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[Q] Is it recommendable to buy a HOX now?

I'm worried about the issues plaguing the device, have the updates and latest software fixed some of the issues? Overheating, screen ripples, draining battery etc?

those production issues have been fixed more than a month ago, if u like the phone, jump on without aby fears, ull love it here
overheating is within acceptable range eith custom kernels, and future releases by nvidia and htc are bound to solve this issue further
battery life has been quite good too, but this is suvjective and depends on ur usage
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KLUVJ said:
those production issues have been fixed more than a month ago, if u like the phone, jump on without aby fears, ull love it here
overheating is within acceptable range eith custom kernels, and future releases by nvidia and htc are bound to solve this issue further
battery life has been quite good too, but this is suvjective and depends on ur usage
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful What about lag and the multi tasking issue? Did HTC fix that or are they still forcing us to accept reloading pages as a new standard for conserving ram and battery?
I haven't used an HTC phone for quite some time now and although Samsung has been really really nice, it's not as satisfying as owning an HTC

kingofthebraves said:
I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful What about lag and the multi tasking issue? Did HTC fix that or are they still forcing us to accept reloading pages as a new standard for conserving ram and battery?
I haven't used an HTC phone for quite some time now and although Samsung has been really really nice, it's not as satisfying as owning an HTC
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that is a sense issue. currently, all non sense roms dont hace that issue.hopefully, htc will push the new release out with a multitask fix, as they already fixed the live wallpaper issue.
lag is nonexistant on roms, really, blazing fast, i have never seen sense this fast, all due to the viper rom and the faux experimental oc kernel.
all problems are pretty much fixed in roms, and hopefully, htc will step up their game asap and release their 404 update. its been confirmed to drop in the following 2 weeks
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KLUVJ said:
that is a sense issue. currently, all non sense roms dont hace that issue.hopefully, htc will push the new release out with a multitask fix, as they already fixed the live wallpaper issue.
lag is nonexistant on roms, really, blazing fast, i have never seen sense this fast, all due to the viper rom and the faux experimental oc kernel.
all problems are pretty much fixed in roms, and hopefully, htc will step up their game asap and release their 404 update. its been confirmed to drop in the following 2 weeks
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Thank you. One last thing, is the wifi problem related to hardware or just software? I'm referring to the one wherein you press the upper right hand corner of the screen and the wifi signal gets stronger.
You mentioned all problems being fixed on custom roms, what about stock roms?

kingofthebraves said:
Thank you. One last thing, is the wifi problem related to hardware or just software? I'm referring to the one wherein you press the upper right hand corner of the screen and the wifi signal gets stronger.
You mentioned all problems being fixed on custom roms, what about stock roms?
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hardware. and its not really a bad thing too, cant understand why people stress over it. stock currently has pretty good battery life, its just the three dot menu that needs a fix.the very soon to be released 404 update will resolve all that and bring a lot more enhancements to the table.
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hardware. and its not really a bad thing too, cant understand why people stress over it. stock currently has pretty good battery life, its just the three dot menu that needs a fix.the very soon to be released 404 update will resolve all that and bring a lot more enhancements to the table.
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I agree with KLUVJ that this phone is really good except of that one issue i have with push email on the sense email client. However if you do use the gmail app or any other 3rd party app like maildroid, i think you are fine.
I find that the phone overheat a little more than the iphone but within acceptable range. Tried viper rom yesterday and i was amazed! the amount of settings you could do to tweak the phone is just unbelievable.
Hope you can join the group here!

Versa23 said:
I agree with KLUVJ that this phone is really good except of that one issue i have with push email on the sense email client. However if you do use the gmail app or any other 3rd party app like maildroid, i think you are fine.
I find that the phone overheat a little more than the iphone but within acceptable range. Tried viper rom yesterday and i was amazed! the amount of settings you could do to tweak the phone is just unbelievable.
Hope you can join the group here!
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Regarding the wifi issue, are there phones with no problems? I've been reading up and it seems that HTC is accepting units for repair if you do have this issue, correct?
Lastly, what's the real deal with the battery life? I've read through a gazillion posts with some claiming it sucks and is below the gs3, others are praising it and saying it can beat the iphone 4 and 4s which I say is almost impossible for android. GSMarena rates the battery life of the hox 6 hrs below the GS3 with video playback at a paltry 6hrs only

kingofthebraves said:
I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful
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I got mine the same way, and it's fine.
It had the wifi "grip of life" issue and a duff speaker, but I got it repaired by HTC and all is well now.

kingofthebraves said:
Regarding the wifi issue, are there phones with no problems? I've been reading up and it seems that HTC is accepting units for repair if you do have this issue, correct?
Lastly, what's the real deal with the battery life? I've read through a gazillion posts with some claiming it sucks and is below the gs3, others are praising it and saying it can beat the iphone 4 and 4s which I say is almost impossible for android. GSMarena rates the battery life of the hox 6 hrs below the GS3 with video playback at a paltry 6hrs only
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There are phones with no problems. But excessive checking for the problem i.e pushing the part between volume and cam with force again and again can actually create the problem. Yes htc is accepting units for repair.
Battery life opinion will be as different as genetic code lol. Here's mine.
Some custom roms give even better battery life than others. My phone lasts a day on full charge with me having made about 30 minutes of calls, lots of whatsapp messages, web-browsing, tweeting, etc.
I get an average of 2 hours 50 minutes of screen on time.
Say you don't touch the phone for 7-8 hours maybe your sleeping or whatever, the battery would have drained only about 2-3%. That's with data/wifi and cell reception on. Incredible Standby Time.
When you do use the phone the battery flies away like crazy . I have to fully charge my phone once a day.

what about the latest batches HT26 and SH27. what is the probability of those models to be defective (hardware issue).

Honestly, if you think we are having issues, you best check out the SGS3 forums lol.
Dude i got my HOX the day it became available in my country, i was well aware of the potential issues and luckily i got a defect free unit.
I used it as a stock device for about 2 weeks and was very impressed with battery life and overall smoothness, honestly you dont need to root a HOX to get the best out of the device, it holds its own pretty well.
I rooted because I am used to the luxury of Titanium Backup, Super User apps that I have purchased and because i dont like to wait for OS updates lol.
Why wait on a carrirer when i know how to do it myself and what Team PkmN was doing with charmeleon ROM was waaaay to tempting to just sit and watch from the side lines and miss out on the action lol, truth be told that ROM was the main reason i took the plunge.
I consider myself a power user and would recommend ViperX and Faux 005 beta 1 kernel, that is if your going to root.

Thank you for the input everyone I appreciate it. I do hope I get one without issues

How is battery life on your Pixel XL? (Oreo 8.1.0)

I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks

jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot

liam_davenport said:
Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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Same thoughts, except its not Oreo which has degraded the backup, but 8.1 specifically which totally ****ed it up.

liam_davenport said:
Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.

richii0207 said:
That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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Tell that to Apple.

Shawn haz root said:
Tell that to Apple.
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Apple's reasoning of decreasing performance was to increase device battery longevity, not to increase sales of their next product. In fact, a dead battery which renders a phone unuseable is more likely going to present the idea of purchasing a new device versus someone who barely notices a slowdown in opening an app. I think it's more important to give a customer the option of calling emergency services through a slowdown phone versus a dead phone.
Their idea is great but implementation and transparency could have been better.
As a company, you don't give yourself premium status if you sell inferior products that easily get outdated.
TLDR: Apple products age very well, yet they still are able to empty shelves with their latest products.

I got my Pixel XL from Google as a replacement for a Nexus 6P last September. It came with Oreo 8.0.0* and I was thrilled with the battery life, especially after the dismal battery life of the 6P. After I updated to 8.1.0 in December, my battery now is at 30% at the end of an average day, instead of 50% with 8.0.0. I'm thinking of flashing back to the last versions of 8.0.0 and taking my chances with not having the security updates.
Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?

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Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?
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LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.

ithehappy said:
LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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I think that google tried to put too many features at once WITHOUT tweaking the features for battery. They are not like apple and if they are, they are a lot less strict with it. I applied some root tweaks and got about 6 hrs of SOT, I am having the same problem after the update, but history says that google's releases slowly patch underlying issues

ithehappy said:
LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?

In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform

jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Did any of you jokers even read what he said? He said 12 minutes SOT equals 4% battery. That's 5 hours SOT, in his estimation.
It is very likely that 4% battery in his statement is really 3% battery because his battery ticked down to a lower percent just after he noted the reading.
Now, 3% battery in 12 minutes of SOT is very normal for an optimized Pixel XL usage and medium screen brightness. That literally means 6 hours and 40 minutes of SOT. That is what anyone can get without going to extremes with optimizing battery usage.
The best I have ever gotten with Pixel XL was 6 minutes per 1% of battery or 10 hours SOT and that is just playing youtube videos on wifi with lowest brightness and nothing running in background.

richii0207 said:
Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?
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Let us believe what we choose to, you don't need to worry about our beliefs LoL. This belief didn't come from some children story book either, but based on what's been happening of late, a judgement based on real life results.
Why would someone keep buying a company's products? That's not a bright question really, cause even after LG's G3, G4, G5, N5X etc. phones which all had hardware problems people still bought their next releases, and that's just one example out of many. I myself even after knowing, complaining that Google once ****ed up the battery backup of Pixel 2016s deliberately will look into their Pixel 3 whenever it releases, simply because money doesn't matter to me that much, and I'm not even anywhere near that rich.

That battery life sounds fine tbh.

Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.

wazza1991 said:
Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.
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See the screenshot

I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.

fiverings said:
I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.
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8 hours SoT with 8.1, seems like a day dream for me.
My battery backup remains same, that is poor, still getting 4-5 hours SoT. A full hour less than what I used to get with 8.0. Device is around 8 months old.

Chance Ill said:
In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform
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Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you please tell us which custom ROM and kernel did you flash? Also, what the health of your battery on AccuBattery? Thank You.

My Battery Life
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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I have btw 6:30/7:30 hs of SoT and a day I had 8hs of SoT with netflix and 4g on and wifi too

Painfully bad wifi reception on HTC 10

Hi, I just got a new HTC 10, but I've encountered an issue with it - the wifi signal reception is a pure clown fiesta. My room is fairly far from the router, but even then I managed to get near perfect connection with my ~5 year old Samsung. With my new phone, I can't even open google play most of the time. Same router, nothing changed there
I've googled it up a bit, and some people suggested to force the 2.4Ghz band, but it's already the one I'm on. Do you guys have any other idea what to do?

LK255 said:
Hi, I just got a new HTC 10, but I've encountered an issue with it - the wifi signal reception is a pure clown fiesta. My room is fairly far from the router, but even then I managed to get near perfect connection with my ~5 year old Samsung. With my new phone, I can't even open google play most of the time. Same router, nothing changed there
I've googled it up a bit, and some people suggested to force the 2.4Ghz band, but it's already the one I'm on. Do you guys have any other idea what to do?
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Can't give feedback on 2.4 but i am on 5 Ghz and that is working fine. It still could perform better in my opinion but it is surely fast enough everywhere in the house to have a solid stable connection.
Did you try 5 Ghz ?

I'm not sure if my router allows that. Tbh I couldn't even find the band settings in the wifi settings - I'm on stock Oreo update :/

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I'm not sure if my router allows that. Tbh I couldn't even find the band settings in the wifi settings - I'm on stock Oreo update :/
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Well the 10 isn't very well known by its awesome Wi-Fi reception, it has been a discussion from the beginning but as far as i can see it it should be more than fine in standard conditions.
Another possibility is that it can be better on nougat than oreo but with an S-ON device it involves downgrading firmware by a pretty complicated tutorial (at least if you don't know anything about flashing, fastboot commands, basic android flashing)

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Well the 10 isn't very well known by its awesome Wi-Fi reception, it has been a discussion from the beginning but as far as i can see it it should be more than fine in standard conditions.
Another possibility is that it can be better on nougat than oreo but with an S-ON device it involves downgrading firmware by a pretty complicated tutorial (at least if you don't know anything about flashing, fastboot commands, basic android flashing)
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Well I've played around with the phone for a bit and found out a different problem - the battery is absolutely pathetic. With data/location on I get under 1 hour of SoT, which is waaaayy less than what I get with my current 5 year old 2600mAh device.
So I figured I'd actually try some of the custom ROM as people seem to like it - is there any 'easy tutorial' out there how to do the whole thing step by step? I've seen some tutorials how to do root, or how to flash, how to install stuff, but never quite all together... Even though I'm very anti-technical type, it seems like it's a last possibility since with this battery, the phone is borderline useless to me

You can find some info here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66714156&postcount=2
The first 2 video's explain basically how to unlock the bootloader and how to flash TWRP recovery. But check for updated files, the ones used in the video may be outdated by now.

Mr Hofs said:
You can find some info here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66714156&postcount=2
The first 2 video's explain basically how to unlock the bootloader and how to flash TWRP recovery. But check for updated files, the ones used in the video may be outdated by now.
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So if I understood it correctly... I must follow these three steps (unlock bootloader, Root the device, install TWRP recovery and "S off"), and after that I just download and install the things that people share on the forums, such as this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-16-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3851614 ?
Also do you (or anyone) have experience with some of the custom roms? Does the battery get significantly better? Right now I lose more than 1% per 1 minute of watching video on youtube which is a bummer

LK255 said:
So if I understood it correctly... I must follow these three steps (unlock bootloader, Root the device, install TWRP recovery and "S off"), and after that I just download and install the things that people share on the forums, such as this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-16-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3851614 ?
Also do you (or anyone) have experience with some of the custom roms? Does the battery get significantly better? Right now I lose more than 1% per 1 minute of watching video on youtube which is a bummer
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Unlock the bootloader
Flash TWRP
You do not need S-OFF specifically and you do not root the device, you give root access to the running OS ! Don't mix that up. A custom rom has root access 99% of the time.
Do NOT expect wonders to your battery, if you get less than 1 hour screen on time either the battery is bad or you have a massive drain on an app. The OS won't likely improve this behavior. So dont get your hopes up that it will be 2 or even 3 hours after flashing just a custom rom.
Getting more battery life is a combination of running the proper custom rom and a custom kernel with usually the according app to customize it. Don't expect it all to be good with one press on a button, this is all pretty advanced.

Hmm I don't really see any app draining it... As for the battery, the phone was apparently checked sometime in 2016 and left in the box ever since... I know it's rather specific technical question, but do you suppose it's possible that the battery degraded so much from just sitting in the box?

Well yes everything at this point can be a possibility, i see many reports lately about bad batteries. I must say mines still oke, i get around 4 hours SOT and it get's me through the day easily without charging it.
In my opinion, 1 hour SOT or less is pretty sure a bad battery and a custom rom and kernel might stretch that but 4 hours you will never reach.
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Hmm I don't really see any app draining it... As for the battery, the phone was apparently checked sometime in 2016 and left in the box ever since... I know it's rather specific technical question, but do you suppose it's possible that the battery degraded so much from just sitting in the box?
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wifi works well at my home on 5ghz and 2.4ghz
usually just use 4g though outside of home network, since im now on unlimited data plan
accubattery is a pretty sweet app.
says my battery is at 77%, which seems about right. I can also get around 3.5-4.5 hours SOT on Nougat crdroid.

andybones said:
wifi works well at my home on 5ghz and 2.4ghz
usually just use 4g though outside of home network, since im now on unlimited data plan
accubattery is a pretty sweet app.
says my battery is at 77%, which seems about right. I can also get around 3.5-4.5 hours SOT on Nougat crdroid.
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Yeah I was warned that battery life is a poor on Oreo update, but I couldn't quite figure out how to avoid the update when setting up the device... Yeah I actually got Accubattery myself, it shows that 1/3 of the battery is gonezo (2,069 MaH out of 3,000) straight out of box so it explains a lot.
I figured I'd try my luck with some of the custom ROM, but since I've never done it before I'm afraid I'm just going to brick my device... Still worth trying I guess :silly:

LK255 said:
Yeah I was warned that battery life is a poor on Oreo update, but I couldn't quite figure out how to avoid the update when setting up the device... Yeah I actually got Accubattery myself, it shows that 1/3 of the battery is gonezo (2,069 MaH out of 3,000) straight out of box so it explains a lot.
I figured I'd try my luck with some of the custom ROM, but since I've never done it before I'm afraid I'm just going to brick my device... Still worth trying I guess :silly:
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Nah, bricking is more on an ruu or messing with the aboot.img
Flashing a rom you should be fine. But I understand man.
I'm on AOSP N and getting decent battery with 77% battery, and this is from 80% charge. It's rare I charge above 80%
I've had my phone since release day.

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Yeah I was warned that battery life is a poor on Oreo update, but I couldn't quite figure out how to avoid the update when setting up the device... Yeah I actually got Accubattery myself, it shows that 1/3 of the battery is gonezo (2,069 MaH out of 3,000) straight out of box so it explains a lot.
I figured I'd try my luck with some of the custom ROM, but since I've never done it before I'm afraid I'm just going to brick my device... Still worth trying I guess :silly:
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WiFi is nothing to write home about, I gave up on 5ghz and use 2.4ghz as it reaches farther (more stable from 40ft distance to router).
I used to get up to 3hrs expected SOT (70%health) on the original battery per Accubattery, device was new, but sat on a shelf for a couple of years.
With new battery, expected SOT went to 4.5 hrs (100% health). It was worth the pain of opening it up and changing it (I also had to change the charge port, was causing ‘otg_default’ and ‘ohio_wakelock’ wakelocks eating into Sleep mode and reducing SOT indirectly.)
Check wakelocks with Betterbatterystats app, maybe you have similar issue.

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WiFi is nothing to write home about, I gave up on 5ghz and use 2.4ghz as it reaches farther (more stable from 40ft distance to router).
I used to get up to 3hrs expected SOT (70%health) on the original battery per Accubattery, device was new, but sat on a shelf for a couple of years.
With new battery, expected SOT went to 4.5 hrs (100% health). It was worth the pain of opening it up and changing it (I also had to change the charge port, was causing ‘otg_default’ and ‘ohio_wakelock’ wakelocks eating into Sleep mode and reducing SOT indirectly.)
Check wakelocks with Betterbatterystats app, maybe you have similar issue.
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Just curious, but do you have a link for the battery that you bought? I'm thinking of buying one but with all the ching brands to choose from I'm afraid I'm going to pick one that's going to explode and burn my house down with me in it :silly:

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Just curious, but do you have a link for the battery that you bought? I'm thinking of buying one but with all the ching brands to choose from I'm afraid I'm going to pick one that's going to explode and burn my house down with me in it :silly:
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It's all eBay stuff I buy, sometimes it's not perfect...
Anyway, I bought from "battery_expert" seller out of New Jersey, and got lucky.
Link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-ship-NE...000mAh-/173462237898?du=1&txnId=1952246227007

Phone seems generally smoother after October Security Update to me

So after nearly giving up in this phone after it being almost unusable between March -August ish... I found that the September update made it pretty good again...
And have had the October Security Update (and bug fixes it says) for a few days now, and I feel like this phone is back to how good it was when I first got it smoothness wise.
Liking it again, came so close to buying a pixel, but will save myself a few hundred quid and stay with this. I was also looking at putting on the Pixel Experience ROM, and may still do in the future, but the way the phone is now it feels fine as it is.
Anybody else think it has improved a lot the last 2 updates ?

I think it comes and goes. The other day I had a game stay in memory for over 4 hours despite using other apps, including a browser.
But the phone had only been running for a day at that point. It's generally closer to a week of uptime before things get really bad for me, but sometimes as short as 2 days.
If I reboot in the morning it's fine all day. I've been doing that a bit lately as a bit of pre-emptive maintenance...
These security updates will surely stop soon and then I'll jump onto a custom ROM. Or maybe get a Pixel 4a. But this phone is still fine when it's not killing apps randomly

Is it still running smooth at this time? Without restarting it?

I strongly disagree. My device still begs me to restart it after more than 24h of use.

No, laggy after about 10 hours of uptime.

I'm selling mine today. Shame about this, it was perfect phone for price. I will use Redmi S2 for now and buy Pixel 4a when prices drop.

Question Phone Overheating - Is There a Fix?

I'm on Android 13 and was hoping this would sort out the overheating problem I had with Android 12 (I read in a few places that it would), but it did not. The phone gets very warm when charging, and hot when streaming video, and just generally through simple use, nothing particularly demanding. I haven't rooted this phone because I did not see the need, but I would consider it if it was the only way to fix the problem. Is anyone experiencing the same, and does anyone have a solution?

I could be wrong but generally speaking in my experience, going from one major upgrade to another the phone works a bit harder to re-train itself to your use patterns. I just did my upgrade yesterday and experienced some slight to moderate heat as well. I also noticed that battery is draining a bit faster which I think again is part of the process. I'm going to give it a week or so and if I'm right it should improve.

I'm biased because I've had my Pixel 6 Pro rooted (and updated every month) since last November, and I also use Kirisakura custom kernel with its companion apps and currently have the one app set to the maximum battery savings.
So I can't really compare to 100% stock unrooted with the stock kernel, as I'm only briefly on the stock unrooted kernel each month after I manually flash the latest update.
Several others have commented, and I've experienced too, that with Android 13, we've no longer experienced as severe higher temperatures when charging. I don't remember if the others were rooted and using the same custom kernel, or if these were general Android 13 comments, so your mileage may vary. Sorry I can't give you any more concrete information.
Good luck!

Granted this is for my 4a5g but I wouln't be suprised if/when I get a 6 that its battery performance would be less than stellar after a good days use of phone and/or screen and radio/network. i.e. stock. Before I went to Lineage on my 4a5g I think my battery would cut a good 30-50+ percent each day. I put lineage on it and I poop you not, can go from a 75% to around 20% in about 5-6+ days. I tend to have my screen brightness around a little less than 1/4th on the slider bar.
When I had an HTC M8, after around 2 or so years (this was around 2016/7 or so. got phone oct '14) on the stock firmware the phone couln't keep it on for more than a day. Ran ViperRom for a bit then switched to cm/lineage and that stretched my usability of the phone another 5 years. It got to the point where the phone would shut off when it got to around %50 charge and go ding dong and turn off--without pluggin it in I had about 8 hours run time on it. My battery was beyond gone and no way would I have gotten that usability on the stock rom.
So, to answer your question, yes, trying different roms and kernels (rooting) could be to your advantage to prolong the life and performance of your phone.
Even if you choose to run the stock OS, with root, you could disble any bloat running in background. Kill any programs/services leeching CPU (and hence battery) cycles. You could definately make it run more efficient for YOU. Maybe not for the next guy who needs his facebook, twitter, ticktok apis and stuff loaded and at the ready. Everyone is different. But they tend to make the phones (they think) for everyone. in mind and as a result, device performance and lifespan become affected.

I definitely have heating issues and this is on a warranty exchange. The 2 previous P6Ps had all the same issues as this current device.

My phone was hot on A12 (41/45°) and since i clean flashed A13 and wiped it is cold (32/35°) for the same usage.

Greetings.
Good topic.
I have bought this phone a day before. I'm facing device heating even under simple tasks like scrolling messengers, browsing etc.
Previously I had OnePlus 7 Pro (Snapdragon 855), that one was cold all time except while charging or playing games.
However, Pixel looks warm or even hot even upon light using.
I'm a bit confused about that.
Is it a common problem of this device? Or probably exactly my device is affected?
I haven't faced overheating or alerts about that, however, it feels hot for my hands that got used to feel a cold phone while low load.
Currently, I have about 37-38 degrees while browsing on XDA and writing this post.
Just wondering that digits you have?

I did a warranty exchange on my P6P for a different issue and I'm glad I did. My replacement device has much better thermals than my original. My original one would get quite hot while charging and restoring apps and was almost uncomfortable to hold and to the touch. Could always try a warranty exchange and see if the replacement device is better for you. Also, Kiri kernel has been reported to help with the thermals. I've seen several reports of users commenting that their device runs cooler. Good luck!

I had heating issues and battery issues when I first received my P6P. Once I got it out of the box, I set it up and restored backups, rooted it, updated to android 13 without wiping, rooted again, and then flashed the Kirisakura kernel. I decided to try and flash android 13 again but keeping the -w flag to wipe userdata and didnt restore my backups and I've had amazing battery life and no overheating. If you haven't yet, try doing a factory reset. As simple as it sounds it may very well help

My fully stock P6P (on A12) gave an overheat warning yesterday while we were having a day out, it was only 22°C although we were in and out of the sun as the clouds rolled by but the phone was showing 46°C after being sat in my pocket.
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.

MrBelter said:
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro

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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Thing is I have never experienced overheating on any phone (that i have owned) in UK before, using an Exynos as the basis of Tensor and then whacking an extra big core in it was a pretty bad idea unless you live in a fridge.