Today the USB port on my original AT&T Tilt bit the dust. I am considering just buying an external battery charger for it and perhaps an extra battery.
I am also considering the AT&T Tilt 2.
What I don't understand is this: practically every review of the phone on AT&T's website complains of a chronic freezing problem. I figured I'd check these forums for a solution, but there are very few mentions of a freezing problem here, so I'm very confused.
How can the vast majority of the reviews complain about freezing on AT&T's site, but the good people on these forums do not? Am I missing something? Is there really a problem? Would love to buy the phone, but not if I need to reboot it all day long.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
I have had no freezing problems with my device, and the only reasons I reboot are unrelated to freezing or instability. Though, to be fair, I had the AT&T stock ROM on my Rhodium for only a few hours before I flashed a cooked ROM.
I'd guess the reason the reviews discuss freezes while XDA doesn't is because the AT&T stock ROM, which the reviewers would be using, is filled with bloatware and for me had ~75% ram in use on the first boot, and isn't very fast at all.
Meanwhile, the vast majority of the people on this forum use cooked ROMs, which are lean and fast, have every possible speed tweak applied, and are otherwise optimized for the best possible performance. If you are coming from the AT&T Tilt, you will not be disappointed at all by this device.
yea, the stock phone sucks, takes forever to come on but after you download a good rom for it its awsome, I havent had mine freeze up yet, I have had to restart it a cople times duu to a program getting jamed and not going completly away but that was kinda my fault overall I give this phone an A++
I've been using the Tilt 2 for 4 days now on the stock ROM and haven't had any lag or freezing issues. I'm pretty impressed with it so far.
Tilt2 & stock AT&T ROM for me, had it over 8 weeks now. No freezes, no lags, good data speeds. I use MemMaid to clean up memory maybe once a day, and probably soft reset about once a week. I'm real happy with performance.
I've put on a lot of usability tweaks, but I won't put on a custom ROM until my warranty expires.
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I'm not entirely new to Android, I just haven't had a dedicated android phone for more than 3 weeks.
Coming from WM6.5.x on a Touch Pro, even the best ROMs I've installed seem to deteriorate and act weird after a certain amount of time (2 weeks or so).
Has anyone experienced the same behavior with customs ROMs on Android? I'm wondering what the differences are between SIM unlocking a WM device and rooting an android device.
With an expensive device like the EVO, I'm wondering if it's worth rooting it.
Sorry I couldn't think of a better word than "decay" in the subject.
ROM "performance" fragments over time as you write data to the NAND. While not the same, the idea is synonymous with data fragmentation on a HDD. The point is that over time, performance will slow down some, and a "fresh load" of an OS, be it Android, Windows Mobile, Linux or Windows, will always perform better than a dated install.
That said, I've never experienced degradation other than some performance slow down--never had functionality/features break or otherwise behave erratically.
Case in point, my phone batteries now decharge quicker because my screen doesn't turn off after I get an email or something like that. This is the best it's been. Some other ROMs in the past have had weirder effects on the TP, but I can't seem to recollect exactly what they were. sorry. I think mainly they've been related to Manilla.
I can second the usage of WM 6.5 (custom rom) getting worse over time. Ive got one now Im limping along until the 4th. I use SBP Clone on mine s I can reload my ROM when it gets too bad and then use PIMBackup to restore my calls/txt/emails ECT but it still gets aggravating having to do that.
Im hoping for more and something better with Android.
Running damagecontroll's rom on my sprint hero, no problems at all, no instabilities or anything.
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Running damagecontroll's rom on my sprint hero, no problems at all, no instabilities or anything.
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That's good to hear, thanks for the feedback.
ya no problem here with different roms..you probably wont see a million different roms like you see on windows mobile
I plan to return my nitro tomorrow before my 14 days is up. It's rooted with superoneclick. Should I bother trying to unroot? Would hate to brick it without a recovery rom available.
It won't brick you phone, I've done it several times already.
In my personal experience the clerks don't bother check the condition of the software on the phone, they turn it on (or not) and that's it.
And besides, if it's bricked, well, there is always a wall charger to blame
P.S.
What are you getting instead?
My mind isn't completely made up yet. I want to love the nitro but the occasional lag, poor scrolling, and battery life is what's ruining it for me. RAM manager has made a difference in app switching. I've been watching you guys closely hoping for proof of an unlocked bootloader as I'm sure another rom or hardware accelerated browsing in ics will make all the difference.
If i ditch it, ill probably just go back to my iPhone 4 for a couple months and see if the at&t version of the nexus gets LTE. I love this display, but don't know if I want to commit to the phone for 2 years. Will let you know what I decide.
Thank [email protected] Unroot worked without any problems. I decided to return it and wait and see what you all can find in the next few weeks. I played with the skyrocket and nitro side by side in the store.. what a difference. The skyrocket is buttery smooth. I would jump on it in a heart beat if there weren't those huge pixels staring me in the face . The HTC Vivid actually felt like a decent compromise if compromises had to be made. Nice qHD display and pretty smooth. I still believe the Nitro has the potential to be the top dog, but not in it's current state.
Keep up the good work. I'd love to see new software on the fantastic hardware.
The display on this is fantastic. I can feel your pain as it's not as smooth as the Skyrocket. I'm not a huge fan of the super amoled - especially compared to this. I have switched to the Zeam launcher and it has made a pretty nice difference. I'm hoping there will be an interim release by LG/AT&T to speed things up and fix some of the other minor bugs.
And most importantly hoping the dev successes continue and we can get some nice custom ROMs going (especially ICS).
I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
Don't you get 30 days to return?
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I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
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what about bloatware? how much of it there? Maybe that's the reason it's smoother?
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Don't you get 30 days to return?
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Yes, you have 30 days. Every Nitro owner who bought from Att should be able to return it since it came out this month.
[email protected],
I'd actually say there is at least as much, if not more bloatware. I really can't explain why, but navigating through menus and scrolling through apps just feels smoother. Now, I had never done a factory reset and reformatted my SD card until my fiasco, so it's possible that helped and that the Nitro rom might feel smoother when I get back to it.
Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Are you kidding me, this phone is Soooo Much smoother after doing a hard reset, even with bloatware still on it. Even now the Atrix feel so much more sluggish compared to this phone. I dont understand wat people are complaining about this phone. Yes, there's many kinks on this phone that LG never took care of, but that's why we have XDA and the great minds in it, that is to improve the phones we have.
You know wat, Go ahead, go and change your phones to the GS II. And when the Nitro HD gets a significant improvement in the sense of ROMs or any other upgrades, all of you who left this phone behind can weep and regret your decisions
Compare an iPhone or skyrocket. There's a huge difference in smoothness vs the nitro.. especially with the web browser (even opera). Even rooted with ram manager and hard reset, it just doesn't compare. Saying there isn't a difference is like my friend's saying they don't see the big pixels in the s ii. Say what you want about iphones, but i think they have spoiled me in terms of user interaction.
All that said, I agree the phone has tremendous potential and will most likely outshine the s ii when all is said and done.. My guess is that some of the lag involves software rendering of the 1280x720. Scroll around and watch the nitro's CPU spike. Custom roms or ICS much resolve some of this which is why I'm going to wait it out a few more weeks or months too see what unfolds before committing to the device long term.
I'm having a lot of data issues with my HTC One S on T-Mobile US, so I'm thinking about getting an SIII. I can either do a warranty exchange on my One S but the SIII looks like it can outperform the One S so here I am.
I wanted to know if there have been any issues with the SIII? From the various threads I've seen, there doesn't appear to be any but I just wanted to ask current users. I'd like some input on:
stock ROM performance (although I will root eventually)
data connectivity (data network and wifi)
camera performance
battery performance
GPS performance
how your root experience was (easy, difficult, issues laden?)
any gotchas?
Also, what's the difference between the 2 development threads? Why is one called Original and the other is not?
Many thanks
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stock ROM performance (although I will root eventually)
A. Amazing! The new touchwiz is smooth and very stable, it's partially the reason why I always go back to stock based roms.
data connectivity (data network and wifi)
A. It depends on where you live but I haven't had any issues with data at all, it's reasonably faster than it was on my Galaxy S2 so no complaints there!
camera performance
A. I think the camera is one of the best on the market, photo's are very sharp and clear from my experience.
battery performance
A. The battery on this device is good, I can make it through a day easily with moderate use.
GPS performance
A. I don't use GPS very much so I can't give you a good answer to that one but I haven't heard any complaints about it.
how your root experience was (easy, difficult, issues laden?)
A. My root experience was great, if you had a Galaxy S2 and rooted it, it's basically the same thing. If not it's still very basic if you follow the instructions correctly.
any gotchas?
A. Not sure what this means, if your talking about issues or something like that then I have one:
- The device can get warm from time to time when using data for long periods of time, other then that I haven't had any issues with phone.
I'd definitely recommend this to anyone looking to get a new phone!
Only problem I have is it warms up from heavy data use from time to time. Stock ROM was wonderful but I finally flashed cm10 last night to see how it is. I couldn't believe it but the phone became even faster Haha I highly recommend this phone
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Stock ROM: Nearly perfect. It's fluid. It's fast, it's useful. And you can switch most things on or off without rooting. You can get a newly Aosp experience without root.
Data: As good as any other recent phone. Data completely relies on where you live. The s3 will not give you any problems.
Battery: Good or very good. The phone lasts about 20 hours with moderate usage. It can easily hit 2 days with light usage. Jelly bean currently has no bugs but it does drain the battery slightly more than ics. Expect 17 hours average on jelly bean.
Gps: Best in class. Locks instantly, consistently within 20 seconds cold boot.
Rooting: Rooting is easy and takes 3 minutes.
CAMERA: Same as the iPhone 4s but i do believe the software is better. Pictures are some of the best for a smartphone. Only a few phones best it but it is not by much.
Other: Phone is ready for wireless charging of you want to solder 2 wires on it. Also, i have heard reports that the screen cracks on some drops so be warned and careful.
Overall. Super fast, super reliable, has bugless jelly bean,
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I'm having a lot of data issues with my HTC One S on T-Mobile US, so I'm thinking about getting an SIII. I can either do a warranty exchange on my One S but the SIII looks like it can outperform the One S so here I am.
I wanted to know if there have been any issues with the SIII? From the various threads I've seen, there doesn't appear to be any but I just wanted to ask current users. I'd like some input on:
stock ROM performance (although I will root eventually)
data connectivity (data network and wifi)
camera performance
battery performance
GPS performance
how your root experience was (easy, difficult, issues laden?)
any gotchas?
Also, what's the difference between the 2 development threads? Why is one called Original and the other is not?
Many thanks
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I have the sgs3 and I absolutely love it. Was on stock form late July till about 2 weeks ago and it seemed to perform just fine. I'm not huge on the TouchWiz interface of the past but this one wasn't so bad. Was never at a loss for power even though we didn't get the Integra (le sigh). Here in Chicago the data is always smooth but I spend some time in rural WI, so up there it could be better but that is more local then phone performance related. The Camera was outstanding. Girlfriend has the HTC One S and she was a little jealous of the camera by comparison. I had a very smooth root transition and I did it about a week after I got the phone, now I can only imagine it will be smoother for you. Flashed to the cm10 nightlies and I have had a few issues but nothing that was major. Not to mention Cyanogen himself is developing on the T999 which is awesome. Only issues that I would be aware of is that when I rooted my phone there were some issues with people losing their IMEI... but that has mostly been cleared up if you search around the forums. I think it had something to do with people rooting for the international version instead of the US Carrier version. Not sure but I didn't encounter it. Best phone I have ever had. Like it even more then my old G2 that I refused to get rid of till it finally crashed.
Please don't get it.
The only issue I have had is the dirty looks from Apple fan boys
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Stock works just perfect its stable and such however i notice that when data is turned on the phone gets a little bit hot but nothing too serious...
Battery life is okay 22hs unplugged and 3h30minutes screen on time ..
I dont see any major issues camera is really good in bright area but when it gets very dark whit no flash camera is taking pics whit lot of noise but its very responsive ..
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The only issue I have had is the dirty looks from Apple fan boys
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You should be proud.. that you have a phone that doesn't break apart in the box during shipping.
My first S III had a dent in the metal beneath the battery and the second one had a significant scratch in the speaker grill. My third one was just assembled loosely or the pieces didn't fit together well so there were gaps in the seams under the battery cover and all three of these had poorly calibrated displays because white images appeared to be slightly yellow at times so I wouldn't poke fun at Apple if I were you...
4th one's the charm though. I'm happy with this one.
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The GS3 is the best phone I have ever had. Don't have any problems. Only thing I miss is no FM radio.
Yes it leaks.
Best phone period.
Well, until the next big thing arrives
-stock ROM performance (although I will root eventually)
Rooting doesn't necessarily mean that you have to switch ROMs, but anyways, stock ROM seems to use a bit more battery than lets say CyanogenMod but other than that, I enjoy the motion controls on the stock rom. I always have better bars than my friends and everything works like a charm
- data connectivity (data network and wifi)
wifi and data both work well. one time I had a problem where data wasn't working that well but i fixed it by reverting back to stock kernel.
-camera performance
i love taking pictures with the camera. the features are pretty enjoyable too. my aunt really loves the "beauty" feature on the camera where it clears up blemishes and makes you look really nice 8D really enjoy being able to take pictures while recording video as well.
- battery performance
typical day I can get 4 hours of screen time in the full day. that is with some light gaming, lots of texting and some social networking. pretty good for a heavy user. my old phone nexus s, would always get low battery and I would have to watch my usage.
- GPS performance
before i switched carriers, I had unlimited data on mobilicity so that worked really well with the GPS. I could always locate myself and sometimes when I wasn't too sure about the area, i could pull up google maps and it would find where I am within seconds.
- how your root experience was (easy, difficult, issues laden?)
rooting the s3 was pretty simple. It just involved using Odin to flash a custom recovery and then installing superuser. it was a lot easier than my nexus s where I had to use adb and fastboot
- any gotchas?
there is the occasional lag and glitch here and there but then again after rooting you can't expect everything to run perfectly. hopefully you get the s3 and enjoy
well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
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well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
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Besides the obligatory answers "download and try a few out yourself" and "your mileage may vary," when I first rooted this phone I had very good luck (speed, battery life, etc.) with the Jedi Invasion ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013568
Besides that, I've heard that the Wicked ROM is great as well as CM10 (10.1 is stable but has a few issues that would dissuade most who are not willing to be on the cutting edge).
yea you know since i posted the thread i've been reading up on the newest roms and Wicked looks pretty damn perfect. if i do decide to root i'm gonna go with that but i'd still love to get this thing working at least for the next few months, with less issues WITHOUT rooting for now... but thanks for the response.
I've got a lovely rooted, unlocked LGOG LS-970 plugged in right next to me. But, I'm finding myself feeling a little left behind in more than one instance:
I've got the impression that swapping AOSP and stock ROMs is a finicky task with our LGOGs. It's really a chore; as far as I can tell, I have to wipe internal data coming from either camp. And I can't even switch from Vectus to any other stock ROM successfully without wiping internal data.
Is this par for the course?
Insofar as the stock playground goes, I'm only able to get up to the 1.22 Liberty Kernal; if I run any of the OC'd ones, the phone lags considerably, especially at boot, and doesn't read that it's clocking higher than 16ghz even when max is set to 17 or 18ghz. Burning hot or cool, same same.
I've doodled around a bunch trying to get the more recent Liberties to work, to no avail. I've had a bit more luck with TricksterMod than ROM Toolbox Pro, but no one else in that thread seems to be having similar issues (or has given advice I haven't tried out).
Welp! Just a general "hey? you smell that too?" inquiry.
And I think this is my first thread. Party.
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I've got a lovely rooted, unlocked LGOG LS-970 plugged in right next to me. But, I'm finding myself feeling a little left behind in more than one instance:
I've got the impression that swapping AOSP and stock ROMs is a finicky task with our LGOGs. It's really a chore; as far as I can tell, I have to wipe internal data coming from either camp. And I can't even switch from Vectus to any other stock ROM successfully without wiping internal data.
Is this par for the course?
Insofar as the stock playground goes, I'm only able to get up to the 1.22 Liberty Kernal; if I run any of the OC'd ones, the phone lags considerably, especially at boot, and doesn't read that it's clocking higher than 16ghz even when max is set to 17 or 18ghz. Burning hot or cool, same same.
I've doodled around a bunch trying to get the more recent Liberties to work, to no avail. I've had a bit more luck with TricksterMod than ROM Toolbox Pro, but no one else in that thread seems to be having similar issues (or has given advice I haven't tried out).
Welp! Just a general "hey? you smell that too?" inquiry.
And I think this is my first thread. Party.
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I'm not sure what your question is......par for the course? I wish I could say no. But, I've been rooting and ROMing phones since 2010, when I got the HD2 and could not believe the Windows 6.5 garbage that came installed. I've rooted, ROMed, and customized 7 different phones in the time and so far the only phone I had MORE trouble with was the G2x. God, that phone almost swore me off of LG for good. When the Nexus 4 came out, I decided to take another chance. But, I digress. The fact of having to wipe internal memory is not the end of the world. It does not dump your files, only your memory related to the ROM(app cache, data, etc) As far as OCing is concerned, I've found that OCing is not the end of the world either. Not too long ago, phones weren't very fast, and OCing was a viable option to get a little more speed out of the device. We have one of the fastest phones made these days, so OCing shouldn't be that big of a deal,and you won't notice distinguishable speed differences anyway(I tried with my N4; it would over clock, and seem a LITTLE faster, but that was all) As for switching between 'stock' and 'custom' ROMs, I'm afraid that is kinda par for the course. I personally believe the issue stems from most stock ROMs being 4.1.2, and most custom ROMs being 4.2.2. But, I have no real proof of that, just a suspicion. If you are rooted and unlocked, and want to try something different than stock, try one of the builds I make (JellyBeer, Beanstalk, and CM10.1/Linaro). The custom ROMs are not without their quirks, so if you need complete and total stabilty, they may not be for you. But, they are cool to use and you may like them enough to look the other way at the occasional hiccup, I do. The CM/Linaro build is a good stock-ish ROM with some added speed that has been noticed by the users of it. If you prefer a total stock feel, try Lifeless or Vectus. Both are very well made and those who use them swear by them. Be cool. PM me if you need any help with anything. Oh, and watch out for those cows!
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I'm not sure what your question is......par for the course? I wish I could say no. But, I've been rooting and ROMing phones since 2010, when I got the HD2 and could not believe the Windows 6.5 garbage that came installed. I've rooted, ROMed, and customized 7 different phones in the time and so far the only phone I had MORE trouble with was the G2x. God, that phone almost swore me off of LG for good. When the Nexus 4 came out, I decided to take another chance. But, I digress. The fact of having to wipe internal memory is not the end of the world. It does not dump your files, only your memory related to the ROM(app cache, data, etc) As far as OCing is concerned, I've found that OCing is not the end of the world either. Not too long ago, phones weren't very fast, and OCing was a viable option to get a little more speed out of the device. We have one of the fastest phones made these days, so OCing shouldn't be that big of a deal,and you won't notice distinguishable speed differences anyway(I tried with my N4; it would over clock, and seem a LITTLE faster, but that was all) As for switching between 'stock' and 'custom' ROMs, I'm afraid that is kinda par for the course. I personally believe the issue stems from most stock ROMs being 4.1.2, and most custom ROMs being 4.2.2. But, I have no real proof of that, just a suspicion. If you are rooted and unlocked, and want to try something different than stock, try one of the builds I make (JellyBeer, Beanstalk, and CM10.1/Linaro). The custom ROMs are not without their quirks, so if you need complete and total stabilty, they may not be for you. But, they are cool to use and you may like them enough to look the other way at the occasional hiccup, I do. The CM/Linaro build is a good stock-ish ROM with some added speed that has been noticed by the users of it. If you prefer a total stock feel, try Lifeless or Vectus. Both are very well made and those who use them swear by them. Be cool. PM me if you need any help with anything. Oh, and watch out for those cows!
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Yuppo. I just did some backuping, and factory-, data-, and delvik-wiped Lifelessv14 three times to flaash the latest Vectus V3.
"FAILED"
Doh! Again?!
Fair enough. Even though it's stock-to-stock, stuff happens. I have backups.
Insofar as overclocking, it's not so much that I'd like to push the phone faster (this phone, we know, is fast), but that I just couldn't figure out why, after a fair amount of trials, I wasn't able to, when, seemingly, many others could.
Basically, I want to ask, when you say wiping internal data doesn't dump your files, which files do you mean? My /sdcard gets dumped.
... Incomiiing! *mooooo*
EDIT: But, then again, I just sideloaded it and it said "FAILED," and booted. Who'da thunk?