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It could be the fact that the G4 is a fairly new phone...it just seems like this forum is a ghost town. I personally love my new phone and I hope development gains some momentum.
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Once a safe root is released things will pick up. After a bootloader solution is found, things will get crazy I'm sure.
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I'm wondering why this place is empty as well. If you head on over to the Android Central blog, there's quite a bit more activity and discussion going on.
Most people are hanging out in the general G4 forum, as there really isn't anything specific to the Verizon G4 when you don't have root.
That a a valid point. I think I'll stop by the lg g4 forum on my lunch break.
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Most people are hanging out in the general G4 forum, as there really isn't anything specific to the Verizon G4 when you don't have root.
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Exactly. Add to that the fact that for the first several weeks, there was only the general G4 forum. The carrier-specific forums are a recent addition. A lot of people had already started engaging in conversations in the general G4 forum and simply became used to going to there.
Just picked up my G4 this week (coming from a G2) I've been following the board since the phone was announced. As mentioned, the carrier specific boards tend to lag behind the general board (which I'm spending the majority of my time (reading) as well).
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Once a safe root is released things will pick up. After a bootloader solution is found, things will get crazy I'm sure.
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Eh, I dunno about that. Samsung and HTC releasing their flagships at around the same time kinda put our babies in the shadow. Granted, typically they're all always released in the same time frame, LG didn't put much marketing effort into their flagship, even though it's arguably the best phone out ATM. I think it's because the larger portion of sales for LG devices are overseas.
Just thought I'd throw this out there because the 1+3 is my first 1+. Can anyone with past 1+ experience give me an idea of first, whether we should expect to get Nougat, and second, if we can expect it, how long after the initial release will it be released for us?
Well, I meant to post this in Q&A, but I guess discussion works too.
Judging by the 1+2, yes, half a year after N goes official.
But who knows, maybe they improved, we got a quick RAM and display fix after all, so I'll say it'll land on january 17th 2017.
You are asking us to predict on something that doesn't yet exist.
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You are asking us to predict on something that doesn't yet exist.
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Can anyone with past 1+ experience
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It's not like my post was even lengthy...
Official update for sure takes months. But i hope CM and AOSP brings us a (more or less stable) N beta some weeks after the launch. So maybe for christmas this year.
Thanks Hatshipuh and Tiz92. That seems like a reasonable time frame.
Oh, and extra points to Hatshipuh for an exact date estimate! :laugh:
Prediction: OP3 will be the first Non-Nexus/HTC/Sony phone to get 7.0, officially or unofficially.
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Prediction: OP3 will be the first Non-Nexus/HTC/Sony phone to get 7.0, officially or unofficially.
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Well said. Wasn't there a pic floating around of the op3 running a preview N? I remember seeing it somewhere online bit I didn't care coz I never thought I would buy this phone at the time.
It was a fake. There were "0"s with different fonts.
History is a cyclic phenomenom.
At each new Android version the same threads, with the same answers: we don't know.
The correct answer is: When it's done. And sooner for custom roms.
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What did you said?
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haha, I was about to say the same thing.
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Just thought I'd throw this out there because the 1+3 is my first 1+. Can anyone with past 1+ experience give me an idea of first, whether we should expect to get Nougat, and second, if we can expect it, how long after the initial release will it be released for us?
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We won't get Android N
Enjoy!
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Come back to future bro, lol
It's better to not count on getting Android N.
And even if it comes, there is a probability that certain things in a N update will be annoying or worse than on Marshmallow so that many users will prefer to not update to N.
But that is OK - on my LG G2 which I used for 2.5 years I still have Android 4.4. And it works, so what?
I heard that Android Nougat will be "6.1". Is it true?
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I heard that Android Nougat will be "6.1". Is it true?
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No, it will be 7.0
I don't pin my hopes high of getting android N anytime sooner than 1 year. I will be relying on custom ROMs. The only thing i will be missing is camera quality. Photos on custom ROMs just don't match with what i can get with stock. Hopefully we get alternative.
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android n for one plus 3 ? in Feb-March 2017 , they have a history of slow updates. best to assume more time to avoid horrible disappointment lol . but who will stay on stock for so long ? i just hope the op3 gets a cam mod that makes us utilize the slow mo video recordings in aosp/cm roms.. then id go ahead.
Okay, so I've never owned an international phone before, but what's the difference between owning a phone like the Oneplus versus owning like a Samsung. Is the band 13 a huge deal? Or is there some sort of work around? I'm sorry I have a lot of questions. I just wanna make sure everything is okay before I buy because this looks like the phone of the year to me. Thanks for the answers in advance!
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Okay, so I've never owned an international phone before, but what's the difference between owning a phone like the Oneplus versus owning like a Samsung. Is the band 13 a huge deal? Or is there some sort of work around? I'm sorry I have a lot of questions. I just wanna make sure everything is okay before I buy because this looks like the phone of the year to me. Thanks for the answers in advance!
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I don't believe Oneplus 3 works with CDMA carriers like Verizon because it doesn't support the 700MHz band. That's what I found by Googling and reading the reviews.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/oneplus-3/689777-will-oneplus-3-work-verizon.html (People's experience with 1+3 and Verizon)
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/14/11931290/oneplus-3-android-smartphone-review (Just do a Ctrl+F and type "verizon")
http://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-3-4G-LTE-bands-support-here-is-which-carriers-it-will-work-on-in-the-United-States_id82192
I'm not familar enough with Samsung devices to say whether or not it would support Verizon out of the box as an unlocked international phone.
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I don't believe Oneplus 3 works with CDMA carriers like Verizon because it doesn't support the 700MHz band. That's what I found by Googling and reading the reviews.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/oneplus-3/689777-will-oneplus-3-work-verizon.html (People's experience with 1+3 and Verizon)
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/14/11931290/oneplus-3-android-smartphone-review (Just do a Ctrl+F and type "verizon")
http://www.phonearena.com/news/OneP...-it-will-work-on-in-the-United-States_id82192
I'm not familar enough with Samsung devices to say whether or not it would support Verizon out of the box as an unlocked international phone.
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I've Googled this before, but it seems like the answers on here are a bit different. Maybe I'm reading something different, but will editing build.props allow me to use this with Verizon and sustain LTE?
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Don't buy this device for Verizon. You are opening yourself up to great frustration for no reason.
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buckeyestilidie said:
I've Googled this before, but it seems like the answers on here are a bit different. Maybe I'm reading something different, but will editing build.props allow me to use this with Verizon and sustain LTE?
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I'm with AndroidSlave on this one, while you could probably hack it together to make it work it likely wouldn't offer the performance return you're used to seeing with it limited by the bands. Also, anytime you do a major system update you'll probably lose your custom APNs and definitely your build.prop changes. I recommend against this phone being used on Verizon unless you just love a challenge.
And if you do love a challenge, please document the adventure for us. Others would probably be thrilled for it to work.
I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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if v4a is all you want for android then get iphone h8r
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if v4a is all you want for android then get iphone h8r
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A h8r wouldn't have android for the last 6 years...smh
There are only 2 types of Android customizers, people who can customize without root and bad customizers
If u really like a locked down device get an iphone. Last jailbreak took 11 months to get. Stock icons sucks on ios. At least u have options with android without root.
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I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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Because an iPhone is more locked down than an Android. It would be really dumb to downgrade to iOS just because your Android has a locked bootloader... That's just like replacing your gaming PC with a cheap Android tablet just because you don't like the new Ubuntu update.
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I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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Where did you see that the bootloader is locked?
So far, only the VZW carrier version is confirmed to be locked.
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Because an iPhone is more locked down than an Android. It would be really dumb to downgrade to iOS just because your Android has a locked bootloader... That's just like replacing your gaming PC with a cheap Android tablet just because you don't like the new Ubuntu update.
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Everyone that has a iPhone isn't dumb. It's not about which OS is the best because they both have their plus and minus. The thing is that android is starting to lock their phones down just like Apple. The options that we all love about android are starting to fade (bootloader, removable battery, sd card). So if this keeps going on, android will be very similar to Apple, which is something none of us want.
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Where did you see that the bootloader is locked?
So far, only the VZW carrier version is confirmed to be locked.
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We won't know until someone gets the phone in their hands. Verizon is definitely locked, but phones bought from Google may not be locked.
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Everyone that has a iPhone isn't dumb. It's not about which OS is the best because they both have their plus and minus. The thing is that android is starting to lock their phones down just like Apple. The options that we all love about android are starting to fade (bootloader, removable battery, sd card). So if this keeps going on, android will be very similar to Apple, which is something none of us want.
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I didn't *say* anything about the intelligence of Apple users, nor did I really talk crap about iOS. All I said was switching to an OS which is *even more* locked down, just because the bootloader is locked, is a dumb decision. Like, you're angry that Android is locked down, so in retaliation you switch to something more locked down. Really??
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I didn't *say* anything about the intelligence of Apple users, nor did I really talk crap about iOS. All I said was switching to an OS which is *even more* locked down, just because the bootloader is locked, is a dumb decision. Like, you're angry that Android is locked down, so in retaliation you switch to something more locked down. Really??
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If they're both locked down more people will move to whichever OS they like because they are becoming more and more similar. You're dumd if you think that's not going to happen for whatever reason that a person chooses is best for them, and not what you think is the best decision. Wow!!!
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If they're both locked down more people will move to whichever OS they like because they are becoming more and more similar. You're dumd if you think that's not going to happen for whatever reason that a person chooses is best for them, and not what you think is the best decision. Wow!!!
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I don't understand the broken grammar in the second sentence.
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I don't understand the broken grammar in the second sentence.
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Lol, you probably wouldn't. Go and troll somewhere else.
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Lol, you probably wouldn't. Go and troll somewhere else.
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Lol how was I trolling? Don't get angry at me cause you don't know how to speak proper English.
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Folks, cut it out. This conversion can't be constructive and inflammatory at the same time. Please be respectful and let's have a mature discussion about this.
That being said, I thought I saw someone who said they got in touch with a Google rep who said the bootloader will unlocked, at least from the Play Store. Take it with a grain of salt, since not all manufacturers' reps know the difference between a bootloader and carrier locks, but this is Google we're talking about.
Now I'm not the most savy on bootloaders, more just an open source dev. But the nexus 6 I got from a verizon store had a locked boot loader. The nexus 6p I had for a short time had a locked boot loader. But they were unlocked fairly easily. From what I have always seem every phone had a locked boot loader that requires it to be unlocked to allow access and write to protected partitions. But the issue that I know is when in gets encrypted is when the issue arises. Without getting the verizon models in hand by a dev, we don't currently know if it is encrypted yet, or has this already been discovered? I highly doubt any verizon rep on the phone or on a chat will know the answer to that question. I believe the htc 10 on verizon has an encrypted bootloader, but it also had the htc bootloader, I assume the pixel is going to have the google boot loader. I just personally wanted to clarify it for my self if my understanding is correct, from someone who has a better grasp on this.
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I'm really hoping it's unlocked because I want this phone, but the note 7 has got me weary.
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We won't know until someone gets the phone in their hands. Verizon is definitely locked, but phones bought from Google may not be locked.
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This Youtube unboxing shows an unlocked bootloader.
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This Youtube unboxing shows an unlocked bootloader.
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The fact that this guy has the phone already makes me think he's unique. Possibly a developer that 1) already unlocked it and just put everything back in just to do an unboxing video or 2) it came that way to him since he is or may be a developer or reviewer.
Either way it's promising that it can be unlocked. All the Nexus phones came locked but were easily unlocked. The Verizon one worries me, but I imagine if it's the exact same model as the Google store version, it shouldn't be hard to get it unlocked by 3rd party means. I'm just waiting on full confirmation before I make my purchase.
Thanks for the video.
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Now I'm not the most savy on bootloaders, more just an open source dev. But the nexus 6 I got from a verizon store had a locked boot loader. The nexus 6p I had for a short time had a locked boot loader. But they were unlocked fairly easily. From what I have always seem every phone had a locked boot loader that requires it to be unlocked to allow access and write to protected partitions. But the issue that I know is when in gets encrypted is when the issue arises. Without getting the verizon models in hand by a dev, we don't currently know if it is encrypted yet, or has this already been discovered? I highly doubt any verizon rep on the phone or on a chat will know the answer to that question. I believe the htc 10 on verizon has an encrypted bootloader, but it also had the htc bootloader, I assume the pixel is going to have the google boot loader. I just personally wanted to clarify it for my self if my understanding is correct, from someone who has a better grasp on this.
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Don't even bother calling Verizon to ask. They will emphatically say "yes it absolutely comes unlocked!" In reality they are referring to the carrier lock, not bootloader. They have no clue on bootloaders.
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Can anyone explain to me why we need a forum for both the Pixel and the XL? Save for Screen size and battery , they are the same phone. and any software for one should work on the other. Right?
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Can anyone explain to me why we need a forum for both the Pixel and the XL? Save for Screen size and battery , they are the same phone. and any software for one should work on the other. Right?
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It is unexplainable. Yes, you're right.
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The two forums are totally not necessary
We need two forums, But they need to be Verizon and Google.
Just my opinion, but given the amount of folks who have made some of the mistakes already made with two forums I can only imagine if they started using the wrong TWRP files, OTAs and system install files designed for the other device LOL. I am used to it at this point regardless of the redundancy, but I do have both a PIxel (wife's) and a Pixel XL (mine).
Not necessarily. Just because the spec sheet boasts that they have the same hardware doesn't mean that's exactly true, and its better to keep them separate then to have a single forum and risk noobs bricking their device because they flashed something that wasn't compatible.
HTC has done something similar in the past and even​ though the devices were extremely similar flashing a rom from the other device would result in a brick.
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