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Why do U.S. variants of the s3 not get exynos?

this had been bugging me and now when i decide to look into it, all of the google searches are raped by news of the s4 and not answering my question. so with that said, why do all of the U.S. samsung devices get the qualcomm chips instead of the exynos processors from samsung? it just doesn't make sense to me as to why they would switch them up. o.0 and it bugs me more that the qualcomm chips (while still fast as a bat out of hell) are slower than the exynos chips that are in the international phones..

It was one of two options:
Go with the exynos, then have an external radio for the LTE resulting in worse battery life or...
Go with the dual core snapdragon that had the capabilities all on one chip.
It was tested and the actual real world performance was very similar between the two, so the option they chose gave us the best performance with the best battery while maintaining access to LTE.
A similar situation appears to be occurring on the S4. The Note II came with a quad core chip with LTE.... so our S4's will most likely be the same to get LTE. The Octo exynos is not ready for the LTE inclusion YET. By the time the "Note 3" is out, it might be ready for prime time.

jdogg836 said:
It was one of two options:
Go with the exynos, then have an external radio for the LTE resulting in worse battery life or...
Go with the dual core snapdragon that had the capabilities all on one chip.
It was tested and the actual real world performance was very similar between the two, so the option they chose gave us the best performance with the best battery while maintaining access to LTE.
A similar situation appears to be occurring on the S4. The Note II came with a quad core chip with LTE.... so our S4's will most likely be the same to get LTE. The Octo exynos is not ready for the LTE inclusion YET. By the time the "Note 3" is out, it might be ready for prime time.
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thanks for the info but you would think that they would have included lte while designing the exynos octa considering lte isn't exactly a new technology anymore oh well. my contract is still a year and 4 months from ending and im perfectly content with my s3. maybe they will have it figured out by the s5 haha

The U.S. variant won't be getting the octo-core? Wow.
Just goes to show how much Samsung cares about their customers. I mean this was one of the biggest complaints when the S3 came out. You think they would have taken it with a grain of salt and maybe thought about it when coming up with the s4...

A-Shin said:
The U.S. variant won't be getting the octo-core? Wow.
Just goes to show how much Samsung cares about their customers. I mean this was one of the biggest complaints when the S3 came out. You think they would have taken it with a grain of salt and maybe thought about it when coming up with the s4...
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If Samsung didn't care about there customers you would just get another dual core processor phone. It will either come with Octo or quad core. Regardless of which one it actually comes with, it's gonna be an upgrade
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A-Shin said:
The U.S. variant won't be getting the octo-core? Wow.
Just goes to show how much Samsung cares about their customers. I mean this was one of the biggest complaints when the S3 came out. You think they would have taken it with a grain of salt and maybe thought about it when coming up with the s4...
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Most customers don't buy their phone because of benchmarks or boasting rights about how many cores it has. I don't care what processor it has as long as it has good battery life and isn't laggy.

poit said:
Most customers don't buy their phone because of benchmarks or boasting rights about how many cores it has. I don't care what processor it has as long as it has good battery life and isn't laggy.
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That's true. I there's a [floating] statistic that like only 12% of people root/jail break their phones anyway; so on that statistic, the other 88% is just based on surface features and shinyness. I bet if you asked most people they couldn't tell you what kind of processor is in the phone.

Why Snapdragon 855 variant is ONLY available within U.S

Once again us within the UK and the rest of the world are stuck with the subpar exynos variant.
We all know that the newer exynos version has been terrible in terms of power efficiency ever since the Galaxy S9. Adding further misery, Samsung provides only U.S. limited warranty, which is a joke for a company as big as Samsung.
Just ordered a Xiaomi Mi 9

u also get a 10h SoT with the exynos... and i can unlock it...

mulkman said:
Once again us within the UK and the rest of the world are stuck with the subpar exynos variant.
We all know that the newer exynos version has been terrible in terms of power efficiency ever since the Galaxy S9. Adding further misery, Samsung provides only U.S. limited warranty, which is a joke for a company as big as Samsung.
Just ordered a Xiaomi Mi 9
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Subpar?
Dude they need to actually thorthle down Exynos power to match Snapdragon to be exact.
On S8 exyons is able to record longer with higher frame rate and higher resolution then snapdragon but they disable it so snapdragon could match up

mulkman said:
Once again us within the UK and the rest of the world are stuck with the subpar exynos variant.
We all know that the newer exynos version has been terrible in terms of power efficiency ever since the Galaxy S9. Adding further misery, Samsung provides only U.S. limited warranty, which is a joke for a company as big as Samsung.
Just ordered a Xiaomi Mi 9
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I ordered the S10e for £500 Snapdragon variant from eGlobal. Beats the Mi 9 every single way except the battery size

electrash said:
Subpar?
Dude they need to actually thorthle down Exynos power to match Snapdragon to be exact.
On S8 exyons is able to record longer with higher frame rate and higher resolution then snapdragon but they disable it so snapdragon could match up
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This was true for the s8, but the OP is correct with S9/S10.
If Samsung truly dialed back newer exynos variants, they went too far because the snapdragon variant outperforms it by significant margin.

So if I bought the snapdragon variant in europe via eglobal, I won't be able to root it or am I wrong?

DKzVeNgEnS said:
So if I bought the snapdragon variant in europe via eglobal, I won't be able to root it or am I wrong?
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Snapdragon hasn't been rooted since the s8

electrash said:
Subpar?
Dude they need to actually thorthle down Exynos power to match Snapdragon to be exact.
On S8 exyons is able to record longer with higher frame rate and higher resolution then snapdragon but they disable it so snapdragon could match up
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That's ridiculous. They are not doing that.

There's nothing subpar, they need Qualcomm because the USA is stuck in the stone age with their CDMA, Qualcomm is also impeding technological evolution by exploiting patent loopholes in countries with badly made law systems such as that, Qualcomm needs to die.
So far Snapdragons have vastly inferior battery life(have a look at the funny thread), 2/3 of the single core performance and 3 to 4 times higher memory delay, even the first iteration of ddr3 performs better.
But yeah have fun with your Chinese flagship I guess, let the fake Antutu scores keep you warm

fernando sor said:
That's ridiculous. They are not doing that.
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I am kinda amazed that you don't know that since you are in the phone's now more than me. But anyway this is the quote from some of the sites that you can find with Google.
Although the camera sensors on last year’s Samsung flagships were capable pf it, it was only this year that Samsung switched on 4K/60p video recording. Because it is only with the Snapdragon 845 that Qualcomm finally supported that feature too. That said, last year’s Samsung Exynos 8895 were already capable of that high resolution, high frame rate recording. But to play fair with Snapdragon 835 variants, Samsung disabled the feature.
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The Exynos 9820, like previous Exynos chips, has better video recording capabilities than the competing Snapdragon chip. The 9820, for example, can record 8K videos at 30 fps (frames per second) and 4K videos at 150 fps. The Snapdragon 855, meanwhile, seems to only support 4K recording at 60 fps like the Snapdragon 845, which means Samsung is unlikely to offer [email protected] fps or [email protected] fps in any market. The 855 does, however, get the ability to record HDR videos, something Samsung isn’t confirming or denying for the 9820 just yet.
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It's probably a lot to do with cost.
Qualcomm have Samsung over a barrel. They basically have to use the Snapdragon for the US devices, for the CDMA chipsets for the US networks that still use CDMA. It was either that or use Exynos chipset with Qualcomm radios, which Qualcomm were going to charge a fortune for.
And the rest of the world (except a couple of Asian countries) get Exynos, probably because it's cheaper. And developed by Samsung, so they have complete control over it.

It is also available as SM-G9750/DS (China version sourced from Hong Kong)

LRiley said:
Snapdragon hasn't been rooted since the s8
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Thats not true.
The HK and latin America snaps are rootable- no locked BL.

force70 said:
Thats not true.
The HK and latin America snaps are rootable- no locked BL.
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They're also middle-range busy markets that couldn't care less about Samsung flagships, so those units are almost nonexistent.

electrash said:
I am kinda amazed that you don't know that since you are in the phone's now more than me. But anyway this is the quote from some of the sites that you can find with Google.
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Wow I'm kind of amazed you would do virtually zero research. Based on anantech scores the Samsung varient is behind in virtually every category and also trailing the 845 version in many categories.
And just so you know I've done nothing with phones for years. I did write a few apps but I've not had the time in a while so I'm very out of it loop. I just know that Qualcomm is not behind Samsung in chip making. They are also better optimized and more power efficient.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14031/samsung-galaxy-s10-first-exynos-9820-vs-snapdragon-855-scores

fernando sor said:
Wow I'm kind of amazed you would do virtually zero research. Based on anantech scores the Samsung varient is behind in virtually every category and also trailing the 845 version in many categories.
And just so you know I've done nothing with phones for years. I did write a few apps but I've not had the time in a while so I'm very out of it loop. I just know that Qualcomm is not behind Samsung in chip making. They are also better optimized and more power efficient.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14031/samsung-galaxy-s10-first-exynos-9820-vs-snapdragon-855-scores
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Then we agree that we disagree. I know potential of Exynos is more capable of Snapdragon in terms of camera department. They are similar of course I can't say one is better then the other. And to be honest for me few thousand points more on some bench doesn't mean a penny. It will load app 0.1 sec faster, do I need it? No. Would I like better camera like 4K 150fps well kinda yes but still to be honest kinda not worthy cuz I still record 1080p 60fps.
No bad feelings man, I wish you all the best just a little argumentative conversation ?

sille said:
u also get a 10h SoT with the exynos... and i can unlock it...
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Where is the 10 hr SoT from? I'm seeing some threads saying battery drain is a issue for the Exynos versions

GunGirlYuna said:
Where is the 10 hr SoT from? I'm seeing some threads saying battery drain is a issue for the Exynos versions
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Look in the review section, then battery thread. Multiple screenshots where Exy hits 10hrs. Take that as you will.

electrash said:
Subpar?
Dude they need to actually thorthle down Exynos power to match Snapdragon to be exact.
On S8 exyons is able to record longer with higher frame rate and higher resolution then snapdragon but they disable it so snapdragon could match up
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I guess this is a good reason to unlock and root to get a custom kernel with an overclock at some point!
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Corv0 said:
They're also middle-range busy markets that couldn't care less about Samsung flagships, so those units are almost nonexistent.
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Who buys them really isnt important the fact that they are easily purchased on Ebay is important. In that sense they exist in abundance.
What's almost nonexistent is development other than twrp and root for said devices.

Snapdragon vs exynos: A long time joke from Samsung.

I wonder what is people point of view regarding this long time issue. The exynos 9825 is by far a worse soc compared to snapdragon 855. It can maybe be compared with an almost 2 year old soc, the snapdragon 845.
This is simply unacceptable. The exynos and the snapdragon variants are equally priced and the former underperforms heavily for 3rd year in a row.
I am not upgrading to note 10 plus, will stick to my exynos note9 and wait for a proper flagship with a 855 or 855+.
I suspect that Samsung did not put the 855+ because the difference in benchmarks would be ridiculously different between exynos 9825 and 855+ variant.

Samsung is never going to put a Snapdragon outside US on flagships

Akram. said:
Samsung is never going to put a Snapdragon outside US on flagships
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My Note 8 in India has a Snapdragon

pittas said:
I wonder what is people point of view regarding this long time issue. The exynos 9825 is by far a worse soc compared to snapdragon 855. It can maybe be compared with an almost 2 year old soc, the snapdragon 845.
This is simply unacceptable. The exynos and the snapdragon variants are equally priced and the former underperforms heavily for 3rd year in a row.
I am not upgrading to note 10 plus, will stick to my exynos note9 and wait for a proper flagship with a 855 or 855+.
I suspect that Samsung did not put the 855+ because the difference in benchmarks would be ridiculously different between exynos 9825 and 855+ variant.
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Oh come on already, yes it's worse than the SD one, by a couple percent. Battery life is good this time around, random drain seems to be fixed. This is like reading a Reddit rant where people riot because it only has 1000 nits of peak brightness while my torch has thrice of that.

ronak_1078 said:
My Note 8 in India has a Snapdragon
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thats odd , mine is Exynos , Are you sure you bought indian variant ?

mine has been performing great so far I don't know what you're talking about ahahah I'm going to test battery life better today so we'll see

PLUG313 said:
mine has been performing great so far I don't know what you're talking about ahahah I'm going to test battery life better today so we'll see
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That's good for you, it's a subjective perception.
I never had problems either with my exynos note9 but that adds nothing to the conversation.
Its 3 years in a row that the exynos variant underperforms greatly compared to the snapdragon and I am tired of tossing 1000$ and receive an inferior product.

pittas said:
That's good for you, it's a subjective perception.
I never had problems either with my exynos note9 but that adds nothing to the conversation.
Its 3 years in a row that the exynos variant underperforms greatly compared to the snapdragon and I am tired of tossing 1000$ and receive an inferior product.
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Why do there have to be two variants anyway? Why do they bother to go with two?
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Isn't Samsung working with AMD or someone to improve you performance. If that happens it should keep up well with Qualcomm. it's that Mali from ARM that slows things down.

chetly968 said:
Isn't Samsung working with AMD or someone to improve you performance. If that happens it should keep up well with Qualcomm. it's that Mali from ARM that slows things down.
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Correct. But this new soc ain't coming before 2021.
It's 2019 and samsung released a 1100+$ phone without flagship specs, this exynos soc can maybe compete with last year's snapdragon 845, not 855 and much less with 855+.
It's a bad joke and huge letdown.

pittas said:
I wonder what is people point of view regarding this long time issue. The exynos 9825 is by far a worse soc compared to snapdragon 855. It can maybe be compared with an almost 2 year old soc, the snapdragon 845.
This is simply unacceptable. The exynos and the snapdragon variants are equally priced and the former underperforms heavily for 3rd year in a row.
I am not upgrading to note 10 plus, will stick to my exynos note9 and wait for a proper flagship with a 855 or 855+.
I suspect that Samsung did not put the 855+ because the difference in benchmarks would be ridiculously different between exynos 9825 and 855+ variant.
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On what basis are you saying that Note 10 exynos equal to SD 845 in performance? please don't tell you you watch this nonsense speed test g!
See antutu score s10 SD vs note 10 exynos attached

What matters to me is the smoothness and daily performance. My Note10+ with Exonys 9825 feels snappier and has less lag than my Pixel 3XL with SD 845. Perhaps because it's brand new, I don't know.

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pittas said:
That's good for you, it's a subjective perception.
I never had problems either with my exynos note9 but that adds nothing to the conversation.
Its 3 years in a row that the exynos variant underperforms greatly compared to the snapdragon and I am tired of tossing 1000$ and receive an inferior product.
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3 years?
It all started last year, 4 times in a row, so far. Prior to S9, Exynos was not inferior to SD.
It's to do with the CPU architecture, that needs a change and only time will tell, possibly starting with the S11 or above.

Or don't pay attention to what america has?
You've got the ability to root to your hearts content with the exynos chip. Americas are pretty limited in that regard.
I'm not sure what difference it really makes to you if you've been using exynos chips for the past few years as it's an upgrade to what you've been using regardless.
Coming from a note 8 to the note 10+ was a huge and I mean huge difference to me.

Virgo_Guy said:
3 years?
It all started last year, 4 times in a row, so far. Prior to S9, Exynos was not inferior to SD.
It's to do with the CPU architecture, that needs a change and only time will tell, possibly starting with the S11 or above.
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I'm not going to argue about the n10+ as I have the US version and haven't had an exynos since the Galaxy Tab s2, which I immediately upgraded to the SD version of that tablet, so I can say that well over 3 years ago this was a problem. The GT S2 on the SD was SOOO much better.

I get what the OP is saying though, It is like buying a car and finding out the next door neighbour got a turbo on his stock model while yours is just a plain old engine...
It is annoying that Samsung has this diversity in it's models and while yes, you have upgraded from like to like, it does seem unfair that someone else has a "better" version but paid the same (or less) than you did...
I know here in Oz it is frustrating seeing what other countries get , 1 Note 10+ and a Note 10 for the price of a Note 10 + and other pe-order deals.
With my pre-order Note 9, here in Oz, I got a wireless charger while o'seas people were getting a 512gb SD card and more... Where is the fairness in that Samsung?
So, even though I have a brand spanking new toy it leaves a bitter taste of gall in your mouth to think you got less than what others have and paying the same price....

Hoping for Anandtech to. do a Note 10 review with a E8925 to see if Samsung made some progress on Exynos' traditional slow ramp up of cpu mhz. Saw this and A76/M4 are not handing Geekbench 5 workload/weighting well.
https://twitter.com/andreif7/status/1164927585471598594

gottahavit said:
I'm not going to argue about the n10+ as I have the US version and haven't had an exynos since the Galaxy Tab s2, which I immediately upgraded to the SD version of that tablet, so I can say that well over 3 years ago this was a problem. The GT S2 on the SD was SOOO much better.
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We are talking about smartphones and not about 5 year old tablets. The Exynos variants of those tabs were from 2015 and SD were from 2016, ofcourse "upgraded".

pittas said:
I wonder what is people point of view regarding this long time issue. The exynos 9825 is by far a worse soc compared to snapdragon 855. It can maybe be compared with an almost 2 year old soc, the snapdragon 845.
This is simply unacceptable. The exynos and the snapdragon variants are equally priced and the former underperforms heavily for 3rd year in a row.
I am not upgrading to note 10 plus, will stick to my exynos note9 and wait for a proper flagship with a 855 or 855+.
I suspect that Samsung did not put the 855+ because the difference in benchmarks would be ridiculously different between exynos 9825 and 855+ variant.
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Agree. :good:

Exynos 990 vs Snapdragon 865

Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?

Guitarfreak26 said:
Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?
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Snapdragon 855+ Galaxy Fold(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 11150
QRD865(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 10247
QRD865(Performance)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 12524
Exynos 990 S20Ultra(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 11823

Guitarfreak26 said:
Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?
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I also have the iPhone 11 Pro Max and coming back to Android and too be honest the Exynos VS SD865 does not really bother me, the performance is slower than the SD865 and possibly battery life (specially in standby) may not be the same, but the screen, camera, design, openness of Android more than make up for that I reckon.
Last time I had a Galaxy was the S10 and that was a very nice phone and my only gripe back then was the really poor signal quality so if this is resolved in the S20 Ultra then I am a happy.
You could of course import it if you must have the SD version.

Gadgetsboy on Twitter already discussing the poor battery life on Exynos models... And so it begins lol

Exynos was bad last year on the s10 plus but did get better with updates, eventually swapped for the p30 Pro which is a beast, I too am hoping it's better this year, why can't they all be snapdragon?

russellcausier said:
Exynos was bad last year on the s10 plus but did get better with updates, eventually swapped for the p30 Pro which is a beast, I too am hoping it's better this year, why can't they all be snapdragon?
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1) Not enough production.
2) Samsung makes a better profit from Exynos.
3) diversification is good, some years Qualcomm is better, some years Qualcomm is the SD810.

This was my initial question, as exynos has historically been crap.
Namely the GPU being underpowered compared to the same gen Adreno.
I've heard that the exynos / Mali this time is 20% faster, but that tells me nothing, I've also read that even South Korea has gone for the 865 which to me speaks volumes.
Not sure what all this would do for development, I've been away from Samsung since the S5 and note 4, I just couldn't deal with the exynos and it's sub par GPU, as I use emulators from time to time and the Adreno just works, plus you get driver updates.
If the new Mali is comparable to the Adreno (newest) then I'd think about getting this phone.
But my decision would hang on that and the aforementioned crap battery.
Have heard that this may be the last exynos too but couldn't confirm that.

Just wait for Gary explains YouTube channel to make a comparison between the two versions.
I guess the Snapdragon its going to be around 16% to 20% faster than the exynos.
https://youtu.be/MgRnbm9wrzg

You won't likely notice the performance difference. But you will notice the horrible standby battery drain. Overnight, my exynos S20U drop 7% in airplane mode. Compare that to just 1% for my Asus ROG Phone II (not in airplane). But still better than exynos S10+ (10% overnight).

I’m hoping it gets fixed with software updates. Was still on the fence about moving over even though I pre ordered. The battery life on the 11 pro max is absolutely insane, still debating whether it’s worth losing that lol
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Would an imported phone with Snapdragon work fine on European networks? I'm seriously considering importing the damn phone due to that Exynos nonsense..

Diaoul said:
Would an imported phone with Snapdragon work fine on European networks? I'm seriously considering importing the damn phone due to that Exynos nonsense..
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I'm in the same situation - considering getting the HK variant (G9880) which supports pretty much all of the 4G/5G network channels..
I had the S10+ 855 in Australia on Vodafone and it was magic. well over 50mbits+ more download speed than the Exynos too..

Yup I imported snapdragon variant unlocked. Working flawlessly

Zak0071 said:
Yup I imported snapdragon variant unlocked. Working flawlessly
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Where from?

Guitarfreak26 said:
Where from?
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Just use Wondamobile like always.

gavinfabl said:
Just use Wondamobile like always.
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Not shipping until 24th Got a exynos ordered from JL for now... Keep wondering whether to cancel or not

Guitarfreak26 said:
Not shipping until 24th Got a exynos ordered from JL for now... Keep wondering whether to cancel or not
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Don’t cancel. The phone is belter. The noise out there is just noise. Look at it this way, find a phone as a package that has hardware and software as good as, as capable as this phone.

gavinfabl said:
Don’t cancel. The phone is belter. The noise out there is just noise. Look at it this way, find a phone as a package that has hardware and software as good as, as capable as this phone.
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Did you move from your Max? haha

Guitarfreak26 said:
Did you move from your Max? haha
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Lol I’ve had a few phones. iPhone 11 Pro has my main sim at the moment. Hoping the Ultra takes over though.

I think this whole exynos thing is overblown, yes there are differences in battery standby etc but surely having a UK warranty, ability to go to a samsung centre for any repairs, resale value is more important?

Is buying a Note 10+ Exynos worth it in 2022?

I know the Exynos version gets a lot of hate but i plan on buying it so i can root and run custom roms.
Is it still a good phone?
I hate how skinny phones are now and the 10+ has the perfect size screen.
Big screen+custom roms sounds like a win for me.

PS. I don't use my phone for video games.

Yeah, still a good phone. If you're in the u.s you could buy Snapdragon U or U1 and pay a fee to get unlocked bootloader/root.
I personally bought the SM-N9750/ds at release so i could root it (U and U1 didn't have ability to be rooted then). But there are 0 roms for this model, so for rom flashing if you want Snapdragon you could do that, or the exynos....
Check the "bounty" thread for the U & U1 version if you're interested and can learn about the process/cost

louforgiveno said:
Yeah, still a good phone. If you're in the u.s you could buy Snapdragon U or U1 and pay a fee to get unlocked bootloader/root.
I personally bought the SM-N9750/ds at release so i could root it (U and U1 didn't have ability to be rooted then). But there are 0 roms for this model, so for rom flashing if you want Snapdragon you could do that, or the exynos....
Check the "bounty" thread for the U & U1 version if you're interested and can learn about the process/cost
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Thanks for the reply. I'm in the u.s. so the bounty thread is something I'll check out.

Hell yeah.
My oldest N10+ N975U is over 2.5 yo still running on Pie. Heavily used but looks and runs like new. The only repair was a battery replacement.
A bought a new N975U1running on Android 10 5 months ago... that's how much I like this gorgeous work horse of a phone.
The Snapdragon variants all have the copper phase vapor heat sinks. Get the 12gb ram variant, the 5G variant will probably eat more battery. Use Android 9 or 10, I wouldn't go any higher.
They will run very well stock if optimized... just saying. New factory sealed ones can still be found stateside both cpu's versions for about $800.

Thanks for the replies guys! I'm definitely buying one now.

The Beast vs S22 Ultra.

BEAST
Another reason i love the Note 10+ is i'm so tired of the rounded edge 19.5:9 ratio phones.

jaydm0thr3e said:
BEAST
Another reason i love the Note 10+ is i'm so tired of the rounded edge 19.5:9 ratio phones.
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Indeed. Don't want the retro CRT look
The 10+ more display vs bezel area too.
The S22U looks clunky side by side with the 10+.

For equivalent of USD$178, I just bought a used Exynos version here in Thailand. Minor crack bottom right corner (can't even be seen in dark mode). Slapped a UV glued tempered glass on it to make sure crack doesn't spread out. 12GB/512GB version. It's running great! Lasted 2 full days on LTE. I'm happy.

blackhawk said:
The Beast vs S22 Ultra.
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Yup. Even at 60Hz the Note 10+ looks way better than the S22 "Ultra" LOL. That extra 4GB makes a big difference in the responsiveness of the UI.
The 10 series (S10* Note10*) are the last great Samsung phones to have ever been made. I own an S10+ Snappy and now a N10+ Exxy. I will hang on to both until they either die completely or 4G LTE becomes obsolete. I feel like as long as there are replacement batteries, I can keep these things running another 7 years!

audaciousnomad said:
Yup. Even at 60Hz the Note 10+ looks way better than the S22 "Ultra" LOL. That extra 4GB makes a big difference in the responsiveness of the UI.
The 10 series (S10* Note10*) are the last great Samsung phones to have ever been made. I own an S10+ Snappy and now a N10+ Exxy. I will hang on to both until they either die completely or 4G LTE becomes obsolete. I feel like as long as there are replacement batteries, I can keep these things running another 7 years!
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The N10+ rocks. Not even close to tired of using it. A beautiful, powerful, well balanced Note.
4G should be around until at least the end of this decade. It's not separate from 5G but integrated into that protocol able to run side by side with it, 3G wasn't. Because of it's greater bandwidth, 4 LTE/HD support that 3G lacked as well better obstacle penetration/range/low bandwidth efficiency than 5G, 4G LTE will likely be around for the life of these phones.

blackhawk said:
The N10+ rocks. Not even close to tired of using it. A beautiful, powerful, well balanced Note.
4G should be around until at least the end of this decade. It's not separate from 5G but integrated into that protocol able to run side by side with it, 3G wasn't. Because of it's greater bandwidth, 4 LTE/HD support that 3G lacked as well better obstacle penetration/range/low bandwidth efficiency than 5G, 4G LTE will likely be around for the life of these phones.
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Yes! I forgot to mention the light weight and thinness of the Note 10 as well. Everything about this phone rocks!

Since this got bumped..
Still loving my note 10+
I kinda wish I bought the exynos version so i could unlock the bootloader and put roms on it. But the snapdragon on Android 11 is super fast.