the thread on rooting and Roms. I am very good and can understand directions for this stuff just gets a little overwhelming researching this and seemingless see so many different methods with small variations and then through the word Bricking in too. I love to customize and make stuff my own so i'm pretty sure I will give this a try. Thanks
I am ready to give the rooting a try. I expected a little less confusion then what I'm seeing. I ran across the Casual tool which looked interesting as compared to the download drivers then odin and unziping files and such. As I looked over the list of computer systems I don't see Vista business listed. Will this be a problem. Also does it make a difference if ICS or jellybean. Thanks again
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I am ready to give the rooting a try. I expected a little less confusion then what I'm seeing. I ran across the Casual tool which looked interesting as compared to the download drivers then odin and unziping files and such. As I looked over the list of computer systems I don't see Vista business listed. Will this be a problem. Also does it make a difference if ICS or jellybean. Thanks again
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sorry to hear that you are on vista but it should do the job, my windows 8 even works fine. it doesn't matter which rooted stock rom you flash, but I would recommend flashing Jelly Bean rather than ICS just because well its newer
oh and for first custom rom, I would recommend, Carbon Rom nightlies, they are stable and smooth and have a lot of customization http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136846
Since there are similar threads in other forums around here, let's try this here. Since we now have a selection of alternative ROMs available, I do wonder which one offers the best battery life.
Stock didn't make me too unhappy in that department. Never measured it but it didn't seem too shabby. Yet as long as Sammy's stock is what it is - making an otherwise fantastic device feel slow and laggy - it's out of the question to return to it.
Running CM11 now. Makes me very happy as a whole but battery life is lacking. Getting around four hours of screen time with brightness set to the lower third of the scale. Also, I recently switched from Chrome to Firefox on all my computers including Android devices. On the 8.4 it burns through the battery like there's no tomorrow, often using more than 25 per cent. It doesn't on my other Androids.
Any experiences with Carbon, Clean or any of the de-crapwared stock ROMs?
You can just try them for yourself and see which one suits your needs.
Thank you and thread closed.
Hi all,
As can be seen from my signature, I'm a pretty big fan of CM, and it goes as far as compiling CM for all my devices that have CM13.
I just got my own P600 days ago, and unfortunately, in the process of setting it up I found out that CM on this device is incredibly frustrating. CM13 unofficial builds produce constant noticeable graphic stutters that heavily interfere with gaming; CM12.1, albeit having reached nightly status for quite some time, has the sleep-of-death problem. Both also tend to simply freeze, go blackscreen and/or simply reboot when using normally. It even happens right when I had just rebooted to desktop and opened a random app. I am a seasoned flashaholic, but I find myself unable to handle these.
With that said, I'd like to try out other ROMs, however choices are scarce, and I don't have much time for tedious setup and testing. Can anyone who has been using other ROMs confirm if any of them are stable enough as daily driver?
Thanks in advance for helping!
Sent from Google Nexus 6P @ CM13
I've found the hard way out to my CM agony... I spent countless hours and data downloading and testing out literally every ROM for P600 that I can find on the web, yet nothing satisfies: some go black screen, some go choppy, some aren't compatible with App Settings...
To end the pain once and for all, I purchased another Note 10.1, but this time I went for the slightly more expensive Qualcomm variants. End up getting a T-Mobile variant (P607T), flashed CM13 nightly for lt03lte (yes, it's compatible for both P605 and P607T out of the box) and everything simply went as smooth as it should. Even HSPA+ works, although my country has a different LTE band so LTE is unavailable.
I've already found a buyer for the Exynos one for a reasonable price so I don't lose anything either.
As Exynos 7/8 still hasn't gotten any usable AOSP development yet, I think I'll give up on Exynos as a whole... Qualcomm all the way!
MARKED SOLVED.
Sent from Google Nexus 6P @ CM13