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Zenfone 5 vs 5z

Are there anyone who own or had used both 5 and 5z? I'm not sure how much difference between sd636 and 845. I know 845 is "superior", but how far? Camera, battery, performance, are they that noticable? They differ for about $150 at my place, so I'm wondering if it's worth the price (and the wait, since 5z isn't out yet here)
can you guys help me decide?

I will really appreciate some comments here as well.

They are basically the same phone but only difference is the processor.

I've had the 5 but not the 5z yet so I can't compare them directly. However I did compare performance between the Zenfone 5 and 2 845 phones (Oneplus 6 and Mi Mix 2s) while I had them. There is no question that the 845 phones are faster. The biggest difference I noticed is with opening apps. The 845 phones were pretty much instant but the Zenfone 5 took a little longer. It wasn't horrible but it was noticeable if you have or have used a phone with an 845 (or 835). This difference is why I sold the Zenfone 5 and am waiting for the 5z to be available in the U.S.

olive23 said:
They are basically the same phone but only difference is the processor.
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Yes, hence this question about the difference between processors
gtchs said:
I've had the 5 but not the 5z yet so I can't compare them directly. However I did compare performance between the Zenfone 5 and 2 845 phones (Oneplus 6 and Mi Mix 2s) while I had them. There is no question that the 845 phones are faster. The biggest difference I noticed is with opening apps. The 845 phones were pretty much instant but the Zenfone 5 took a little longer. It wasn't horrible but it was noticeable if you have or have used a phone with an 845 (or 835). This difference is why I sold the Zenfone 5 and am waiting for the 5z to be available in the U.S.
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So the performance is noticeable at least. Thanks for that. I wish we can compare the camera and battery between Zen5 (636) and OP6, but since even Zen5z is quite different from OP6 with a same processor, I guess we can't do that to the camera result.
My current phone is Zen2 Laser, so I don't think I'll feel the difference since I haven't owned any 845 device. If it's not horrible, and if there's no difference in camera and battery (I'll still ask around and look for more reviews about this), I think I'll go with normal Zen5 for the next 2-4 years.
I still hope you can give more insight when your Zen5z arrived later
edit: from the other thread, I think Zen5z has a bit better battery, but not by much

Help Out in Choosing Between Between Note 5 Pro & Zenfone Max Pro M1

Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul

rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
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Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!

Recommending something can be biased unless you havent tried both and yes its tough choice to make. Now that 6 gigs version of Asus zenfone max pro is released it can surely out perform 5 pro and in your case for a device to stay as much as 2-3 years i would vote hands down for max pro m1 6 gigs since 4+64gigs will age by that time. only thing which was letting max pro down compared to 5 pro was camera which now said to be improved since asus isnt launching zenfone 5 in india so its they're best bit in budget segment market. Speaking of development on both phone should be the same since both are powered by same processor and are treble enabled.
and Yes I am frustated with unlocking bootloader and antiroll thing since its only way they make money by making people use their bloatware and UI which is otherwise in asus case
so verdict ASUS FOR THE GO.

100% Redmi Note 5 Pro
And
Mi A2 Coming Shortly

myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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I actually sold my RN5 Pro yesterday and will get Asus. Left all the groups of Telegram too. It's not worth investing time in custom roms anymore since it's a lot of headache with anti3/4, unlock bootloader etc.
I've used the 4GB Asus variant for few days, exchanged my ph with a friend, I won't say it's bug free phone but there is no phone that's bug free. For Asus: Once you've got used to receive otas from oem, security patches every bi monthly, stock Android with few addons ( double tap), can unlock unofficially and relock for warranty, I feel Asus has a lot of advantage here.
I'm pretty sure few will tell you about prior issues they had specially with Asus Zenphone phs that were based on Intel cpus but I would suggest you to ignore. Asus has learned from such mistakes, went with SD this time which I'm sure will get good dev support if you're into flashing roms.
For me, getting a stock rom ph, easy to root/unlock bootloader just to use ad blocker, good battery life, decent hardware, no boatloader 20 days waiting, no anti3/4, no mi fans nonsense. I've heard the camera outperforms RN5P but I haven't checked about it since I'm sure all mid end phs does the social sharing job. I'm investing my money with Asus this time.

simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.

lawong said:
simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
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The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.

Cirra92 said:
The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
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i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .

Just wait for MI A2.
SDM660
8 August.
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lawong said:
i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
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Oh sorry, forgot to mention the separate slot for SD card, which indeed is nice to have and RGB led which I didn't know it has But since I only use one SIM that's not something I need and speaker wise, it's good enough for me
In the end, one has to choose based on his needs and preferences, I would go for RN5, but that's my 2 cents we are giving pros and cons for both anyway

From reviews that I saw, the Zenfone has a pretty slow fingerprint scanner than the RN5. But they might've fixed that in an update. If I was in India, I'd go for the Zenfone (I wanted to get it before RN5 but I'm not in India), simply for the bigger battery. I'm not much of a camera guy, all I care about is lag free UI, decent gaming performance, good battery life, and sleek modern design.

Redmi note 5 pro, never had any problems in terms of modding & stuff. Besides it's very hard to get your hands on a Zenfone Max M1 (at least here in europe). The choice is yours, both are decent and 4 + 64 will be enough also in 3 years!

myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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Just bit off IP. If you have still troubles with unlocking bootloader. Only thing you need is to use kinda very old Mi Unlock app. I am in work, so I cant provide you with the exact version I used, but I didnt have to wait that ridiculous time. Just PM and I will send u.

Should I buy Redmi Note 5 Pro (whyred)?

Right now I am considering to buy whyred(4gb) or the max pro m1(6gb), both are great devices but the recent arb situation on the whyred is concerning and also I see a lot of people over on the max pro m1 forums complaining about the bugs and battery drain issues.
My usage comprises of heavy gaming, twitch, youtube and social media
I would like to flash pixel experience rom after a couple of months after I get the device.
Screen quality is also a high priority for me (vivid colors and cool tone).
Headphone quality should also be good.
Battery life isn't a huge concern for me but should be adequate for 5hr+ pubg on 1 charge.
Camera doesn't matter.
Build quality should be good as I will be using the device for at most 3 good years.
I am sorry for bothering all of you but I was really confused which one to buy.

taran_p said:
Right now I am considering to buy whyred(4gb) or the max pro m1(6gb), both are great devices but the recent arb situation on the whyred is concerning and also I see a lot of people over on the max pro m1 forums complaining about the bugs and battery drain issues.
My usage comprises of heavy gaming, twitch, youtube and social media
I would like to flash pixel experience rom after a couple of months after I get the device.
Screen quality is also a high priority for me (vivid colors and cool tone).
Headphone quality should also be good.
Battery life isn't a huge concern for me but should be adequate for 5hr+ pubg on 1 charge.
Camera doesn't matter.
Build quality should be good as I will be using the device for at most 3 good years.
I am sorry for bothering all of you but I was really confused which one to buy.
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Buy The Zenfone Max Pro M1 6Gb
You'll get more ram which means better memory management. Also it performs slightly better due to the stock android. The Camera is good as well but the RN5 pro has a slightly better camera(that's why i bought it).
Both the phones have great build quality. And the Max M1 Pro will have greater battery life compared to the RN5 PRO as it has a 5000 mah battery. So you'll be able to game and stream videos for a longer period. The screen is pretty much the same on both devices. Don't get me wrong the RN5 PRO is a great phone for the price but the Zenfone beats it because of the extra Ram and the mammoth battery
Peace .

taran_p said:
Right now I am considering to buy whyred(4gb) or the max pro m1(6gb), both are great devices but the recent arb situation on the whyred is concerning and also I see a lot of people over on the max pro m1 forums complaining about the bugs and battery drain issues.
My usage comprises of heavy gaming, twitch, youtube and social media
I would like to flash pixel experience rom after a couple of months after I get the device.
Screen quality is also a high priority for me (vivid colors and cool tone).
Headphone quality should also be good.
Battery life isn't a huge concern for me but should be adequate for 5hr+ pubg on 1 charge.
Camera doesn't matter.
Build quality should be good as I will be using the device for at most 3 good years.
I am sorry for bothering all of you but I was really confused which one to buy.
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Buy the Redmi note 5 pro because
1. 4gb RAM is definitly enough, it's like 8gb of RAM is enough for PC gaming -> you don't need 16gb. It's the same here: yeah you might have 2gb more of RAM but it doesn't really matter
2. Incredible community/modding support: I've flashed ResurrectionRemix OS and I could even overclock my phone with a custom kernel in notime.
3. The camera is the best one up to 400€: I've searched a lot and I'm pretty sure that's the case: the Redmi note 5 pro camera is incredible, especially with a modded version of google camera (and camera2api lvl3 support on custom roms).
4. Very good screen and "apple like" build quality (so really really good)
5. I play clash royal: the screen is amazing & very good and the game runs very smooth. In addition I watch youtube and twitch and it's really fun because of the big screen and stuff. Again: you would have the same on the Asus zenfone max pro m1 as well but xiaomi is doing pretty well!
6. The asus zenfone max pro m1 is more expansive: On aliexpress (only website I've managed to find it) it's ~250€-300€ at the same time the redmi note 5 pro is ~200€ in a european shop (including taxes) ~160-180€ in a china shop.
It's up to you: both phones are pretty good but I would give the redmi note 5 pro an advantage.

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Buy the Redmi note 5 pro because
1. 4gb RAM is definitly enough, it's like 8gb of RAM is enough for PC gaming -> you don't need 16gb. It's the same here: yeah you might have 2gb more of RAM but it doesn't really matter
2. Incredible community/modding support: I've flashed ResurrectionRemix OS and I could even overclock my phone with a custom kernel in notime.
3. The camera is the best one up to 400€: I've searched a lot and I'm pretty sure that's the case: the Redmi note 5 pro camera is incredible, especially with a modded version of google camera (and camera2api lvl3 support on custom roms).
4. Very good screen and "apple like" build quality (so really really good)
5. I play clash royal: the screen is amazing & very good and the game runs very smooth. In addition I watch youtube and twitch and it's really fun because of the big screen and stuff. Again: you would have the same on the Asus zenfone max pro m1 as well but xiaomi is doing pretty well!
6. The asus zenfone max pro m1 is more expansive: On aliexpress (only website I've managed to find it) it's ~250€-300€ at the same time the redmi note 5 pro is ~200€ in a european shop (including taxes) ~160-180€ in a china shop.
It's up to you: both phones are pretty good but I would give the redmi note 5 pro an advantage.
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Zenfone Max Pro M1 is India exclusive that's why you couldn't find it anywhere. On Flipkart, it is cheaper than the RN5 Pro, 3rd party sellers on websites like Aliexpress will want to make a profit, thus the higher price tag.
I'd personally go with the RN5.

Is Mi Max 1 worth buying in 2018? or is there any better alternatives?

Hello everyone, I need your opinion and help
TLDR I need phone with big screen and good performance, is Mi Max 1 still worth buying in 2018?
Long Story
I need device with big screen and good performance vs price. After long searching, going back and forth in tablet or phablet
I found that Mi Max is one of the best contender, with old but strong SD 650 and humongous 6.5" screen.
There's Redmi Note 5 Pro with 5.99" screen, better performance but I already have Mi 6 with 5.2" display, the display difference isn't that much, so I think there's no point having Note 5 Pro.
on the other hand, Mi Max 2 is good but weak, and Mi Max 3 is beast but too expensive.
On the good side, Mi Max is big,cheap, and good performance and rich XDA community. There's less to no bug on each new developed ROMs, right? as Zenfone 2 user I'm jelly haha :silly:
On the down side, it's 2yrs old already, still use micro USB.
I find it difficult to find another device that can beat this proposition but I'm open to any new suggestions.
I'm thinking of buying the 3/32 variant around $124
I'm gonna use this phone for multimedia, little bit of gaming (PUBG, Vainglory etc), and probably as car HUD.
So, what do you think? is it still worth it? Is there any other alternatives?
Thanks in advance

A.f.a.I.c. there are no better alternatives yet. First of all, screen size and ratio is most important for me. All phablets have that ugly notch these days and no dedicated hardware buttons. I've been looking at the Mi Max 3, but found out it has no coloured LED notification light (how stupid is that?). Huawei Honor Note 10 may be an option, but don't like the EMUI shell.
What's wrong with micro USB? You could use one of these if you don't like the micro USB connector, a lot cheaper than buying a new phone
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAXFLY-Mic...1b:m:m7hqOpyZpTqJRBibCHhC9_A&var=601537300954

The Mi Max 3 has much better camera but the CPU is not very fast, does not have NFC (AGAIN) and no LED colour notifications. I wouldn't but the 3/32, get a deal for the 652 ones or wait till something better comes our way.

maybe LG V20 ?
I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )

pierro78 said:
I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )
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I don't trust LG. And it's not that big....

I would not buy the snapdragon 650 variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
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I would not buy the snapdragon 650(2gb/32gb or 3gb/32gb) variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
I have the 650 variant, and it is a bit slow and youtube 2x speed freezes at 720p60fps or higher.

If your S650 device is having issues with 720p YouTube content then it is purely your private issue. I own Mi Max 1 3/32 for 2 years now and never had a lag/spike during watching any videos. This goes for YouTube, Twitch and many other services.
And now to the topic:
After 2 years I'm still able to get 3-4 days up with 9h sot (it used to be 10h+). Device is fast. Heck, I'm using miui 10 right now with CPU governor set to powersafe and battery optimization turned on - no lags at all. Modded gcam improves photos a lot. If you can get this phone really cheap then go for it. If you do not need such phone right now then do the same thing I'll do - wait until November sales (11.11 if I'm not mistaken) - most phones get their prices cut down a bit by then - and buy a Mi Max 3 (6.9 inches with same phone size will be great for media consumption). I used to change phones every 4-6 months. Mi Max is first phone I own for such a long time because there is simply no competition for this price.

No problems here with youtube or Twitch. I have the 652 variant, though.

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Despite the color, the notification led of Mi Max 3 is barely noticable. They should allow to use the front flash instead.

Thank you for the responses so far, I really apreciate it, guys :highfive:
dio62000 said:
A.f.a.I.c. there are no better alternatives yet. First of all, screen size and ratio is most important for me. All phablets have that ugly notch these days and no dedicated hardware buttons. I've been looking at the Mi Max 3, but found out it has no coloured LED notification light (how stupid is that?). Huawei Honor Note 10 may be an option, but don't like the EMUI shell.
What's wrong with micro USB? You could use one of these if you don't like the micro USB connector, a lot cheaper than buying a new phone
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAXFLY-Mic...1b:m:m7hqOpyZpTqJRBibCHhC9_A&var=601537300954
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I agreed, no better alternatives yet for this such price vs display vs performance, and ofc notches be gone lol.
I have no prob with colorless LED Notification tho'
Honor Note 10 price rn is $510 for 4/64, that's crazy. Also I don't want to do the same mistake with Huawei/Kirin like I did with Asus/Intel. I would love to have stable custom ROM for once lol.
MicroUSB is just me being nitpicky hahaha, I don't have anything against MicroUSB tho, since most of my gadget still use it.
I also looking for that particular acc but Xiaomi Mi6 isn't compatible with magnetic adapter..meh..too bad (CMIIW)
PlanDreaM said:
The Mi Max 3 has much better camera but the CPU is not very fast, does not have NFC (AGAIN) and no LED colour notifications. I wouldn't but the 3/32, get a deal for the 652 ones or wait till something better comes our way.
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NFC might not too important for now, not in my home country at least hahaha
Hm.. but how abt the custom ROM compability for 652? I heard 650 is more popular and stable.
I checked Mi Max SD652 3/64 is about $147
pierro78 said:
I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )
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Nice idea, but V20 still too small, I wish they went full Max like Mi Max
The price difference not that high for the V20 2nd hand unit tho'
souljaboy said:
I would not buy the snapdragon 650 variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
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I would not buy the snapdragon 650(2gb/32gb or 3gb/32gb) variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
I have the 650 variant, and it is a bit slow and youtube 2x speed freezes at 720p60fps or higher.
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How about the SD 652 compability for custom ROMs? and also I read SD 652 consume battery lot more and over heat more than SD 650
here's the article https://www.techcenturion.com/snapdragon-625-vs-650-vs-652
And what about normal speed? does it struggle too at 60fps?
$250 is twice the budget I have right now for Max1 lol
Maczuga said:
If your S650 device is having issues with 720p YouTube content then it is purely your private issue. I own Mi Max 1 3/32 for 2 years now and never had a lag/spike during watching any videos. This goes for YouTube, Twitch and many other services.
And now to the topic:
After 2 years I'm still able to get 3-4 days up with 9h sot (it used to be 10h+). Device is fast. Heck, I'm using miui 10 right now with CPU governor set to powersafe and battery optimization turned on - no lags at all. Modded gcam improves photos a lot. If you can get this phone really cheap then go for it. If you do not need such phone right now then do the same thing I'll do - wait until November sales (11.11 if I'm not mistaken) - most phones get their prices cut down a bit by then - and buy a Mi Max 3 (6.9 inches with same phone size will be great for media consumption). I used to change phones every 4-6 months. Mi Max is first phone I own for such a long time because there is simply no competition for this price.
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Beta MIUI 10? Even my Mi6 didn't get official stable MIUI 10 yet lol
3-3days up? sounds promising hahaha
I'm thinking of putting Ressurection Remix in Mi Max tho' and I'd like to try gcam mod
The price rn still stable at $124
True, Max 3 have nearly identical physical size of Max 1. But the price is still outrageous (but it's a new new device ofc), I checked it's around $270 in here, price cut won't do them much justice.
I might not need such device urgently but I'm itching to buy one lol

Tertatabata said:
Beta MIUI 10? Even my Mi6 didn't get official stable MIUI 10 yet lol
3-3days up? sounds promising hahaha
I'm thinking of putting Ressurection Remix in Mi Max tho' and I'd like to try gcam mod
The price rn still stable at $124
True, Max 3 have nearly identical physical size of Max 1. But the price is still outrageous (but it's a new new device ofc), I checked it's around $270 in here, price cut won't do them much justice.
I might not need such device urgently but I'm itching to buy one lol
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Yea, MIUI 10 from Xiaomi.eu - most of Xiaomi phones got their builds there, you might wanna check it out. I had to switch back again to RR 5.8.5 due to WiFi drain for me on MIUI 10. $124 is a pretty good price for Mi Max. I'd go for it. Or just like I said before - wait until 11.11 (but I wouldn't expect for price to drop that much on Mi Max 1). After doing more research I think I'm gonna wait for some other phone to show up for upgrade, so looks like 1 more year with Mi Max for me . Mi Max 3 is not really an upgrade if you take a look on that closely (battery feels even worse). Who knows, maybe Xiaomi sub-brand POCOPHONE will show up with something interesing (F1 already looks promissing, but there is no IR blaster for remote nor NFC for payments, so already too much to give up).

Should I Buy Asus Zenfone 5z in 2019

Hi,
everyone,
Should I buy Asus Zenfone 5Z in 2019?
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
What about after android p ?

Micheal86 said:
Hi,
everyone,
Should I buy Asus Zenfone 5Z in 2019?
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
What about after android p ?
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It's the best phone in the 25k segment. Buy it in Flipkart discounted sales where price us as low as 22k. Good software, good cameras, a few minor bugs.
This phone will be getting the Android Q update when it releases.

Aarun_01 said:
It's the best phone in the 25k segment. Buy it in Flipkart discounted sales where price us as low as 22k. Good software, good cameras, a few minor bugs.
This phone will be getting the Android Q update when it releases.
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Thanks for your quick reply.
What about the battery life and headphone audio quality after android p update ?
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Micheal86 said:
Thanks for your quick reply.
What about the battery life and headphone audio quality after android p update ?
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Awesome.

It's a good buy. Good cameras, stereo speakers and runs great. I haven't had any issues with mines gets updates pretty much every 2 months.
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Micheal86 said:
Hi,
everyone,
Should I buy Asus Zenfone 5Z in 2019?
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
What about after android p ?
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It's a decent device and you can be ok with 3300 MAH battery , corning gorrilla glass. 3 and lcd display..
go ahead buy it .. Its prices has been reduced and its the best that can be offered by snapdragon 845.
If not you can buy one plus 6T as well.
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hi,
I would say avoid it at the moment. There is much price gap with Zenfone 6 and it is a far better phone. If you dont want the Zenfone 6 you can even look at the Redmi k20 pro or the normal variant whichever come to India

I would say it depends on the price, for example in my country I manage to get it at a lower price that the pocophone f1( 350 USD).

bordi21 said:
I would say it depends on the price, for example in my country I manage to get it at a lower price that the pocophone f1( 350 USD).
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Once the Zenfone 6 is available the 5z should drop to at least 300 to 350
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Why anyone will think about purchasing a device which doesn't seem to interest xda developer. Earlier there were few hopes but customization of zenfone 5z almost always leads to bricking of device and there's little to no support for unbricking. You won't even be certified on Google Play once u root using the tool provided by asus, making the device completely unsafe for daily use, There are lots of device with great xda support, find out them and forget about zenfone 5z, believe me all they did with ZenUI is limited the device day by day with each new release and soon there'll a day when you hardly get to do anything apart from calling.

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Its a very good phone with 845...and an OIS which Z6 lacks....I got 8GB-256GB for 24k in flipkart offer...Wanted to go for 1+7...but after looking at this deal ..i grabbed it...with latest pie update antutu score was 294500 ...Battery drains fast when you play games at high resolution....that is the only issue i found....