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Should I buy Lenovo Z2 Plus ??

Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here

That are two phones hard to compare.. snapdragon 820 vs 625, 5inch vs 5.5inch etc, fingerprint on front vs on the back etc... how should we know what you need or want?
Both are great..
And for custom roms > how about if you look into the roms, kernels, recovery.. section? Dont be so lazy man

Modder001 said:
Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here
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Warning: Very long story
My purchase of 3Gb variant of Redmi Note 4 was final but could not buy it (everything happens for a good) as delivery was not available by flipkart in my area. I was very sad and finally decided to buy a new, seal packed Redmi Note 3 from ebay at Rs. 9300 (Rs. 10400 was listed price, after applying coupons it became Rs. 9300) as it had performance and recently got franco kernel too (previously available only on Pixels, Nexus and One Plus devices). Finally saw Lenovo Z2 Plus on Snapdeal for Rs. 12000 and immediately purchased it (was hesitant at first reading reviews on Amazon but could not resist SD 820 at this price).
The phone is great, no heating issues and was much better than Redmi Note 3 (Screen quality, camera quality, general performance, looks) when compared side by side as my friend had one. Battery is also good, I get 5-6 hours Screen on time on 4G network with hotspot on and around 7-8 hours SoT on WiFi.
About development, both devices have great roms but Redmi Note 4 has no custom kernel as kernel source codes are not released currently but may or will get them in future when sources are released. Also if you want to be like a trickster and change TV channels of any TV in lobby of any hospital/Hotel, go for Xiaomi phones as they have IR blaster.
The Z2 Plus recently got official Nougat whereas Redmi Note 3 and 4 are still on Marshmallow but that does not matter as you are planning to use a custom rom and all three have 7.1.2 Nougat custom roms.
Conclusion
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
Currently Z2 Plus is available at Rs.13000 at Snapdeal but wait for amazon sale on 11th, previously at an Amazon sale, it was available for 12K and if you get any bank discount (sometimes 10 to 15% off on SBI Card etc during sale), you can get it for 10-11K too.
Go for the black one, it looks very good
Hope this helps
You can also watch reviews and comparison of phones on youtube for better decisions.

hp5942 said:
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
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I am absolutely agree with hp5942's statements. Development for Z2 is only growing, it will be awesome in a few months. Note 3 has one of the best dev support and will have it for a long time. Note 4 is better looking and feeling than Note 3, but it is less speedy device.

I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?

Modder001 said:
I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?
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For long run always go with the phone with more performance.
My friend still has no performance issues with his Mi4 (SD 800, flagship at that time) even after 2.5 years.

if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t

thebiggboss180 said:
if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t
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I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?

Modder001 said:
I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?
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yeah..this phone worth what u paying for.

Why do you guys confuse much. Its good phone for the price. For 13k you are getting snap 820
Its like for the price of audi you getting buggati
Why to get confused. There are minor software hiccups. As you are familiar with xda you can always use custom roms
Hardware wise there are no issues. Build quality is damm solid. I have thrashed my phone many times, but it still survives.
Back glass is lil fragile.

Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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This phone was a worthy buy @18K, it's definitely a steal @12k, but if you can wait, BigBillionDay/GreatIndian sale is around the corner, you might get an even sweeter deal.

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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I bought z2 plus(4,64gb) @ 9.5k from amazon
(Actually 11k - 1.5k cashback)
So wait for any amazon sale
May be buy it on Diwali

For those not used to pimp their phones (unlock bootloader, flash rom etc...), i think Zuk Z2 is not a good choice as the original version is not perfect. But if you like to flash and customize your phone, so yes, 10 times yes,it's a very good phone (have it for almost 1 year and still happy with it).

Anyone as came from the Oneplus 5 to Honor 8 Pro?

Anyone as come from the Oneplus 5 to Honor 8 Pro?
After having returned my OP5 i'm seriously considering H8Pro
Is it a good alternative performance wise? Better? Worst?
As an Amoled lover ... will I be disappointed with the LCD H9Pro screen as to it's deep blacks and vibrant colors?
Will the 2K display compensate for not being Amoled like the one in OP5?
Thanks :good:

jvidia said:
Anyone as come from the Oneplus 5 to Honor 8 Pro?
After having returned my OP5 i'm seriously considering H8Pro
Is it a good alternative performance wise? Better? Worst?
As an Amoled lover ... will I be disappointed with the LCD H9Pro screen as to it's deep blacks and vibrant colors?
Will the 2K display compensate for not being Amoled like the one in OP5?
Thanks :good:
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Why did you return your OP5?
Jelly scrolling issue?
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I've used both the devices. I'm using the Honor 8 pro at this moment. Both the phones are very snappy but 1+5 surely has an edge plus Indian variant of Honor 8 pro gets warm at the back side with light usage too which is no the case with OnePlus 5 with the same exact usage! Display? I'll prefer the one on Honor 8 pro for the 2k res & it's very good looking too (it's very marginal difference, nothing noticeable)

TheDj408 said:
I've used both the devices. I'm using the Honor 8 pro at this moment. Both the phones are very snappy but 1+5 surely has an edge plus Indian variant of Honor 8 pro gets warm at the back side with light usage too which is no the case with OnePlus 5 with the same exact usage! Display? I'll prefer the one on Honor 8 pro for the 2k res & it's very good looking too (it's very marginal difference, nothing noticeable)
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Does your honor 8 pro has emmc or ufs?
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K.khiladi said:
Does your honor 8 pro has emmc or ufs?
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Sadly it is having emmc! Is it safe to assume that all Indian Honor 8 Pros are having EMMC as the price is far cheaper than the Global variant! Plus 6+128 model available!

TheDj408 said:
Sadly it is having emmc! Is it safe to assume that all Indian Honor 8 Pros are having EMMC as the price is far cheaper than the Global variant! Plus 6+128 model available!
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Yup that seems true but then why are they supplying ufs 2.1 versions to reviewers.
Outright cheating.
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K.khiladi said:
Yup that seems true but then why are they supplying ufs 2.1 versions to reviewers.
Outright cheating.
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My opinon- Reviewers received the Global variant (maybe, just maybe) which had UFS! But yes that's not fair as I see many people asking about the same and they are also worried about the heating issue (not uncomfortable though) as they bought the device by watching those "early reviews"

TheDj408 said:
My opinon- Reviewers received the Global variant (maybe, just maybe) which had UFS! But yes that's not fair as I see many people asking about the same and they are also worried about the heating issue (not uncomfortable though) as they bought the device by watching those "early reviews"
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I too was going to order it but this issue has made me take a step back.
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K.khiladi said:
Why did you return your OP5?
Jelly scrolling issue?
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A little but my major problem was that I could not connect to my home router
Only managed to connect to my Devolo 1200+ and not all the times.
Many people have other Wi-Fi problems like drops and speed.
Really bad the Wi-Fi quality on OP5.
K.khiladi said:
Does your honor 8 pro has emmc or ufs?
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But is there 2 variants??
I tough that all Honor 8 Pro had emmc.
The european version has ufs??

jvidia said:
A little but my major problem was that I could not connect to my home router
Only managed to connect to my Devolo 1200+ and not all the times.
Many people have other Wi-Fi problems like drops and speed.
Really bad the Wi-Fi quality on OP5.
But is there 2 variants??
I tough that all Honor 8 Pro had emmc.
The european version has ufs??
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All the reviewers have ufs variant and that's why they are getting better performance on their units. All others have emmc and thus, degraded performance.
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No european buyers here yet that can confirm it europe is receiving emmc or ufs?

Had the Honor 8Pro before the OP5 and OP5 is way better. '(Germany - Got the Honor from Netherlands)
Storage was EMMC - Which really enerved me + at that point in time (1 month after release) no root in sight little XDA coverage etc-
Sent it back within the 14 day period.
Both are nice phones but the op5 is IMHO better.
Joerg

If it would be about the phone only, I'd go with Honor 8 pro but, given the fact I value the development strength when ever I get the chance to get a phone, I'll go with OP5 (if I can buy it :silly: )

joergwrage said:
Had the Honor 8Pro before the OP5 and OP5 is way better. '(Germany - Got the Honor from Netherlands)
Storage was EMMC - Which really enerved me + at that point in time (1 month after release) no root in sight little XDA coverage etc-
Sent it back within the 14 day period.
Both are nice phones but the op5 is IMHO better.
Joerg
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That's resumes well why I didn't go for the H8Po. :good:
I ordered one OP5 Midnight Black 8GB/128GB today. :victory:
Case closed ( I hope ).

jvidia said:
That's resumes well why I didn't go for the H8Po. :good:
I ordered one OP5 Midnight Black 8GB/128GB today. :victory:
Case closed ( I hope ).
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The best decision you made, if you care about development

jvidia said:
That's resumes well why I didn't go for the H8Po. :good:
I ordered one OP5 Midnight Black 8GB/128GB today. :victory:
Case closed ( I hope ).
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Better choice , OP5 Development is On fire , Enjoy OP5

Malaysian version also using emmc.. I think only the reviewers got the ufs units.

mab71 said:
Malaysian version also using emmc.. I think only the reviewers got the ufs units.
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definitely yes

mab71 said:
Malaysian version also using emmc.. I think only the reviewers got the ufs units.
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If it's true then, it's a bummer.
They sent UFS equipped device so they just appear faster in speed tests

nice trick by honor , well played this time

Can you please help me decide? MAX PRO M1 or 5Z?

Hey.
Can anyone help me in deciding which phone to get. My daily usage is mostly mails and instant messaging along with maybe 30 minutes of games. Multi tasking is what I need and my current phone heats up a lot while gaming, so please mention any shortcomings of the 5Z. I have been waiting for the 6GB RAM variant of the MAX PRO for a month, still no ETA.
Should I just go ahead and pull the trigger on the 5Z? or Should I wait for the M1 PRO 6GB? I do like stock android and I've read that the 5z RAM management is not good. Please advise.
Thanks and Cheers!

The 5z is way better.

My OP6 was destroyed by water so I've bought a 5z about 3 days back.
It's mind blowing for the price.
Great battery.
Almost minute warming as compared to OP6.
Standby battery drain of only 01.00% (yes, One%) over 8 hours at night. OP6 had over 7-8%.
Amazing speakers dual.
Not a heavy UI. ZenUI 5.0 is very streamlined.
And the features that are there are very useful.
And the AI does play a role in the background which you notice in small details. And it's supposed to get better with use.

I think between the OP6. And the 5Z it will essentially be about your choice between an IPS and Amoled screen. Many people prefer Amoled but I personally prefer IPS because it is more true to life.
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Mustajab Is'haq said:
Hey.
Can anyone help me in deciding which phone to get. My daily usage is mostly mails and instant messaging along with maybe 30 minutes of games. Multi tasking is what I need and my current phone heats up a lot while gaming, so please mention any shortcomings of the 5Z. I have been waiting for the 6GB RAM variant of the MAX PRO for a month, still no ETA.
Should I just go ahead and pull the trigger on the 5Z? or Should I wait for the M1 PRO 6GB? I do like stock android and I've read that the 5z RAM management is not good. Please advise.
Thanks and Cheers!
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Whoever told you about poor ram management just told you the lie of the century...RAM management is super nice

SUHIT1 said:
Whoever told you about poor ram management just told you the lie of the century...RAM management is super nice
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Thats great!
I'll wait until the end of this month and see if they launch the 6GB MAX PRO M1. else I'll pull the trigger on the 5Z.
Thanks!

Actually, why not just get the Zenfone 5? Sounds like the most perfectly balanced phone in both price and performance.

Mustajab Is'haq said:
Thats great!
I'll wait until the end of this month and see if they launch the 6GB MAX PRO M1. else I'll pull the trigger on the 5Z.
Thanks!
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yes, get the ZE620KL (Zenfone 5 2018) instead
it have the look and feel of 5Z
but same proc as MaxProM1
performance is better (the OS is fluid)
just the battery is fewer but the QuickCharge always supports u

I ended up buying a 6GB 5Z since I figured I'd treat myself after not buying a new phone for 4 years.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys.

The Zenfone 5 doesn't work well in USA. The signal ain't the greatest.
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Will You Upgrade To The Zenfone 6Z?

It's supposed to launch/reveal in May. I have the 5z now and been nothing but happy with the phone. From rumors I've read it's supposed to have the 855sd processor and higher mp cameras 48mp rear with triple cameras from what I've read
If the battery is significantly bigger than the one in the 5z I may end up grabbing and selling my 5z if I like the design and features of the 6z. Not interested in the pop up front cameras tho that may be a reason I pass
Are you keeping a eye on the 6z or are you content with your 5z?
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No need. I just want Lineage OS

No. I'm done with ASUS

sedp23 said:
It's supposed to launch/reveal in May. I have the 5z now and been nothing but happy with the phone. From rumors I've read it's supposed to have the 855sd processor and higher mp cameras 48mp rear with triple cameras from what I've read
If the battery is significantly bigger than the one in the 5z I may end up grabbing and selling my 5z if I like the design and features of the 6z. Not interested in the pop up front cameras tho that may be a reason I pass
Are you keeping a eye on the 6z or are you content with your 5z?
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Yes, if they offer a good buyback option for 5Z users like me OR a healthy discount on a trade in. Otherwise no, I'm happy with this phone and I plan to keep it for at least 3 more years.

Rumored to have a 5000 mAh battery now it's getting interesting
https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_confirms_snapdragon_855_and_headphone_jack_on_zenfone_6-news-36962.php
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If the Price is right, I will.

Probably not.
I had 3 Zenfones in my life and they improved a lot of things,
but the camera it's still the thing I was expecting more. Always a good hardware and bad software.

Development is virtually nonexistent for this device so will never buys an asus product ever, the camera is a joke on Zenfone 5z so forget about buying the 6z

fusioncoast said:
Development is virtually nonexistent for this device so will never buys an asus product ever, the camera is a joke on Zenfone 5z so forget about buying the 6z
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Camera was rated pretty high on the 5z by dxo mark
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I never buy Asus phone in the future , Bad camera Big joke, battery is a joke too , Asus apps are a big joke too ....
I buy oneplus or Samsung phone or Xiaomi mi 9 ...
Huawai die , other manufacturers are ****ty .... Pixel 3a are a bit joke with their problèmes ....

Renaf2 said:
I never buy Asus phone in the future , Bad camera Big joke, battery is a joke too , Asus apps are a big joke too ....
I buy oneplus or Samsung phone or Xiaomi mi 9 ...
Huawai die , other manufacturers are ****ty .... Pixel 3a are a bit joke with their problèmes ....
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Since zenfone 6 changed the ui to a clean stock android, no bloatware, improve camera, giant battery, etc.
And with unlock tool and kernel source code already available, the custom rom community might get a lot of improvement than 5z as well.
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/

poco f1 or asus zenfone 5z?

Plz help me out guys

The zenfone 5z is way better in all categories except battery life. And the battery is not bat on the zenfone. If there is no price difference in your region or if you can afford the zenfone go for it.

I have kinda same question. Can anyone using zenphone 5z tell me about bugs they are currently facing? . Also haven't used zenui before. I dont particularly like miui but still given the budget i can afford i cant buy oneplus (love oxygen OS) or other flagship phones. So i have finalized these two considering they are available at almost same price . Please answer fast if possible as i gotta buy in this week.

Darkknightt said:
I have kinda same question. Can anyone using zenphone 5z tell me about bugs they are currently facing? . Also haven't used zenui before. I dont particularly like miui but still given the budget i can afford i cant buy oneplus (love oxygen OS) or other flagship phones. So i have finalized these two considering they are available at almost same price . Please answer fast if possible as i gotta buy in this week.
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Just bought poco 4 days ago and if u can get it around 15k rupees then i will suggest you to go for it, if you don't like miui you can install any rom like pixel experience , oxygen os , lineage os etc ,
also Poco has a biggest community on xda,
People brag about poco build quality! But it is actually impressive, worth every penny?

Darkknightt said:
I have kinda same question. Can anyone using zenphone 5z tell me about bugs they are currently facing? . Also haven't used zenui before. I dont particularly like miui but still given the budget i can afford i cant buy oneplus (love oxygen OS) or other flagship phones. So i have finalized these two considering they are available at almost same price . Please answer fast if possible as i gotta buy in this week.
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Only bug in zenui, for me, it is the double tap multitasking to switch to the last used app, this in not working all the time. Otherwise the software is great, no bugs and very good performance

bordi21 said:
Only bug in zenui, for me, it is the double tap multitasking to switch to the last used app, this in not working all the time. Otherwise the software is great, no bugs and very good performance
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I went for second hand k20 pro. Costed me Rs 19000 and is in good condition (almost as good as new). So far it is working well, but i dont like miui anyway. Maybe will flash some custom rom after few months.