well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
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well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
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Besides the obligatory answers "download and try a few out yourself" and "your mileage may vary," when I first rooted this phone I had very good luck (speed, battery life, etc.) with the Jedi Invasion ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013568
Besides that, I've heard that the Wicked ROM is great as well as CM10 (10.1 is stable but has a few issues that would dissuade most who are not willing to be on the cutting edge).
yea you know since i posted the thread i've been reading up on the newest roms and Wicked looks pretty damn perfect. if i do decide to root i'm gonna go with that but i'd still love to get this thing working at least for the next few months, with less issues WITHOUT rooting for now... but thanks for the response.
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getting mt3gs in two weeks
but i doubt i will root it
has anyone seen and IMPROVEMENT before with rooting?
not as in features and whatnot but as in speed, stability, battery life?
be honest here
i had a g1 and i rooted it and every rom that was made [FAST] or [STABLE]
was really just an easier way to say [ALMOST WORKS AS GOOD AS STOCK, BUT NOT REALLY, JUST ALMOST]
i have a feeling if i root my slide that i will just be on an epic quest to find a rom that actually works meaning functions properly
i want to be able to base the rom i use on features and not functionality...
has anyone noticed any improvements? be honest here
im a die hard android lover and have done every hack and run every rom there is
but i feel like you get so used to how they work that your idea of blazing fast
is in reality just barely keeping up with a stock setup
i have yet to find a rom that will still be blazing fast a week after use
they all seem to crash and burn miserably
has anyone else noticed this?
i just really want to know if it is an improvement to root my mt3gs or just kind of a "thing to do"
and yes this is my first post but i never felt like me taking up space would help anyone
i learned everything i know from here but i am no dev by any means
i just felt like this is something that needed to be said
ParkerOviedo said:
getting mt3gs in two weeks
but i doubt i will root it
has anyone seen and IMPROVEMENT before with rooting?
not as in features and whatnot but as in speed, stability, battery life?
be honest here
i had a g1 and i rooted it and every rom that was made [FAST] or [STABLE]
was really just an easier way to say [ALMOST WORKS AS GOOD AS STOCK, BUT NOT REALLY, JUST ALMOST]
i have a feeling if i root my slide that i will just be on an epic quest to find a rom that actually works meaning functions properly
i want to be able to base the rom i use on features and not functionality...
has anyone noticed any improvements? be honest here
im a die hard android lover and have done every hack and run every rom there is
but i feel like you get so used to how they work that your idea of blazing fast
is in reality just barely keeping up with a stock setup
i have yet to find a rom that will still be blazing fast a week after use
they all seem to crash and burn miserably
has anyone else noticed this?
i just really want to know if it is an improvement to root my mt3gs or just kind of a "thing to do"
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I came from a G1 also and I can agree with what you say....Kinda. I was able to find a few ROM's for my G1 that were very stable and much faster than my stock ROM. I used several for weeks and didnt have any problems with them slowing down' but there were some that didnt work as well also.
You will definitly see speed improvements in the future for the MTS but right now it is so new that the ROMS coming are doing smaller tweaks such as removing all the bloatware and alot of the sense UI stuff.
After you get your MTS you will want to root it when you see all the crap bloatware and stuff that t-mobile and Htc put on it. Thats what got me to do it.
I forgot to tell you: I havent noticed a speed change since I rooted but those changes will come. A overclocking kernel will be made so it can be overclocked and that will speed it up. I will say it is pretty fast right now ( more than I thought it would be) and coming from a G1 it is a big improvement.
Rooted myself but still on the stock ROM. The phone has not slowed down any since I have had it or since I have Rooted. I happen to like the Sense UI so I am waiting for a 2.2 With a Custom Sense/speed improvements.
That is exactly how I felt about the G1. And the Slide is so fast that I was hesitant to root and jump into someones ROM that is supposedly stable and fast but in reality is not. Luckily we can root and stay on the Tmobile ROM which is what I did.. now I have some of my convenient root apps including wifi tether and hopefully soon can delete some bloatware and ill be happy as can be with the stock rom.. no apps2sd no non sense crap.. I like the phone how it is.. That being said my bluetooth has been acting up and I did not notice this until after rooting..
I've got a lovely rooted, unlocked LGOG LS-970 plugged in right next to me. But, I'm finding myself feeling a little left behind in more than one instance:
I've got the impression that swapping AOSP and stock ROMs is a finicky task with our LGOGs. It's really a chore; as far as I can tell, I have to wipe internal data coming from either camp. And I can't even switch from Vectus to any other stock ROM successfully without wiping internal data.
Is this par for the course?
Insofar as the stock playground goes, I'm only able to get up to the 1.22 Liberty Kernal; if I run any of the OC'd ones, the phone lags considerably, especially at boot, and doesn't read that it's clocking higher than 16ghz even when max is set to 17 or 18ghz. Burning hot or cool, same same.
I've doodled around a bunch trying to get the more recent Liberties to work, to no avail. I've had a bit more luck with TricksterMod than ROM Toolbox Pro, but no one else in that thread seems to be having similar issues (or has given advice I haven't tried out).
Welp! Just a general "hey? you smell that too?" inquiry.
And I think this is my first thread. Party.
ihitcows said:
I've got a lovely rooted, unlocked LGOG LS-970 plugged in right next to me. But, I'm finding myself feeling a little left behind in more than one instance:
I've got the impression that swapping AOSP and stock ROMs is a finicky task with our LGOGs. It's really a chore; as far as I can tell, I have to wipe internal data coming from either camp. And I can't even switch from Vectus to any other stock ROM successfully without wiping internal data.
Is this par for the course?
Insofar as the stock playground goes, I'm only able to get up to the 1.22 Liberty Kernal; if I run any of the OC'd ones, the phone lags considerably, especially at boot, and doesn't read that it's clocking higher than 16ghz even when max is set to 17 or 18ghz. Burning hot or cool, same same.
I've doodled around a bunch trying to get the more recent Liberties to work, to no avail. I've had a bit more luck with TricksterMod than ROM Toolbox Pro, but no one else in that thread seems to be having similar issues (or has given advice I haven't tried out).
Welp! Just a general "hey? you smell that too?" inquiry.
And I think this is my first thread. Party.
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I'm not sure what your question is......par for the course? I wish I could say no. But, I've been rooting and ROMing phones since 2010, when I got the HD2 and could not believe the Windows 6.5 garbage that came installed. I've rooted, ROMed, and customized 7 different phones in the time and so far the only phone I had MORE trouble with was the G2x. God, that phone almost swore me off of LG for good. When the Nexus 4 came out, I decided to take another chance. But, I digress. The fact of having to wipe internal memory is not the end of the world. It does not dump your files, only your memory related to the ROM(app cache, data, etc) As far as OCing is concerned, I've found that OCing is not the end of the world either. Not too long ago, phones weren't very fast, and OCing was a viable option to get a little more speed out of the device. We have one of the fastest phones made these days, so OCing shouldn't be that big of a deal,and you won't notice distinguishable speed differences anyway(I tried with my N4; it would over clock, and seem a LITTLE faster, but that was all) As for switching between 'stock' and 'custom' ROMs, I'm afraid that is kinda par for the course. I personally believe the issue stems from most stock ROMs being 4.1.2, and most custom ROMs being 4.2.2. But, I have no real proof of that, just a suspicion. If you are rooted and unlocked, and want to try something different than stock, try one of the builds I make (JellyBeer, Beanstalk, and CM10.1/Linaro). The custom ROMs are not without their quirks, so if you need complete and total stabilty, they may not be for you. But, they are cool to use and you may like them enough to look the other way at the occasional hiccup, I do. The CM/Linaro build is a good stock-ish ROM with some added speed that has been noticed by the users of it. If you prefer a total stock feel, try Lifeless or Vectus. Both are very well made and those who use them swear by them. Be cool. PM me if you need any help with anything. Oh, and watch out for those cows!
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I'm not sure what your question is......par for the course? I wish I could say no. But, I've been rooting and ROMing phones since 2010, when I got the HD2 and could not believe the Windows 6.5 garbage that came installed. I've rooted, ROMed, and customized 7 different phones in the time and so far the only phone I had MORE trouble with was the G2x. God, that phone almost swore me off of LG for good. When the Nexus 4 came out, I decided to take another chance. But, I digress. The fact of having to wipe internal memory is not the end of the world. It does not dump your files, only your memory related to the ROM(app cache, data, etc) As far as OCing is concerned, I've found that OCing is not the end of the world either. Not too long ago, phones weren't very fast, and OCing was a viable option to get a little more speed out of the device. We have one of the fastest phones made these days, so OCing shouldn't be that big of a deal,and you won't notice distinguishable speed differences anyway(I tried with my N4; it would over clock, and seem a LITTLE faster, but that was all) As for switching between 'stock' and 'custom' ROMs, I'm afraid that is kinda par for the course. I personally believe the issue stems from most stock ROMs being 4.1.2, and most custom ROMs being 4.2.2. But, I have no real proof of that, just a suspicion. If you are rooted and unlocked, and want to try something different than stock, try one of the builds I make (JellyBeer, Beanstalk, and CM10.1/Linaro). The custom ROMs are not without their quirks, so if you need complete and total stabilty, they may not be for you. But, they are cool to use and you may like them enough to look the other way at the occasional hiccup, I do. The CM/Linaro build is a good stock-ish ROM with some added speed that has been noticed by the users of it. If you prefer a total stock feel, try Lifeless or Vectus. Both are very well made and those who use them swear by them. Be cool. PM me if you need any help with anything. Oh, and watch out for those cows!
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Yuppo. I just did some backuping, and factory-, data-, and delvik-wiped Lifelessv14 three times to flaash the latest Vectus V3.
"FAILED"
Doh! Again?!
Fair enough. Even though it's stock-to-stock, stuff happens. I have backups.
Insofar as overclocking, it's not so much that I'd like to push the phone faster (this phone, we know, is fast), but that I just couldn't figure out why, after a fair amount of trials, I wasn't able to, when, seemingly, many others could.
Basically, I want to ask, when you say wiping internal data doesn't dump your files, which files do you mean? My /sdcard gets dumped.
... Incomiiing! *mooooo*
EDIT: But, then again, I just sideloaded it and it said "FAILED," and booted. Who'da thunk?
So I've flashed quite a few ROMs over the last 2 years and I seem to always run into this problem, no matter which ROM it is. After a few weeks, some sooner than others, the ROM is either slightly sluggish or very sluggish.
Does this happen to anyone else? I just always thought it was my device since people are always commenting on how buttery smooth it is for them.
I have always followed the devs flashing instructions and I always do a full wipe.
My current rom right now is slowly getting sluggish after 1 day of use... And I'm a very light user with very few apps. Nothing crazy just the social network and texting. I barely even use the browser.
Please post with any comments and suggestions. I would like to hear how your device runs.
koudies said:
So I've flashed quite a few ROMs over the last 2 years and I seem to always run into this problem, no matter which ROM it is. After a few weeks, some sooner than others, the ROM is either slightly sluggish or very sluggish.
Does this happen to anyone else? I just always thought it was my device since people are always commenting on how buttery smooth it is for them.
I have always followed the devs flashing instructions and I always do a full wipe.
My current rom right now is slowly getting sluggish after 1 day of use... And I'm a very light user with very few apps. Nothing crazy just the social network and texting. I barely even use the browser.
Please post with any comments and suggestions. I would like to hear how your device runs.
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i've flashed quite a few roms, seems the kk roms always slow down on me, lately ive been using a jb rom by rushing and its actually gotten faster! i dont use any cleaners, seems like they just cause problems. cm security seems to keep everything safe.
Thanks for that. I flashed a few JB roms before too and I experienced the same thing. Maybe it is just my device. I'm on KK right now and will probably just stick to it for now. Thanks again.
I keep pondering whether to install CM11 and the dev work going on looks like its working well. I'm frankly sick of lag and the lack of smooth scrolling. I'm not rooted so I've not tried debloating it tbh.
However if I take the jump, is it easy enough to regress and reinstall kitkat/lollipop (when its ready)? I know it'll trip the knox counter but will reinstalling kitkat revert it back to OTA's?
I've been disappointed with Samsungs support of their top flight tablet to be honest. I keep being told bull about a fix is coming to address the lag and lack of smooth running but its not landed and I've now had 2 devices since July and they are as bad as each other.
thanks
Have you tried just using a different launcher. Like Nova.
Use nova and greenify. Greenify can hibernate apps so it can stop lag and save battery, it even works without root!
You should be able to revert back to stock without problems. Your flash counter will be incremented, but that's ok.
thanks will try greenify...is there a 'safe' list of apps to greenify ?
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thanks will try greenify...is there a 'safe' list of apps to greenify ?
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Pretty much every app listed in Greenify is safe to hibernate (unless you start checking a whole lotta checkboxes in the setings; in that case, you are expected to know what you're doing)
To be honest: I tried debloating, Greenifying, etc. all before, but even though they helped a lot, they did not get rid of ALL lag.
I can honestly say that I have been using CM11 for over a month and a half now and I still am very happy with the performance.
Batttery life is so-so, but ten again: I have forgotten what it was like on TW Plus, greenify recovers some of that battery anyway.
You should note that the CM11 development has somewhat died for the t700, which I personally think is really sad considering the age of this Samsung flagship tablet.
But the Rom and kernel that are available are pretty much bugfree as they are, so you can use it as a daily driver without a problem
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Pretty much every app listed in Greenify is safe to hibernate (unless you start checking a whole lotta checkboxes in the setings; in that case, you are expected to know what you're doing)
To be honest: I tried debloating, Greenifying, etc. all before, but even though they helped a lot, they did not get rid of ALL lag.
I can honestly say that I have been using CM11 for over a month and a half now and I still am very happy with the performance.
Batttery life is so-so, but ten again: I have forgotten what it was like on TW Plus, greenify recovers some of that battery anyway.
You should note that the CM11 development has somewhat died for the t700, which I personally think is really sad considering the age of this Samsung flagship tablet.
But the Rom and kernel that are available are pretty much bugfree as they are, so you can use it as a daily driver without a problem
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Is like prerooted? How does it go? I know you have to install gapps and the rom itself but my question is about the root.
It is pre-rooted, so all you need is a custom recovery and you can start
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It is pre-rooted, so all you need is a custom recovery and you can start
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Thanks!
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
Icharius said:
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
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Getting my Nexus 5X tomorrow but currently use a Nexus 5. With any Nexus you want to start off with setting up the Android SDK and all the Nexus drivers on your computer so if something does go south, you are ready to fix it with the factory images. The first thing I am going to do with mine is put Android N on it since I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Then root and most likely be happy with that for a while. Since Android N will probably be officially released soon, I'm sure that's when a lot of stuff will start happening around here. Hopefully Xposed will get updated to work with it. If so, that will be my setup. Stock, rooted and Xposed. That's basically what I have been running on my Nexus 5 for a while now. But if you want to try out custom ROMs, there are those too.
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Getting my Nexus 5X tomorrow but currently use a Nexus 5. With any Nexus you want to start off with setting up the Android SDK and all the Nexus drivers on your computer so if something does go south, you are ready to fix it with the factory images. The first thing I am going to do with mine is put Android N on it since I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Then root and most likely be happy with that for a while. Since Android N will probably be officially released soon, I'm sure that's when a lot of stuff will start happening around here. Hopefully Xposed will get updated to work with it. If so, that will be my setup. Stock, rooted and Xposed. That's basically what I have been running on my Nexus 5 for a while now. But if you want to try out custom ROMs, there are those too.
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Thanks for your reply. good advice to save the original rom image! I will probably root too, because I usually OC my phones hopefully that won't be so much a hassle.
If I were you, I wouldn't OC at all. Snapdragon 800 series likes to overheat and throttle itself, making it slower than usual.
Icharius said:
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
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I have the N5X for several months.
I previously had the N4, N5, and OnePlus One (still have it, wife uses it).
I used stock, I used to flash ROMs at least twice a week minimum (same on the other devices). Various ROMs, to test their performance, their tweaks, their perks, their battery life... you name it.
However, flashing ROMs and trying out various mods feels very much like living on the road with your backpack on, rather than staying at home and having a steady job. Because while flashing ROMs, you don't always re-install all the things you had (Even if you backup with Titanium Backup, as some things don't survive data restore very well). Last week I made the decision to go stock and stay stock (well, not really, I went stock Android N Preview 5, which will receive OTA to full Nugget in about a month).
I have to tell you... I don't quite feel any difference other than losing a feature or two. Speed is still great; snappiness is snappy, no bugs and no issues. It feels great even though its encypted (by default), while all this time I was certain being un-unecrypted made the device any snappier; that was just a placebo I guess.
So yeah, you can go ahead and flash a custom ROM (or many of them!), but don't do it for improved performance. Stock performance is truly awesome, and while some ROMs make it better, for sure - it's not THAT better, not in any noticeable way. Do it for features, do it for fun, do it for curiosity, DO IT! But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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I have the N5X for several months.
I previously had the N4, N5, and OnePlus One (still have it, wife uses it).
I used stock, I used to flash ROMs at least twice a week minimum (same on the other devices). Various ROMs, to test their performance, their tweaks, their perks, their battery life... you name it.
However, flashing ROMs and trying out various mods feels very much like living on the road with your backpack on, rather than staying at home and having a steady job. Because while flashing ROMs, you don't always re-install all the things you had (Even if you backup with Titanium Backup, as some things don't survive data restore very well). Last week I made the decision to go stock and stay stock (well, not really, I went stock Android N Preview 5, which will receive OTA to full Nugget in about a month).
I have to tell you... I don't quite feel any difference other than losing a feature or two. Speed is still great; snappiness is snappy, no bugs and no issues. It feels great even though its encypted (by default), while all this time I was certain being un-unecrypted made the device any snappier; that was just a placebo I guess.
So yeah, you can go ahead and flash a custom ROM (or many of them!), but don't do it for improved performance. Stock performance is truly awesome, and while some ROMs make it better, for sure - it's not THAT better, not in any noticeable way. Do it for features, do it for fun, do it for curiosity, DO IT! But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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Agree. I used to root and ROM the crap out of phones but with the 5X I've stayed stock. Yeah, I see more ads now and miss Viper4Android but I spend no time F-ing with the phone and all the time just using it. No gyrations to go though to install monthly security updates or trying to get banking apps to work with root (like Android pay). Try it stock for a while.
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If I were you, I wouldn't OC at all. Snapdragon 800 series likes to overheat and throttle itself, making it slower than usual.
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I was reading that thermal problem post, it does present an issue to me because when I ride a bike I usually have the phone on the handle in a rubber case exposed to the sun and the heat that can easily reach over 35°. Thanks for the heads up.
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But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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I hear you, I have prolonged the life of my smartphones more than it should, by tweaking and using customs roms. I have had only 2 other SP in the spam of 6 years and had never had to be subject to a phone/data plan. I just ride the wifis signal or pay per use the 3g signal. Even-thought this LG is not a big inversion in itself, I hope I can squeeze several years of it and the old practice of using custom roms, seems kind of pointless or not worth the trouble considering as you say the stock is as good.
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Agree. . Try it stock for a while.
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Oh I will! there's so much I can do with it as it is, it seems.