I've got a lovely rooted, unlocked LGOG LS-970 plugged in right next to me. But, I'm finding myself feeling a little left behind in more than one instance:
I've got the impression that swapping AOSP and stock ROMs is a finicky task with our LGOGs. It's really a chore; as far as I can tell, I have to wipe internal data coming from either camp. And I can't even switch from Vectus to any other stock ROM successfully without wiping internal data.
Is this par for the course?
Insofar as the stock playground goes, I'm only able to get up to the 1.22 Liberty Kernal; if I run any of the OC'd ones, the phone lags considerably, especially at boot, and doesn't read that it's clocking higher than 16ghz even when max is set to 17 or 18ghz. Burning hot or cool, same same.
I've doodled around a bunch trying to get the more recent Liberties to work, to no avail. I've had a bit more luck with TricksterMod than ROM Toolbox Pro, but no one else in that thread seems to be having similar issues (or has given advice I haven't tried out).
Welp! Just a general "hey? you smell that too?" inquiry.
And I think this is my first thread. Party.
ihitcows said:
I've got a lovely rooted, unlocked LGOG LS-970 plugged in right next to me. But, I'm finding myself feeling a little left behind in more than one instance:
I've got the impression that swapping AOSP and stock ROMs is a finicky task with our LGOGs. It's really a chore; as far as I can tell, I have to wipe internal data coming from either camp. And I can't even switch from Vectus to any other stock ROM successfully without wiping internal data.
Is this par for the course?
Insofar as the stock playground goes, I'm only able to get up to the 1.22 Liberty Kernal; if I run any of the OC'd ones, the phone lags considerably, especially at boot, and doesn't read that it's clocking higher than 16ghz even when max is set to 17 or 18ghz. Burning hot or cool, same same.
I've doodled around a bunch trying to get the more recent Liberties to work, to no avail. I've had a bit more luck with TricksterMod than ROM Toolbox Pro, but no one else in that thread seems to be having similar issues (or has given advice I haven't tried out).
Welp! Just a general "hey? you smell that too?" inquiry.
And I think this is my first thread. Party.
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I'm not sure what your question is......par for the course? I wish I could say no. But, I've been rooting and ROMing phones since 2010, when I got the HD2 and could not believe the Windows 6.5 garbage that came installed. I've rooted, ROMed, and customized 7 different phones in the time and so far the only phone I had MORE trouble with was the G2x. God, that phone almost swore me off of LG for good. When the Nexus 4 came out, I decided to take another chance. But, I digress. The fact of having to wipe internal memory is not the end of the world. It does not dump your files, only your memory related to the ROM(app cache, data, etc) As far as OCing is concerned, I've found that OCing is not the end of the world either. Not too long ago, phones weren't very fast, and OCing was a viable option to get a little more speed out of the device. We have one of the fastest phones made these days, so OCing shouldn't be that big of a deal,and you won't notice distinguishable speed differences anyway(I tried with my N4; it would over clock, and seem a LITTLE faster, but that was all) As for switching between 'stock' and 'custom' ROMs, I'm afraid that is kinda par for the course. I personally believe the issue stems from most stock ROMs being 4.1.2, and most custom ROMs being 4.2.2. But, I have no real proof of that, just a suspicion. If you are rooted and unlocked, and want to try something different than stock, try one of the builds I make (JellyBeer, Beanstalk, and CM10.1/Linaro). The custom ROMs are not without their quirks, so if you need complete and total stabilty, they may not be for you. But, they are cool to use and you may like them enough to look the other way at the occasional hiccup, I do. The CM/Linaro build is a good stock-ish ROM with some added speed that has been noticed by the users of it. If you prefer a total stock feel, try Lifeless or Vectus. Both are very well made and those who use them swear by them. Be cool. PM me if you need any help with anything. Oh, and watch out for those cows!
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I'm not sure what your question is......par for the course? I wish I could say no. But, I've been rooting and ROMing phones since 2010, when I got the HD2 and could not believe the Windows 6.5 garbage that came installed. I've rooted, ROMed, and customized 7 different phones in the time and so far the only phone I had MORE trouble with was the G2x. God, that phone almost swore me off of LG for good. When the Nexus 4 came out, I decided to take another chance. But, I digress. The fact of having to wipe internal memory is not the end of the world. It does not dump your files, only your memory related to the ROM(app cache, data, etc) As far as OCing is concerned, I've found that OCing is not the end of the world either. Not too long ago, phones weren't very fast, and OCing was a viable option to get a little more speed out of the device. We have one of the fastest phones made these days, so OCing shouldn't be that big of a deal,and you won't notice distinguishable speed differences anyway(I tried with my N4; it would over clock, and seem a LITTLE faster, but that was all) As for switching between 'stock' and 'custom' ROMs, I'm afraid that is kinda par for the course. I personally believe the issue stems from most stock ROMs being 4.1.2, and most custom ROMs being 4.2.2. But, I have no real proof of that, just a suspicion. If you are rooted and unlocked, and want to try something different than stock, try one of the builds I make (JellyBeer, Beanstalk, and CM10.1/Linaro). The custom ROMs are not without their quirks, so if you need complete and total stabilty, they may not be for you. But, they are cool to use and you may like them enough to look the other way at the occasional hiccup, I do. The CM/Linaro build is a good stock-ish ROM with some added speed that has been noticed by the users of it. If you prefer a total stock feel, try Lifeless or Vectus. Both are very well made and those who use them swear by them. Be cool. PM me if you need any help with anything. Oh, and watch out for those cows!
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Yuppo. I just did some backuping, and factory-, data-, and delvik-wiped Lifelessv14 three times to flaash the latest Vectus V3.
"FAILED"
Doh! Again?!
Fair enough. Even though it's stock-to-stock, stuff happens. I have backups.
Insofar as overclocking, it's not so much that I'd like to push the phone faster (this phone, we know, is fast), but that I just couldn't figure out why, after a fair amount of trials, I wasn't able to, when, seemingly, many others could.
Basically, I want to ask, when you say wiping internal data doesn't dump your files, which files do you mean? My /sdcard gets dumped.
... Incomiiing! *mooooo*
EDIT: But, then again, I just sideloaded it and it said "FAILED," and booted. Who'da thunk?
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I'm not entirely new to Android, I just haven't had a dedicated android phone for more than 3 weeks.
Coming from WM6.5.x on a Touch Pro, even the best ROMs I've installed seem to deteriorate and act weird after a certain amount of time (2 weeks or so).
Has anyone experienced the same behavior with customs ROMs on Android? I'm wondering what the differences are between SIM unlocking a WM device and rooting an android device.
With an expensive device like the EVO, I'm wondering if it's worth rooting it.
Sorry I couldn't think of a better word than "decay" in the subject.
ROM "performance" fragments over time as you write data to the NAND. While not the same, the idea is synonymous with data fragmentation on a HDD. The point is that over time, performance will slow down some, and a "fresh load" of an OS, be it Android, Windows Mobile, Linux or Windows, will always perform better than a dated install.
That said, I've never experienced degradation other than some performance slow down--never had functionality/features break or otherwise behave erratically.
Case in point, my phone batteries now decharge quicker because my screen doesn't turn off after I get an email or something like that. This is the best it's been. Some other ROMs in the past have had weirder effects on the TP, but I can't seem to recollect exactly what they were. sorry. I think mainly they've been related to Manilla.
I can second the usage of WM 6.5 (custom rom) getting worse over time. Ive got one now Im limping along until the 4th. I use SBP Clone on mine s I can reload my ROM when it gets too bad and then use PIMBackup to restore my calls/txt/emails ECT but it still gets aggravating having to do that.
Im hoping for more and something better with Android.
Running damagecontroll's rom on my sprint hero, no problems at all, no instabilities or anything.
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Running damagecontroll's rom on my sprint hero, no problems at all, no instabilities or anything.
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That's good to hear, thanks for the feedback.
ya no problem here with different roms..you probably wont see a million different roms like you see on windows mobile
I plan to return my nitro tomorrow before my 14 days is up. It's rooted with superoneclick. Should I bother trying to unroot? Would hate to brick it without a recovery rom available.
It won't brick you phone, I've done it several times already.
In my personal experience the clerks don't bother check the condition of the software on the phone, they turn it on (or not) and that's it.
And besides, if it's bricked, well, there is always a wall charger to blame
P.S.
What are you getting instead?
My mind isn't completely made up yet. I want to love the nitro but the occasional lag, poor scrolling, and battery life is what's ruining it for me. RAM manager has made a difference in app switching. I've been watching you guys closely hoping for proof of an unlocked bootloader as I'm sure another rom or hardware accelerated browsing in ics will make all the difference.
If i ditch it, ill probably just go back to my iPhone 4 for a couple months and see if the at&t version of the nexus gets LTE. I love this display, but don't know if I want to commit to the phone for 2 years. Will let you know what I decide.
Thank [email protected] Unroot worked without any problems. I decided to return it and wait and see what you all can find in the next few weeks. I played with the skyrocket and nitro side by side in the store.. what a difference. The skyrocket is buttery smooth. I would jump on it in a heart beat if there weren't those huge pixels staring me in the face . The HTC Vivid actually felt like a decent compromise if compromises had to be made. Nice qHD display and pretty smooth. I still believe the Nitro has the potential to be the top dog, but not in it's current state.
Keep up the good work. I'd love to see new software on the fantastic hardware.
The display on this is fantastic. I can feel your pain as it's not as smooth as the Skyrocket. I'm not a huge fan of the super amoled - especially compared to this. I have switched to the Zeam launcher and it has made a pretty nice difference. I'm hoping there will be an interim release by LG/AT&T to speed things up and fix some of the other minor bugs.
And most importantly hoping the dev successes continue and we can get some nice custom ROMs going (especially ICS).
I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
Don't you get 30 days to return?
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I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
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what about bloatware? how much of it there? Maybe that's the reason it's smoother?
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Don't you get 30 days to return?
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Yes, you have 30 days. Every Nitro owner who bought from Att should be able to return it since it came out this month.
[email protected],
I'd actually say there is at least as much, if not more bloatware. I really can't explain why, but navigating through menus and scrolling through apps just feels smoother. Now, I had never done a factory reset and reformatted my SD card until my fiasco, so it's possible that helped and that the Nitro rom might feel smoother when I get back to it.
Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Are you kidding me, this phone is Soooo Much smoother after doing a hard reset, even with bloatware still on it. Even now the Atrix feel so much more sluggish compared to this phone. I dont understand wat people are complaining about this phone. Yes, there's many kinks on this phone that LG never took care of, but that's why we have XDA and the great minds in it, that is to improve the phones we have.
You know wat, Go ahead, go and change your phones to the GS II. And when the Nitro HD gets a significant improvement in the sense of ROMs or any other upgrades, all of you who left this phone behind can weep and regret your decisions
Compare an iPhone or skyrocket. There's a huge difference in smoothness vs the nitro.. especially with the web browser (even opera). Even rooted with ram manager and hard reset, it just doesn't compare. Saying there isn't a difference is like my friend's saying they don't see the big pixels in the s ii. Say what you want about iphones, but i think they have spoiled me in terms of user interaction.
All that said, I agree the phone has tremendous potential and will most likely outshine the s ii when all is said and done.. My guess is that some of the lag involves software rendering of the 1280x720. Scroll around and watch the nitro's CPU spike. Custom roms or ICS much resolve some of this which is why I'm going to wait it out a few more weeks or months too see what unfolds before committing to the device long term.
well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
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well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
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Besides the obligatory answers "download and try a few out yourself" and "your mileage may vary," when I first rooted this phone I had very good luck (speed, battery life, etc.) with the Jedi Invasion ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013568
Besides that, I've heard that the Wicked ROM is great as well as CM10 (10.1 is stable but has a few issues that would dissuade most who are not willing to be on the cutting edge).
yea you know since i posted the thread i've been reading up on the newest roms and Wicked looks pretty damn perfect. if i do decide to root i'm gonna go with that but i'd still love to get this thing working at least for the next few months, with less issues WITHOUT rooting for now... but thanks for the response.
Been a member here for many years, been into android for many years, but ive never had a phone thats as good as this.
i mean its fast, battery is amazing, i can do anything with it.
why should i go about rooting/rom it?
i can see the benefits from rooting, titanium back up, things like that.
but what do the roms really improve about the phone thats not already "perfect"
i may be only a week in with the note 2, but its flawless so far, i was so excited to root/rom it before i got it as i did with every other android i got, but once i experienced this , i really sat back and said why?
i think ill do the root for titanium, but thats it, unless someone can tell me what the huge benefit is to adding a custom rom .
lol no flames please, just being honest.
It's your call in the end.
Personally, I was hesitant to give it a custom ROM, considering I would lose S-Pen features. I even had a nandroid backup ready to put me back to TW if I remotely didn't like the custom ROM, and this was heavily researching and considering the ROM I'd like to use. What won me over was how much faster and smoother the phone became. Some may argue that that's relative as some can't tell the difference, but I did. I then found out I was able to overclock and undervolt, meaning faster/smoother phone and longer battery life. Another thing that did win me over was the 900mA charging ability via USB. With TW, I guess I had too much background processes running that plugging it in to USB just slowed down the drain. I'm now preparing to see if the 900mA charging ability holds up with the wireless charging mod.
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
Icharius said:
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
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Getting my Nexus 5X tomorrow but currently use a Nexus 5. With any Nexus you want to start off with setting up the Android SDK and all the Nexus drivers on your computer so if something does go south, you are ready to fix it with the factory images. The first thing I am going to do with mine is put Android N on it since I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Then root and most likely be happy with that for a while. Since Android N will probably be officially released soon, I'm sure that's when a lot of stuff will start happening around here. Hopefully Xposed will get updated to work with it. If so, that will be my setup. Stock, rooted and Xposed. That's basically what I have been running on my Nexus 5 for a while now. But if you want to try out custom ROMs, there are those too.
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Getting my Nexus 5X tomorrow but currently use a Nexus 5. With any Nexus you want to start off with setting up the Android SDK and all the Nexus drivers on your computer so if something does go south, you are ready to fix it with the factory images. The first thing I am going to do with mine is put Android N on it since I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Then root and most likely be happy with that for a while. Since Android N will probably be officially released soon, I'm sure that's when a lot of stuff will start happening around here. Hopefully Xposed will get updated to work with it. If so, that will be my setup. Stock, rooted and Xposed. That's basically what I have been running on my Nexus 5 for a while now. But if you want to try out custom ROMs, there are those too.
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Thanks for your reply. good advice to save the original rom image! I will probably root too, because I usually OC my phones hopefully that won't be so much a hassle.
If I were you, I wouldn't OC at all. Snapdragon 800 series likes to overheat and throttle itself, making it slower than usual.
Icharius said:
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
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I have the N5X for several months.
I previously had the N4, N5, and OnePlus One (still have it, wife uses it).
I used stock, I used to flash ROMs at least twice a week minimum (same on the other devices). Various ROMs, to test their performance, their tweaks, their perks, their battery life... you name it.
However, flashing ROMs and trying out various mods feels very much like living on the road with your backpack on, rather than staying at home and having a steady job. Because while flashing ROMs, you don't always re-install all the things you had (Even if you backup with Titanium Backup, as some things don't survive data restore very well). Last week I made the decision to go stock and stay stock (well, not really, I went stock Android N Preview 5, which will receive OTA to full Nugget in about a month).
I have to tell you... I don't quite feel any difference other than losing a feature or two. Speed is still great; snappiness is snappy, no bugs and no issues. It feels great even though its encypted (by default), while all this time I was certain being un-unecrypted made the device any snappier; that was just a placebo I guess.
So yeah, you can go ahead and flash a custom ROM (or many of them!), but don't do it for improved performance. Stock performance is truly awesome, and while some ROMs make it better, for sure - it's not THAT better, not in any noticeable way. Do it for features, do it for fun, do it for curiosity, DO IT! But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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I have the N5X for several months.
I previously had the N4, N5, and OnePlus One (still have it, wife uses it).
I used stock, I used to flash ROMs at least twice a week minimum (same on the other devices). Various ROMs, to test their performance, their tweaks, their perks, their battery life... you name it.
However, flashing ROMs and trying out various mods feels very much like living on the road with your backpack on, rather than staying at home and having a steady job. Because while flashing ROMs, you don't always re-install all the things you had (Even if you backup with Titanium Backup, as some things don't survive data restore very well). Last week I made the decision to go stock and stay stock (well, not really, I went stock Android N Preview 5, which will receive OTA to full Nugget in about a month).
I have to tell you... I don't quite feel any difference other than losing a feature or two. Speed is still great; snappiness is snappy, no bugs and no issues. It feels great even though its encypted (by default), while all this time I was certain being un-unecrypted made the device any snappier; that was just a placebo I guess.
So yeah, you can go ahead and flash a custom ROM (or many of them!), but don't do it for improved performance. Stock performance is truly awesome, and while some ROMs make it better, for sure - it's not THAT better, not in any noticeable way. Do it for features, do it for fun, do it for curiosity, DO IT! But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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Agree. I used to root and ROM the crap out of phones but with the 5X I've stayed stock. Yeah, I see more ads now and miss Viper4Android but I spend no time F-ing with the phone and all the time just using it. No gyrations to go though to install monthly security updates or trying to get banking apps to work with root (like Android pay). Try it stock for a while.
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If I were you, I wouldn't OC at all. Snapdragon 800 series likes to overheat and throttle itself, making it slower than usual.
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I was reading that thermal problem post, it does present an issue to me because when I ride a bike I usually have the phone on the handle in a rubber case exposed to the sun and the heat that can easily reach over 35°. Thanks for the heads up.
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But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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I hear you, I have prolonged the life of my smartphones more than it should, by tweaking and using customs roms. I have had only 2 other SP in the spam of 6 years and had never had to be subject to a phone/data plan. I just ride the wifis signal or pay per use the 3g signal. Even-thought this LG is not a big inversion in itself, I hope I can squeeze several years of it and the old practice of using custom roms, seems kind of pointless or not worth the trouble considering as you say the stock is as good.
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Agree. . Try it stock for a while.
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Oh I will! there's so much I can do with it as it is, it seems.