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[Q] Anyone considering returning the E4GT due to bad battery life?

I am one of the unfortunate souls who is experiencing terrible battery life due to the AndroidOS bug. I feel like I spend half my waking hours trying to figure out what is causing it and doing different things to my phone improve my battery life.
I'm definitely getting sick of it and while I realize that Samsung/Sprint may eventually come out with a software update that fixes the problem, I'm not sure I'm willing to wait since it could take months (and the issue was supposedly fixed for GS2 phones in 2.3.4).
At this point, I'm considering going back to the Moto Photon--it's battery life is simply amazing. My only issue with the Moto is its unusable camera.
Anyone else getting as frustrated as I am and considering jumping ship to another phone?

What have you done to fix it?
Are you saying that you still have the bug even aftera factory reset ?

Why not just take it back and have them give you a new one since you obviously have a defective phone?
Also how many hours are you actually getting out of the battery?
I don't see any other phone worth switching to and I have had them all. Each with their own specific problem. But this one here is as good as it gets
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nabbed said:
What have you done to fix it?
Are you saying that you still have the bug even aftera factory reset ?
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I've tried just about everything that has been mentioned in the AndroidOS/battery life thread (reset, wifi, autosync) but I'm still getting only 12 hours of battery life on a good day, 8 hours on a bad day
I might try exchanging the phone, but I'm hesitant to do so due to the LOS bug (I have not experienced this with my phone as of yet).
Honestly, while I love the phone in many other ways, I'm about to throw the thing out the window since 8 hours of battery life is simply not acceptable to me

limeaid said:
but I'm still getting only 12 hours of battery life on a good day, 8 hours on a bad day
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That doesn't mean anything to me. What's the display on time? How good/bad is the cellular signal?

Exchange it bro. Ive had two of these phones so far and none had this problem. I'm getting like 24-30 hours battery with like 4-5 hours screen on time. This phone had awesome battery. Download an apps called better battery stats. This will show wakelocks and processes that are draining the battery. Good luck man.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

nabbed said:
That doesn't mean anything to me. What's the display on time? How good/bad is the cellular signal?
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On a good day, the display is on for less than 30-45 min. On a bad day, the phone display time is somewhere between 90-120 minutes.

I pulled 16 hours ojt of my battery yesterday with over 12 on wifi and i was at 40 percent. I have to use wifi at work as i have no signal and when i do get signal its roaming. I would say that my conditions at work are far from ideal but this phone is great. My old phone would die before 1130(evo shift).
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limeaid said:
On a good day, the display is on for less than 30-45 min. On a bad day, the phone display time is somewhere between 90-120 minutes.
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Yeah bro that's awful. I would take that back immediately. There is no sense in that. U definitely have a bug in that phone. Good luck.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.

madsquabbles said:
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
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I had the issue with the stock kernel and custom kernels. I'm just going to hold out until we can get a AOSP build and hope that using as little of Samsung's code fixes it.

madsquabbles said:
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
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I'm on stock and have nothing out of the ordinary installed. Out of curiosity, do you have a google account with full sync turned on?

Lol 8 12 hours isn't bad with a stock battery and 4.5 inch screen. If you are in a poor reception area it could be that. Otherwise you have alot of Apps running in the background.
My advice : root it and extended battery.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium

limeaid said:
I'm on stock and have nothing out of the ordinary installed. Out of curiosity, do you have a google account with full sync turned on?
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I average 15-20 hours easily on a charge, with a full sync google account
Everything Sync'd Listed below:
- Google+ Notifications
- Music
- Books
- Contacts
- Gmail
- Picasa Web Albums
- Calendar
If anything else can be Sync'd I have not run across it. I also have my Tapatalk set to notify me of PM's, and updates to Subscribed topics, I removed the accuweather widget because it only updates every 3 hours and installed Weatherbug Elite and set it to update every 30 minutes. On top of all that I browse the web regularly to visit sites that are websense'd at work, and I play dungeon hunter 2, and asphalt 6 on my lunch break. At home the phone sits on my desk until its time to pass out, only used for my Rift Mobile authenticator.

This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"

Why does the bug seem to affect the gs2 more than other phones? For example, I've never seen it mentioned on the photon forums
ajamer said:
This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
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Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA App

ajamer said:
This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
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I didn't have this problem on my evo and I don't have it on my gs2.
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i use my phone a lot while im at school throughout the day , i last using wifi and 3g, and if needed i can do a quick charge while i study in the car but i lasted to 60% using 3g for a few hours

ridiculous don't you think?

the kernel is bugged and also since its on 5.0 lollipop

What strikes me odd is that something else didn't drag it down. Then I see the stats are about apps only, which don't take into account cell standby or screen on time.
The key thing to look at is that your phone has been running for 5.5 hours there from full charge, and it only went down 7%. That means if you keep it up, you could run it for over 3 days without needing to recharge. Nothing wrong with that (in the new world order). That's what my old phone could do (sometimes 4 days), and it had a better mAh to screen size ratio than his device (2460mAh : 4" vs 3000mAh : 5.5"). I have yet to get those kinds of battery stats with this one (down to 70% by the day is done vs 80% with the other one).

Yeah. It's unthinkable that a company like Asus can't solve this problem fast enough. Maybe they didn't get the permission to put 5.1 on their phones yet

sirsomething said:
Yeah. It's unthinkable that a company like Asus can't solve this problem fast enough. Maybe they didn't get the permission to put 5.1 on their phones yet
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They definitely have "permission", Asus has been historically reliable with updates, but we'll see I guess.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD

cmendonc2 said:
They definitely have "permission", Asus has been historically reliable with updates, but we'll see I guess.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD
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Yeah, let's see. Meanwhile we spend our battery cycles like ****

I blame Google. They should never have released the buggy mess that is 5.0. Sometimes companies have no choice what to out on the phones....I'm sure Asus had this phone in the development pipeline with 5.0 as the target well before all the bugs of 5.0 were revealed. And the way Android relies on nearly full reimage for major updates is idiotic, and also Google's fault. 5.1.1 is essentially a different OS than 5.0

joel.maxuel said:
What strikes me odd is that something else didn't drag it down. Then I see the stats are about apps only, which don't take into account cell standby or screen on time.
The key thing to look at is that your phone has been running for 5.5 hours there from full charge, and it only went down 7%. That means if you keep it up, you could run it for over 3 days without needing to recharge. Nothing wrong with that (in the new world order). That's what my old phone could do (sometimes 4 days), and it had a better mAh to screen size ratio than his device (2460mAh : 4" vs 3000mAh : 5.5"). I have yet to get those kinds of battery stats with this one (down to 70% by the day is done vs 80% with the other one).
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the funny thing is my standby time is completely fine its when im using the phone that it drains fast I have amplify,greenify,powernap running and it still drains also did all thats possible to save as much battery as possible.
I also installed the Debloated Rom by Harfainx I know for sure that its lollipop 5.0 thats cause this problem cause every time I check the battery stats in settings Android OS is at 40-60%...... thats just ridiculous

The sooner we get 5.1.1 the better! Are you listening Asus?

They are shameless at the moment

Overheating --> Network/Device Lag? Marshmallow, M9

I know my way around Android well enough I could probably teach a class. I've been excited for the Marshmallow update for my Verizon M9, mostly for the security update. Now I've got it, and udderly hate it. Not only is this marshmallow über soft and squishy, it's somehow managed to swallow the majority of my CPU--much like BOB from Monsters vs Aliens. Actually, the update is more like BOB than a delicious couple of calories. Tremendous lag from god knows where, constant freezing and other **** when in hpm--whether it be plugged in or not--which often crashes apps altogether or causes a reboot, keyboard latency of about 1.5seconds, network disconnecting when the device exceeds 120℉, ooh!, and the cherry on top: loss of data. I use my phone for both business/class-related stuff and for gaming/pleasure(shh, creeps) because I'm too broke to buy anything else. The front-facing speakers get glitcy and doing that pausing crap like when you drive outta radio range in a car. This was never a problem with Lollipop, but is making Android a living hell to deal with. MHL has yet to work on Marshmallow, and instead simply crashes the phone. Again. Can't find ANYthing ANYwhere about this. Both Verizon and HTC are refusing to talk to me directly about it; keep getting passed to the next rep, who tries to put me through their template of troubleshooting steps. Wiping cache partition worked...for all of ten minutes. If that. HTC wants to take my phone for two weeks, which won't work due to classes.
Full stock M9. I use App Mgr III for new moving apps quickly, App Cache Cleaner because I'm lazy, and Greenify to kill some stuff that I've got, e.g., Ingress, Skype, snapchat. Greenify does NOT allow killing of bloatware/pre-installed crap, so let me tape the mouths of those twits shut now. Most pre-installed apps, including all but two of the Verizon things, are disabled.
The game I notice the most trouble on is Walking War Robots, can't tell if it has to do with graphics or the processor itself. Chrome browser is quite laggy; Drive is almost unresponsive as is Docs; have lost quite a bit of data from Microsoft Word, both saved and documents being worked on. Reception is also quite a bit worse with the Marshmallow update, calls being dropped more frequently and location often having trouble pinpointing me on high-accuracy.
As I do NOT have a computer, reseting the device is not an option. The recaptcha thingy took almost 30 seconds to load; on Lollipop, they took less than five.

I fully agree with you. My experience with marshmallow has only been negative so far.
1) Incredibly Laggy. Back in the day, installing a kitkat or lollipop rom, the phone would be super fluid and would only slightly lag when installing the 50 apps. God forbid when I was installing marshmallow it seriously hung like 5 seconds and was going at maximum 10fps.
2) Heat. The phone appears to get even warmer now. How is that even possible?
3) Battery Life. My battery appears to be 10% worse. I used to only charge it at night but now I have to charge it after work around 8pm.
I do have some hope though. I'm waiting for Neo or Santod to compile a debloated rom and hoping that clears up these issues.

I was experiencing terrible lag, it seems to be settling down now. I was overheating, but that seems to have settled as well. Biggest problem is that I'm only charging at 550mA with a 2A quick charger. That's new, and totally unacceptable. Also, HTC emojis are gone. All I have are the stupid jellybean/potato looking guys and I can't decipher which emotion they are trying to relay. Chics dig emojis, and here I am feeling emoji blind.
Edit: Lag is still terrible

In the same boat.. this update is not good. This phone is so laggy and slow now it's like my OG Droid 1 from years ago. Cleared cache after installing.. waited the obligatory 45 minutes to rebuild stuff. Uninstalled the bloatware I could and it literally took minutes to do a simple uninstall. Hasn't got any better in the last day at all. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two I'll have to go back to Lollipop. This is probably the most buggy, laggy, battery killing Android update I've seen on any of my Android phones since Droid 1 days. Anyone else getting this or know of any kind of fix? I just can't imagine HTC and VZW pushed this out if problems like these are a common occurrence.

I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)

Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.

I was having many heat/lag issues as described above when I flashed the zip dirty or clean. I had to do a RUU with the MM update. Now it's super smooth. Still get lots of heat when the system is booting up for the first time/settling in. But after that, no issues.

how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?

baune7 said:
Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.
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Yea you will have to root. The thing is, Venom is literally a STOCK rooted M9 that has all bloat cut away and 1 small app for additional features (like changing status bar and power button for flashlight.). It is well worth it.
baune7 said:
how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?
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Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.

im_high_tech said:
Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.
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I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.

mcampos7 said:
I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.
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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness

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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness
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It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.

mcampos7 said:
It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.
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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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I'm also on the elemental kernel

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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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-450mA atm using xda app & hangouts
Now -60
-320

Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app

I can barely get my phone to charge. I'm going back to L. If I nand back, do I need to flash 5.1 firmware or isn't hate covered in the nand?

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Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.

4.3 Request
im_high_tech said:
I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)
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Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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Mmmm, but my original post was about the M9. Not the M8. They're similar, but the M8 has a superior processor. Imo it'd be amaz to have my custom (and unfortunately shattered) M8's processors and RAM in my M9. Fix all these issues. But, alas.....
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.
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In scale, that prolly equates to about 70% of my normal day, minus gaming. Right now I'm getting through about 30% of my day, minus gaming, before needing a charge. Even with QC, charging takes about 40% longer than it did on Lollipop.
Still neither factory reset nor rooting is an option, as I have nothing to back my stuff up on. No, the local library isn't kind enough to me for that lol.

Snoopy679 said:
Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?
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Battery problems?

I know, our device has really great battery life and I don't have anything to complain about that, but a friend of mine just got himself a new phone and his values make me a bit jealous and most of all: surprised and stunned.
He got himself a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (SD 625 variant, MKT variant really sucks), it has the same processor, same display and not even 700 mAh more (4100 mAh) and he got with some "dev rom" (made by Xiaomi, seems to just be the beta of that ugly MIUI 9, based on Andorid 7.0) 6h of SOT, doze seems to haven't really kicked in in that time. in their forum in the SOT thread I see people getting normally about 8-10 with up to over 12 h of SOT, most of them on stock ROM without any additions. And I'm quite irritated about that huge of a difference with not that much more battery. And he seems quite convinced that it's not on the cost of performance, you should notice that quickly on such a heavily skinned ROM.
Now my question is: how in hell is that even possible? I mean our devices seem quite comparablewith just a slight bump in battery but near-stock AOSP Android against pretty much an iOS clone. Does anyone have any idea what could cause that big of a difference? And if it's software based could that be done on our device? Because my experience and from different posts our device lasts about 5-6 h normally.
I mean I'm already lucky about my 2 days of usage with up to about 2.5 days on some weekends where I have a lot of stuff to do. But I wouldn't mind a bit of extra. But my biggest problem with that is as simple as: how? I could really use some explaination right now...

I don't have issues with device.. stock 7.1.1 with dec.patch, unlocked bootloader, with latest magisk. Also installed greenify.

Then you are one of very rare cases. My experience is about half of that.
And I also meant on stock ROM, without any modifications. So I don't know which apps you greenified, but that was not the point. I use Greenify too but more for apps that aren't supposed to run constantly in background when I only use it very seldomly.

The norm for this phone is 8+ hours SOT. Sometimes I get 10 and a few have had up to 12. Unless you're gaming 8 should be easy. 5 hours means something is wrong with your phone hardware, you have a rogue battery eating app or you're gaming. I rarely charge my phone over the weekend even when I use it a lot.

Well, neither of that is the case and I rarely see people claiming more than 6h of SOT

So the answer to your question is, it's the wrong question. The question should be, why does my battery not last very long and what apps or usage causes me to have such poor battery life? Compared to the Redmi Note 4 the Z Play is exactly where it should be.
Here's a link to the SOT thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/review/screen-time-t3643959
gsmarena battery life test 100h endurance rating: https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=8310#show
Here's an app to help diagnose battery condition (Accubattery): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en
also betterbatterystats is really helpful.
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out!

Well, gsam isn't detecting any app that's off even with root so I don't think there is any. I installed that AccuBattery app, let's see what it has to say

Removed because of ****ty q&a system...

Oh, and another thing I noticed: I get very randomly reboots, and every time the battery percentage drops massively. Just had a 30% drop. And after the reboot the battery percentage seems like frozen. Now I rebooted and plugged in the cable and got 44% again... No fast charging. Do that detection seems very off
Motorola forum isn't helpful at all. Clearing cache and dalvik didn't change anything and running around for a week in secure mode (that's how random they mostly are) or even doing a factory reset without restoring apps is out of question for obvious reasons.

That's pretty weird. Did you try a factory reset and after restore your apps? There's not a lot you can do if you're not rooted, but you shouldn't need to do much anyway on stock rom.
Only other option is full RSD lite OS restore as a last resort.

I am rooted for long, that's why I use Greenify. I know it also works without but then it's a joke. As RSD lite is, it just refuses for everyone to detect anything on Windows 10.
Factory reset is out of question for the moment, it takes way too long to do it properly (with titanium and NANDroid backup first) and I won't have that much time probably for the whole of this month. Otherwise I would most likely already have went off to the next best custom ROM since Motorola just can't get their **** together and still work on 8.0 in test for 2.5 month with searching testers for another one.
I think the next thing I'll do is to try the good old battery calibration, just have to find the file storing the statistics. I know many say that won't work but that's rubbish, it worked for me already a few times

Update: no, no change. Don't know if that funky battery percentage bug on random reboots still happen since I haven't had any again yet, but they come too random and unpredictable.
And that AccuBattery just proves to be worthless. It tries to estimate the rest capacity, but then it even fails to detect original capacity by 500 mAh. The battery sucker stats are also unrealistic. It puts chrome first with 10%, while GSam with root puts it 5th at 4.6% after kernel, Spotify, Android system and fight services. Android itself even puts it 9th with screen, phone idle, cell standby, Android OS and Bluetooth in-between.
So let's see what happens first. Motorola releasing 8.0, which I will flash through the .xml.zip, this time using flashfile.xml which should force a factory reset... Or me finding the time to switch to a custom ROM
Edit: so I got another one, bit this time no crazy battery drop. But the other times I killed of the soft reboot sequence because Magisk can have some problems with that. This time I didn't

Yesterday I was finally able to do the factory reset since those darn random reboots became too annoying and Moto's support is had just the most ridiculous ideas... In the worst way.
Either way, now OTA looks better, let's see how it will turn out in the next days

Going from Oreo to Marshmallow & Battery??????

hello there, been following this forum for ages, and a owner of a htc 10 for two weeks....
But I have a big problem....... the battery.....It really is abysmal......
I am currently on LeeDroid oreo, but have tried other roms, and come to the conclusion, the battery sucks!
I know there are kernal tweaks, but with this phone, i just like running the basic custom rom, no bells and whistles......
i am s-off and know how to downgrade/sort signal out/CID/ADB and everything, but I am reluctant to go too far back (Although I do like marshmallow)
I know on other phones, that going back to a previous firmware...sometimes improves the battery
but will it improve my battery????????

I went from Oreo to Nougat. Battery much improved. I was running pure stock rooted. No other mods on Nougat. Took a day to settle, but I could finally leave the house not worrying if I needed to carry a USB cable with me for a charge.
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gustav30 said:
I went from Oreo to Nougat. Battery much improved. I was running pure stock rooted. No other mods on Nougat. Took a day to settle, but I could finally leave the house not worrying if I needed to carry a USB cable with me for a charge.
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And overnight, do you notice any abnormal discharge? As much as 25/30%? or less?
I have this much of a discharge on nougat and on oreo... Did not noticed much of a difference on both FW tbh... As i bought this phone 2nd hand about a month ago, it was already on N and never tested it on MM to tell if there is any difference.
Our luck is the fast charge capability this phone has...

яι¢αя∂σ said:
And overnight, do you notice any abnormal discharge? As much as 25/30%? or less?
I have this much of a discharge on nougat and on oreo... Did not noticed much of a difference on both FW tbh... As i bought this phone 2nd hand about a month ago, it was already on N and never tested it on MM to tell if there is any difference.
Our luck is the fast charge capability this phone has...
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No, maybe like 2 - 3% at most overnight.

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No, maybe like 2 - 3% at most overnight.
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And you had battery problems before the downgrade?

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And you had battery problems before the downgrade?
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I would say so, yes I had problems. I bought this phone 2nd hand as well. A mint Red one. Pristine condition - at least in appearance. I also have/coming from a daily driver LG V20. Which also uses same 820 chipset. So I had some kind of expectation as to what battery life around. I was kind of shocked how bad the battery was on the 10. Phone was dropping like maybe 20% overnight. In the daytime on stock before I rooted I was getting maybe 1.5 - 2 SOT hours depending on use(i'm not a heavy gamer). I had never experienced such bad battery life before on an HTC phone. I unlocked it/rooted it and started playing with mods. The most success I had was with the Helix engine. I also had some Magisk modules installed to help deep sleep. Probably improved to getting 3 - 3.5 hours SOT. There is a thread dedicated to getting better battery life on Oreo in the guides section and I'd follow that thread and try various things. Also I had done the HTC calibration a few times, and the HTC battery test just to get a sense of the battery's health. In their test, I scored an 85, so I'd say the battery was OK. Not in the area of being a replacement.
But in the end, I was curious to go back to Nougat and then maybe on to Marshmallow to see how battery life would be. Simply going down to Nougat, I was satisfied. Not quite as good as my LG V20, but close enough. Don't feel the need to go down to marshmallow for it.
Maybe in the future I'll go back to Oreo on the 10, but for the most part, Nougat is fine.
From what I've read as well, HTC sort of 'unleashed' the power of the 820 chipset in Nougat, therefore when people went from Marshmallow to Nougat they reported worst battery life but improved performance especially in gaming.

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I would say so, yes I had problems. I bought this phone 2nd hand as well. A mint Red one. Pristine condition - at least in appearance. I also have/coming from a daily driver LG V20. Which also uses same 820 chipset. So I had some kind of expectation as to what battery life around. I was kind of shocked how bad the battery was on the 10. Phone was dropping like maybe 20% overnight. In the daytime on stock before I rooted I was getting maybe 1.5 - 2 SOT hours depending on use(i'm not a heavy gamer). I had never experienced such bad battery life before on an HTC phone. I unlocked it/rooted it and started playing with mods. The most success I had was with the Helix engine. I also had some Magisk modules installed to help deep sleep. Probably improved to getting 3 - 3.5 hours SOT. There is a thread dedicated to getting better battery life on Oreo in the guides section and I'd follow that thread and try various things. Also I had done the HTC calibration a few times, and the HTC battery test just to get a sense of the battery's health. In their test, I scored an 85, so I'd say the battery was OK. Not in the area of being a replacement.
But in the end, I was curious to go back to Nougat and then maybe on to Marshmallow to see how battery life would be. Simply going down to Nougat, I was satisfied. Not quite as good as my LG V20, but close enough. Don't feel the need to go down to marshmallow for it.
Maybe in the future I'll go back to Oreo on the 10, but for the most part, Nougat is fine.
From what I've read as well, HTC sort of 'unleashed' the power of the 820 chipset in Nougat, therefore when people went from Marshmallow to Nougat they reported worst battery life but improved performance especially in gaming.
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Im aware on the unleashed power htc did on N, but it just don't justify the amount of energy drained. It does not make sense to remove social or other apps from background just because you need to retain battery. Still have a one M7 and the battery still is way better than this htc, with all the apps and settings i need on both, almost a clone of my m7. Im no gamer at all, and don't use whatsup, viber, FB, g+ etc.
You are saying that just by returning from Oero to Nougat, your htc 10 battery got less discharge, like it got fixed? without any mod's?
Thanks for your time to answer me!

Yeah, for me moving back to Nougat fixed my drain problems. Keep in mind, I didn't own the phone before Oreo, so I can't say what it was like pre oreo. But I finally felt comfortable with the performance/battery life I was getting on Nougat. I can't say this will work for you, but others have reported the same. Moving back to Nougat improved battery life.
Before you do it, I'd advise to rule out a hardware problem though to save the aggrivation of downgrading. Do the HTC battery test. If you fall below 70% in the test after an hour, I'd say it might be more hardware related than software.
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Yeah, for me moving back to Nougat fixed my drain problems. Keep in mind, I didn't own the phone before Oreo, so I can't say what it was like pre oreo. But I finally felt comfortable with the performance/battery life I was getting on Nougat. I can't say this will work for you, but others have reported the same. Moving back to Nougat improved battery life.
Before you do it, I'd advise to rule out a hardware problem though to save the aggrivation of downgrading. Do the HTC battery test. If you fall below 70% in the test after an hour, I'd say it might be more hardware related than software.
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Good morning.
Wile i was chating with you (yesterday), finally used the htc battery test and to my surprise it went from 99% to 88% in that hour test (99 because it was off and spent that ~1% booting). So, hopefully, will experience the same as the most of you who made the downgrade.
Perhaps its some part on the process of downgrading that fixes something, maybe the format of the [persist] partition one have to wipe to recover access to the baseband (thus the imei) repairs something, a kind of file system error that makes the android system use a lot of power(?).
As i told before, if do mobile repair and to this day, after several hundred of phone fix (hard and software, various brands as lg, samsung, htc,, iDeveices and china phones, never seen this type of problem unless it was hardware problems like pmic (power management IC) due to use of bad chargers / bad cables, water damage, drop damage, etc. Got this 10 and as soon i got here (xda) immediately noticed the amount of people that had the very same problem. And we are (here on xda) just a few to the many thousands of 10 owners around the globe that don't use xda or any other forums to talk about this problem.
Going to do this downgrade today. Im eager to see the result and use my 10 finally (another agnostic hope :angel!!
Thanks!