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hi. im really interested in this tablet. i want the LTE version. untill now i thought there are two versions of this tablet
WIFI only with Exynos octacore chip
LTE+WIFI version with snapdragon 800 chip
pls check the full specifications.
http://homeshopping.pk/products/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-84-LTE-16GB-Bronze-Price-In-Pakistan.html
now. here where i live, on a local store, they have WIFI only version with EXYNOS version... WTF??? right?
i need the snapdragon version. i have had 3 Exynos phones in the past, Note 2, S3, and NOte 3 and all overheated like ****!
dont need Exynos no more! either i will get the snapdragon one or just let go of idea of buying this tablet. pls check here.
also, can some one here link me amazon or newegg link to LTE snapdragon 800 version of this tablet?
Your observed overheating for sure has NOTHING to do with Exynos.
For the Snapdragon version there are several threads around...
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Your observed overheating for sure has NOTHING to do with Exynos.
For the Snapdragon version there are several threads around...
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well, about the overheating of device with exynos, its true. i have even observed it on one of my friend's Note 3 exynos version. its really unacceptable for samsung not to fix this issue with their in house chip, considering huge R&D budget. so i have decided never to get exynos device at all!
i will get the snapdragon version if its available. if not, then i will get iPad Air or Air 2
can u link me to Snapdragon from newegg or amazon? i cant find.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/snapdragon-t2857038
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/lte-model-snapdragon-t2842537
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/snapdragon-exynos-version-t2841453
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/snapdragon-t2857038
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/lte-model-snapdragon-t2842537
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/snapdragon-exynos-version-t2841453
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thank u a lot bro but i didn't mean links here on xda.
i need link to NEWEGG OR AMAZON where they are selling the SNAPDRAGON 800 VERSION, from WHERE I CAN BUY!
Just go ahead and ask in these threads. Probably you can get Snapdragon version only by contract (I don't know, since I have Exynos version).
both come with exynos chip. wifi or the lte version. both. if you see the device code SM-T700 or SM-T705. it is exynos.
the only snapdragon version are for US Variant which i thin cant work on other place because we use a different band.
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well, about the overheating of device with exynos, its true. i have even observed it on one of my friend's Note 3 exynos version. its really unacceptable for samsung not to fix this issue with their in house chip, considering huge R&D budget. so i have decided never to get exynos device at all!
i will get the snapdragon version if its available. if not, then i will get iPad Air or Air 2
can u link me to Snapdragon from newegg or amazon? i cant find.
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Well, my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (WiFi Only) is the only Exynos based device I have had, so I have no way to compare it to earlier versions. I can say that mine never over heats. Of course I have the book cover on it. But I've never noticed it being hot or even warm and it isn't showing any signs of instability.
Snapdragon has much better development
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Well, my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (WiFi Only) is the only Exynos based device I have had, so I have no way to compare it to earlier versions. I can say that mine never over heats. Of course I have the book cover on it. But I've never noticed it being hot or even warm and it isn't showing any signs of instability.
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i have never used any kind of cover for any of my phones or tablets. im of the idea that the devices are meant to be used the way they are. i like them naked
i know Exynos gets hot, cause this same chip is used in Pro series and i have used that for like 10 minutes of Asphalt and it DID get quite warm!
and im pretty sure, cause of such a high res display, this would too. mainly because where i live its quite hot. u know, its 25th november today and time right now is 11:30pm night, and guess whats the temperature here, its 25C!
in summer it get as high as 46C-49C. even air conditioning does not help some times!
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^this, also lag is very limited in Touchwiz. thats the only reason i left samsung.
i personally like FLASHY and vibrant UI of samsung, but i HATE LAG!
i switched to LG . infact, i first got a monitor from LG and i was LITERALLY ASTONISHED by its panel! thats why i got LG G2! and i was REALLY AMAZED by their optimus UI and G2 UI and boy, G2 is a BATTERY CHAMP! i loved that device so much.
and there was NO lag at all! i mean NONE! even when LG's UI is almost same as TOUCHWIZ.
i guess, samsung puts some special ingredient touchwiz to make it lag like hell, on SNAPDRAGON 805 chip (NOTE 4)
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both come with exynos chip. wifi or the lte version. both. if you see the device code SM-T700 or SM-T705. it is exynos.
yeah u are right. i have checked it thorougly and i have found that only 2 of US variants offer 800 one. one of them is Sprint. its the last alphabet that is different. like T705V and T705C also, T805V and T805C
the only snapdragon version are for US Variant which i thin cant work on other place because we use a different band.
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...i know Exynos gets hot, cause this same chip is used in Pro series.
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Mine does not get hot. Also, Exynos is not the only SOC used in the pro series. The pro 8.4 uses a Snapdragon 800
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Mine does not get hot. Also, Exynos is not the only SOC used in the pro series. The pro 8.4 uses a Snapdragon 800
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see this
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Exyn....4-cant-take-the-heat-owner-complains_id58305
My carrier (Bell in Canada) has agreed to let me do a refund on my Snapdragon Note 7 because of the recall. I was thinking of then going and buying a Exynos version because I get lag with my Snapdragon version which drives me nuts. I was looking into B&H Photo because they provide a 1 year warranty and say they will be getting new stock of the "f" model around Sept 18 that is safe from the recall. I would end up paying about $500 extra to switch versions and be contract free. Is it worth it? Is rooting and performance that much better?
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My carrier (Bell in Canada) has agreed to let me do a refund on my Snapdragon Note 7 because of the recall. I was thinking of then going and buying a Exynos version because I get lag with my Snapdragon version which drives me nuts. I was looking into B&H Photo because they provide a 1 year warranty and say they will be getting new stock of the "f" model around Sept 18 that is safe from the recall. I would end up paying about $500 extra to switch versions and be contract free. Is it worth it? Is rooting and performance that much better?
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Take a look at this before making any decisions...
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That does seem like a pretty big difference. Does it tend to translate to real life difference?
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That does seem like a pretty big difference. Does it tend to translate to real life difference?
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Yes, the Exynos is much smoother in real life. The SD is a bit of a fail in the Note 7.
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My carrier (Bell in Canada) has agreed to let me do a refund on my Snapdragon Note 7 because of the recall. I was thinking of then going and buying a Exynos version because I get lag with my Snapdragon version which drives me nuts. I was looking into B&H Photo because they provide a 1 year warranty and say they will be getting new stock of the "f" model around Sept 18 that is safe from the recall. I would end up paying about $500 extra to switch versions and be contract free. Is it worth it? Is rooting and performance that much better?
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I'm with Bell as well, how did you get them to agree? The only thing I have seen is this: http://support.bell.ca/mobility/smartphones_and_mobile_internet/samsung_galaxy_note7_update
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Yes, the Exynos is much smoother in real life. The SD is a bit of a fail in the Note 7.
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I agree get the Exynos if you can. The Snapdragon is full of problems and terrible battery life compared to the Exynos version.
Literally the only way I can make my Exynos lag is too open all 120 apps while multi windows + running Antutu (exaggeration obviously) in all seriousness I have never seen my device lag even when gaming order and chaos 2, dead trigger 2, Pokemon Go, clash of clans..etc
stevierayvaughan said:
I'm with Bell as well, how did you get them to agree? The only thing I have seen is this: http://support.bell.ca/mobility/smartphones_and_mobile_internet/samsung_galaxy_note7_update
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I talked to them today over chat support. I asked about exchange or refund. They seemed reluctant at first but said were gonna put a note in my account for when I went back to the store I got it from... Saying to refund it. No if they actually do so at the store or what trouble they give me is another thing.
So here is my story...
I bought the Note 7 in Hong Kong (SMN-9300). Normally in HK all previous note / galaxy releases have always come with the Exynos chipset. So to my surprise when i picked up my brand new Note 7 on September 2nd, It had the SD 820. After reading hundreds of posts on here and other forums and seeing lots of users claim the Exynos was better I went and bought a Singapore Version SMN-930F which comes with an Exynos CPU. After 2 days of using both I can honestly say there is LITTLE to no difference in real life everyday use.
I had let my obsession get the best of me and shelled out the money to buy a second Note 7 just because everyone was saying "Get the exynos" "Its soooo much better". This is total B.S. Im holding both devices right now and I can promise you there is NO huge noticeable difference. Ive heard reports of lags on both the Exynos and Snapdragon version. But both devices which i have run smooth and fine. The battery life is almost identical, perhaps slightly better on the Exynos. But its hardly noticeable at all. I find that the SD has MUCH better GPU performance and does not run nearly as hot as the Exynos.
After obsessively benchmarking both, I've come to the conclusion that they are almost identical in most cases. The SD version always destroys the Exynos on the Antutu (Which is mostly to test GPU / Graphics). While the Exynos crushes the SD on geek Bench (More CPU geared). As for other tests like Basemark OSII, Vellamo PCMark etc they both score almost identically. To be honest I really don't think these benchmark results mean much and are not very relevant to the everyday user. Because despite the bench mark results, I find that the Exynos handles games / graphic intensive tasks just as well as the SnapDragon 820. And the SD runs as fast, and is just as responsive as the Exynos.
The moral of the story is don't over think things like i did! Save your $500 bucks and stick with the SD version. After using both devices for a few days i can tell you from HONEST experience there is no noticeable difference between the 2. They are both totally capable of runnings apps, web browsing, watching movies, playing games and things that most users need. If there was a HUGE difference between the 2 I would tell you go ahead and spend the $500. But in all honesty you will be disappointed when you shell out the $500 bucks and get the Exynos and notice there is little to no noticeable difference.
In you initial post, you stated that your SD version is laggy, and thats why you want to exchange to the Exynos version. But take a look at some of the SM-930F (Exynos) posts on XDA and you will see users facing the same problems with the Exynos version. From lagged typing / keyboards, Boot Loops, Screen issues to over all lagged performance. Yet as mentioned I have two Note 7's (SD & Exynos) and have not had any of the above mentioned problems on either. I suspect the problem could be related to the early produced models, Battery issues, or software issues. Have you tried to factory reset your note? Make sure it has the latest software update and try it then?
Also keep in mind both devices are still reasonably new. And with the whole exploding battery fiasco, Samsung probably has not had much time to focus on software updates. Im sure after the Battery / recall issues are resolved and the device has been on the market for a few months both versions will get several updates which will make them even better.
Hope this helps!
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So here is my story...
I bought the Note 7 in Hong Kong (SMN-9300). Normally in HK all previous note / galaxy releases have always come with the Exynos chipset. So to my surprise when i picked up my brand new Note 7 on September 2nd, It had the SD 820. After reading hundreds of posts on here and other forums and seeing lots of users claim the Exynos was better I went and bought a Singapore Version SMN-930F which comes with an Exynos CPU. After 2 days of using both I can honestly say there is LITTLE to no difference in real life everyday use.
I had let my obsession get the best of me and shelled out the money to buy a second Note 7 just because everyone was saying "Get the exynos" "Its soooo much better". This is total B.S. Im holding both devices right now and I can promise you there is NO huge noticeable difference. Ive heard reports of lags on both the Exynos and Snapdragon version. But both devices which i have run smooth and fine. The battery life is almost identical, perhaps slightly better on the Exynos. But its hardly noticeable at all. I find that the SD has MUCH better GPU performance and does not run nearly as hot as the Exynos.
After obsessively benchmarking both, I've come to the conclusion that they are almost identical in most cases. The SD version always destroys the Exynos on the Antutu (Which is mostly to test GPU / Graphics). While the Exynos crushes the SD on geek Bench (More CPU geared). As for other tests like Basemark OSII, Vellamo PCMark etc they both score almost identically. To be honest I really don't think these benchmark results mean much and are not very relevant to the everyday user. Because despite the bench mark results, I find that the Exynos handles games / graphic intensive tasks just as well as the SnapDragon 820. And the SD runs as fast, and is just as responsive as the Exynos.
The moral of the story is don't over think things like i did! Save your $500 bucks and stick with the SD version. After using both devices for a few days i can tell you from HONEST experience there is no noticeable difference between the 2. They are both totally capable of runnings apps, web browsing, watching movies, playing games and things that most users need. If there was a HUGE difference between the 2 I would tell you go ahead and spend the $500. But in all honesty you will be disappointed when you shell out the $500 bucks and get the Exynos and notice there is little to no noticeable difference.
In you initial post, you stated that your SD version is laggy, and thats why you want to exchange to the Exynos version. But take a look at some of the SM-930F (Exynos) posts on XDA and you will see users facing the same problems with the Exynos version. From lagged typing / keyboards, Boot Loops, Screen issues to over all lagged performance. Yet as mentioned I have two Note 7's (SD & Exynos) and have not had any of the above mentioned problems on either. I suspect the problem could be related to the early produced models, Battery issues, or software issues. Have you tried to factory reset your note? Make sure it has the latest software update and try it then?
Also keep in mind both devices are still reasonably new. And with the whole exploding battery fiasco, Samsung probably has not had much time to focus on software updates. Im sure after the Battery / recall issues are resolved and the device has been on the market for a few months both versions will get several updates which will make them even better.
Hope this helps!
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I think you're missing the biggest advantage of the Exynos variant. A lot of users love it for its superior battery life, and having used yours for little time, you probably wouldnt have had enough time to thoroughly test it. Correct me if im wrong!!
I would happily dish out $500 for a Note 7 that lasts 2 extra hours of the screen on, especially with less lag. I can personally confirm the SD Note 7 is trash.
the only issue I'm having with the exynos is button lag (have to keep pressing the button esp on the phone app before it works) and occasional reboots. It also hung when sending a SMS whilst listening to music, taking 2 restarts to go back to normal.
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I think you're missing the biggest advantage of the Exynos variant. A lot of users love it for its superior battery life, and having used yours for little time, you probably wouldnt have had enough time to thoroughly test it. Correct me if im wrong!!
I would happily dish out $500 for a Note 7 that lasts 2 extra hours of the screen on, especially with less lag. I can personally confirm the SD Note 7 is trash.
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Ive been using both phones (Exynos & Snapdragon) for a few days now. Again im using the INTERNATIONAL version of the SD (SM-N9300). This model was only released on September 2nd, so maybe its better than the US snapdragon version released almost a month before. Meaning maybe samsung has made some changes / tweaks to the phone to make it run better.
- Lag : When comparing the 2 I see little to NO lag in either phone. And to be honest when I do see the occasional bit of lag its on the Exynos version! This normally happens when typing . I have yet to experience lag on the SD version.
- Battery life : I Can confirm that there is NO where near a 2 hour advantage. I have left both phones on next to each other for 2-3 hours strait and the difference in battery drop has been max 3-5%( So for example the SD would be at 85% and the Exynos would be at 88%).
And if you are advising him to "happily dish out $500 for 2 hours battery life" That sounds a bit silly. For $500 bucks you could go buy yourself a whole second phone like the OnePlus 3. Which would give you a lot more for your money.
Hell for $500 bucks you could grab a brand new OnePlus 3 + External portable charger + order a pizza!
Also as mentioned I'm almost certain the difference in battery life is no where near 2 hours. More like an extra 15-30 minutes at MOST. I will post more accurate details after testing the phones further in the coming days.
As of now the ONLY advantage I'm seeing with the Exynos is the ability to root it now. And that is presuming that you are willing to VOID the warranty on a brand new $800-900 phone you just bought. Im sure down the line the SD version will be rooted. And with everything available today (App De-enabler, Helium, etc) rooting is not much of a priority for most as it used to be. I would honestly be hesitant to root my Exynos version being that its a expensive devise and still very new. I don't want to risk voiding my warranty just yet.
So in short:
BOTH VERSIONS - Little to no lag, Perform fine.
Exynos - Slightly better battery (3-5% overall is my estimate), ability to root NOW, if you are willing to void your warranty.
SnapDragon (SM-N9300 International version) - Slightly better GPU processing. Does not get as hot when running heavy / graphic intensive games. No lag issues with keyboard. No crashes / boot loops yet.
phame said:
Ive been using both phones (Exynos & Snapdragon) for a few days now. Again im using the INTERNATIONAL version of the SD (SM-N9300). This model was only released on September 2nd, so maybe its better than the US snapdragon version released almost a month before. Meaning maybe samsung has made some changes / tweaks to the phone to make it run better.
- Lag : When comparing the 2 I see little to NO lag in either phone. And to be honest when I do see the occasional bit of lag its on the Exynos version! This normally happens when typing . I have yet to experience lag on the SD version.
- Battery life : I Can confirm that there is NO where near a 2 hour advantage. I have left both phones on next to each other for 2-3 hours strait and the difference in battery drop has been max 3-5%( So for example the SD would be at 85% and the Exynos would be at 88%).
And if you are advising him to "happily dish out $500 for 2 hours battery life" That sounds a bit silly. For $500 bucks you could go buy yourself a whole second phone like the OnePlus 3. Which would give you a lot more for your money.
Hell for $500 bucks you could grab a brand new OnePlus 3 + External portable charger + order a pizza!
Also as mentioned I'm almost certain the difference in battery life is no where near 2 hours. More like an extra 15-30 minutes at MOST. I will post more accurate details after testing the phones further in the coming days.
As of now the ONLY advantage I'm seeing with the Exynos is the ability to root it now. And that is presuming that you are willing to VOID the warranty on a brand new $800-900 phone you just bought. Im sure down the line the SD version will be rooted. And with everything available today (App De-enabler, Helium, etc) rooting is not much of a priority for most as it used to be. I would honestly be hesitant to root my Exynos version being that its a expensive devise and still very new. I don't want to risk voiding my warranty just yet.
So in short:
BOTH VERSIONS - Little to no lag, Perform fine.
Exynos - Slightly better battery (3-5% overall is my estimate), ability to root NOW, if you are willing to void your warranty.
SnapDragon (SM-N9300 International version) - Slightly better GPU processing. Does not get as hot when running heavy / graphic intensive games. No lag issues with keyboard. No crashes / boot loops yet.
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So you don't experience the issue with the Snapdragon where the phone will be super fast like 90 percent of the time and then just gets super leggy and slow... So that for example if you're typing you have to wait for it to catch up... Typing one letter at a time? That's what happens to mine... 90 percent fast. .. 5 percent slow and 5 percent unbearablly slow. It doesn't seem to have any pattern or reason... Every with very little open it will start to stutter like that.
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So you don't experience the issue with the Snapdragon where the phone will be super fast like 90 percent of the time and then just gets super leggy and slow... So that for example if you're typing you have to wait for it to catch up... Typing one letter at a time? That's what happens to mine... 90 percent fast. .. 5 percent slow and 5 percent unbearablly slow. It doesn't seem to have any pattern or reason... Every with very little open it will start to stutter like that.
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Nope.
I have been using the SM-N9300 (Hong Kong version) of the Note 7 w/ the Snap Dragon 820 for 6 days now. Have not had a single lag issue. No problems whatsoever with the typing. I have installed and used the stock Samsung, Google and Swift Key keyboards and all of them work perfectly fine with no lag whatsoever.
What is funny is that the Exynos version I recently purchased and have had for almost 3 days now, has had that lag with typing. But only once or twice and nothing too extreme. There is actually a whole thread of people using the Exynos version who are experiencing the Key board lag issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/how-to/galaxy-note-7-singapore-thread-sm-t3444909
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here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/help/note-7-repeated-restart-bootloop-issues-t3444510/page11
Snapdragon = locked bootloader.
Exynos= unlocked.
That's all that needs to be said and should be an easy choice if your here on XDA.
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Might be blasphemy here but after years of custom ROMs on S3 and shortly on S5 (which made the experiences great, no doubt), I can't think of any reason to need root with what I can do on the Note 7 as it is. Even Good Lock takes me back to that nice notification and quick settings I was used to. Of course that's just my requirements of the phone, no doubt plenty want root.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=EiJrEq4CXfQ
Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?
Guitarfreak26 said:
Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?
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Snapdragon 855+ Galaxy Fold(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 11150
QRD865(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 10247
QRD865(Performance)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 12524
Exynos 990 S20Ultra(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 11823
Guitarfreak26 said:
Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?
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I also have the iPhone 11 Pro Max and coming back to Android and too be honest the Exynos VS SD865 does not really bother me, the performance is slower than the SD865 and possibly battery life (specially in standby) may not be the same, but the screen, camera, design, openness of Android more than make up for that I reckon.
Last time I had a Galaxy was the S10 and that was a very nice phone and my only gripe back then was the really poor signal quality so if this is resolved in the S20 Ultra then I am a happy.
You could of course import it if you must have the SD version.
Gadgetsboy on Twitter already discussing the poor battery life on Exynos models... And so it begins lol
Exynos was bad last year on the s10 plus but did get better with updates, eventually swapped for the p30 Pro which is a beast, I too am hoping it's better this year, why can't they all be snapdragon?
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Exynos was bad last year on the s10 plus but did get better with updates, eventually swapped for the p30 Pro which is a beast, I too am hoping it's better this year, why can't they all be snapdragon?
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1) Not enough production.
2) Samsung makes a better profit from Exynos.
3) diversification is good, some years Qualcomm is better, some years Qualcomm is the SD810.
This was my initial question, as exynos has historically been crap.
Namely the GPU being underpowered compared to the same gen Adreno.
I've heard that the exynos / Mali this time is 20% faster, but that tells me nothing, I've also read that even South Korea has gone for the 865 which to me speaks volumes.
Not sure what all this would do for development, I've been away from Samsung since the S5 and note 4, I just couldn't deal with the exynos and it's sub par GPU, as I use emulators from time to time and the Adreno just works, plus you get driver updates.
If the new Mali is comparable to the Adreno (newest) then I'd think about getting this phone.
But my decision would hang on that and the aforementioned crap battery.
Have heard that this may be the last exynos too but couldn't confirm that.
Just wait for Gary explains YouTube channel to make a comparison between the two versions.
I guess the Snapdragon its going to be around 16% to 20% faster than the exynos.
https://youtu.be/MgRnbm9wrzg
You won't likely notice the performance difference. But you will notice the horrible standby battery drain. Overnight, my exynos S20U drop 7% in airplane mode. Compare that to just 1% for my Asus ROG Phone II (not in airplane). But still better than exynos S10+ (10% overnight).
I’m hoping it gets fixed with software updates. Was still on the fence about moving over even though I pre ordered. The battery life on the 11 pro max is absolutely insane, still debating whether it’s worth losing that lol
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Would an imported phone with Snapdragon work fine on European networks? I'm seriously considering importing the damn phone due to that Exynos nonsense..
Diaoul said:
Would an imported phone with Snapdragon work fine on European networks? I'm seriously considering importing the damn phone due to that Exynos nonsense..
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I'm in the same situation - considering getting the HK variant (G9880) which supports pretty much all of the 4G/5G network channels..
I had the S10+ 855 in Australia on Vodafone and it was magic. well over 50mbits+ more download speed than the Exynos too..
Yup I imported snapdragon variant unlocked. Working flawlessly
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Yup I imported snapdragon variant unlocked. Working flawlessly
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Where from?
Guitarfreak26 said:
Where from?
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Just use Wondamobile like always.
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Just use Wondamobile like always.
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Not shipping until 24th Got a exynos ordered from JL for now... Keep wondering whether to cancel or not
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Not shipping until 24th Got a exynos ordered from JL for now... Keep wondering whether to cancel or not
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Don’t cancel. The phone is belter. The noise out there is just noise. Look at it this way, find a phone as a package that has hardware and software as good as, as capable as this phone.
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Don’t cancel. The phone is belter. The noise out there is just noise. Look at it this way, find a phone as a package that has hardware and software as good as, as capable as this phone.
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Did you move from your Max? haha
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Did you move from your Max? haha
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Lol I’ve had a few phones. iPhone 11 Pro has my main sim at the moment. Hoping the Ultra takes over though.
I think this whole exynos thing is overblown, yes there are differences in battery standby etc but surely having a UK warranty, ability to go to a samsung centre for any repairs, resale value is more important?
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So from last few months I am seeing these heated arguments and criticism towards Samsung for using exynos and people claiming it to be "inferior" compared to snapdragon. I don't get it why people are focusing so much on benchmark these days. Just enjoy the experience you are getting it.
I was actually researching on this and came across Geekbench 5 where things turn out to be different in computer score or rather I should say openCL score. I don't know much about it so would be cool if anyone can shine light on it. Difference between exynos and snapdragon is exponentially high like it's insane. (check my ss).
Well I personally have been using snapdragon for more than 7-8 years now and this is my first exynos device, I am pretty happy with it. My last phone has SD 845 and I can say it's a pretty much a welcome improvement over it.
I wanted to know what you guys think about this ? Btw I am leaving my exynos benchmark below, would be cool to see where exactly the difference is present.
The major issue is that you pay the same price, if not more, for a worse hardware.
Nastrahl said:
The major issue is that you pay the same price, if not more, for a worse hardware.
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Well I agree on your part, many people claim the exynos is really trash but when I was browsing through different articles I came across opencl. It's a benchmarking code for CPU, GPU, ram, storage etc.
In this test exynos totally outclassed the snapdragon series. I thought it might be touchwiz restricting it but nope, one plus 7T had similar score.
Also exynos has a slightly better single core performance. This is what baffles me.
The thing is, many users complain about heavy throttling when cpu temps get high, which by the way, havs never ocurred to my 975F, in spite of heavy gaming/streamming and such over long periods of use (2-4 hours), so, from my experience, I have absolutely nothing to complain about, I am not, by any means saying that exynos is better ir superior, but, in NO WAY exynos is "trash" or samsung is abusive by putting them in flagship devices, I knew beforehand that an exynos SOC would be inside the device, nobody forced me to buy the device, if someone wants a snapdragon powered device, there are plenty if options to choose from, in fact, in my country there were snapdragon versions available, even cheaper, but not ditributed by carriers, which is a really important factor when warranty service/support is needed, so in the end it is not a matter of samsung abusing or deceiving customers, it is a matter of consumers assuming RESPONSABILITY for the decision they made to buy an international note series device THAT NOBODY forced them to
But there is the crux of the matter, I have no option BUT to get the Exynos variant in my country...
It has been proven time and again that the Exynos has higher power usage meaning that battery life is down by up to 20% in some tests, CPU does get throttled and also, due to the inferior processing power, photo's aren't as good on the Exynos versus the Snapdragon.
Hell, Samsung ditched their own chip in their home country in favour of the Snapdragon... Yet they keep pushing out their less premium hardware and still charge us the same as, or more than, the superior SoC phones...
Hopefully this will be rectified with their new deal with AMD but anyone who got the Exynos chip in their phone really has an inferior phone to the counterparts that got the Snapdragon.
Your argument that people can get the Snapdragon variant by looking around is not taking into account warranty is not honored for hardware that is for a different region. If you have a Snapdragon phone that has ANY warranty problem, it MUST be returned to the region that it came from which is ridiculous.
Samsung has admitted the Exynos is an inferior chip by replacing their own chip with the Snapdragon in their own country, now they need to do the same for everywhere else...
I maybe wrong, but don't Exynos variants get update faster than Snapdragon?
Tbh, I dont know if one version gets updates faster than the other, but, what I know for sure is, I really liked the device as it was when I purchased it, I researched enough to know about it, its best features and its performance, so, I just dont care much about future updates, as I liked the device for what it was out of the box, plain and simple
Hi guys.
Is it just me or everyone is having same problem.
After talking 100 photos ony s20 ultra exynos version, the cpu temp rocketed to 48 degrees and battery temp went to 44, is anybody else experiencing that?
If so any suggestions how to get rid of the problem or atleast make it better?
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After update G988BXXU3AFTG, Camera Blocks sometimes to operate, after a few shots and video, battery temp is 43 C ,s20 Ultra Exynos 47 C .
before the update, the camera did not freeze and the temperature was 44 degrees max , threw off all the apps I don't use, applied package disable pro, enough memory is free, occasionally it blocks the ability to take photos and gets warm. ..... very warm HOT 47 C, outside temp , was 15 C, in short, S20 Ultra can soon be used as a hand warmer, should there ever be a winter, bad buy of the year!...... ( use internal memory for storage photo's and have a ESim.)
That seems the an issue for everyone then, what region are you? Did you get it checked with samsung service center? Were they any help?
umair1234 said:
That seems the an issue for everyone then, what region are you? Did you get it checked with samsung service center? Were they any help?
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It's Exynos 990 chronic problem all s20 series have this problems with temperature and power consumption, Samsung keeps doing updates sometimes get better and others get worst.
Europe and India are getting robbed by Samsung they charge the same price for exynos and snapdragon version and exynos customers gets the bull**** mid range SoC [emoji1787]
A best solution to you is try to sell it or get a refund if possible. And try to import a snapdragon version if you are really up to stay with s20 ultra.
I have skipped and if Note 20 comes with exynos [email protected]#it I skip again.
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Well I normally get my phone in uk, and refund would could be the option there, but unfortunately I got this in Asia this time around since I was visiting, and that doesn't seem to be the option now, I guess I ll have to sell it if there is no cure to it, sadly. But I have decided after 8 years not to buy a Samsung ever.
umair1234 said:
Well I normally get my phone in uk, and refund would could be the option there, but unfortunately I got this in Asia this time around since I was visiting, and that doesn't seem to be the option now, I guess I ll have to sell it if there is no cure to it, sadly. But I have decided after 8 years not to buy a Samsung ever.
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With exynos (mongoose cores and Mali GPU) yes , you can forget about buying Samsung flagships.
Next year maybe they change to full arm cortex CPU and AMD GPU and maybe things change.
Until there either you try to import a snapdragon version or you buy other brands, like One Plus, Xiaomi, apple. A lot of choice in the market.
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the cause of these complaints is the software, if I do a reset or a cache clean wipe, it normally works again around 38 to 39 degrees, sending it to Samsung service makes no sense, due to all kinds of factors, the Samsung is running wild, it is completely arbitrary when the complaints occur, if I do a reset or a wipe cache, it does it "normal". in short, Samsung has screwed it up again, we are waiting for what the fanboys will release in 2020, Exynos S20 Ultra VDF version. (EU)
gabe_kamphuis said:
the cause of these complaints is the software, if I do a reset or a cache clean wipe, it normally works again around 38 to 39 degrees, sending it to Samsung service makes no sense, due to all kinds of factors, the Samsung is running wild, it is completely arbitrary when the complaints occur, if I do a reset or a wipe cache, it does it "normal". in short, Samsung has screwed it up again, we are waiting for what the fanboys will release in 2020, Exynos S20 Ultra VDF version. (EU)
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No, is software but not only software, the architecture of the SoC is horrendous, is hardware problem also, Mali GPU and mongoose CPU are crap comparing with snapdragon. With a optimize software maybe difference and problems where better disguise, but the problems are physical and still there.
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The thing is, I am using my old s10 plus too, it's exynos as well, but it still works fine, yes gpu performance might be a problem, but it doesn't get as hot, and works fine with everything.
umair1234 said:
The thing is, I am using my old s10 plus too, it's exynos as well, but it still works fine, yes gpu performance might be a problem, but it doesn't get as hot, and works fine with everything.
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Is Samsung style [emoji1787] after 1 year or so it finally optimise the firmware and things run more or less well.
But perfomance gap and power management are also hardware problems and will always be there, with optimized firmware maybe less noticeable.
The fact they probably will stick again with snapdragon version of the Note 20 in their own country should mean something and alert the customers in exynos markets.
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After the update G988XXU3ATG4 heat issue is gone , used package disable to remove bloatware .see link