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Which MI to get?

Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:

Mi5 has better camera for video (thanks to OIS) than Mi5s, otherwise they are very similar. Mi5 is longer out and thus has more chances for a custom rom. It does look like there will be some CM support (or whatever it is now called) for the Mi5s, there is one build here in the forum.
No idea about the 5s Plus.
Memory management is hard to say, but Android loves to have ram, so in general it's better to have more than less. Then again, this really depends on the ROM too.

domsch1988 said:
Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
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If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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nelnel002 said:
If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
Sent from my ZTE ZTE A2017G using XDA Labs
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Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331

I'm with @dabyd64.
Mi5s has better construction than Mi5 (Aluminum vs Ceramic).
Mi5s is a little heavier (around 15g) and around 1mm bigger at 3 axis (difficult to tell a diference side by side).
Mi5s and Google Pixel have the same camera sensor, one of best as today.
Mi5s take better photos and regarding video Mi5s have EIS (at 1080) that is working better than Mi5 with OIS.
It could be better if Xiaomi invest on image processing algoritm like google did on pixel mobile.
Right now, Mi5 has better comunity support because was released first, more users, and kernel sources already released by Xiaomi.
I doubt Mi5s will have better support than Mi5, but i'm pretty sure we get the major roms.
Mi5 has infrared and could work as a remote control, this is the unique feature loss on Mi5s.
For me, Mi5s all the way. I would avoid Mi5s plus, if you really want a proper dual camera implementation -> Huawei P9.
We have to understand that a dual camera solution is all about image processing. For me, Xiaomi implementation was a failure.
If you need 5.5" screen size i would go for oneplus 3t.
Mi Note 2 has an oled 5.7" curved screen with te same 1080 resolution, so lower pixel density.
I really hate curved screens, and it's a pain to protect those devices.
It has a bigger battery, but generally bigger screen more consume, on the other hand oled consume less than lcd, you have to analyse sot.
200€ more relatively to 300€ it's significative, i would say put 200€ aside for a new one later on.

Not OP, but I would like to say thanks to @BPSoft and the other people who answered this question, as I'm in the same boat right now. Want to upgrade from my Mi4, and considering Mi5 and Mi5s. But the price is too close.
Do you think it is worth waiting for Mi5s price to drop a little bit more before buying? I am not very keen on using it with MIUI8 (jury's out for future MIUI 9), so I would be waiting for a custom ROM (CM, AOSP, ...). What do you think?

Custom, somewhat stable, ROM could be a way off for the Mi 5s, as the kernel source hasn't been released yet. At least there is a global rom now for the Mi 5s, but I'm not sure if that can be bought preinstalled. Not a big thing, but maybe waiting one more week (until CES is over) might mean a tiny bit lower prices.

Mi5s is at its lowest price ever, though (about 265€ for me). So many decisions... but I think i'll go for it.
Even if not preinstalled you can always unlock bootloader and install the global ROM, corect?

This is correct. Actually, if you run the official China build, you can simply download the Recovery Rom to the phone, open the Updater app, select the rom and it will flash it. No unlock needed. Works also with some, but not all, "shop roms" (globalized non official builds).

I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.

domsch1988 said:
Currently the axon 7 is an option too.
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For a 5.5" screen size, i prefer Oneplus 3T, huge support here at XDA, 6GB Ram, SD821 instead of SD820, 64/128GB internal space, but without sd card support.
See here for a comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
Regarding photo quality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
As you can see 20Mpx says nothing about picture quality :cyclops:
domsch1988 said:
But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm more optimistic, i expect "Mi6" release at March, like it was with Mi5. SD835 is expected. If i could, i would wait!

dabyd64 said:
Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
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So it depends if you want OIS or faster capture. For my opinion cm development to mi5s Will take some time, soon we will have the mi6, so that's always the same thing , when we have some development there's another upgraded device that came out. We'll stay stock whit MIUI .
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domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I have axon 7 too and it's my daily driver, that's another league. QHD AMOLED,3250mah battery, not stock but almost whit some nice features, stereo speakers whit Dolby Atmos, nice camera I would say a little better than op3. nice materials and naugat to the end of January.
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What I really liked is the screen / size ratio, I think it's one of the 'smaller' phones which still has really good specs, decent screen and of course dual sim.

domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm going to do the exact same, wait for SD835 and if i don't think it's worth it ill buy a cheaper mi5s

Help Out in Choosing Between Between Note 5 Pro & Zenfone Max Pro M1

Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul

rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
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Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!

Recommending something can be biased unless you havent tried both and yes its tough choice to make. Now that 6 gigs version of Asus zenfone max pro is released it can surely out perform 5 pro and in your case for a device to stay as much as 2-3 years i would vote hands down for max pro m1 6 gigs since 4+64gigs will age by that time. only thing which was letting max pro down compared to 5 pro was camera which now said to be improved since asus isnt launching zenfone 5 in india so its they're best bit in budget segment market. Speaking of development on both phone should be the same since both are powered by same processor and are treble enabled.
and Yes I am frustated with unlocking bootloader and antiroll thing since its only way they make money by making people use their bloatware and UI which is otherwise in asus case
so verdict ASUS FOR THE GO.

100% Redmi Note 5 Pro
And
Mi A2 Coming Shortly

myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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I actually sold my RN5 Pro yesterday and will get Asus. Left all the groups of Telegram too. It's not worth investing time in custom roms anymore since it's a lot of headache with anti3/4, unlock bootloader etc.
I've used the 4GB Asus variant for few days, exchanged my ph with a friend, I won't say it's bug free phone but there is no phone that's bug free. For Asus: Once you've got used to receive otas from oem, security patches every bi monthly, stock Android with few addons ( double tap), can unlock unofficially and relock for warranty, I feel Asus has a lot of advantage here.
I'm pretty sure few will tell you about prior issues they had specially with Asus Zenphone phs that were based on Intel cpus but I would suggest you to ignore. Asus has learned from such mistakes, went with SD this time which I'm sure will get good dev support if you're into flashing roms.
For me, getting a stock rom ph, easy to root/unlock bootloader just to use ad blocker, good battery life, decent hardware, no boatloader 20 days waiting, no anti3/4, no mi fans nonsense. I've heard the camera outperforms RN5P but I haven't checked about it since I'm sure all mid end phs does the social sharing job. I'm investing my money with Asus this time.

simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.

lawong said:
simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
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The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.

Cirra92 said:
The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
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i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .

Just wait for MI A2.
SDM660
8 August.
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lawong said:
i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
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Oh sorry, forgot to mention the separate slot for SD card, which indeed is nice to have and RGB led which I didn't know it has But since I only use one SIM that's not something I need and speaker wise, it's good enough for me
In the end, one has to choose based on his needs and preferences, I would go for RN5, but that's my 2 cents we are giving pros and cons for both anyway

From reviews that I saw, the Zenfone has a pretty slow fingerprint scanner than the RN5. But they might've fixed that in an update. If I was in India, I'd go for the Zenfone (I wanted to get it before RN5 but I'm not in India), simply for the bigger battery. I'm not much of a camera guy, all I care about is lag free UI, decent gaming performance, good battery life, and sleek modern design.

Redmi note 5 pro, never had any problems in terms of modding & stuff. Besides it's very hard to get your hands on a Zenfone Max M1 (at least here in europe). The choice is yours, both are decent and 4 + 64 will be enough also in 3 years!

myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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Just bit off IP. If you have still troubles with unlocking bootloader. Only thing you need is to use kinda very old Mi Unlock app. I am in work, so I cant provide you with the exact version I used, but I didnt have to wait that ridiculous time. Just PM and I will send u.

Is Mi Max 1 worth buying in 2018? or is there any better alternatives?

Hello everyone, I need your opinion and help
TLDR I need phone with big screen and good performance, is Mi Max 1 still worth buying in 2018?
Long Story
I need device with big screen and good performance vs price. After long searching, going back and forth in tablet or phablet
I found that Mi Max is one of the best contender, with old but strong SD 650 and humongous 6.5" screen.
There's Redmi Note 5 Pro with 5.99" screen, better performance but I already have Mi 6 with 5.2" display, the display difference isn't that much, so I think there's no point having Note 5 Pro.
on the other hand, Mi Max 2 is good but weak, and Mi Max 3 is beast but too expensive.
On the good side, Mi Max is big,cheap, and good performance and rich XDA community. There's less to no bug on each new developed ROMs, right? as Zenfone 2 user I'm jelly haha :silly:
On the down side, it's 2yrs old already, still use micro USB.
I find it difficult to find another device that can beat this proposition but I'm open to any new suggestions.
I'm thinking of buying the 3/32 variant around $124
I'm gonna use this phone for multimedia, little bit of gaming (PUBG, Vainglory etc), and probably as car HUD.
So, what do you think? is it still worth it? Is there any other alternatives?
Thanks in advance

A.f.a.I.c. there are no better alternatives yet. First of all, screen size and ratio is most important for me. All phablets have that ugly notch these days and no dedicated hardware buttons. I've been looking at the Mi Max 3, but found out it has no coloured LED notification light (how stupid is that?). Huawei Honor Note 10 may be an option, but don't like the EMUI shell.
What's wrong with micro USB? You could use one of these if you don't like the micro USB connector, a lot cheaper than buying a new phone
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAXFLY-Mic...1b:m:m7hqOpyZpTqJRBibCHhC9_A&var=601537300954

The Mi Max 3 has much better camera but the CPU is not very fast, does not have NFC (AGAIN) and no LED colour notifications. I wouldn't but the 3/32, get a deal for the 652 ones or wait till something better comes our way.

maybe LG V20 ?
I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )

pierro78 said:
I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )
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I don't trust LG. And it's not that big....

I would not buy the snapdragon 650 variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
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I would not buy the snapdragon 650(2gb/32gb or 3gb/32gb) variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
I have the 650 variant, and it is a bit slow and youtube 2x speed freezes at 720p60fps or higher.

If your S650 device is having issues with 720p YouTube content then it is purely your private issue. I own Mi Max 1 3/32 for 2 years now and never had a lag/spike during watching any videos. This goes for YouTube, Twitch and many other services.
And now to the topic:
After 2 years I'm still able to get 3-4 days up with 9h sot (it used to be 10h+). Device is fast. Heck, I'm using miui 10 right now with CPU governor set to powersafe and battery optimization turned on - no lags at all. Modded gcam improves photos a lot. If you can get this phone really cheap then go for it. If you do not need such phone right now then do the same thing I'll do - wait until November sales (11.11 if I'm not mistaken) - most phones get their prices cut down a bit by then - and buy a Mi Max 3 (6.9 inches with same phone size will be great for media consumption). I used to change phones every 4-6 months. Mi Max is first phone I own for such a long time because there is simply no competition for this price.

No problems here with youtube or Twitch. I have the 652 variant, though.

PlanDreaM said:
and no LED colour notifications
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Despite the color, the notification led of Mi Max 3 is barely noticable. They should allow to use the front flash instead.

Thank you for the responses so far, I really apreciate it, guys :highfive:
dio62000 said:
A.f.a.I.c. there are no better alternatives yet. First of all, screen size and ratio is most important for me. All phablets have that ugly notch these days and no dedicated hardware buttons. I've been looking at the Mi Max 3, but found out it has no coloured LED notification light (how stupid is that?). Huawei Honor Note 10 may be an option, but don't like the EMUI shell.
What's wrong with micro USB? You could use one of these if you don't like the micro USB connector, a lot cheaper than buying a new phone
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAXFLY-Mic...1b:m:m7hqOpyZpTqJRBibCHhC9_A&var=601537300954
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I agreed, no better alternatives yet for this such price vs display vs performance, and ofc notches be gone lol.
I have no prob with colorless LED Notification tho'
Honor Note 10 price rn is $510 for 4/64, that's crazy. Also I don't want to do the same mistake with Huawei/Kirin like I did with Asus/Intel. I would love to have stable custom ROM for once lol.
MicroUSB is just me being nitpicky hahaha, I don't have anything against MicroUSB tho, since most of my gadget still use it.
I also looking for that particular acc but Xiaomi Mi6 isn't compatible with magnetic adapter..meh..too bad (CMIIW)
PlanDreaM said:
The Mi Max 3 has much better camera but the CPU is not very fast, does not have NFC (AGAIN) and no LED colour notifications. I wouldn't but the 3/32, get a deal for the 652 ones or wait till something better comes our way.
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NFC might not too important for now, not in my home country at least hahaha
Hm.. but how abt the custom ROM compability for 652? I heard 650 is more popular and stable.
I checked Mi Max SD652 3/64 is about $147
pierro78 said:
I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )
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Nice idea, but V20 still too small, I wish they went full Max like Mi Max
The price difference not that high for the V20 2nd hand unit tho'
souljaboy said:
I would not buy the snapdragon 650 variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
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I would not buy the snapdragon 650(2gb/32gb or 3gb/32gb) variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
I have the 650 variant, and it is a bit slow and youtube 2x speed freezes at 720p60fps or higher.
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How about the SD 652 compability for custom ROMs? and also I read SD 652 consume battery lot more and over heat more than SD 650
here's the article https://www.techcenturion.com/snapdragon-625-vs-650-vs-652
And what about normal speed? does it struggle too at 60fps?
$250 is twice the budget I have right now for Max1 lol
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If your S650 device is having issues with 720p YouTube content then it is purely your private issue. I own Mi Max 1 3/32 for 2 years now and never had a lag/spike during watching any videos. This goes for YouTube, Twitch and many other services.
And now to the topic:
After 2 years I'm still able to get 3-4 days up with 9h sot (it used to be 10h+). Device is fast. Heck, I'm using miui 10 right now with CPU governor set to powersafe and battery optimization turned on - no lags at all. Modded gcam improves photos a lot. If you can get this phone really cheap then go for it. If you do not need such phone right now then do the same thing I'll do - wait until November sales (11.11 if I'm not mistaken) - most phones get their prices cut down a bit by then - and buy a Mi Max 3 (6.9 inches with same phone size will be great for media consumption). I used to change phones every 4-6 months. Mi Max is first phone I own for such a long time because there is simply no competition for this price.
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Beta MIUI 10? Even my Mi6 didn't get official stable MIUI 10 yet lol
3-3days up? sounds promising hahaha
I'm thinking of putting Ressurection Remix in Mi Max tho' and I'd like to try gcam mod
The price rn still stable at $124
True, Max 3 have nearly identical physical size of Max 1. But the price is still outrageous (but it's a new new device ofc), I checked it's around $270 in here, price cut won't do them much justice.
I might not need such device urgently but I'm itching to buy one lol

Tertatabata said:
Beta MIUI 10? Even my Mi6 didn't get official stable MIUI 10 yet lol
3-3days up? sounds promising hahaha
I'm thinking of putting Ressurection Remix in Mi Max tho' and I'd like to try gcam mod
The price rn still stable at $124
True, Max 3 have nearly identical physical size of Max 1. But the price is still outrageous (but it's a new new device ofc), I checked it's around $270 in here, price cut won't do them much justice.
I might not need such device urgently but I'm itching to buy one lol
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Yea, MIUI 10 from Xiaomi.eu - most of Xiaomi phones got their builds there, you might wanna check it out. I had to switch back again to RR 5.8.5 due to WiFi drain for me on MIUI 10. $124 is a pretty good price for Mi Max. I'd go for it. Or just like I said before - wait until 11.11 (but I wouldn't expect for price to drop that much on Mi Max 1). After doing more research I think I'm gonna wait for some other phone to show up for upgrade, so looks like 1 more year with Mi Max for me . Mi Max 3 is not really an upgrade if you take a look on that closely (battery feels even worse). Who knows, maybe Xiaomi sub-brand POCOPHONE will show up with something interesing (F1 already looks promissing, but there is no IR blaster for remote nor NFC for payments, so already too much to give up).

To buy or not...

It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?

Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.

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It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?
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Yes, absolutely. I'm looking forward to purchase the 128gb varient. I LOVE compact phones, especially the ones with flagship spec i.e. Sony. But I'm definitely getting the Mi 9 SE.

Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....

It depends on what is important for you. I am planning to buy too, after I have seen some reviews and possibly if I see some development activity here.
The reasons I would buy this phone are: small size, amoled screen, quite decent chipset and nfc.
I would personally not buy the galaxy s10e because of the high price and the lack of developement I have seen with their previous phones.

kagazushi said:
Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....
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After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!

keeeper said:
Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.
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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?

WhatzIt2Ya said:
After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!
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Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)

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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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I just watched a couple of reviews and forum posts so mine is not a "direct" opinion, anyway
About photos, they are very good. They are not great, as well as big brother Mi 9, probably that's due to the software: AI and drivers are still not perfectly calibrated on Sony IMX586. It looks like worst than Mi 8, even if on paper Mi9/Mi9SE should have a better sensor.
About battery, it's enough! If you use dark theme, you can reach 6 hours of display on. Recently Xiaomi released DC function for Mi 9 , maybe we will see the same for Mi 9 SE because both have AMOLED display, which can benefit of this DC function.
If battery sometime isn't enough, QC @ 18W can pump in a few minutes the energy you need to reach late night.

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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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Photos during daylight are great, just as you wish them to be. Every lens is doing it's job well - you can get a nice close up photo with zoom, wide angle lens proved to be useful as well, bokeh is nice (but it used to be so even on Mi 6). I am a little disappointed with night mode though - before I was playing with it on Mix 3 and there the results looked like magic, here are mediocre. It looks like the algorithm is only increasing the general brightness of the photo without recognizing the difference between stuff which should be visible and that is supposed to remain dark. The effect is obviously worse than on Mi 9 (basing on the reviews).
The battery is sufficient. Mi 9 SE as a smaller size phone is not bought for gaming therefore for any other activity can be used quite long. E.g. I've got over 14 hours of continuous movie play (MX Player HW+) and 25 hours when left as a clock (Big Clock app on Google Play). When you're not using the phone the battery drain is about 1% per hour with Ambient Display on.

kagazushi said:
Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)
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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.

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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan

kagazushi said:
Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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Nah, the only reason why switched to custom for a while is because the wifi problem, everyone is facing this issue. It's disconnects won't won't connect back, and 5ghz wifi speed is very poor.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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I want the mi 9 se as a replacement device. I finally want a premium (cut down) flagship phone, and hopefully will last for about 4 years or more.

Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.

winesh said:
Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.
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Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.

Rdavis27 said:
Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.
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It is also listed on geekbuying for buying, not only for preorder.
6/64 edition for about 330€ after using coupons seems to be quite a good deal.

Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.

Flounderist said:
Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.
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Miui and oem updates aren't the issue for me.

Ok, so to summerize:
- Small from factor
- Amoled screen
- Indisplay fingerprint
- 4G b20 and b28
- Widevine L1
- 6Gb RAM
A part for the CPU power, it is even more interesting for me than s10e, and for half the price.
So I definetly swap my OnePlus 6 for this device. The last question is where should we buy it to be sure we have the global version?
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.

kagazushi said:
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.
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I would reccomend honorbuy because of european stock and no VAT on delivery (if you are based in Europe).
Devices are shipped with european socket charger.
If you buy on Aliexpress you must check any custom duty that would be added to the shipment in your country.

Phone got stuck at mi logo

I was on a custom rom (pixel experience) and my phone was rooted and when I tried to undo the root and restart the device it got stuck in the mi logo. What should I do

Iamashu18 said:
I was on a custom rom (pixel experience) and my phone was rooted and when I tried to undo the root and restart the device it got stuck in the mi logo. What should I do
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I will suggest you...
boot into TWRP --> Format Data --> Install ROM again !

Iamashu18 said:
I was on a custom rom (pixel experience) and my phone was rooted and when I tried to undo the root and restart the device it got stuck in the mi logo. What should I do
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D-Load a version of the Stock ROM ( 9.5.17.0 if you can... ) transfer it from you computer and flash it..

reboot phone to twrp mode and make a backup of your data if u want data not to be lost.
flash your custom rom,and again go to twrp mode and restore your data excluding(system) and reboot the device.
try it,it worked for me without loss of data.

RaiderWill said:
D-Load a version of the Stock ROM ( 9.5.17.0 if you can... ) transfer it from you computer and flash it..
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Don't suggest arb3 ROM. He might have installed arb4 ROM before flashing custom ROM

No Word..
SunilSuni said:
Don't suggest arb3 ROM. He might have installed arb4 ROM before flashing custom ROM
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Hey S.S....
It's been a while man... :good:
Of Course You're Correct..
It's been about a month and a half... I think we would have read something by now if there was an issue..
Take Care Man..
My Time With The XRN5 is Almost At An End..

RaiderWill said:
Hey S.S....
It's been a while man... :good:
Of Course You're Correct..
It's been about a month and a half... I think we would have read something by now if there was an issue..
Take Care Man..
My Time With The XRN5 is Almost At An End..
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So which device you are considering to buy now ??
Good to see you too take care well

The Deal Just Finalized..
SunilSuni said:
So which device you are considering to buy now ??
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Hey S.S...
Not 30 Minutes Ago I pulled the trigger on the Samsung Galaxy A70.
It's only about 6mm taller than the XRN5.. but, packs a 6.7 inch SuperAmoled Display that is simply Incredible.
Samsung's OneUI coupled with a Samsung app called Good Lock.. gives you almost endless tweaks without root access.
The Snapdragon 675 / Adreno 512 SoC along with Samsung Pay having NFC and MST capabilities and 6 GB of Ram / 128 GB of Storage sealed the deal..
Honorable Mention To:
The Redmi K20 Pro
The Asus Zen 6
The OnePlus 7
A little more expensive.. faster.. but not as feature rich as the Galaxy A70..
I'll Stay In Touch.. You've Done A Fantastic Job Helping So Many With The XRN5... Keep It Up Boss! :good:

RaiderWill said:
Hey S.S...
Not 30 Minutes Ago I pulled the trigger on the Samsung Galaxy A70.
It's only about 6mm taller than the XRN5.. but, packs a 6.7 inch SuperAmoled Display that is simply Incredible.
Samsung's OneUI coupled with a Samsung app called Good Lock.. gives you almost endless tweaks without root access.
The Snapdragon 675 / Adreno 512 SoC along with Samsung Pay having NFC and MST capabilities and 6 GB of Ram / 128 GB of Storage sealed the deal..
Honorable Mention To:
The Redmi K20 Pro
The Asus Zen 6
The OnePlus 7
A little more expensive.. faster.. but not as feature rich as the Galaxy A70..
I'll Stay In Touch.. You've Done A Fantastic Job Helping So Many With The XRN5... Keep It Up Boss! :good:
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That one is superb mobile... Enjoy well and take care nicely.

SunilSuni said:
That one is superb mobile... Enjoy well and take care nicely.
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As Always... Thank You..
Nice To See 9.0 Pie come to the XRN5 from Xiaomi 's own Towers.. It shows their support for the device.. :good:

RaiderWill said:
As Always... Thank You..
Nice To See 9.0 Pie come to the XRN5 from Xiaomi 's own Towers.. It shows their support for the device.. :good:
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Yeah. Xiaomi finally rolled out Android Pie update with native Dark Mode option.. I hope you will enjoy dark mode option in AMOLED display..
Huge difference between Redmi Note 5 and Samsung A70. Hope you will love all the new features

SunilSuni said:
Yeah. Xiaomi finally rolled out Android Pie update with native Dark Mode option.. I hope you will enjoy dark mode option in AMOLED display..
Huge difference between Redmi Note 5 and Samsung A70. Hope you will love all the new features
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I just seen that Dark Mode has been implemented..
That's cool.. I've always used Xiaomi's Theme Store.. And I LOVE Dark Themes.. but it's nice for those that like to go from light to dark depending on the time of day.
And Yes.. I've so missed Amoled Displays.. I had a Note 4.. and would STILL be using it if I did not Cheap Out and buy a dang $1.00 car charger & cable..
It burned my Note 4 out! That's been almost 3 years ago... So, I can't wait to fire that puppy up for the 1st time and see 6.7 inches of pure black heaven.. :highfive:

RaiderWill said:
Hey S.S....
It's been a while man... :good:
Of Course You're Correct..
It's been about a month and a half... I think we would have read something by now if there was an issue..
Take Care Man..
My Time With The XRN5 is Almost At An End..
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Nothing personally and totally nothing against you, but I'm curious since I never asked that someone, why a new mobile phone after just 1 year? Since I'm used to have a single phone for 2 - 3 years.

Hello..
xell75 said:
Nothing personally and totally nothing against you, but I'm curious since I never asked that someone, why a new mobile phone after just 1 year? Since I'm used to have a single phone for 2 - 3 years.
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Hi There X..
I think.. if you ask 10 different people.. you'd get 10 different answers..
In my case, Having the Note 5 Pro "Rooted-Stock" has been pretty much perfect. 100% Stable & Fast with Nova Prime and Animations at 0.5.. Viper sounds great.. Quickboot works like a charm.. And Greenify rounds out the reasons that I rooted the stock O.S.
So Why Move On From What Seems Like A Perfect Fit?
1st) Samsung SuperAmoled Displays.. ( My New Device Has A 6.7 inch Screen )
2nd) Samsung Pay (NFC / MST Technology Works ANYWHERE a Debit / Credit Card is accepted ) Google Pay.. Not.
3rd) Samsung OneUI ( In conjunction with an app called Good Lock ) provides Endless System Tweaks without root.
4th) Samsung 's AR Emoji's!!! ( Super Fun To Play With! )
5th) Samsung's Bezel- Less Design..( I'm cool with the Infinity U-Notch.. and you can hide it )
6th) I recently purchase a new Camry.. with Scoutlink Technology.. Toyota doesn't acknowledge Xiaomi devices at all... The Salesperson and I Brought a OnePlus 7 Pro out of a T-Mobile store to see if the Camry software would acknowledge the connection.. No Problem it linked to the OnePlus 7 Pro instantly.. as did a $100.00 Samsung J3 Prime device... Toyota Simply Does Not Acknowledge Xiaomi..
Well.. I think that pretty much sums up my thought process..
The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro wins a lot of battle's..
But The Samsung A70 Knows How To Win The War.

RaiderWill said:
Hi There X..
I think.. if you ask 10 different people.. you'd get 10 different answers..
In my case, Having the Note 5 Pro "Rooted-Stock" has been pretty much perfect. 100% Stable & Fast with Nova Prime and Animations at 0.5.. Viper sounds great.. Quickboot works like a charm.. And Greenify rounds out the reasons that I rooted the stock O.S.
So Why Move On From What Seems Like A Perfect Fit?
1st) Samsung SuperAmoled Displays.. ( My New Device Has A 6.7 inch Screen )
2nd) Samsung Pay (NFC / MST Technology Works ANYWHERE a Debit / Credit Card is accepted ) Google Pay.. Not.
3rd) Samsung OneUI ( In conjunction with an app called Good Lock ) provides Endless System Tweaks without root.
4th) Samsung 's AR Emoji's!!! ( Super Fun To Play With! )
5th) Samsung's Bezel- Less Design..( I'm cool with the Infinity U-Notch.. and you can hide it )
6th) I recently purchase a new Camry.. with Scoutlink Technology.. Toyota doesn't acknowledge Xiaomi devices at all... The Salesperson and I Brought a OnePlus 7 Pro out of a T-Mobile store to see if the Camry software would acknowledge the connection.. No Problem it linked to the OnePlus 7 Pro instantly.. as did a $100.00 Samsung J3 Prime device... Toyota Simply Does Not Acknowledge Xiaomi..
Well.. I think that pretty much sums up my thought process..
The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro wins a lot of battle's..
But The Samsung A70 Knows How To Win The War.
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Okay that makes Sense. I'm totally different
1. The 6 Inch Screen is totally okay for me and I prefer IPS LCD More. (Sounds maybe weird, but yeah xD)
2. Never used any of the paying technologies, never used NFC on any phone at all and I not really feel like I need it, I still prefer paying with real money that I can hold in my hand, oldschool, but that's how I am xD
3. I'm really in love with MIUI meanwhile and since the S4 I never used Samsung ever again. But yeah the settings I can manage on MIUI are more than enough for me. (I use my phone unrooted since I not like Magisk and I never unlocked it, all offical still and pure Stock since over 7 months, now on offical MIUI Pie
4. Not really Something I personally need ?
5. Even if you can hide it, I hate all types of Notches and avoid every phone that has it and it doesn't matter for me if it's bezel-less or not, so long the phone fits my needs.
7. Cannot say anything to that, since I don't own a car, I don't even have a Driver license with 29 xD Cause here in Berlin/Germany I not really need it since I get everywhere in Berlin just by bus and train really cheap per month.
So as you see, my Points are totally different and as you maybe see I will take good care of my Redmi Note 5 so long as possible. ? And you take good care of your new phone.