I know my way around Android well enough I could probably teach a class. I've been excited for the Marshmallow update for my Verizon M9, mostly for the security update. Now I've got it, and udderly hate it. Not only is this marshmallow über soft and squishy, it's somehow managed to swallow the majority of my CPU--much like BOB from Monsters vs Aliens. Actually, the update is more like BOB than a delicious couple of calories. Tremendous lag from god knows where, constant freezing and other **** when in hpm--whether it be plugged in or not--which often crashes apps altogether or causes a reboot, keyboard latency of about 1.5seconds, network disconnecting when the device exceeds 120℉, ooh!, and the cherry on top: loss of data. I use my phone for both business/class-related stuff and for gaming/pleasure(shh, creeps) because I'm too broke to buy anything else. The front-facing speakers get glitcy and doing that pausing crap like when you drive outta radio range in a car. This was never a problem with Lollipop, but is making Android a living hell to deal with. MHL has yet to work on Marshmallow, and instead simply crashes the phone. Again. Can't find ANYthing ANYwhere about this. Both Verizon and HTC are refusing to talk to me directly about it; keep getting passed to the next rep, who tries to put me through their template of troubleshooting steps. Wiping cache partition worked...for all of ten minutes. If that. HTC wants to take my phone for two weeks, which won't work due to classes.
Full stock M9. I use App Mgr III for new moving apps quickly, App Cache Cleaner because I'm lazy, and Greenify to kill some stuff that I've got, e.g., Ingress, Skype, snapchat. Greenify does NOT allow killing of bloatware/pre-installed crap, so let me tape the mouths of those twits shut now. Most pre-installed apps, including all but two of the Verizon things, are disabled.
The game I notice the most trouble on is Walking War Robots, can't tell if it has to do with graphics or the processor itself. Chrome browser is quite laggy; Drive is almost unresponsive as is Docs; have lost quite a bit of data from Microsoft Word, both saved and documents being worked on. Reception is also quite a bit worse with the Marshmallow update, calls being dropped more frequently and location often having trouble pinpointing me on high-accuracy.
As I do NOT have a computer, reseting the device is not an option. The recaptcha thingy took almost 30 seconds to load; on Lollipop, they took less than five.
I fully agree with you. My experience with marshmallow has only been negative so far.
1) Incredibly Laggy. Back in the day, installing a kitkat or lollipop rom, the phone would be super fluid and would only slightly lag when installing the 50 apps. God forbid when I was installing marshmallow it seriously hung like 5 seconds and was going at maximum 10fps.
2) Heat. The phone appears to get even warmer now. How is that even possible?
3) Battery Life. My battery appears to be 10% worse. I used to only charge it at night but now I have to charge it after work around 8pm.
I do have some hope though. I'm waiting for Neo or Santod to compile a debloated rom and hoping that clears up these issues.
I was experiencing terrible lag, it seems to be settling down now. I was overheating, but that seems to have settled as well. Biggest problem is that I'm only charging at 550mA with a 2A quick charger. That's new, and totally unacceptable. Also, HTC emojis are gone. All I have are the stupid jellybean/potato looking guys and I can't decipher which emotion they are trying to relay. Chics dig emojis, and here I am feeling emoji blind.
Edit: Lag is still terrible
In the same boat.. this update is not good. This phone is so laggy and slow now it's like my OG Droid 1 from years ago. Cleared cache after installing.. waited the obligatory 45 minutes to rebuild stuff. Uninstalled the bloatware I could and it literally took minutes to do a simple uninstall. Hasn't got any better in the last day at all. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two I'll have to go back to Lollipop. This is probably the most buggy, laggy, battery killing Android update I've seen on any of my Android phones since Droid 1 days. Anyone else getting this or know of any kind of fix? I just can't imagine HTC and VZW pushed this out if problems like these are a common occurrence.
I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)
Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.
I was having many heat/lag issues as described above when I flashed the zip dirty or clean. I had to do a RUU with the MM update. Now it's super smooth. Still get lots of heat when the system is booting up for the first time/settling in. But after that, no issues.
how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?
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Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.
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Yea you will have to root. The thing is, Venom is literally a STOCK rooted M9 that has all bloat cut away and 1 small app for additional features (like changing status bar and power button for flashlight.). It is well worth it.
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how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?
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Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.
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Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.
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I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.
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I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.
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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness
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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness
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It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.
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It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.
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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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I'm also on the elemental kernel
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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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-450mA atm using xda app & hangouts
Now -60
-320
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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I can barely get my phone to charge. I'm going back to L. If I nand back, do I need to flash 5.1 firmware or isn't hate covered in the nand?
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Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.
4.3 Request
im_high_tech said:
I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)
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Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?
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Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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Mmmm, but my original post was about the M9. Not the M8. They're similar, but the M8 has a superior processor. Imo it'd be amaz to have my custom (and unfortunately shattered) M8's processors and RAM in my M9. Fix all these issues. But, alas.....
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.
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In scale, that prolly equates to about 70% of my normal day, minus gaming. Right now I'm getting through about 30% of my day, minus gaming, before needing a charge. Even with QC, charging takes about 40% longer than it did on Lollipop.
Still neither factory reset nor rooting is an option, as I have nothing to back my stuff up on. No, the local library isn't kind enough to me for that lol.
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Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759884409
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ever since I updated to 2.2, no matter what rom I'm using..performance has been so poor compared to 2.1. I wish I never updated. My battery runs out quick, temperature goes up to 100F even when idle and my phone hangs every time I turn on wifi. Hopefully I find out a solution soon, i've been flashing and uninstalling roms all day these past two days. I love the phone though don't get me wrong =\
That sounds quite odd.
Are you using an unmodified SBF, or are you using a release where the author/publisher has made a lot of changes? When having problems, it may be best to stick to one release and try to narrow down your problems, instead of trying many different releases and introducing new variables into the mix.
Are you overclocking your phone - perhaps it's causing the rise in temperature? Or are you running a lot of widgets? There may be some widgets that use the system too aggressively, causing too much strain/heat.
Hi! Did you do "wipe" before and after flashing?
That is very odd. I am on Froyo and performance has been phenomenal ever since the flash.
I agree with naenee, check the ROM you're flashing...
i flashed the UK 3.4.2-117 and right now using Pay's 2.1 rom. I remember that I did wipe data/cache before flashing and after flashing. IDK, im just not having problem's with this particular rom..it seems like it happens on all the other ones im trying. I get random freezes and especially when I toggle on wifi. I recently installed setVEL and will see if battery improves, this means i don't need milestone right? I'm also using setCPU.
I might try to flash 3.4.2_131-003 PL version. Will it cause any trouble and can I go back down to UK 3.4.2-117?
Seeing as it uses the same kernel, you should be able to do so...
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I might try to flash 3.4.2_131-003 PL version. Will it cause any trouble and can I go back down to UK 3.4.2-117?
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I have been using the orange 2.2 for several days and no specific problem is noted.
well I reinstalled pays rom first and everything is working good. No more hang ups or freezes but I still can't get the battery to last as long.My phone is mostly idled, running on 2G, just one widget, and everything in settings turned down to the least minimal settings..im talking about battery saver, screen brightness all the way down..everything off! 6 hours in and im already on 70%. I can live with that but I'm using setVsel and I know it could do better. Anyone know another way I can make my battery last longer?
I'm running Pays latest rom based on the UK 3.4.2 and it runs great. I'm also using setvsel (as every defy user should) and optimized all my vsels ([email protected], [email protected], [email protected]) using stability test. I haven't had a 'normal' day of use yet, but with heavy use (installing apps, web browsing, flashing rom) I've gotten at least a full day (~15 hrs) out of a charge.
I recommend minimizing your vsels using setvsel, then judging your battery life. Check out the setvsel thread for more help.
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And remember this is a smart phone, some people report getting 2 to 3 days of use out of it. That's basically idle time tho. These new smart phones are just that, and use much more battery than the Dumbphone.
Dewman4life said:
And remember this is a smart phone, some people report getting 2 to 3 days of use out of it. That's basically idle time tho. These new smart phones are just that, and use much more battery than the Dumbphone.
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Even if that's the case (and I dispute it, I use my phone a fair amount in the ~3 days the battery averages), it still doesn't explain why the OP's phone is dropping 30% in 6 hours while idling.
When I updated to froyo, my battery life went from about 15 hours of use to 21 hours between charges. So I'm thinking the op has an app doing the draining.
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Unfortunately, this is a characteristic of Android.... Ridiculously inconsistent in the battery department.
Wife's phone is on official froyo, has been amazing since updated (a few weeks ago) but since yesterday some weird reason it's been super glitchy and freezing up. Not sure why...haven't changed anything to it and she's only downloaded an app or two (such as pandora) in the last couple days...I was playing around with it trying to figure out what was up...can't figure it out. I went into titanium backup to freeze some apps thinking maybe some blur crap was freezing it up but TB froze up so I can't even get in there. Also, same as OP, the battery has been heating up really quick lately, especially when on wifi.
Not sure what's up here...but I'm hoping nothing serious! Will keep you all updated on this...we'll see if there is a trend going on here.
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ever since I updated to 2.2, no matter what rom I'm using..performance has been so poor compared to 2.1. I wish I never updated. My battery runs out quick, temperature goes up to 100F even when idle and my phone hangs every time I turn on wifi. Hopefully I find out a solution soon, i've been flashing and uninstalling roms all day these past two days. I love the phone though don't get me wrong =\
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check your cpu usage... if it's constantly arround 99%, you may experience the "usb-plug/unplug"-bug.
try enabling usb debug and restart your phone.
hah2110 said:
Unfortunately, this is a characteristic of Android.... Ridiculously inconsistent in the battery department.
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I would rather say it is a characteristic of people using android, to have widely different usage patterns, causing differences in how long a charge lasts for each.
Hi there. Have you tried to recalibrate the battery? There is an app on the marke called Battery Calibrator. From what I understand if you play with roms the battery can give you problems so it need to be calibrated again. I hope this can help.
For those interested... I'm having a problem, I don't know yet if it's a bug or a hardware defect.
My phones wastes A LOT of battery while it should be suspended.
I've tracked the problem to, apparently, Motorola's SIM driver. From what I've discovered so far, the SIM isn't accepting the suspend state and therefore the "suspend" process uses too much CPU time... all of this when the phone is, supposedly, saving battery.
As I can't get a motorola engineer involved, I can't say for sure if this is the true cause... but it's the closer I've got to a diagnostic, so far.
Your problem might or not be related to this, but if you're interested about what I've found or what my kernel log looks like so you can compare with your own problem... this is the thread at motorola's owner forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47721
I am one of the unfortunate souls who is experiencing terrible battery life due to the AndroidOS bug. I feel like I spend half my waking hours trying to figure out what is causing it and doing different things to my phone improve my battery life.
I'm definitely getting sick of it and while I realize that Samsung/Sprint may eventually come out with a software update that fixes the problem, I'm not sure I'm willing to wait since it could take months (and the issue was supposedly fixed for GS2 phones in 2.3.4).
At this point, I'm considering going back to the Moto Photon--it's battery life is simply amazing. My only issue with the Moto is its unusable camera.
Anyone else getting as frustrated as I am and considering jumping ship to another phone?
What have you done to fix it?
Are you saying that you still have the bug even aftera factory reset ?
Why not just take it back and have them give you a new one since you obviously have a defective phone?
Also how many hours are you actually getting out of the battery?
I don't see any other phone worth switching to and I have had them all. Each with their own specific problem. But this one here is as good as it gets
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nabbed said:
What have you done to fix it?
Are you saying that you still have the bug even aftera factory reset ?
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I've tried just about everything that has been mentioned in the AndroidOS/battery life thread (reset, wifi, autosync) but I'm still getting only 12 hours of battery life on a good day, 8 hours on a bad day
I might try exchanging the phone, but I'm hesitant to do so due to the LOS bug (I have not experienced this with my phone as of yet).
Honestly, while I love the phone in many other ways, I'm about to throw the thing out the window since 8 hours of battery life is simply not acceptable to me
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but I'm still getting only 12 hours of battery life on a good day, 8 hours on a bad day
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That doesn't mean anything to me. What's the display on time? How good/bad is the cellular signal?
Exchange it bro. Ive had two of these phones so far and none had this problem. I'm getting like 24-30 hours battery with like 4-5 hours screen on time. This phone had awesome battery. Download an apps called better battery stats. This will show wakelocks and processes that are draining the battery. Good luck man.
The Evo3D Killer!!!
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That doesn't mean anything to me. What's the display on time? How good/bad is the cellular signal?
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On a good day, the display is on for less than 30-45 min. On a bad day, the phone display time is somewhere between 90-120 minutes.
I pulled 16 hours ojt of my battery yesterday with over 12 on wifi and i was at 40 percent. I have to use wifi at work as i have no signal and when i do get signal its roaming. I would say that my conditions at work are far from ideal but this phone is great. My old phone would die before 1130(evo shift).
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On a good day, the display is on for less than 30-45 min. On a bad day, the phone display time is somewhere between 90-120 minutes.
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Yeah bro that's awful. I would take that back immediately. There is no sense in that. U definitely have a bug in that phone. Good luck.
The Evo3D Killer!!!
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
madsquabbles said:
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
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I had the issue with the stock kernel and custom kernels. I'm just going to hold out until we can get a AOSP build and hope that using as little of Samsung's code fixes it.
madsquabbles said:
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
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I'm on stock and have nothing out of the ordinary installed. Out of curiosity, do you have a google account with full sync turned on?
Lol 8 12 hours isn't bad with a stock battery and 4.5 inch screen. If you are in a poor reception area it could be that. Otherwise you have alot of Apps running in the background.
My advice : root it and extended battery.
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I'm on stock and have nothing out of the ordinary installed. Out of curiosity, do you have a google account with full sync turned on?
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I average 15-20 hours easily on a charge, with a full sync google account
Everything Sync'd Listed below:
- Google+ Notifications
- Music
- Books
- Contacts
- Gmail
- Picasa Web Albums
- Calendar
If anything else can be Sync'd I have not run across it. I also have my Tapatalk set to notify me of PM's, and updates to Subscribed topics, I removed the accuweather widget because it only updates every 3 hours and installed Weatherbug Elite and set it to update every 30 minutes. On top of all that I browse the web regularly to visit sites that are websense'd at work, and I play dungeon hunter 2, and asphalt 6 on my lunch break. At home the phone sits on my desk until its time to pass out, only used for my Rift Mobile authenticator.
This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
Why does the bug seem to affect the gs2 more than other phones? For example, I've never seen it mentioned on the photon forums
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This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
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ajamer said:
This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
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I didn't have this problem on my evo and I don't have it on my gs2.
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i use my phone a lot while im at school throughout the day , i last using wifi and 3g, and if needed i can do a quick charge while i study in the car but i lasted to 60% using 3g for a few hours
So recently my battery life went from absolutely amazing to terrible (just went from 100% to 83 percent with 30 min SOT and 3 hrs off the charger) does anyone know a good app that will tell me what the hell is digging through my battery life so bad? The only thing I have connected is the android wear watch, and surely that wouldn't hinder my battery life that much, would it? Thanks to anyone that replies, I just want my old battery life back.
if you recently took the OTA then go in to recovery to clear the cache partition
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if you recently took the OTA then go in to recovery to clear the cache partition
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I already tried that, to no avail..
what does your battery screen look like?
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what does your battery screen look like?
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I plugged it up or I would show you, I uninstalled some things and it seems to be helping quite a bit. Seems like Facebook was the one that really helped.
Yes we have been talking this on the "At&t OTA" thread. Check over there, there are a couple small solutions people have. None have worked for me my battery life is HORRID post update. I've done a reset, cleared cache, etc
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Yes we have been talking this on the "At&t OTA" thread. Check over there, there are a couple small solutions people have. None have worked for me my battery life is HORRID post update. I've done a reset, cleared cache, etc
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Mine has been terrible since the NK3 OTA as well. It's a shame that they couldn't just leave it alone. I was enjoying it so much more when I was squeezing 5 hours SOT.
after taking the NK3 update, my battery life was still amazing, until tonight. I didnt update anything (no app updates and no new apps installed) but my battery went from 50% to 30% in about 10 minutes. I cleared cache and rebooted and it went from 30% to 0% in about 15 minutes. I dont understand why all of a sudden, it died so quickly. Only thing I can think of is that I switched to ART about two days ago. It was fine until this evening, when the phone completely fell on its face. It was running extremely slow, even after I killed all running apps, thats when the battery dropped. I'm switching back to dalvik and we'll see what happens.
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after taking the NK3 update, my battery life was still amazing, until tonight. I didnt update anything (no app updates and no new apps installed) but my battery went from 50% to 30% in about 10 minutes. I cleared cache and rebooted and it went from 30% to 0% in about 15 minutes. I dont understand why all of a sudden, it died so quickly. Only thing I can think of is that I switched to ART about two days ago. It was fine until this evening, when the phone completely fell on its face. It was running extremely slow, even after I killed all running apps, thats when the battery dropped. I'm switching back to dalvik and we'll see what happens.
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I'm still on dalvik, so that isn't the problem. They have probably done something that has messed with a radio or something to set up the enhanced 4G services.
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I'm still on dalvik, so that isn't the problem. They have probably done something that has messed with a radio or something to set up the enhanced 4G services.
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Yeah, my battery life has taken a major blow too. I used to get 6+ hours of screen on time and now barely 4 if lucky. What the hell.
hyukki said:
Yeah, my battery life has taken a major blow too. I used to get 6+ hours of screen on time and now barely 4 if lucky. What the hell.
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one experiencing this. This tells me that it isn't a rogue app.
OK guys, here is an odd question. What do you do for a living? Is there anyone that would benefit by listening in to your device? I know it sounds weird, but your phone may be active when you think it isn't, including the camera, mics, GPS etc. I get these unexplained battery drains too, and my wife has the identical device and near identical app setup (and we both have the update) and her battery is much better. Its one of only two things i can think of.
Here's the other: not using the supplied charger. I regularly use other chargers when my wife refuses to do so.
Anyway, just my mad ideas
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OK guys, here is an odd question. What do you do for a living? Is there anyone that would benefit by listening in to your device? I know it sounds weird, but your phone may be active when you think it isn't, including the camera, mics, GPS etc. I get these unexplained battery drains too, and my wife has the identical device and near identical app setup (and we both have the update) and her battery is much better. Its one of only two things i can think of.
Here's the other: not using the supplied charger. I regularly use other chargers when my wife refuses to do so.
Anyway, just my mad ideas
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I'm just a 19 year old nurse aid.. I highly doubt anyone would benefit from monitoring me. And I use the stock charger.
In all honesty I went through and found a bunch of apps I personally don't use to disable, such as instagram and some other apps such as that, you may also want to see if your mobile signal is having issues or your wifi is having issues, both those items will cause battery drain, I turned off a bunch of apps and my phones been unplugged for almost 6 hours and I have over an hour of that as screen time, I'm down to 88%, I work at att so I'm always showing my phones off and demoing them, I disabled 21 apps I have no use fore and my free ram is just about a gig, you just gotta dig a bit to find what's always on.
thanitos said:
In all honesty I went through and found a bunch of apps I personally don't use to disable, such as instagram and some other apps such as that, you may also want to see if your mobile signal is having issues or your wifi is having issues, both those items will cause battery drain, I turned off a bunch of apps and my phones been unplugged for almost 6 hours and I have over an hour of that as screen time, I'm down to 88%, I work at att so I'm always showing my phones off and demoing them, I disabled 21 apps I have no use fore and my free ram is just about a gig, you just gotta dig a bit to find what's always on.
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Care to compile a list of what you disabled?
Amazon
Att locker
Att family maps
Att live
Att mail
Att mobile locate
Att navigator
Att ready to go
Caller name I'd
Drive mode
Games
Google play movies and TV
Google +
Instagram
Keeper
Lookout
Milk
Mobile TV
Smart remote
Uber
Yellow pages
Soft card
I used task killer, found any apps that were running which I didn't use and disabled or Un-installed them. Then went from there as to what else ran I didn't want.
My wife keeps on bugging me that after the update her battery on her note 4 is ****ty to the point that it would drain in 6 hours.
Go to the thread where you disable Knox.. It has a adb command you can send to phone that disables close to 100 apps.. Try it and see if it helps.
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Today I had 4hours OST and was at 50%
insang-droid said:
Go to the thread where you disable Knox.. It has a adb command you can send to phone that disables close to 100 apps.. Try it and see if it helps.
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Today I had 4hours OST and was at 50%
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Were you experiencing issues before?
not sure what you mean by bad.. every one's usage of the phone is different.. i was getting around 4 hours OST.. when using the phone regularly.. playing CoC, answering emails, whatsapp, messaging...
sometime i got 3 hours.. some time i got 5.. some time it ran away so i had to reboot.
i believe about 75% that disabling some of the software did help with battery life while the phone is sleeping. but i've only recently disabled bunch of stuff
I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie.
Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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I like 10...No issues other then bluetooth connectivity occasionally acts up when connecting to my vehicle and running Pandora. I never cared for 9 and went back to 8.1 on my PH-1 until a stable version of 10 is available.
MArtyChubbs said:
I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie. Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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Other than Google headed toward completely locking down recovery, I've been happy with it. Stock, rooted, EX kernel. Not experiencing any memory or lag issues at all.
Hello,
I have the device since ~ two months. I don't have any special complaint...
Battery is rather good for the moment. September version was quite buggy..!
I think the october release improved the experience a lot...
Actually stock October image + Root + EX Kernel.
Cheers...
Sébastien.
I only have two issues, and both aren't deal breakers, but they are concerning a bit. The first is random reboots like once a week. It doesn't matter what I'm doing as it just decides to reboot. The other is a bit more concerning as it happened twice since 10 was officially released. Again it doesn't matter what I'm doing, and the screen will go black, and become unresponsive. I have to force a manual reboot, and when it tried to boot the splash screen flashes several times, and then it boots into recovery with a message "Could not load Android OS. You can try again, or do a factory resest.". I selected "Try Again", and it booted normally, but I don't like risking that. Other than those two issue it's been super smooth, and very snappy. I have no complaints about performance at all when it's working normally.
Thank you for the responses. I'll try to wipe and reinstall to see if that helps.
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MArtyChubbs said:
I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie.
Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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Glad you've mentioned the podcast problem. Same here. Either stops randomly and when going back in then it's back to the beginning. Are you using Google Podcast app?
Yes, that app has been the most frustrating. Although, iheart has given me the same problem. Nothing like listening to a 4 hour episode of Hardcore History and then losing where I was just for checking how bad I'm doing in fantasy football. Double kick in the nuts...
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I liked the Android 10. Don't have problem with apps closing or RAM issues. My problem is with the battery draining. Already done a factory reset after the OTA, but the battery life is getting worse every day. Have no social networks besides WhatsApp, using a few data because I live in small town that every place that I go have wi-fi. Using pie, have 36/38 hours with 4.5/5 hours os screen. With Android 10 now have 30 hours at best with 5/5.5 SOT. Battery is draining like 2% per hour, and it really bothers me. Also, full stock here. Probably will back to Pie soon.
november update seems to have made some improvements with battery life.
droidstyle said:
november update seems to have made some improvements with battery life.
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Battery life has been quite great for me.
Goku80 said:
Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Agree...I am getting almost 2 days of use if I run the device down to 10%.
Rafsxd said:
I liked the Android 10. Don't have problem with apps closing or RAM issues. My problem is with the battery draining. Already done a factory reset after the OTA, but the battery life is getting worse every day. Have no social networks besides WhatsApp, using a few data because I live in small town that every place that I go have wi-fi. Using pie, have 36/38 hours with 4.5/5 hours os screen. With Android 10 now have 30 hours at best with 5/5.5 SOT. Battery is draining like 2% per hour, and it really bothers me. Also, full stock here. Probably will back to Pie soon.
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Have you tried Nov update?
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droidstyle said:
Agree...I am getting almost 2 days of use if I run the device down to 10%.
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Goku80 said:
Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Did you both get the phone at launch?
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MArtyChubbs said:
Did you both get the phone at launch?
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Not for me no. I got the phone back in June.
The battery life on P3XL is garbage. The P3XL is 2 months old. I have a 2 year P2XL with the exact same setup and the exact same apps. The battery life on P2XL is at least 50% better, even though it has been used for 2 years.
With identical usage, the P3XL drains battery twice as fast as P2XL. I've compared multiple scenarios with identical usage on both phones.
So no amount of Vodoo magic will fix the battery in P3XL. It's just terrible. My hypothesis is the battery temperature. I have an app that measures battery temperature and the P3XL seems to have a similar problem as P1XL - it runs WARM.
The P2XL, however runs much cooler in temperature So for ex, browsing Chrome and checking email, the P3XL might be at 35-37 Celsius, but the P2XL will be at less than 25 Celsius in exact same conditions.
Charging the P3XL also make it reach sometimes 40 Celsius, playing game over 45 Celsius. The P2XL almost never goes over 30 Celsius even on heavy load.
The battery in P3XL also drains very quickly with screen usage. I think the phone suffers from poor optimization, bad thermals, overheating and a battery hungry screen.
I'm always stressed out when being out without a charger for the P3XL. With the P2XL - it's never been a problem. I only charge it after 2 days.
to me, Android 10 has been the worst update on the Pixel 3 XL.
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Other than Google headed toward completely locking down recovery, I've been happy with it. Stock, rooted, EX kernel. Not experiencing any memory or lag issues at all.
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This is exactly how I feel. Sad Google decided to lock-down recovery, but it was just a matter of time. Wouldn't be surprised if this is just another step towards eventually removing us from obtaining root. (hope not)
But other than that, I love Android 10.. I love dark mode, bluetooth has been stable for me and stock rom with EX kernel has been great. But that's also been the combo I've had on my phone for years dating back to the Nexus 6P.
Just leaving this here
And I just want a customisable navbar.
Is it so hard Google?
I have a P3XL that's roughly 1 year old. It's seriously slow and laggy and stutters like none other. If i'm in Chrome and browsing reddit, it can crash from having a long page of images open. Using simultaneous apps like Spotify and Instagram kills the phone. I was using flashlight and making a call at the same time and it crashed.
I originally used stock, that was the same. Switched to Havoc OS and it's pretty much the same. I can only guess this is from poor RAM management. Battery life is crap now too. Doesn't last me till 6:00PM on a low usage day.
Any ROM suggestions? Or is there something here i'm missing? 4GB should be enough... the P2XL was absolutely fine but this is atrocious. I frequently want to toss this device across the room.
You may have a bad battery which is causing voltage/amperage problems and glitching. If you've already done a fresh clean install of the factory OS and still have issues that'd be my next guess.
Did you regularly run it below 20% or until dead?
Yeah I gotta say that sounds a battery issue or something else going on. I've been running stock Android 9 rooted with Kira kernel for about half a year now and although there is still a lot of reloading (especially when using chrome or internet browsers with lot of tabs open) it's still snappy and reloads quick. I've never had anything crash.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to test a battery for proper amperage. I know 2 ways to get an estimate on capacity with accubattery and extracting it from a bug report but I don't know if that will help with identify it or not.
It sounds almost identical to the same issue I had with my LG V20 which was a bad battery that would randomly shut down with around 15-25% capacity left when it got that low and when I changed the battery it fixed it
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You may have a bad battery which is causing voltage/amperage problems and glitching. If you've already done a fresh clean install of the factory OS and still have issues that'd be my next guess.
Did you regularly run it below 20% or until dead?
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I guess it could be a bad battery causing voltage issues. I have done a fresh clean install of factory OS, and still have issues. I would say i'm average when it comes to running it below 20%. I don't do that often, but sometimes it does. I rarely let it die completely.
Best scenario would be to go through Google Support?
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Yeah I gotta say that sounds a battery issue or something else going on. I've been running stock Android 9 rooted with Kira kernel for about half a year now and although there is still a lot of reloading (especially when using chrome or internet browsers with lot of tabs open) it's still snappy and reloads quick. I've never had anything crash.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to test a battery for proper amperage. I know 2 ways to get an estimate on capacity with accubattery and extracting it from a bug report but I don't know if that will help with identify it or not.
It sounds almost identical to the same issue I had with my LG V20 which was a bad battery that would randomly shut down with around 15-25% capacity left when it got that low and when I changed the battery it fixed it
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Yeah, mine is crashing hard. Hard enough that it's one of the poorest performance phones i've ever had. And that's saying a lot lol.
I'll try to use accubattery today to see what I get. It doesn't shut down at 15% thankfully.
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Yeah, mine is crashing hard. Hard enough that it's one of the poorest performance phones i've ever had. And that's saying a lot lol.
I'll try to use accubattery today to see what I get. It doesn't shut down at 15% thankfully.
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My V20 wouldn't always die at those ranges but it happened pretty frequently. Do you notice a difference with it plugged in?
I would definitely start from scratch if you really want to troubleshoot this. Backup everything then flash a stock system image from Google with the wipe all command and start from there and see. If it still does it then it is most likely a hardware issue.
Sounds more like a cache problem to me.....dodgy nand chip. Needs to be replaced no matter whats causing it. If you cant get rid of it after trying everything including swapping the active boot slot from a to be or vise versa
boe323 said:
Sounds more like a cache problem to me.....dodgy nand chip. Needs to be replaced no matter whats causing it. If you cant get rid of it after trying everything including swapping the active boot slot from a to be or vise versa
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Thanks for the suggestions and information. I'll try this. Thanks everyone else!