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Should I buy Lenovo Z2 Plus ??

Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here

That are two phones hard to compare.. snapdragon 820 vs 625, 5inch vs 5.5inch etc, fingerprint on front vs on the back etc... how should we know what you need or want?
Both are great..
And for custom roms > how about if you look into the roms, kernels, recovery.. section? Dont be so lazy man

Modder001 said:
Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here
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Warning: Very long story
My purchase of 3Gb variant of Redmi Note 4 was final but could not buy it (everything happens for a good) as delivery was not available by flipkart in my area. I was very sad and finally decided to buy a new, seal packed Redmi Note 3 from ebay at Rs. 9300 (Rs. 10400 was listed price, after applying coupons it became Rs. 9300) as it had performance and recently got franco kernel too (previously available only on Pixels, Nexus and One Plus devices). Finally saw Lenovo Z2 Plus on Snapdeal for Rs. 12000 and immediately purchased it (was hesitant at first reading reviews on Amazon but could not resist SD 820 at this price).
The phone is great, no heating issues and was much better than Redmi Note 3 (Screen quality, camera quality, general performance, looks) when compared side by side as my friend had one. Battery is also good, I get 5-6 hours Screen on time on 4G network with hotspot on and around 7-8 hours SoT on WiFi.
About development, both devices have great roms but Redmi Note 4 has no custom kernel as kernel source codes are not released currently but may or will get them in future when sources are released. Also if you want to be like a trickster and change TV channels of any TV in lobby of any hospital/Hotel, go for Xiaomi phones as they have IR blaster.
The Z2 Plus recently got official Nougat whereas Redmi Note 3 and 4 are still on Marshmallow but that does not matter as you are planning to use a custom rom and all three have 7.1.2 Nougat custom roms.
Conclusion
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
Currently Z2 Plus is available at Rs.13000 at Snapdeal but wait for amazon sale on 11th, previously at an Amazon sale, it was available for 12K and if you get any bank discount (sometimes 10 to 15% off on SBI Card etc during sale), you can get it for 10-11K too.
Go for the black one, it looks very good
Hope this helps
You can also watch reviews and comparison of phones on youtube for better decisions.

hp5942 said:
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
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I am absolutely agree with hp5942's statements. Development for Z2 is only growing, it will be awesome in a few months. Note 3 has one of the best dev support and will have it for a long time. Note 4 is better looking and feeling than Note 3, but it is less speedy device.

I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?

Modder001 said:
I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?
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For long run always go with the phone with more performance.
My friend still has no performance issues with his Mi4 (SD 800, flagship at that time) even after 2.5 years.

if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t

thebiggboss180 said:
if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t
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I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?

Modder001 said:
I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?
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yeah..this phone worth what u paying for.

Why do you guys confuse much. Its good phone for the price. For 13k you are getting snap 820
Its like for the price of audi you getting buggati
Why to get confused. There are minor software hiccups. As you are familiar with xda you can always use custom roms
Hardware wise there are no issues. Build quality is damm solid. I have thrashed my phone many times, but it still survives.
Back glass is lil fragile.

Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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This phone was a worthy buy @18K, it's definitely a steal @12k, but if you can wait, BigBillionDay/GreatIndian sale is around the corner, you might get an even sweeter deal.

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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I bought z2 plus(4,64gb) @ 9.5k from amazon
(Actually 11k - 1.5k cashback)
So wait for any amazon sale
May be buy it on Diwali

For those not used to pimp their phones (unlock bootloader, flash rom etc...), i think Zuk Z2 is not a good choice as the original version is not perfect. But if you like to flash and customize your phone, so yes, 10 times yes,it's a very good phone (have it for almost 1 year and still happy with it).

Question before buying

Hello dear XDA Experts
Which Xiaomi phone shall I buy (in Europe) that will be the most popular Xiaomi device for a long time (people will talk about it and buy it for a long time), have the longest support and have many and many custom roms made even after pulling it off the market and most of all custom rom Devs will love it?
Any answer is welcome to help!
BTW Do these devices met the above criteria? (Redmi Note 5 (Pro or non Pro, remember Europe), Pocophone F1, Redmi Note 6 (if it is available in Europe))

Go for Redmi Note 5 AI

SkuLL. said:
Go for Redmi Note 5 AI
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Thanks for replying. Which model do You mean by adding "AI"? Is it's codname "whyred"?

androidbadboy said:
Thanks for replying. Which model do You mean by adding "AI"? Is it's codname "whyred"?
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Correct.

SkuLL. said:
Correct.
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Thanks again.
How about POCO or M2 Lite ( which has the same specs as whyred)?
PLEASE tell me what YOU think of these two phones?

androidbadboy said:
Thanks again.
How about POCO or M2 Lite ( which has the same specs as whyred)?
PLEASE tell me what YOU think of these two phones?
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POCO SD845
Note 5 AI (whyred) SD636
MI A2 Lite SD625
The best phone is POCO by far because of the processor, but im not sure about the rom development and stuff. Whyred has alot of custom and miui based roms to play with.
If you prefer pure stock android MI A2 or lite is the phone for you.

SkuLL. said:
POCO SD845
Note 5 AI (whyred) SD636
MI A2 Lite SD625
The best phone is POCO by far because of the processor, but im not sure about the rom development and stuff. Whyred has alot of custom and miui based roms to play with.
If you prefer pure stock android MI A2 or lite is the phone for you.
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I love MIUI but If any kind of Xiaomi phone with pure Android would have best dev support, best roms, much mor roms than I want to get that phone.
I forgot to mention that I hunt for from low to mid budget phones. POCO can be bought by me i it turns out that he wins my criterua,

I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!
1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)
2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..
3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc
furthermore
4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...
now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !
A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER
B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and
C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....
D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!
so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device
the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?
the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?

YasuHamed said:
I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!
1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)
2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..
3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc
furthermore
4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...
now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !
A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER
B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and
C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....
D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!
so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device
the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?
the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?
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1. Keyboard: many others are the same
2. No call problem so far
3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone
4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy
The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life

Zanr Zij said:
1. Keyboard: many others are the same
2. No call problem so far
3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone
4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy
The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life
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1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler
2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny
3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect
4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands
since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!

YasuHamed said:
1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler
2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny
3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect
4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands
since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!
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1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.
2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.
3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality
4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.
You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product

Zanr Zij said:
1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.
2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.
3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality
4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.
You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product
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1. to give him fair picture I honestly thought its worth mentioning since i haven't found any other modern days rom having switch keyboard panel NOT part of navbar accept in MIUI
2. its covered in 1 only.
3. gcam on miui doesn't work fully only sept2016 version ran (and didnt crash)
4 again, if by any chance the phone is bricked, i cannot press both volume and power keys to enter in EDL mode (like in Redmi3s)
you asked for good phone with nice battery , so i mentioned Nokia 8, and yes sorry about sd845, its sd835 with 6gbram and 5.3"screen with hardkeys, so u are getting full 5.3" to work with. THe bezels aren't that much they way you have metioned
by the way @androidbadboy Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!

by the way @androidbadboy Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!
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Thank You @YasuHamed for replying and giving us important information!
Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.
How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?
Please help!

androidbadboy said:
Thank You @YasuHamed for replying and giving us important information!
Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.
How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?
Please help!
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sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.
3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu
workaround
the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.

YasuHamed said:
sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.
3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu
workaround
the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.
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In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.
Is this a properly working 3D touch?

If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.
Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.

androidbadboy said:
In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.
Is this a properly working 3D touch?
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yes , on sony/pixel etc you get many options
but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)

fadgry said:
If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.
Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.
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Thank You for all Your help.
I gotta say You kept me thinking.
Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.
I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.
Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.
BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.
I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.
As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.
Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.

YasuHamed said:
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yes , on sony/pixel etc you get many options
but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)
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yes means that 3D touch in S8 gets me only 2 types of things (remove icon or uninstall)?
What happens if on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / pro I touch and hold an icon just like in S8 I wrote before?

androidbadboy said:
Thank You for all Your help.
I gotta say You kept me thinking.
Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.
I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.
Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.
BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.
I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.
As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.
Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.
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I know it is a huge cash difference since I personally buy RN5 instead of Poco haha. But yeah people really looking for Poco here and they will pay another 150 USD for it.
What about RN5? After 2 weeks using it I don't face any problem. People said they got a or b or c problems, and I would confuse as I didn't get it. Since I'm a hard gamer too, it is crucial to look for performance and it is satisfying.
Both phone are good and has really active forums, it is your choice after all to buy the phone. Hope you get the best which suits your need.

Custom ROM

Why A50 has still no custom ROM although this devise is very popular, and redmi not 7 pro has all major custom ROM

Considering we can run the gsi Rom of android 9 and 10 I'm hopeful.
Just wondering if anyone is working on it tbh.

yatin panchal said:
Why A50 has still no custom ROM although this devise is very popular, and redmi not 7 pro has all major custom ROM
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You might have to wait till everyone is bored of one ui (which i doubt anyone will be bored of).

therealroyston2 said:
No one wants to trip knox yet. You might have to wait till everyone is bored of one ui (which i doubt anyone will be bored of).
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Can't you trip Knox by rooting and installing twrp?
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AjayL13601 said:
Can't you trip Knox by rooting and installing twrp?
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Ah, no you can't I just checked.

You're comparing a phone which you can unlock officially and one that you can't. Are you serious?

madd0g said:
You're comparing a phone which you can unlock officially and one that you can't. Are you serious?
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Who dares bring logic to this thread, how dare you.

You Just Answered Your Own Question..
yatin panchal said:
Why A50 has still no custom ROM although this devise is very popular, and redmi not 7 pro has all major custom ROM
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The Answer To Your Question Is Simple..
You Bought The Wrong Phone. :angel:
Should Have Done Your Research...
Just Sell Your 50 And Get A Redmi.
I Own This Device For 3 Reasons:
1) Samsung Pay
2) With Xfinity's $250.00 Rebate.. It Cost Me $135.00.. Including Tax.
3) Xfinity's Unlimited Data Is Less Than $50.00 A Month.. And Uses Verizon's Towers.

RaiderWill said:
I Own This Device For 3 Reasons:
1) Samsung Pay
2) With Xfinity's $250.00 Rebate.. It Cost Me $135.00.. Including Tax.
3) Xfinity's Unlimited Data Is Less Than $50.00 A Month.. And Uses Verizon's Towers.
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You are perfectly right. Everyone has his own reason - as A50 is nothing special.
Mine is: I turned back to Samsung phone as my Galaxy Watch ( which I like ) works best with Samsung phones.

Special.. Well, Maybe..
pabgar said:
You are perfectly right. Everyone has his own reason - as A50 is nothing special..
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"Special" is Subjective...
What you get for the price... Simply Cannot Be Beat..
Especially if you are in a Region that takes advanage of Samsung Pay.. Encrypted.. Secure Transactions..
Everytime.
And the Battery Life ( at least for me ) is SPECTACULAR..
I had a Redmi Note 5 Pro... Rooting = Issues..
And... Having Issues Gets Old..... Fast.
I'm grateful I've learned to live without that headache... And value 100% Stability ( And Samsung Pay ) above all else.
For Me.. The 50 is Special... 90% of an S10+'s Feature Set..... 33% ( Or Even Less.. ) of it's cost. :angel:

RaiderWill said:
And the Battery Life ( at least for me ) is SPECTACULAR..
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Try Lenovo P2 ( which I still have ). 4-6 days of usage compared to 2 day usage with A50. This is spectacular.
I left Lenovo P2 for 2 reasons: cooperation with Galaxy Watch, camera below average
I am going to move to Galaxy M30s. Same Exynos as A50, 6000mAh battery and forget about crappy underscreen FP. Samsung pay does not work in Poland so I do not care about it.
P.S. And you are right. It is all subjective

Cough Cough.... I'm on the A50 (FN) and I have a custom ROM installed soooo

On my previous devices i was building roms.
But i really enjoy Samsung rom, once debloated i must say, it's feature rich and very stable. And monthly updates. So for now i see no reason for custom rom.
+ Samsung is very specific, and it is not an easy thing, need to be an very experimented dev to bring the first custom rom (vendor, kernel, device trees and a fully working twrp) .
So ( risks + bugs ) VS ( Feature rich and monthly updated samsung rom ) = Samsung rom win.

pabgar said:
Try Lenovo P2 ( which I still have ). 4-6 days of usage compared to 2 day usage with A50. This is spectacular.
I left Lenovo P2 for 2 reasons: cooperation with Galaxy Watch, camera below average
I am going to move to Galaxy M30s. Same Exynos as A50, 6000mAh battery and forget about crappy underscreen FP. Samsung pay does not work in Poland so I do not care about it.
P.S. And you are right. It is all subjective
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Now... For Me, The Fingerprint Sensor After The Update Works PERFECT.
I have my own way of setting up 2 fingers ( 1 on each hand ) and , I have no issues.. if the Facial Recognition doesn't grab it first.. it works without fail.
I'm not going to waste space posting another thread about how to setup your FPS... but you can make it work really well.
Great if you are not loosing money switching from one device to another...
For Me... here in the United States of America.. you can get a $250.00 rebate on this device which cost $385.00 out the door...
That's a $135.00 U.S.D. cost for me............. WITH SAMSUNG PAY
My Carrier is trying to get me to move up to the Note 10+.... $1,235.00 out the door!
No Thank You... The $135.00 I paid works just fine for me.. Geez... It's Just A Cell Phone!

yatin panchal said:
Why A50 has still no custom ROM although this devise is very popular, and redmi not 7 pro has all major custom ROM
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You have gsi flashing

muhamet said:
You have gsi flashing
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Yeah but we really need custom kernels

is redmi note 9 worth buying in 2022/3/x?

Hello, is redmi note 9 good to buy in 2022 I am currently thinking of buying 3 devices redmi 9 redmi note 8 redmi note 9 And the best performance among them, according to the extensive search between them, is the redmi note 9, but when I search for a long time, I see that members face many problems such as slow and when I enable Lte, it returns to e and when I buy the phone I immediately think of updating it to android 12 and also you cannot change your phone system without Happening problem I also tried to make a comparison between the phone and the newer versions but I don't like amoled screens because the newer versions of xiaomi are all amoled I hate AMOLED screens because when something simple is broken, such as accidentally dropping the screen from the hand, it gets a complete break of the screen and the requirements for changing the screen are very expensive and I always drop my phone Huawei y6 prime 2018 with an IPS screen and I think IPS screens are the best for me For me, other than this, to enter the redmi note 11 into the qualifiers and it was the winner

Ya Sure, IT works pretty Well With lineageos 19+a12

Definitely no. The MediaTek in this phone is straight garbage and you will feel so embarrassed in front of everyone when you will get a random crash or freeze.

Mineplayerminer said:
Definitely no. The MediaTek in this phone is straight garbage and you will feel so embarrassed in front of everyone when you will get a random crash or freeze.
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I love MediaTek.

VD171 said:
I love MediaTek.
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Well, if you like suffering with this crap, then okay....

Also, this phone is already sold out and reached its EOL support. I can tell you that when I dropped this phone twice and I already have a black bar going through the LCD panel itself. AMOLED is much better if you have a nice and thick glass.

Mineplayerminer said:
Well, if you like suffering with this crap, then okay....
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No, I don't like crap things, because I don't like you.
But, I love MediaTek alot

Obviously, the answer to the thread is: no.
Just buy any most recent Redmi Note x/y/z.
There is nothing to discuss here.

Question Oneplus 9 pro worth it

Is the oneplus 9 pro any good as was going to buy one and they have told me to go buy a Samsung or pixel phone instead as they are cheap Chinese phones same as oppos so not sure if to buy or not any advice would be great please if to buy or not

I moved from Samsung to OP this year. OP 9 Pro and love it.

Someone told me on a telegram group that they are cheap Chinese phones I have galaxy s10 lite at minute need upgrade but not sure what

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I moved from Samsung to OP this year. OP 9 Pro and love it.
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I got tired of waiting for Samsung not allowing bootloader to be unlocked. I like custom fonts systemwide and custom bootanimation.

Hi, Here's recent similar thread comments:
Also the 9 Pro is an overall great device for my usage...
One plus 9 pro worth buying ?
Looking at upgrading and was wondering if it's worth buying a oneplus 9 Pro what is battery life like how long it last
forum.xda-developers.com

Was looking at custom roms for oneplus 9 pro but it looks confusing wouldn't no where to start

The only flagship Samsung I would reccomend is the N10+ Snapdragon if you can live without a variable refresh rate display and 5G. These features have caused many problems since their implementation including outright hardware failures.
The OP phones are a viable alternative if you want a newer flagship. None of the new Samsung flagships have expandable storage and suffer from poor design balance. You may want to wait 6-8 months and see what comes next if you can. Waiting costs you nothing. It gives you more and better user input of existing models.

I was looking at s22 plus but not really sure but oneplus 9 pro was the phone I was going to get until I got told don't buy it

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I was looking at s22 plus but not really sure but oneplus 9 pro was the phone I was going to get until I got told don't buy it
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I left a Galaxy Note 10 for this OP 9 Pro and have not had any regrets....staying on stock OOS11, tried the 12 and didn't like it for the bugs and downgraded back to eleven.

Jason6416 said:
I was looking at s22 plus but not really sure but oneplus 9 pro was the phone I was going to get until I got told don't buy it
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The 9 pro is a great phone. Lots of customization, the screen is really nice, and the camera is awesome too. IDK if you're into rooting and custom roms but there's a ton of options with that too (which you can't really get on Samsung phones.) To say that these are just cheap Chinese phones just isn't true.

Someone told me that the phone was constantly rebooting itself so that's why they told me not to go with it as they said software is not good I have a s10 lite at minute and need a new phone

MudaTrucka said:
The 9 pro is a great phone. Lots of customization, the screen is really nice, and the camera is awesome too. IDK if you're into rooting and custom roms but there's a ton of options with that too (which you can't really get on Samsung phones.) To say that these are just cheap Chinese phones just isn't true.
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I've looked at the custon roms but they seem a little complicated not too sure I have a laptop to do it but not sure if I would

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I've looked at the custon roms but they seem a little complicated not too sure I have a laptop to do it but not sure if I would
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It isn't a necessity to use custom roms, you can make similar modifications to the stock rom. If you read the instructions very carefully not much can go wrong, and if something does you're almost always able to recover it with msmtool

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Someone told me that the phone was constantly rebooting itself so that's why they told me not to go with it as they said software is not good I have a s10 lite at minute and need a new phone
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Aw, go for it....

Jason6416 said:
Someone told me that the phone was constantly rebooting itself so that's why they told me not to go with it as they said software is not good I have a s10 lite at minute and need a new phone
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That was one person, no telling if the constant rebooting was due to something he did....hummm

So will I notice a difference to what I'm using now ( samsung s10 lite ) just don't want to make bad choice

What do you want from a phone????? Features etc!!!

Just something for social media and general Internet

Then go for the OP 9 Pro.....good choice...my wife uses the FitBit sense watch connected to her phone OP9P....

TheGhost1951 said:
Then go for the OP 9 Pro.....good choice...my wife uses the FitBit sense watch connected to her phone OP9P....
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How long you have op9pro is battery life good