This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
MIL-STD-810G Method 516.6, Procedure IV “Transit Drop”)Shock Resistant
Compliant with a military standards test (MIL-STD-810G Method 516.6, Procedure IV “Transit Drop”). Device may not perform as tested in all conditions. Test performed in controlled environment. Do not attempt.
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But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.
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Hey ######!
Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, we have no plans to support the LG G8 ThinQ, as there is simply not enough demand to justify adding it to our portfolio at this time. Sorry about that. Let us know if there is anything else we can help with, and have a great day!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EDYQG6Q7JY
i found this to be a good review of the BodyGuardz Pure Arc Curved Tempered Glass Screen Protector for the G8 ThinQ
i thought it was a shill channel looking at other reviews, but he seems to hate this. it fits GREAT, but only has adhesives on the sides and has a visible dot matrix.
on top of that, he says there is an unnatural hollow feel to it due to the adhesive not being full screen. i imagine this will negatively affect the oled speaker.
this is a $50 screen protector that AT&T is giving away as a part of a promotion.
skins... not much out there and only dbrand has responded (with a NEVER).
the Invisible Phone Guard screen protector was OK and visibility was good, but i found the sound to be very slightly muffled as if it is dampening a certain high frequency.
i'm keeping the back on until i find a decent skin.
this film seems like it will blemish easily. it certainly gets dirty easily. pics here...
Having this phone for a few days now and the OP was not lying about how slippery this phone is. A case or skin is a definite must have!
Ordered a Ringke Fusion X.
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I ordered this case - https://www.ebay.com/itm/273759783563 - I should be getting it later today, I'll post about how well it works.
No sooner did I post this than it came in the mail. Fits on easy, stays on snugly. It's matte rubber without feeling like you're holding a car tire. I had one for my Nexus 6P I really liked and this feels equally good.
This thing is indeed incredibly slippery. I think I'm just going to be extra careful about where I put it down (it's not too slippery in my hands I find, just on certain surfaces), I hate hiding the slick design of the phone with a case. This is also the first phone I've had in a very long time where the camera doesn't bulge out the back, which I really appreciate and don't want to diminish with a case.
doblebo said:
This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.
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Well there are a number of skins now at the varies skin sites though I personally skipped them and simply put the phone into an Otterbox Defender case.
I used a cheap curved glass screen protector ( was like $9) and some loca glue (like $10) to make a DIY full adhesive whitestone kit.
hey everyone - just got my lg g8 a few days ago. i got my case and glass screen protector yesterday. in my head i feel like maybe the screen protector is 'muting' the sound from the screen. has anyone else noticed this, or is it just in my head?
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hey everyone - just got my lg g8 a few days ago. i got my case and glass screen protector yesterday. in my head i feel like maybe the screen protector is 'muting' the sound from the screen. has anyone else noticed this, or is it just in my head?
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I have not had that issue and I am using a Supershieldz screen protector however my brother who is using an Iphone 7 recently had that issue with one due to a screen protector he picked up at Walmart though it resolved once he removed it.
It's amazing to watch this phone slowly creep off of my wireless charger, which has a rubbery grippy surface! My case arrives today...
I'm using slickwraps for the back of my phone and I like it. I would say they are slightly less precise than dbrand, but still great quality. If people would like photos, please let me know.
I'm using a Nillkin slim case, adds no bulk and provides some grippiness.
I also have a Spigen Crystal Clear gel case that's very nice, but is more bulky than the Nillkin.
As for screen protectors, i've found that glass ones are useless for this phone. I tried a couple full adhesive brands with the idea that i would fill the little gap on the edges with LOCA but of the 6 protectors that i applied, they all had a problem sticking fully in some flat areas of the screen. It was always the exact same spots so I came to the conclusion that the LG screen itself isn't 100% flat in those areas so I settled on the Ringke Dual Easy Film screen protector.
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Weston
You may want to think about giving the Skinomi Full Body Skin a try. It definitely keeps my phone from slipping off of surfaces, giving the phone a bit of a plastic-rubber feel while still letting the beauty of the phone show through. The back protector doesn't interfere with any cases and offers a bit of mental relief for those times you want to carry your phone without a case.
Dude, I had my g8 for 2 days. Was in. The washroom and the phone was on a roll of toilet paper (the flat side, obviously haha) and got a notification. Before I knew it the phone slid off and landed on the bottom right corner, heard an alarming "tink" sound but didn't think anything of it. A few mins later I saw a small crack, then I looked again and realized that there were multiple cracks on the screen. Ended up getting it replaced by my carrier, I said it was damaged in shipping. Point is that this phone is a glass cannon: it's very powerful for specs but it will have a broken screen if you sneeze on it the wrong way. This is one of the massive downsides to the new gorilla glass. Sure it's scratch resistant but with the wrong amount of pressure it will get destroyed :/
doblebo said:
This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.
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I've dropped this thing so many times because it's so slippery. Seems like every other week I hear it jump off a table a few minutes after I leave the room.
I have a crack on 3 corners, but nothing across the screen. My case (which I tend to take off when connecting it to things such as controllers or some USB cables) almost hides the cracks.
However, these are more like small missing chunks of glass on the corners. I've never had such a fragile phone. I tried super glue on the corners to keep it from spreading, but eventually just went to town on the corners with silicone conformal coating that I had sitting around. It seems to be working great and keeps the little shards coated and sort of glued in there. I kind of prefer this to replacing the screen as replacements have only gone down slightly to around $150 shipped from China and I know I'll just end up breaking that one.
There's always been one or two deal breakers with all of my LG phones and that's why I kept going to a different manufacturer as soon as I could. I hate to say it but after this, I'm never going back to LG again no matter what cool unique feature they're wooing me with.
I basically used this phone with a broken screen for 5 months. Replacements are still $150 (better than $200 back when it broke). It dropped approximately 1.5ft face down onto a clay tile floor and front screen has cracks all over. It almost looks somewhat inverted now as if the screen was designed to have tension. Well I went and got a note 10+ and man it is great to have a real phone again. Doesn't have some of the edgy LG stuff that I really loved and theres no headphone jack... but bigger/brighter screen that isn't broken is so nice to have. Good luck with your screens guys.... I'll replace mine when the price is reasonable and either go back to using it or put it on ebay.
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I'm using a Nillkin slim case, adds no bulk and provides some grippiness.
I also have a Spigen Crystal Clear gel case that's very nice, but is more bulky than the Nillkin.
As for screen protectors, i've found that glass ones are useless for this phone. I tried a couple full adhesive brands with the idea that i would fill the little gap on the edges with LOCA but of the 6 protectors that i applied, they all had a problem sticking fully in some flat areas of the screen. It was always the exact same spots so I came to the conclusion that the LG screen itself isn't 100% flat in those areas so I settled on the Ringke Dual Easy Film screen protector.
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I have reached the same conclusion about the screen not being flat enough to utilize a hard glass protector even if you avoid the very curved edge portions. I tried the curved, glued only on the edge types first but that always had a weird optical effect and wasn't very ruggedly glued on, none in the middle. Why? I haven't tried using whitestone glue yet.
So the suggested one sounds interesting. https://www.amazon.com/Ringke-Compa...dge-Application/dp/B07NHMBNLH#customerReviews
I think I'll watch the videos first.
I also found these but yes a firm, solid piece of glass is a no go IMHO. Not a fan of these new case designs for all the new phones. Why de do dat?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QQD2BCG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_MkrHDb48GTKZN
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QB9MN28/
Still hoping for a solution. I had great luck with Spigen Crystal screen protector SGP10855 for my LG G3 which is hard but I believe would be flexible enough if it skipped the curved edges but they don't make anything like that?
UPDATE: After watching the LG G8 video on YouTube I decided to go with the Rinke.
I'll report back. This will be 4th type attempted.
I put it on this morning. It is pretty easy to get this on with good alignment and no bubbles.
Two things.
1. If you watch the YouTube instructions the place where the dust dust cleaning sticky backing splits in half does leave a slightly perceptable crease in the soft protector. Maybe it will smooth out with time? It did not with the squeegee.
2. It's soft so you can possibly nick with your fingernails and it's also easy to lift an edge ever so slightly during final finishing so be careful.
I see no installation flaws but it also isn't a hard glass but then those do not install properly even when undersized because the screen is not level as you get near the edges as far as 1/4" away. The film eliminates this issue but will it protect and stay on.
We shall see.
I sell a lot of these devices and it is even hard to photograph them on a smooth surface because they will start around on my table. Put it in a case, the screens are expensive.
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Hello All,
I know that I want a PET or other glass-like screen protector. Generally speaking, I never used screen protectors because they never really held up all that well and on top of that they never had the feel or look of the real thing. Now I have a scratch on my screen that is not normally visible, but I know its there.
I have run into a debacle because I know that while I am good at putting on screen protectors, I am no expert and the PET ones are harder to get perfect than the rubbery ones (which I now despise). So, recently I have seen that there are some PET/Silicone/ Electrostaic Hybrid screen protetctors and then there are still the PET with Adhesive.
Does anyone have experience with the electrostatic type and how good are they at staying on and bubbles?
I have no idea what is PET, or the different types. However, if you are talking about the one I got:
http://www.handhelditems.com/crystal-clear-screen-protector-p-135710.html
my experience is that this has great clarity, can get bubbles during applications, and they rarely come off by itself. On the many devices I've used this type of protector on, only one came off. It started in one corner, and over the course of a month with gradual lint build up the screen protector eventually got ruined. I could've washed it and reapplied for that month, but I had a spare so I was lazy. You can reapply the protectors as needed to get the application right. The bubbles that occur aren't the same as the rubbery kind. Air bubbles can easily be pushed out after application. The problem is dust that prevent the protector from adhering to screen, causing a little bubble. If the dust is really small, the bubble goes away over a day. Or, like me, you can live with it. You try getting something the size of an iPad dust free.
Bought Electrostatic - LOVE THESE!
Ok, as a preface I have owned and used screen protectors before.
I had an iPhone before the EVO and used the Griffin Ultraclear hard Protetctors ad the PowerSupportUSA products of every variety on my previous iPod products (iPod Mini 1G, 4G, Nano 1G, 5G, Shuffle 1G, Touch, iPhone) not to mention an invisible shield one or two. I gave up on the films towards the end of my Touch ownership. They always felt horrible and I could never get one absolutely perfect (didn't help that they usually were not perfectly cut).
For the Evo, I tried the InvisibleShield the first day because I remembered just how well the InvisibileShield had held up on my 5G. Well I think that they have changed the formula, or rather that 3M has since then because the smooth feel and smooth look of the original are most definitely gone. The new variety is rubbery (even after days of use) and is not cut well enough to be a perfect fit (it never covered edge to edge). So i skipped it. Well it seems that with this large of a glass screen, you are much more liable to getting scratches (versus using and unprotetcted iPhone/Touch screen) and I got a few ultra hairline ones that are barely if ever visible to the naked eye and just knowing that they are there bothered me. So I needed to think of getting a screen protector.
Seeing as how air moves and its nearly impossible to get a screen protectors on without any bit of dust, I decided on getting the electrostatic variety so that I could rinse if it came off or needed to be reapplied.
I bought These: Electrostatic Screen Protector - Clear Hard
- Hard variety (PET)
- Very Clear
- Silicone Layer (helps the scratches and dents heal themselves and give sturdiness to the PET)
- Electrostatic layer (holds the screen protector onto the phone)
Six pack delivered for $4? I could do much worse.
Well as it turns out, they are PERFECTLY cut and cover every inch of screen and no more. It went on smooth as butter and I got no bubbles or dust or fingerprints or anything (used a credit card to smooth it down). These were by far the easiest I have had. Not only that, but the electrostatic holds on just as strong as the sticky variety and will not get the gunk on the sides sticking to it! I have taken my TPU case on and off a bunch and had no lift whatsoever. As a bonus, THEY SHOW FINGERPRINTS MUCH LESS THAN THE GLASS SCREEN DOES!
So at $0.65 each, they are killer and having a few backups is nice as well as giving one to a friend.
Cheers!
Thanks for that post. I'm expecting my EVOs (I ordered 2) in within the next week. I've been trying hard to find cases and screen protectors without much luck, but I'm going to go ahead and order those screen protectors you mentioned since you recommend them.
Yep i ordered the same ones and love them. i have loved these from the start. they are quite easy to put on and stay on well.
Scotch tape is your friend in getting screen protectors on without a bit of dust
Childofthehorn said:
Hello All,
I know that I want a PET or other glass-like screen protector. Generally speaking, I never used screen protectors because they never really held up all that well and on top of that they never had the feel or look of the real thing. Now I have a scratch on my screen that is not normally visible, but I know its there.
I have run into a debacle because I know that while I am good at putting on screen protectors, I am no expert and the PET ones are harder to get perfect than the rubbery ones (which I now despise). So, recently I have seen that there are some PET/Silicone/ Electrostaic Hybrid screen protetctors and then there are still the PET with Adhesive.
Does anyone have experience with the electrostatic type and how good are they at staying on and bubbles?
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I have a steinheil ultra crystal protector on my EVO, and its static. As long as you make sure there is no debris under it, it will stay on for a long time with no lifting. I have shown my phone to quite a few people, and not one of them can tell I have a screen protector on it. Even when I point it out to them, they still cant see it. It's very thin and I applied it perfectly so their a no bubbles. Took me about 30 minutes to get it perfect. If you use a piece of scotch tape to pick up debris under it, that works pretty good. This biggest thing is to make sure your edges are perfectly clean. Even the slightest bit of debris under one of the edges of the screen protector, and it wont be long before it starts peeling. I'm very satisfied with my steinheil. Going on 5 weeks now and it looks flawless. Id take a picture but you wouldnt be able to see it anyways. I thought it was a scam spending $13 on a screen protector! I used to order them from china for 50 cents. well, never doing that again! I've only ever used 1 adhesive type screen protector, and it was terrible. the clarity was awful.
OneStepAhead said:
I have a steinheil ultra crystal protector on my EVO, and its static. As long as you make sure there is no debris under it, it will stay on for a long time with no lifting. I have shown my phone to quite a few people, and not one of them can tell I have a screen protector on it. Even when I point it out to them, they still cant see it. It's very thin and I applied it perfectly so their a no bubbles. Took me about 30 minutes to get it perfect. If you use a piece of scotch tape to pick up debris under it, that works pretty good. This biggest thing is to make sure your edges are perfectly clean. Even the slightest bit of debris under one of the edges of the screen protector, and it wont be long before it starts peeling. I'm very satisfied with my steinheil. Going on 5 weeks now and it looks flawless. Id take a picture but you wouldnt be able to see it anyways. I thought it was a scam spending $13 on a screen protector! I used to order them from china for 50 cents. well, never doing that again! I've only ever used 1 adhesive type screen protector, and it was terrible. the clarity was awful.
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Have not seen these yet. where did you get yours and do you know if they offer an anti-glare
xlrdxrevengex said:
Have not seen these yet. where did you get yours and do you know if they offer an anti-glare
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Their anti-fingerprint screen protector is also anti-glare per the product description on their website.
http://www.sgpstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_33/products_id/1463
remedy22 said:
Their anti-fingerprint screen protector is also anti-glare per the product description on their website.
http://www.sgpstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_33/products_id/1463
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thanks for the link. Can anyone find this brand cheaper
xlrdxrevengex said:
thanks for the link. Can anyone find this brand cheaper
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I don't think so.
But these are $13 well spent. Believe me.
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I cannot stand the installation procedure needed for the screen protectors. Every single time: I use the "provided micro fiber" cloth to remove dirt and lint and the apply. EVERY TIME I am left with tiny lint,, micro specs of air dust etc. between the film and the screen, and a small little bubble here and there. It drives me crazy. Call me obsessive compulsive but it take me about 3 screen protectors until I finally get it right. Anyone aware of any screen protection technology that will help me avoid this outcome?
I don't, but I did read that if you apply it in the bathroom after running hot water and steaming it up real good that it will help that problem a lot. I plan to try that when I get my first screen protector this week.
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Hard type screen protectors will solve your bubble issues. Martin Fields screen protectors is pretty much impossible to have bubbles stuck inside it.
However it won't solve your dust problem. If anything, it's much easier to see dirt and other imperfections stuck between the screen and a Martin Field protector.
Or you could try one of the crystal screen protectors from boxwave. I had your problem too with my first 2 screen protectors, and it seemed that I couldn't just get them on there without a problem. With this one from boxwave, I just wiped it off with the provided micro-fiber cloth and used the bubble-elimination card to remove any possible bubbles under the screen!
http://www.boxwave.com/
Get the ones from ATT. I have tried Bodyguardz, Zagg, Stealth Guards, and some generic BS from eBay. All of those were the type you apply with the solution (and have that dreaded orange peel look) and you have to wait for it to "cure" and it is extremely easy to get bubbles stuck in them.
The ones from ATT on the other hand, are completely smooth and truly invisible. They are a stiffer material and you do not need application solution. I am very happy with them and for 9.99 you get 3 of them. If you mess one up by getting some lint on it or whatever, you can just wash it with soapy water and spray it down with some water+baby soap and re apply it that way. Very easy to get the air bubbles out that are caused by using the solution. Again, they can be installed with no solution at all and if done carefully, it should look like nothing was ever installed on the phone
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...038&q_sku=sku4770252&q_manufacturer=&q_model=
I got them from a local store for 7$ since I got a discount. Those above ^^ from BoxWave seem extremely over priced. For 10$ you can't go wrong with the ones from ATT.
I am using clarivue not even a single dust, lint, inside. It's the quick and easy 3 layer type screen protectors.
Here's a tip ... go to the bathroom and turn on hot water on sink or whatever to create humidity that would trap the dust or w/e in the air ... and it makes this easier to apply.
I haven't had a screen protector on my Vibrant in almost 2 months now & even with constantly putting it in my pocket with my keys, dropping it once onto my driveway & even fumbling it into bouncing off a brick wall one time I have yet to scratch my screen. The rest of the phone is dented & scratched but the screen is still beautiful.
Siks said:
I haven't had a screen protector on my Vibrant in almost 2 months now & even with constantly putting it in my pocket with my keys, dropping it once onto my driveway & even fumbling it into bouncing off a brick wall one time I have yet to scratch my screen. The rest of the phone is dented & scratched but the screen is still beautiful.
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I had my iPod Touch for years, in and out of pockets with keys and pocket-knives and cell phones, dropped countless times, two little kids messing with it all the time, accidentally sliding it face-down across surfaces, and so on. Never used a screen protector, never got a single blemish or scratch. And that was basically plain old arsenic-free glass. The Captivate is made with Corning's high-tech Gorilla Glass.
Sure, either could still scratch or break. But it's like getting a car with an expensive paintjob, and then covering the whole thing in Scotch tape so it won't get scratched. You end up with something that looks god-awful 100% of the time, because you're afraid something might happen to it that would affect how it looks. Pretty much any time someone hands me their smartphone or DS, it is a scratched, smudgy, dusty mess because of some $40 screen cover they have on there. I always try to point out that it seems odd to make your screen look terrible on purpose just because you're afraid of you might make it look terrible on accident. I used one good one once, that you couldn't even tell was there, but the first time I took it on a flight it turned into smears of rainbows.
use a piece of clear packing tape to remove the dust. running the shower helps bring dust down but there will be some lint from the cloth. dont lean over it, a lot of "dust" is dry dead skin or dandruff so if you have dry skin or dry scalp dust will fall on it. also stop being so anal.
Siks said:
I haven't had a screen protector on my Vibrant in almost 2 months now & even with constantly putting it in my pocket with my keys, dropping it once onto my driveway & even fumbling it into bouncing off a brick wall one time I have yet to scratch my screen. The rest of the phone is dented & scratched but the screen is still beautiful.
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I don't need no stinkin' screen protector. I mean unless I know my phone is going to be dragged across macadam but then a screen protector won't help, will it.
Gorilla Glass... Screen Protector unnecessary... I have always used a screen protector too on previous phones but the screen on this phone is rugged.
I used to be the same way as you guys, "I don't need a screen protector because it's been through everything and still works perfectly!!" Yet, one day I found a scratch on my screen that I have no idea whatsoever where it came from. So, I got this Boxwave ClearTouch Crystal screen protector, and you literally cannot tell it is on there. It feels just like the glass (con for me actually, I prefer a paper kind of feel) and doesn't scratch easily at all. Plus, I installed it in a dusty room and there was no lint or anything else under the screen. It even comes with a thick card to remove bubbles once it has been applied. So, if you're even slighty, .000001% scared of getting lint trapped underneath the screen, go with Boxwave. I vouch for its clarity and ease of installation. Also, my screen is just as sensitive as before, as I've tried BARELY touching the screen and it still would pick up a touch.
And, in the rare event that you did get dust glued to the screen, it is completely washable and rewashable, so it is a little expensive, but well, well worth it.
Oh, and there is no adhesive whatsoever, not even water is needed. Just peel and go.
magnumrt562 said:
Gorilla Glass... Screen Protector unnecessary... I have always used a screen protector too on previous phones but the screen on this phone is rugged.
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i listened to this
totally terrible advice. not that i care but i have about 20 microscratches and a couple decent sized ones....
it takes time to learn how to put screen protectors on... I have probably put 500 or so on all different types of phones you just wipe it clean tilt it so that you can make sure there are no dust particles... then you pull the backing off of the protector a few inches apply to the designated area and take a credit card and follow the rest of the protector down... works everytime
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i listened to this
totally terrible advice. not that i care but i have about 20 microscratches and a couple decent sized ones....
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I second this . there is no such thing as 'unscratchable glass' some very expensive sunglasses use to have that warranty , guess what , they dont anymore ...
although I have to say the argument about HAVING YOUR PHONE LOOK UGLY JUST IN CASE SOME ACCIDENT CAN HAPPEN TO MAKE UGLY made me laugh , I d never have a phone without one my advice :
Just buy a few cheap ones on eBay and master the trick when your bored , after 3 times it should be installed perfectly , I also noticed if you have light scratches already on it , the screen protector hides them so thats a bonus
Ive tried SO many screen protectors. The only one I have been happy with so far (and VERY happy at that) is Realook. They are SUPER clear, thin, and very hard. You do not lose the glassy feel or the crisp vivid look on the screen. Ive put them on a few phones now, a few Vibrants and a Mytouch Slide 3g (my gf didnt even know i had put it on there till i told her). Its $10 for 2 protectors and I HIGHLY recommend them.
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/REALOOK-AT-T-Samsung-Captivate-AFP-Screen-Protector-2PK-/250674134359
Siks said:
I haven't had a screen protector on my Vibrant in almost 2 months now & even with constantly putting it in my pocket with my keys, dropping it once onto my driveway & even fumbling it into bouncing off a brick wall one time I have yet to scratch my screen. The rest of the phone is dented & scratched but the screen is still beautiful.
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I have a tiny little chip right in the middle of my screen on my Captivate about a cm underneath the AT&T logo. It has taken less abuse than yours, and it even has a screen protector on it. It looks like the kind of chip you would get if a piece of gravel hit your windshield a little too hard.
Your mileage may vary.
Hydrocharged said:
I used to be the same way as you guys, "I don't need a screen protector because it's been through everything and still works perfectly!!" Yet, one day I found a scratch on my screen that I have no idea whatsoever where it came from. So, I got this Boxwave ClearTouch Crystal screen protector, and you literally cannot tell it is on there. It feels just like the glass (con for me actually, I prefer a paper kind of feel) and doesn't scratch easily at all. Plus, I installed it in a dusty room and there was no lint or anything else under the screen. It even comes with a thick card to remove bubbles once it has been applied. So, if you're even slighty, .000001% scared of getting lint trapped underneath the screen, go with Boxwave. I vouch for its clarity and ease of installation. Also, my screen is just as sensitive as before, as I've tried BARELY touching the screen and it still would pick up a touch.
And, in the rare event that you did get dust glued to the screen, it is completely washable and rewashable, so it is a little expensive, but well, well worth it.
Oh, and there is no adhesive whatsoever, not even water is needed. Just peel and go.
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Thanks for the info on the Boxwave screen protector, I've been wandering if it's as good as it looks.
In the malls near me now, there are little carts (you know those areas of the mall, where the cart/carny people are) that have people with small steady hands...
Invisible Shield it is called. They give you a lifetime warranty on the cover. They put it on. They will even cover your entire phone if you want (the back of the Captivate I am thinking of getting covered to avoid scratches on the metal back), and if you get a replacement phone for some reason, you only pay a portion of the price (material only) and they put it on again.
They use some sort of silicon liquid (snake oil... was probably just water) to aid in putting it on, and mine is perfect. Had a couple bubbles with the liquid still in it, but true to their word, it evaporated (through the protector) and it was perfect the next morning.
I jumped at this opportunity after totally FAILING at putting on a protector on my Tilt 2 (two packs of 3). On that phone, I took an exacto knife to cut off the excess I was so bad at it. I gladly paid $20 to have someone else do it and give me a warranty on it.
Invisible Shield. Check out your local mall.
Jeepsdaddy said:
I cannot stand the installation procedure needed for the screen protectors. Every single time: I use the "provided micro fiber" cloth to remove dirt and lint and the apply. EVERY TIME I am left with tiny lint,, micro specs of air dust etc. between the film and the screen, and a small little bubble here and there. It drives me crazy. Call me obsessive compulsive but it take me about 3 screen protectors until I finally get it right. Anyone aware of any screen protection technology that will help me avoid this outcome?
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I think the gorilla glass is pretty resilient. Check out this youtube vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68
I was wondering if there are any go to screen proctectors? Any to avoid, like do any cause issues with the touch screen?
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I'd avoid the hard plastic static-type. They're difficult to put on without dust. I've been using the ones from clearprotector (.com). 50% off and free ship with the code iwantultra (have it memorized cause I've gotten several). The corners and edges are kind of a ***** to get on, but they work well and come with a lifetime warranty (or so they say...). This is a wet-application so don't use them unless you're willing to take the time to watch the youtube videos to learn how to install, and then takes about 20 minutes to install.
I get mine from www.bestskinsever.com. I've had no problems with them. The screen protector is easy to apply and very durable.
I have Ghost Armor on mine and like it, it is a bit smoother than Zagg or Bestskinsever.
Be warned if you want the full body protection, adding this to the back of my tab caused me to have the newton ring problem. I never had the problem with just the screen protector on, I should I have just stuck with the screen and not the entire thing but I really wanted the matte back on my tab.
Thanks fellas. I have and used to do/use the wet application ones for a while. Then I got tired of them and just went with the cling ones. I think I'll get the wet app and it should last a longgg time. Especially since Im not going to be using the tab every day.
I went with Clarivue on the recommendation of a friend.
It's decent enough, no tackiness or anything like that but it's not the best fitting, could've been a couple of mm wider and taller.
Other than that, whilst I've had a long-standing dislike for them, recently I've found Zagg's InvisibleShield protectors to be pretty decent - they seem to be very well fitted and the tacky feel to them that I remember doesn't seem as noticeable.
Kinda wish I'd gone with them for my Tab
Which would you guys say offers the smoothest screen experiences of all? I don't care about longevity as I only use my tab about once every 2 weeks
Imo the smoothest would be the cling on ones.
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I purchased these in July from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058NXPLK
I was never a fan of the "wet" applications, to me it just seemed like too much work and I was never comfortable spraying any type of liquid all over my devices, regardless of how harmless they might be.
But anyway, this is a clear, non-matte protector that is the "static cling" kind of application. Once it goes on properly, you cannot see that is even there. The touch feeling is the same as if you had no protector on. I really feel that those matte ones, while they do reduce sun-glare, a lot of them provide a "tacky" feeling that maybe is fine for a smaller screen such as a phone, but can become very annoying for a larger screen if you do a lot of swiping across the larger surface area of a tablet. But that is a personal thing....I usually don't use my tablet outside in the bright sun anyway, so the matte types are useless for me.
I've had it on since the end of July and it's held up very well. You do have to wipe the smudges off the screen occasionally, but you'd have to do that anyway even with no protector. I'm extremely satisfied with these.
So I've got an Invisible Shield en route for my Tab, will post back when it arrives.
Same here haha.
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I just bought the glare-reduction screen protector from BodyGuardz. Has anyone else had any experience with them? I wanted something that would offer a decent amount of protection for the screen (fingerprint and physical pressure), but also not reduce the touch sensitivity at all. (I type with the tip of my nose since I can't use my fingers, and trying to press too hard hurts )
Not sure where you can get it, but here in Singapore there's a brand called DataFlex and their screen protectors seem really good.
I bought SGP steinheil shield ultra optics. I liked it.
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I have Ghost Armor on mine and like it, it is a bit smoother than Zagg or Bestskinsever.
Be warned if you want the full body protection, adding this to the back of my tab caused me to have the newton ring problem. I never had the problem with just the screen protector on, I should I have just stuck with the screen and not the entire thing but I really wanted the matte back on my tab.
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So this newton ring issue is a major problem. What if I just protect the back and leave the screen open? I have the new logitech keyboard case on the way and the front is protected in the case, but the back is exposed. I planned on protecting the back only. But I wont do anything if it'll case the newton rings.
Newton Ring?
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So this newton ring issue is a major problem. What if I just protect the back and leave the screen open? I have the new logitech keyboard case on the way and the front is protected in the case, but the back is exposed. I planned on protecting the back only. But I wont do anything if it'll case the newton rings.
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Yeah. Same here. Just want a more "grippy" back. How does one produce Newton Rings from the back of the device. Methunked it was a display issue resulting from the interaction of the protector and display glass...kinda by definition...
Hopefully we'll find out soon. I just want to protect the back.
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Yeah. Same here. Just want a more "grippy" back. How does one produce Newton Rings from the back of the device. Methunked it was a display issue resulting from the interaction of the protector and display glass...kinda by definition...
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I blame the install of the rear skin because I had the screen skin installed first and then three weeks later I had the rear done. He turned the tab face down and installed the skin. When he turned it over, bam, Netwon Rings...
I never had them before the front screen protector, during the front screen protector install or after the front protector was on the Tab.
Will it happen to you? I have no idea but from what I have read about the problem it is caused because of the Tab moving/flexing which can be caused by excessive heat and certain handling of the Tab.
thanks!
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I blame the install of the rear skin because I had the screen skin installed first and then three weeks later I had the rear done. He turned the tab face down and installed the skin. When he turned it over, bam, Netwon Rings...
I never had them before the front screen protector, during the front screen protector install or after the front protector was on the Tab.
Will it happen to you? I have no idea but from what I have read about the problem it is caused because of the Tab moving/flexing which can be caused by excessive heat and certain handling of the Tab.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain the details. Sounds like a warranty kinda thing mebbe. Hope it gets resolved! Mine is on order and I'll watch out for this issue.
Cheers!
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I'd avoid the hard plastic static-type.
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I bought an anti-glare protector from Cellularbuy on eBay and managed to get it on in one go with no dust at all. The protector fits perfectly and the camera and light sensor holes line up spot on. The anti-glare makes the screen look a little grainy, but I hear that even the Steinhell ones that are many times more expensive have the same problem.
This has been gone over millions of times on each forum here, but here's how I did it:
-Wipe the screen down with a soft cloth and glasses cleaner or isopropyl to get any grease off
-Run the shower in a small bathroom on hot until the room is unbearably steamy
-Put on a hat to keep your hair and head funk from falling on the screen
-Line the protector up on the screen before removing the film and tape it on one side with a few pieces of Scotch tape
-Also make a "handle" out of tape to put on the top of the protector opposite the taped-down end. This will help with alignment
-Go into the bathroom and clean the screen with a good microfiber cloth. Also clean the front and back protective sheets on the film so there's no dust to come off when you start peeling them. The steam should be enough to wet it. Take one final look
-Peel the protector back and lay it down pulling the taped edge taut to keep it lined up
-Smooth any bubbles out with a credit card BEFORE peeling the top sheet off
IF you do have any dust, use a piece of tape on a corner to lift up the protector and another piece of tape to pick up the dust. If the room is steamy enough and you did a good job of wiping the screen this shouldn't happen.
DBA is a lesser-known company specializing in phone cases and screen protectors. One of their newer products, the "Just Like Glass®" screen protector promises to be the best screen protector you'll ever have.
Here's what Scott of DBA has to say about the screen protector:
We also had an independent third party test directly against ZAGG and destroyed them.
Testing with Laser Beams for distortion, regular glass of course had 0, Just Like Glass had 11.50, and Zagg had 666.
ZAGG doesn't even claim to increase the break resistance of the glass while ours has tested for an increase of near 40%.
In a wear test equivalent to putting it in and out of your pocket ZAGG showed wear after 345 times and our showed no wear even after 10,000.
ZAGG is more scratch resistant but at the cost of creating the distortion. And the difference isn't that great.
Just like glass screen protectors are stain proof. You can get makeup on the, dirt, oil, dye, etc... and you can wipe it off. ZAGG you can't. I personally tested ours with a black sharpie (not really the best decision looking back on it) and it did come off with a little elbow grease.
As far as being smoother than glass, if you use glass as the baseline Just Like Glass is 20% smoother while ZAGG was -147%. You can really feel it.
Ours don't have the orange peel effect that ZAGG does.
I wouldn't be doing this at all if I didn't have something that I would use and that was better than everything else.
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It's a wet-application (like ZAGG), but the included application kit makes it easy. This protector covers the viewing area, allowing it to work with cases perfectly.
It looks very promising and costs only $13.50 (by comparison, the ZAGG protector is $14.99).
Here's the site: DBA "Just Like Glass®"
I had a heck of a time getting it out of the plastic and in the process it got dimples from trying to pull it out. I contacted them to see if they will get a replacement sent out what a bad experience because they decided to make the plastic bag it comes in too damn tight with no leeway at all. The other con I noticed is it says to use a hard card but it does not come with one so I used the squeeze I have from Skinomi that I used on the Transformer Prime tablet.
Now I do have to admit it does feel like glass and not the soft rubbery feel I am use to with my mothers Skinomi. I always hate how the Skinomi drags on the tablet but this no drag at all. I will let you know how customer support is like after contacting them for a replacement for this one that got dimpled getting it out of the too tight plastic bag. Next time I will use a knife to cut the bag instead of trying to pull it out.
Oh and one more thing no sensitivity decrease at all that I can tell. I will try to get some pictures of it with my mothers camera to post but just to let you know it just a few mm larger than the screen so only covers the screen so great for cases.
I also tested the permanent marker on a piece of the excess plastic that I pulled it from and the marker after drying wiped right off so definitely appears to hold up to the claim of stain proof.
I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.
Now I'm curious.
How was the fit on the screen? Full to the edge coverage? Custom cutouts or just a chunk cut out?
I'm interested in this. Anyone else who bought willing to share?
Ok here is the pictures I promised. BTW I was not able to attach the pictures here got a security token was missing error.. any idea why? I was only able to attach picture by uploading from a picture site like Photobucket. Anyways I think I did a pretty good job of these pictures and you will see the 3 blemishes/dimples I caused pulling the protector out of the plastic but it came out better than I thought it would for only my second wet application install.
The fit is just about 1-2 mm larger than the screen so it only covers the screen and really works well with my case. The case is quite narrow for one with a kickstand and been very happy with the $10 purchase for it.
pmoradi2002 said:
I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.
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Everyone in every retail setting will tell you customers are dumb. Letting those customers know on a forum is a bad thing for your business.
From the DBA website, it appears that this is a fairly new company; a start-up by one individual. Do we have any independent evaluation of his claims regarding his screen protector and cases?
So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?
kuratsu said:
So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?
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Yes just like the pictures show. You can see the edges on the top down view of the phone. It's the area I was worried about and it is not rubbery or tacky like on my mothers Skinomi.
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I'm guessing that's what the other guy did for spectre?
this looks promising. the thing i hate about wet application is the tacky feel to it. but if this promises to be "just like glass", might be worth trying it out.
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Yeah it's not a bad price and definitely not rubbery/tacky at all. BTW if you have any other questions on it let me know I'll answer to the best of my knowledge this was my first actual review so hope I covered all the bases in what was important to know Hope it was useful to you all.
Just Like Glass Screen Protectors
Hey all,
I'm not really new but I tend to post on other forums. I come here for the good stuff on rooting.
I'm the CEO of DBA Cases, Inc.
I did start the company, however I had several investors. After having an Original Droid, a Bionic, and a Galaxy Nexus I had a very good idea of what people liked.
Personally I hated screen protectors and was not going to sell one until we came up with this. I have it on my phone and love it. It protects against breaks as well - my photographer asked me why I went into making cases so I took the phone out of the case and it squirted out of my hand - hit the wall and then our tile floor. No damage at all to the phone but a very small micro scratch on the Just Like Glass Protector. It probably would have shattered. I've found that the most you can do is give it micro scratches - you can't feel them or see them with the screen on. That's what I got from the fall and it doesn't bother me at all.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Scott
molitar said:
Nice idea but I can not buy any case without a kickstand I watch alot of videos on mine.
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I completely understand. I wanted to put a kickstand on the Ultra but it would have been too bulky. Also the cost of adding a kickstand is nearly the same amount as making the mold for the case.
I have a different solution I use.
I'm planning on making my own stand but I have them wherever I may need it.
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While I'm taking pictures...
The Ultra and the Thin Grip
Please ignore the mess behind them.
The case does not look that much skinnier than the Amaze I am using which does have a kickstand.
Promising
Looks pretty cool. How does it keep your screen safe? doest it last well?
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How can you tell how thin the cases are from my picture
Stands must be made out of polycarbonate or abs in order to hold the case up. That means some bulk. It doesn't have to be a ton but I looked into a ton of stands and didn't decide to do it.
I wanted to - in fact I was going to make a stand of the same material they use in snap watches would would be made of TPU. Press a button and the stand comes out and can bend.
Problem is that it increases the cost of the case by at least $10,000. In fact I was talking to the CEO of another case company last week and he said it took three molds to make his stand. That's a ton of money.
Since I had a budget I decided to do without - some day.
Both of my cases could not be any thinner than they are.
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I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.
molitar said:
I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.
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We are going to do a video soon for installing but the instructions on the site are the newest versions. Doing it in the shower is the safest method but if I suggest it people probably will freak out about how hard it is when it's really pretty easy.
In the video that was a glass puncher. I know it's hard to tell how hard it's being pushed but it's the same force. One is done on the film which stops the force and one on the glass which does not. The key test was pretty intense and then taking the rotary to it was cool. (if people are wondering it's on the Facebook page).
Samsung with the Galaxy Nexus and the S3 have made great glass that doesn't pick up prints. The one irritation about the protector I have is that it does. Not terribly but I'm used to not worrying about it. We are working on a way to get rid of the micro scratches and the fingerprints. The problem is if we add a layer it makes it feel more plastic and ruins the visibility. It has to be a chemistry solution and I didn't take chemistry in college so I just ask them to try...
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I wonder how these screen protectors compare to the ZAGG EXTREME
I found this Screen protector on Amazon and what caught my eye is that it wraps around the side of the phone onto the back. at 2 for $15 CDN it was worth trying.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06ZZ5Q95L/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Application:
It was a little rough, the first one had too much adhesive. While trying to take off the 1st part, the Adhesive side, it actually peeled the 2nd part, the screen protector side off. It took a lot of force to get the Adhesive side off the screen protector itself, that i ended up ruining it. However the 2nd sheet was much easier to peel apart. The Adhesive layer comes off in 3 parts. the Screen and one for each side. Lining it up was fairly easy using the speaker, sensors and camera at the top. Once it was on properly, the sides wrapped around to the back of the phone. It's easier to smooth out the bubbles before putting the sides down.
Looks:
It looks really clear but when at an angle with a light there is an orange peel effect but this may have been from over zealous rubbing to get the bubbles out. Regardless I am quite pleased at how good it looks over other film screen protectors I've used in the past with other phones.
In a Case:
I'm using a a Spigen Tough Armor Case
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XP4FP8N/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The screen protector has a very small clearance at all corners, when applied properly the corner of the case won't touch it nor lift it. Since it wraps around it will not lift it from the sides either, or at least shouldn't. I haven't been able to put it though any long term tests but then again i don't plan on taking the case off any more than i really have to.
Now what you all came for, pictures!
http://imgur.com/a/dNSCY
I was about to order the white dome but the review about the prominent lip tuned me to iqshields full body since I will have the phone naked in a holster. I was thinking about the liquid shields next but maybe I'll try this one the next go around if iqshields doesn't work out. Thanks for the find!
I do not see how that wrap around will work. There will be air pocket around the seem .
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I just installed one on mine and I dont think you will find a better one than this at this point in time. Its is case friendly with the 3 cases I have tried at this point. UAG, Spigen Liquid Armour, and a Ringke case, the corners are just to the point where they dont touch the case corners. The only potential area of issue for me is after putting on the screen protector (which for me went flawless after watching the youtube install video) was the area around the Power, Volume and Bixby buttons. After putting the case on it wants to "bubble" a bit in those areas. But once I rolled my finger over the edge, pulling back the case slightly it laid the protector back down. its only been a couple hours but so far so good and Im way happier with this $12 purchase over the 45 whitestone dome that seems to be hit or miss.
Photos were taken with the Spigen Liquid Armour case on. Also taken with my tablet so quality on a couple of them are crappy but you should get a good idea,
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I do not see how that wrap around will work. There will be air pocket around the seem .
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Just imagine starting off at the edge of your phone to getting started and rolling the phone up like playdoh or a joint smoothing along as you go...to easy!
Thinking about ordering a set of these up. I don't like the orange peel look and the top does not look too case friendly. Does the orange peel smooth out over time or is it permanent?
Personally my opinion of this screen protector as I just purchased and returned it to amazon:
-it messes white whites on your screen. They dont look good anymore after I applied the protector.
-While it does wrap around the sides, when you put on the case it still lifts up the corners and creates little air pockets on the sides of the screen
- Extremely orange peel look on this screen protector.
I purchased the IQ shield case friendly updated version and the image quality is WAY better than this ringke one. Using the IQshield I can actually say for certain it feels like there isnt a screen protector on, with my eyes and my fingers. The ringke you can immediately with just your eyes tell there is something off due to what it does with white balance.
My advice is, dont buy the ringke, there are better ones out there.
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Thinking about ordering a set of these up. I don't like the orange peel look and the top does not look too case friendly. Does the orange peel smooth out over time or is it permanent?
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if it's lined up properly there is a tiny gap between the screen and the case, so it shouldn't lift. I only had it for a few day and it's getting less and less but i don't think it'll go away completely since i was a little over zealous trying But when i'm using it, it's barly noticable if at all. It's only when a light shines on the screen.
It's not for everyone but i feel it does a good enough job for a lot of people to be happy with. The fact that it wraps around is it's main selling point as it will completely protect the edge screen and the case won't lift it up IF applied properly
I applied one to my S8+ this morning. I think it's great for what it is. It's not glass, but it's smooth and feels like nothing is there. There's an ever so slight orange peel look, but I only notice it when looking at the phone from an angle in light, and it doesn't look like I'll have any lifting from my Ringke case. Overall I'm very pleased with it.
Why not try the BestSkinsEver protectors ? I actually have the edge-to-edge one installed w/ a Ringke Slim case and it is not lifting at all. I thought it would, but actually, it isn't. Now, I would like to use my Spigen Slim Armor case but when I put the phone in there, the corners started to lift up. My BSE case-friendly protectors came in but I will probably wait to install it at a later date.
This is the real deal. Hella nice! Works with my rhinoshield as well
Only issue I've found so far is that the side flaps distort the button mechanics. Takes more force to unlock phone and volume up/down
They'll break in tho. Love the combo