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another battery woe

Well.. in all my experimentation.. I messed up something.
I"m still running 2.1. I haven't upgraded to 2.2 or 2.3 yet, but after what I've been going thru.. it's looking like the only solution!
Battery in my evo is draining faster than it can get a charge.
It started last nite. It was 100% when I unplugged it. this morning 7hrs later, battery is drained.
I charged it up again, and went out. 3 hours later battery is drained again, and I only sent about 8 text messages, 3 of which had 1 picture attached.
I had fair to excellent signal strength.
I hat setCPU installed and I set it to conservative. since I put that on 3 days ago, my battery's been getting drawn way down! I set the max down to halfway and that didn't help.
I uninstalled setCPU and it seems battery is getting drawn down more.
When I restart the phone, EVERY app possible loads. I use advanced task killer and zap them all out. For the most part, they all reload.
I updated my radio to the latest and it works fine.
I don't see how an updated radio version can cause excessive battery drain!?
And my last woe.. things are slower on my poor Evo.. screens aren't as responsive as before, and everything seems choppy.
I uninstalled a few games just to lighten the memory load, which was at 76%.
I dunno what I did.. but any ideas how to get it back?
I'm going to try battery calibrating once this battery gets recharged in a couple hours!

Honestly... if you're still running 2.1, then it's likely time to move on. I'm not sure what rom you're using or if you're even rooted... but in my experience, some roms degrade over long periods of time.
It sounds like you really don't like redoing all your set ups. There are a few apps and other tools to help make it a little less of a pain.
I wouldn't even try to fix it, I would just bite the bullet... do a complete and total wipe.. and enjoy one of the many fine 2.2 roms or CMs 2.3 rom.
Android 2.2 is such an overall upgrade over 2.1, I'm somewhat perplexed as to why you wouldn't be using it.
**edit** Obviously you're rooted if you're using setcpu. You can troubleshoot a lot of different things.. but it isn't worth it IMO. I hope you do a total wipe and at least try a 2.2 rom, it's such a difference over 2.1. If I can be of any help, let me know.

I agree, move on to 2.2 or 2.3
Alot of apps are being updated for 2.2 so they may not have the support they used to. Make like nike and just do it.
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In all out honesty.. I have a lot of apps I'd have to re-download and install and yeah.. I'm scared to do it.
I did my wife's Moment and it went ok, and she seems happier now!
So instead of me trying to fix the wheel, I'll just put a new one on.
I'd like to goto Gingerbread, but I want the 4G because I'm in a 4G area.
I could live without it for now..
and I'm going to stop making excuses!
thanks all!

[Q] Anyone considering returning the E4GT due to bad battery life?

I am one of the unfortunate souls who is experiencing terrible battery life due to the AndroidOS bug. I feel like I spend half my waking hours trying to figure out what is causing it and doing different things to my phone improve my battery life.
I'm definitely getting sick of it and while I realize that Samsung/Sprint may eventually come out with a software update that fixes the problem, I'm not sure I'm willing to wait since it could take months (and the issue was supposedly fixed for GS2 phones in 2.3.4).
At this point, I'm considering going back to the Moto Photon--it's battery life is simply amazing. My only issue with the Moto is its unusable camera.
Anyone else getting as frustrated as I am and considering jumping ship to another phone?

What have you done to fix it?
Are you saying that you still have the bug even aftera factory reset ?

Why not just take it back and have them give you a new one since you obviously have a defective phone?
Also how many hours are you actually getting out of the battery?
I don't see any other phone worth switching to and I have had them all. Each with their own specific problem. But this one here is as good as it gets
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

nabbed said:
What have you done to fix it?
Are you saying that you still have the bug even aftera factory reset ?
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I've tried just about everything that has been mentioned in the AndroidOS/battery life thread (reset, wifi, autosync) but I'm still getting only 12 hours of battery life on a good day, 8 hours on a bad day
I might try exchanging the phone, but I'm hesitant to do so due to the LOS bug (I have not experienced this with my phone as of yet).
Honestly, while I love the phone in many other ways, I'm about to throw the thing out the window since 8 hours of battery life is simply not acceptable to me

limeaid said:
but I'm still getting only 12 hours of battery life on a good day, 8 hours on a bad day
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That doesn't mean anything to me. What's the display on time? How good/bad is the cellular signal?

Exchange it bro. Ive had two of these phones so far and none had this problem. I'm getting like 24-30 hours battery with like 4-5 hours screen on time. This phone had awesome battery. Download an apps called better battery stats. This will show wakelocks and processes that are draining the battery. Good luck man.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

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That doesn't mean anything to me. What's the display on time? How good/bad is the cellular signal?
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On a good day, the display is on for less than 30-45 min. On a bad day, the phone display time is somewhere between 90-120 minutes.

I pulled 16 hours ojt of my battery yesterday with over 12 on wifi and i was at 40 percent. I have to use wifi at work as i have no signal and when i do get signal its roaming. I would say that my conditions at work are far from ideal but this phone is great. My old phone would die before 1130(evo shift).
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limeaid said:
On a good day, the display is on for less than 30-45 min. On a bad day, the phone display time is somewhere between 90-120 minutes.
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Yeah bro that's awful. I would take that back immediately. There is no sense in that. U definitely have a bug in that phone. Good luck.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.

madsquabbles said:
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
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I had the issue with the stock kernel and custom kernels. I'm just going to hold out until we can get a AOSP build and hope that using as little of Samsung's code fixes it.

madsquabbles said:
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
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I'm on stock and have nothing out of the ordinary installed. Out of curiosity, do you have a google account with full sync turned on?

Lol 8 12 hours isn't bad with a stock battery and 4.5 inch screen. If you are in a poor reception area it could be that. Otherwise you have alot of Apps running in the background.
My advice : root it and extended battery.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium

limeaid said:
I'm on stock and have nothing out of the ordinary installed. Out of curiosity, do you have a google account with full sync turned on?
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I average 15-20 hours easily on a charge, with a full sync google account
Everything Sync'd Listed below:
- Google+ Notifications
- Music
- Books
- Contacts
- Gmail
- Picasa Web Albums
- Calendar
If anything else can be Sync'd I have not run across it. I also have my Tapatalk set to notify me of PM's, and updates to Subscribed topics, I removed the accuweather widget because it only updates every 3 hours and installed Weatherbug Elite and set it to update every 30 minutes. On top of all that I browse the web regularly to visit sites that are websense'd at work, and I play dungeon hunter 2, and asphalt 6 on my lunch break. At home the phone sits on my desk until its time to pass out, only used for my Rift Mobile authenticator.

This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"

Why does the bug seem to affect the gs2 more than other phones? For example, I've never seen it mentioned on the photon forums
ajamer said:
This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
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Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA App

ajamer said:
This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
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I didn't have this problem on my evo and I don't have it on my gs2.
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i use my phone a lot while im at school throughout the day , i last using wifi and 3g, and if needed i can do a quick charge while i study in the car but i lasted to 60% using 3g for a few hours

[Q] Defy+ Temporary bricking due to overheating?

Yeah, got a major issue: My Defy+ is overheating and I usually end up with a blocked phone, which ends up being useless for about 4-5 hours. And it's becoming more often.
I have 2.3.4 on it, but I seriously doubt 2.3.6 solves this issue.
Any tips?

Deformat said:
Any tips?
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Try custom ROM's and DO NOT flash 2.3.6 full sbf as it's quite buggy and you'll be stuck with it.

You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?

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You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?
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How could I do that?
Also, I get it for no reason whatsoever. It gets overheated and that's it. I left it to cool about 4 God damn hours, and yet when I open it it works a bit, then it gets stuck. It's as if the memory isn't well processed.
To give ya an example, I left it over night and even charged it. Everything went fine.Then, got to school, got a break, wanted to listen to a song. Fine, listened to a song. A guy wanted to waste some time on Opera Mini with his Ikariam game. Fine, let him waste that 1 tab and browse online.
But then, when he gave it to me it was stuck.
Wait a lot of time to stop it via Android's button, did it eventually. Left it to cool 2 hours, tried again. Again, after less than 3 minutes of usage (wanted to share a file via bluetooth, but got to the folder only) it got stuck again. This time it was pointless, 30 minutes later I wasn't able to stop it so I took the battery off.
I kinda don't know if I should change it or still have faith in it.
Right now stuff seems worse. Sometimes it reboots itself, but that doesn't help with anything IMO.
BTW, would the 1% battery patch help? Might put that 720p functionality in there as well.

As Auris said, try flashing a custom ROM (CM7.2 is a good choice, stable and fast enough). For undervolting (if you are on a stock ROM only - because CM7 has a built-in CPU manager, accessible from the bootmenu) ), install SetVsel from the Play Store. Like PC overclocking/undervolting, be careful about the values you choose. You'll find a thread in the General section about SetVsel values.
If these ideas don't help you solve your problem, I think it might be hardware related.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

My defy+ gets really hot on just about everything except stock! Undervolting didn't help, nor underclocking. Putting it in the fridge temporarily helped, but when I started using it again the temp climbed again!
What should I do? :-/
Sent from my Defy+ using Tapatalk 2 Beta

Well, since you flashed custom ROMs (unlike the OP), how about the baseband? I remember that when I flashed CM7 for the first time I didn't get 3G signal and the phone was overheating because the signal was too poor for the baseband that I used. Switched between a few and finally managed to get one with good signal and 2G/3G/3.5G working fine.

I never use 3G, so I've never bothered changing it. By the way... what are the differences between basebands with the same frequencies?
Could flashing a different kernel solve it?
Sent from my Defy+ using Tapatalk 2 Beta

Well, there are different regions - I don't know the technical details, but maybe some basebands work better with certain network operators. It's a trial&error method, you could choose one that works better or one that performs worse.
Regarding the kernel: I have no idea about the heat dissipation, but from what I've read there is a GB kernel that supposedly has better battery life. Ask Auris, he uses it (it's the kernel by walter79).

Okay, seems the issue solved itself, since now it works perfectly :|
I didn't play a game, which was kinda retarded: low quality, a simple Android game, and playing Temple Run/Angry Birds/ Angry Birds Space didn't give you me any issue.
I don't get it.

Battery overheating / draining

There is something going on with my phone, Samsung Galaxy S3, V4.3 where occasionally, lately it has been once a day the power draw from the battery will spike as high as 2,000ma (2 amps). This last long enough to drop the charge 10 - 20% and creates excessive battery heat. It happens on charge or off charge. I have tried viewing the running processes with System Tuner and nothing shows up in the list using an excessive amount of CPU. Better Battery Staus also doesn't pinpoint the problem. I have most everything Greenified accept Google stuff of course and useful stuff like email, etc. I now believe it could be connected with GPS since I turned off the GPS I have not had another event other than a 800ma spikes that quickly go away. Need more time to confirm it is GPS related. Are there any programs that will log which applications are using GPS? Any other ideas what could be the problem? I don't understand why System Tuner doesn't show me which process is eating the battery? Can anyone point me in the right direction.

I thonk it may be the radio itself. I have recently noticed similar issues on mine but its usually when streaming videos. I rarely use gps so i cant speak on that right now.
If i have it plugged in while doing this, it gets hot enough to trigger a shutdown due to thermal event....it crashes!

DocHoliday77 said:
I thonk it may be the radio itself. I have recently noticed similar issues on mine but its usually when streaming videos. I rarely use gps so i cant speak on that right now.
If i have it plugged in while doing this, it gets hot enough to trigger a shutdown due to thermal event....it crashes!
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Same here, I also noticed with System Tuner that several applications that normally use 1% or less of CPU seem to spike to 8 - 30%. This all seem very odd. Now I am wondering if the background radio steals CPU cycles and leaves no time for normal applications. Anyway, the issues are reduced with GPS off although the battery does get warm sometimes without any reason I can fine. I'll try streaming audio and see if it triggers.
I would be willing to try a different radio. My current software is Model Number SGH-T999, Android version 4.3, BaseBand version T999UVUENC2, Kernel 3.0.31-1962493, Build number JSS15J.T999UVUENC2.

Unfortunately, no other radio will work. You can try one just to be sure about it. It wont brick, but just wont function. Youll have unknown imei and baseband until you flash the NC2 modem back.
Im currently running my port of S3Rx 4.0, but ill flash back to NC2 in a couple if days to test more on mine. Im also using a case/housing not meant for the T999 so theres a good chance that is contributing to my problems though.

DocHoliday77 said:
Unfortunately, no other radio will work. You can try one just to be sure about it. It wont brick, but just wont function. Youll have unknown imei and baseband until you flash the NC2 modem back.
Im currently running my port of S3Rx 4.0, but ill flash back to NC2 in a couple if days to test more on mine. Im also using a case/housing not meant for the T999 so theres a good chance that is contributing to my problems though.
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Okay, thank you for the replies. Please stop by if you learn anything new. Velis Auto Brightness is up to 64% CPU usage, grrr. I posted on developers forum maybe troubleshooting that will lead to a fix. The 2 amp spikes haven't occurred since I disabled GPS, so I am guess you are correct about the radio.

The problem returned so turning off GPS isn't a complete fix, seems to reduce the frequency is all. It looks like Android System is the problem. If I shut down pull the battery reboot the bad behaviour continues, only fix seems to wait it out. My next phone most likely will not be a sammy.

Im not really sure what to suggest at this point. I can say that what we are experiencing isnt typical though.
Out of curiosity, have you given any of the ported kk roms a try? I think my Sprint port is probably the most stable/bug free, but they are all good and ive had pretty good battery on each one compared stock. (Ive always had good battery life even on stock though, aside from a few recent issues that I believe are more my own fault). TMS3KK is a solid rom with very few issues. S3Rx 4.0 is as well, but ill be posting an update to it hopefully later today, so I cant say its really been thoroughly vetted yet. Still worth a look though, imo.

DocHoliday77 said:
Im not really sure what to suggest at this point. I can say that what we are experiencing isnt typical though.
Out of curiosity, have you given any of the ported kk roms a try? I think my Sprint port is probably the most stable/bug free, but they are all good and ive had pretty good battery on each one compared stock. (Ive always had good battery life even on stock though, aside from a few recent issues that I believe are more my own fault). TMS3KK is a solid rom with very few issues. S3Rx 4.0 is as well, but ill be posting an update to it hopefully later today, so I cant say its really been thoroughly vetted yet. Still worth a look though, imo.
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No time to try a different ROM yet. I should have time the weekend after next. Thank you for all your suggestions.

I tried replacing the battery. After the first charge the phone lasted for 2 days before the battery dropped to 5%. It took 6 hours to charge back to 100%. No problems until later, it seems to dislike being unplugged moved to a new location and plugged in again. This appears to be when the problem occurs. I usually just leave the phone plugged in all the time. I'll test further with the power before I make up my mind. I think this will be the last Sammy phone for me?

Is it a non stock battery? I've always had issues with those reporting correctly.
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Is it a non stock battery? I've always had issues with those reporting correctly.
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Usually I would buy a non stock battery however since this phone lays next to me in bed to wake me in the mornings I am a little concerned with a fire so it is a Samsung battery from Samsung. Leaving it unplugged for a bit and plugging it back in didn't work stop the battery drain. There are no processes eating the battery according to System Tuner so got to change the ROM.
Should I try a ROM first or kernel or both? Could it be an Xposed module, thinking about turning all of those hacks off?
I just remembered, this only happens if the screen is on and the phone is plugged into the charger. And rebooting doesn't clear the problem.

I would start with a stock based ROM. If it were me I'd go full stock rooted. But yeah I'd ditch xposed for now. You might even try reflashing your current ROM, factory resetting and this time don't use any exposed mods. If it still has problems, then try a different ROM.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find xposed was the culprit. Its really cool, and the dev is amazing, but I prefer not to use it at all. IMO, it's much better to have the mods coded into the ROM itself.
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I would start with a stock based ROM. If it were me I'd go full stock rooted. But yeah I'd ditch xposed for now. You might even try reflashing your current ROM, factory resetting and this time don't use any exposed mods. If it still has problems, then try a different ROM.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find xposed was the culprit. Its really cool, and the dev is amazing, but I prefer not to use it at all. IMO, it's much better to have the mods coded into the ROM itself.
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Thank you Doc, will do so and report back here the results.

My phone does the same thing now. My phone never did this when I first got it a couple years ago. I use GPS a lot because son plays on a travel hockey team. I could drive 3 - 4 hours away with the phone on and plugged in using the GPS without any issues. Now, my phone gets so hot in about an hour of the same type of use and it shuts down.
I thought that maybe there was something wrong with the phone because of age but now I see it could be something different.

It very well could be age related, or it could be partially due to that too. But I'd do as I suggested above and run stock for a bit to test. If on a custom rom, and especially kernel, you could run into issues like that too.
If you have the same problem on stock, (and you're sure its not an app acting up), there's a very good possibility that its more of a hardware related issue.
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And it is not the battery. I can't load stock until next weekend, need my phone for work.

You can always use better battery stats to investigate while you use it normally. Let it log all wakelocks, including kernel wakelocks for a full cycle.
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You can always use better battery stats to investigate while you use it normally. Let it log all wakelocks, including kernel wakelocks for a full cycle.
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Tried that, been there, odd thing is nothing shows there. I'm gonna reload with stock per your suggestion next weekend and if that doesn't work I'll try a custom kernel.

Try remove greenify app and see what happens. Cuz with my case the latest version (2.4.x.x) of greenify driving my phone nuts. That app used to be great.

I'm back. Loaded stock 4.3 ROM / kernel, radio is at newest versions, I am going to say the problem is gone. The battery heats up to about 32-33 degrees Celsius however the phone isn't hot like it is burning up so I believe the problem is like Doc suggested earlier with the radio. Which would explain why the process monitors never see any rouge application using to much CPU. So after some pondering, this doesn't stop a rouge application from using to much bandwidth and cooking the radio so to type. If I had to pin it down I am going to suggest it maybe one of these two applications: FCC speedtest and or Opensignal or some other application. Both of the listed applications periodically test the network bandwidth and report back to a central server. I suspect that this maybe trigger the heat problem from the extend radio usage. No proof at this time just conjecture.
I am considering jumping to an AOSP ROM to be free of the Samsung bloat, NOT CM, don't care for CM, does anyone have any good suggestions to try?

Overheating --> Network/Device Lag? Marshmallow, M9

I know my way around Android well enough I could probably teach a class. I've been excited for the Marshmallow update for my Verizon M9, mostly for the security update. Now I've got it, and udderly hate it. Not only is this marshmallow über soft and squishy, it's somehow managed to swallow the majority of my CPU--much like BOB from Monsters vs Aliens. Actually, the update is more like BOB than a delicious couple of calories. Tremendous lag from god knows where, constant freezing and other **** when in hpm--whether it be plugged in or not--which often crashes apps altogether or causes a reboot, keyboard latency of about 1.5seconds, network disconnecting when the device exceeds 120℉, ooh!, and the cherry on top: loss of data. I use my phone for both business/class-related stuff and for gaming/pleasure(shh, creeps) because I'm too broke to buy anything else. The front-facing speakers get glitcy and doing that pausing crap like when you drive outta radio range in a car. This was never a problem with Lollipop, but is making Android a living hell to deal with. MHL has yet to work on Marshmallow, and instead simply crashes the phone. Again. Can't find ANYthing ANYwhere about this. Both Verizon and HTC are refusing to talk to me directly about it; keep getting passed to the next rep, who tries to put me through their template of troubleshooting steps. Wiping cache partition worked...for all of ten minutes. If that. HTC wants to take my phone for two weeks, which won't work due to classes.
Full stock M9. I use App Mgr III for new moving apps quickly, App Cache Cleaner because I'm lazy, and Greenify to kill some stuff that I've got, e.g., Ingress, Skype, snapchat. Greenify does NOT allow killing of bloatware/pre-installed crap, so let me tape the mouths of those twits shut now. Most pre-installed apps, including all but two of the Verizon things, are disabled.
The game I notice the most trouble on is Walking War Robots, can't tell if it has to do with graphics or the processor itself. Chrome browser is quite laggy; Drive is almost unresponsive as is Docs; have lost quite a bit of data from Microsoft Word, both saved and documents being worked on. Reception is also quite a bit worse with the Marshmallow update, calls being dropped more frequently and location often having trouble pinpointing me on high-accuracy.
As I do NOT have a computer, reseting the device is not an option. The recaptcha thingy took almost 30 seconds to load; on Lollipop, they took less than five.

I fully agree with you. My experience with marshmallow has only been negative so far.
1) Incredibly Laggy. Back in the day, installing a kitkat or lollipop rom, the phone would be super fluid and would only slightly lag when installing the 50 apps. God forbid when I was installing marshmallow it seriously hung like 5 seconds and was going at maximum 10fps.
2) Heat. The phone appears to get even warmer now. How is that even possible?
3) Battery Life. My battery appears to be 10% worse. I used to only charge it at night but now I have to charge it after work around 8pm.
I do have some hope though. I'm waiting for Neo or Santod to compile a debloated rom and hoping that clears up these issues.

I was experiencing terrible lag, it seems to be settling down now. I was overheating, but that seems to have settled as well. Biggest problem is that I'm only charging at 550mA with a 2A quick charger. That's new, and totally unacceptable. Also, HTC emojis are gone. All I have are the stupid jellybean/potato looking guys and I can't decipher which emotion they are trying to relay. Chics dig emojis, and here I am feeling emoji blind.
Edit: Lag is still terrible

In the same boat.. this update is not good. This phone is so laggy and slow now it's like my OG Droid 1 from years ago. Cleared cache after installing.. waited the obligatory 45 minutes to rebuild stuff. Uninstalled the bloatware I could and it literally took minutes to do a simple uninstall. Hasn't got any better in the last day at all. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two I'll have to go back to Lollipop. This is probably the most buggy, laggy, battery killing Android update I've seen on any of my Android phones since Droid 1 days. Anyone else getting this or know of any kind of fix? I just can't imagine HTC and VZW pushed this out if problems like these are a common occurrence.

I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)

Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.

I was having many heat/lag issues as described above when I flashed the zip dirty or clean. I had to do a RUU with the MM update. Now it's super smooth. Still get lots of heat when the system is booting up for the first time/settling in. But after that, no issues.

how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?

baune7 said:
Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.
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Yea you will have to root. The thing is, Venom is literally a STOCK rooted M9 that has all bloat cut away and 1 small app for additional features (like changing status bar and power button for flashlight.). It is well worth it.
baune7 said:
how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?
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Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.

im_high_tech said:
Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.
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I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.

mcampos7 said:
I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.
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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness

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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness
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It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.

mcampos7 said:
It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.
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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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I'm also on the elemental kernel

im_high_tech said:
I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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-450mA atm using xda app & hangouts
Now -60
-320

Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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I can barely get my phone to charge. I'm going back to L. If I nand back, do I need to flash 5.1 firmware or isn't hate covered in the nand?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.

4.3 Request
im_high_tech said:
I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)
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Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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Mmmm, but my original post was about the M9. Not the M8. They're similar, but the M8 has a superior processor. Imo it'd be amaz to have my custom (and unfortunately shattered) M8's processors and RAM in my M9. Fix all these issues. But, alas.....
baune7 said:
This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.
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In scale, that prolly equates to about 70% of my normal day, minus gaming. Right now I'm getting through about 30% of my day, minus gaming, before needing a charge. Even with QC, charging takes about 40% longer than it did on Lollipop.
Still neither factory reset nor rooting is an option, as I have nothing to back my stuff up on. No, the local library isn't kind enough to me for that lol.

Snoopy679 said:
Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759884409