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Now weve had a play

Ok so now weve all had a decent play with our OX whats everyones thoughts?
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Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.

Are you considering a switch i lv put the ox back in the box an using my gs2 in hope a fix comes via OTA for all the little bugs
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Arthur Hucksake said:
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
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Arthur. You're boring.
If your device is that bad then send it back as it's clear you're having a lot more problems than everyone else.

no problems here in anyway battery life is fine handset running smooth and fastttttt....................superb device love mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After I found a way to move my Angry bird space progress without Titanium backup, I'm content using un-rooted one x for now.
I'd like to use Adblock for web browsing and Autostarts to stop some apps from running, but ICS RAM management seems to be working fine.
Battery life seems OK, got 3 hrs 40 mins with full screen brightness and 3G on 2nd full charge.

Arthur Hucksake said:
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
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I get fantastic battery life!

DaveDesire said:
Arthur. You're boring.
If your device is that bad then send it back as it's clear you're having a lot more problems than everyone else.
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I will send it back after the bank holiday IF I can get an RMA off Handtec.
I won't quit moaning about it, the OP asked for an opinion so I gave it. It's a big chunk of change to put down on a device to have something important let you down.
It's hard to appreciate a device when you can only get 3 hours screen time off a 3 hour charge.
It totally undoes all of the good work HTC have done with it. If you took the battery life of say an iPhone 4 and applied it here, it would be hands down the best piece of kit ever to come out. Literally.
I wouldn't use it as often at home because that is what the laptop and high end gaming PC is there for, so when out and about without access to a plug socket you want it to be at least reasonable. It seriously isn't.
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.

Battery isn't great but its nothing different than other android phones.

ok so having had it since 7am this morning i must say its amazing, its buttery smooth, not had 1 bit of lag or stutter,
as it stands atm its currently on 9 hours 17 mins and the use i have been doing is
downloaded 7 apps,
installed gta3 from tegra zone which the download to play is 492mb over wifi,
took about 30 odd pics 2 videos 35 secs each
phone calls for about 45 mins total
set up dropbox,browsed ebay for 7 mins and brought 2 items,
ran 4x benchmarks
browesed market place for about 10 mins
sent and recieved around 40 texts,
played around on facebook,
as im a phone shop manager i treated myself for a comparison on it with
the razr
xperia s
s2
my nexus s
mainly cameras , benchmarks speed tests, really testing day .
1 major astonishment i found was
i managed to take come off lock screen boot camera-take a pic before the xperia s got into camera mode. winner,
but so far so good no issues from me and my sexy white x
cheers,

Arthur Hucksake said:
I will send it back after the bank holiday IF I can get an RMA off Handtec.
I won't quit moaning about it, the OP asked for an opinion so I gave it. It's a big chunk of change to put down on a device to have something important let you down.
It's hard to appreciate a device when you can only get 3 hours screen time off a 3 hour charge.
It totally undoes all of the good work HTC have done with it. If you took the battery life of say an iPhone 4 and applied it here, it would be hands down the best piece of kit ever to come out. Literally.
I wouldn't use it as often at home because that is what the laptop and high end gaming PC is there for, so when out and about without access to a plug socket you want it to be at least reasonable. It seriously isn't.
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
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Whats the problem,
At the moment, I'm getting a very similar screen on time to my SGS2 (3+hrs) & my HTC ONE X screen is much brighter then I ever had it on my SGS2.
Its also a known fact (due to reviewers) that 1.27, which we don't have yet, 'dramatically' improves battery life with 1.28 'rumoured' to extend it even further!

Arthur Hucksake said:
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
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I guess it is the chance we take on buying the device at launch, there always going to be problems both hardware and software we sometime so-called "bata tester" get stuck with.
You could just return it and wait for couple of months to see if HTC made any improvmements.

chrisjcks said:
Whats the problem,
At the moment, I'm getting a very similar screen on time to my SGS2 (3+hrs) & my HTC ONE X screen is much brighter then I ever had it on my SGS2.
Its also a known fact (due to reviewers) that 1.27, which we don't have yet, 'dramatically' improves battery life with 1.28 'rumoured' to extend it even further!
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That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.

Arthur Hucksake said:
That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
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You clearly didn't get a DHD or sensation on launch, they had problems and I'm sure I can't remember your username popping up a million times
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Arthur Hucksake said:
That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
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Even without the update, your still getting a battery life very similar to Samsungs current flagship device (which has had a few software updates) - this is with a much brighter screen, a larger HD screen & a quad core processor when compared to the SGS2.
Are you just pissed you haven't got the 1.27 update (& don't know when you will...), or do you really think the battery is that bad?
I know 1.27 is gonna improve the battery, but even in its current state - when I compare it, it ain't that bad compared to the competition.

chrisjcks said:
Even without the update, your still getting a battery life very similar to Samsungs current flagship device (which has had a few software updates) - this is with a much brighter screen, a larger HD screen & a quad core processor when compared to the SGS2.
Are you just pissed you haven't got the 1.27 update (& don't know when you will...), or do you really think the battery is that bad?
I know 1.27 is gonna improve the battery, but even in its current state - when I compare it, it ain't that bad compared to the competition.
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I had the SGS2 and the battery life is better than what we got here, seriously.
And I did have a Sensation around launch , it was glitchy but again the battery life was not this poor.
But it could also be a case of not noticing it as much because I could carry a spare battery if need be, but never felt the need to use it.
Today our car broke down on the motorway and after calling the RAC then having to get a tow, the battery was nearly depleted and I had the worry of whether it would last long enough to take the call from when they arrived.
Then having to send a few texts to let people know we wouldn't be getting there, just how on earth are you meant to appreciate the greatness of this phone with the constant battery worries?
Random point, but do this.
Go into the Play store, scroll down the free apps for a short while, then check your battery status. 3 or 4% down having done practically nothing.

Such are the risks of getting a v1.0 anything I'm afraid, it will almost always not be as good as v1.1+. You take the chance of having initial issues vs. having the latest greatest device first. This has always been the way, some of the early release iPhones have had terrible problems until receiving patches.
At the moment I'm loving the phone, I don't think the battery is all that bad so far, but looking forward to the updates making it better, I'm certainly happy with the choice I made, no question.

SartoriXX said:
Such are the risks of getting a v1.0 anything I'm afraid, it will almost always not be as good as v1.1+. You take the chance of having initial issues vs. having the latest greatest device first. This has always been the way, some of the early release iPhones have had terrible problems until receiving patches.
At the moment I'm loving the phone, I don't think the battery is all that bad so far, but looking forward to the updates making it better, I'm certainly happy with the choice I made, no question.
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Think I will try a swap out for another, see how that fares. If it is exactly the same then atleast I know i've given it a fair roll of the dice.
It's like I am really hoping there is something wrong with mine, and the battery isn't how it's meant to be but the pattern is common on here and usage stats are all pretty much the same.
I wouldn't say its right to compare it to the iPhone neither. HTC have had plenty of time to get this right. I've had the Hero> Desire > Sensation and now this. Each time I keep expecting them to "get it right" and they never quite make it.
The craziest thing is, the Hero is still my pick of the bunch judging by how I felt at the time and the fact I added a hench battery and made it even better.

i think alot of users were expecting too much from the phone massive hype led to a kick in the nuts for some .. ????take the phone as it is, if battery is going to make or break your decision then a machine like this maybe isnt for you.
end of the day it is android 4 with sense 4 big screen quad core - expect battery to be poor until you have a few cycles and updates are sent out, dhd was worse i had 2 off them....
cheers

Im getting my HTC One X on Tuesday next week from phones4u hopefully, cant wait!. But ive read such a difference in people experiences with the battery life of this phone that im not sure what to make of it! lol, ill just have to wait and see I guess and report back how i find it, it promising to see that the majority, correct me if im wrong, of UK users seem to be reporting good battery life though!

So what's the real deal with the HOX?

I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.

Had mine for 2 weeks, HT24VW - Made in Taiwan
1. Signal and reception has been perfect might be first models.
2. Read somewhere the multitasking has been fixed with custom rom
3. Mine never gets hot, played 20 min of GTA3 and you would call it warm.
4. Screen Flickering - Havent seen any even at low battery.
Battery: heavy use i would get 3:30 on screen(using 3G all day no wifi). Medium use: i had once 4:45 but. Totally happy with the HOX gets me through one day easy and that's all it need to do, every night it goes on charge regardless if its 70% charge left or 10% charge.

Im picking up a unit with sh23 serial is that one good?

kingofthebraves said:
I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.
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1. Better than Galaxy S2, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus IMO. Except from Sensation, my Desire and One X performs the best in terms of signal(wifi, data) and reception. Infact, i have data drops the most on Galaxy Nexus cuz of 4.0.4 update(omg so frustrating!)
2. This is yeah a problem i think but 1.29 update kinda fix this, generally. after 1.29, i'm having the same experience as Gnex multitasking. well that is based on my usage.
3. Heating? hmm i got this in any smartphones i own these days except tablets. My SGS2 and Gnexus got hot the most cuz they are slim. But then, using twitter and facebook never gets hot in any of my smartphones. Just heavy browsing and gaming will increase the heat.
4. I dont have screen flickering but some says the custom kernels fix them so i think its not a hardware issue.
i have a sh24 models, and btw, sold my Gnexus for the sake of One X. I never regret it.

kingofthebraves said:
Im picking up a unit with sh23 serial is that one good?
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should be okay although 23 is quite an early model.
25+ are generally considered to be more fault free but then i have a HT23 and it's fine.
I should have added i came from a G Nexus and it's (the one x) is in a completely different league. The screen alone is just simply jaw dropping.

best phone and wifi signal i've ever had on my release day (UK) HOX
screen flicker was addressed in the 1.29.xxx.11 update and has been resolved

kingofthebraves said:
I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.
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1. Signal and reception has been perfect since day one for me, I had a Galaxy Nexus before my One X and the reception is definitely on par (can't say whether it's better or not, never done a proper test).
2. Multi-tasking was never a real issue and was only more of a mild annoyance because it was set to be far too aggresive. This was allegedly fixed through OTA's and is definitely fixed in custom ROMs.
3. Overheating can be a problem when playing games but if you're rooted you can disable 2 of the CPU cores (4 is overkill) which drastically reduces the heat problem.
4. Can't really comment on this as only the minority of users have experienced it.
The screen on the One X will blow you away after the Galaxy Nexus, trust me!

This phone craps all over anything I've had, sure it's newer better faster but it's leap years ahead of my last phone, the HTC Velocity, and that came out only a few months beforehand.

Thinking of buying HTC One X

Hey,
I'm thinking of buying this phone, and was wondering if there was anything else about it that I needed to know from a user point of view (apart from WiFi hardware issues)?
Many Thanks,
Kanay

The phone is very nice, both in looks in and in speed and performance.
But, if you are a type of person that uses the phone a lot, then you should know that the battery life isn't the best. It's not bad, but you will have to charge it twice a day if you play a lot of games.
Otherwise it's a brilliant phone with very nice support from talented developers and chefs..

Search! We have plenty of threads like this.

Buying HTC ONE X
kanay2000 said:
Hey,
I'm thinking of buying this phone, and was wondering if there was anything else about it that I needed to know from a user point of view (apart from WiFi hardware issues)?
Many Thanks,
Kanay
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HTC ONE X , very Good Camera and Beat Sound , But battery drain fast and Overheat around camera area,also after play game for 5 to 10 minute become hot ,if u want to install custom font the only thing is u have to root or unlock bootloader, if u can accept is ok , service center is very bad in SG, i already done one to one for 4 time , that is really bad , but after last one to one is stable , compare with S3 camera and sound is better than S3, but any way i like HTC one X ,

buy it1, is awesome!!!

You should probably buy the AT&T one, since the S4 is faster than the Tegra 3

You need to know that hox is best cell phone in earth. You will love it.
Htc One X Venom ViperX Rom & faux123 b004b7 Kernel

I'm also wondering if I should I get the HOX. How much screen time do you guys get? I currently get 6 hrs of screen time with my atrix so I was wondering if you guys get more with the HOX.

Atrix_Owner said:
I'm also wondering if I should I get the HOX. How much screen time do you guys get? I currently get 6 hrs of screen time with my atrix so I was wondering if you guys get more with the HOX.
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3-4 hours. Check one of the many battery threads.

Atrix_Owner said:
I'm also wondering if I should I get the HOX. How much screen time do you guys get? I currently get 6 hrs of screen time with my atrix so I was wondering if you guys get more with the HOX.
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With stock unrooted, I get 4h screen and 18h standby. With custom I get 5h. Remember its a massive screen and I have the brightness pretty high.
I think its the best phone right now. If you absolutely need swappable battery and microsd get Samsung s3. But its ugly, the screen sucks and it doesn't sound som good.
I tried both and went for the HOX.

how to assure that i wont have the screen flickering issue and the wifi hardware problem before buying it? i looked into the local shops and all of the have SH/HT 25 models. in the store how can i check the screen flickering or whether the set has wifi hardware issue. please help. in deep dilemma.

When I got my phone new, the battery was flat.
After 3.5 months, the soft buttons died,
When I picked it up after repair, battery was flat.
You might find it hard.
There is a thread with instructions for checking in store, in General section, I think.

Best phone I've had this year. It's difficult to judge the wifi problem in store or on early days as it could occur at anytime. The flickering screen issues have been fixed with the 1.2.9 kernel and I've not experienced any flickering since.
Most of the newer batches should be fine but the odd one can have QC issues.
Your in the UK as well we have rules which allow us to return an item back within 7 days and you get a full refund. So if you get a dud device your eligible for a refund or replacement depending where you are thinking of buying it from. Amazon give you 30 days which is excellent.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

The phone is amazing. It is fast and beautiful and it has a lot of people making custom roms and features for it. The only thing you should be careful with is the screen, it get's scratched somewhat easy. You should buy a screen protector and apply it on the phone as soon as you buy it.

Should I Keep It Or Sell It?

I know this is probably crazy sounding to some but I just got my Xperia ZL c6506 in the mail yesterday but haven't unboxed it because I read several threads the day before about it having battery issues and not coming back on....At first I thought it was a small issue but apparently there are several of these phones that have had this issue. I would appreciate some feedback now before I open the box....

devo3d said:
I know this is probably crazy sounding to some but I just got my Xperia ZL c6506 in the mail yesterday but haven't unboxed it because I read several threads the day before about it having battery issues and not coming back on....At first I thought it was a small issue but apparently there are several of these phones that have had this issue. I would appreciate some feedback now before I open the box....
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Dude
No cell phone is free of problems ot doesnot mean we stop buying them n using them..go ahead open it up n.emerse in the world of xperia..not to worry
Its a masterpiece n u wont b dissappointed with it...gud luck
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unmaskedfalesh said:
Dude
No cell phone is free of problems ot doesnot mean we stop buying them n using them..go ahead open it up n.emerse in the world of xperia..not to worry
Its a masterpiece n u wont b dissappointed with it...gud luck
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LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.

devo3d said:
LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
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Really, my review on 7 months usage. Battery good, for a 5 incher phone totally depends on your usage( working days i get 2 days) weekends i have to charge at least twice a day. some heating issues( which is found in most of the devices),
Some Official Issues
IR blaster Manual function doesnt really work ( I have this, officially they don even know whats the problem with it)
Constant Mic issues, and ear piece issue (during Call) (I have mic issue)
Screen flickering (Fixed in update) but not for all.
Camera Black Spots (Again not For All)
And Right now my phone is under repair for Mic and IR Issue.
These are only negatives, now decide yourselves

coolrevi said:
Really, my review on 7 months usage. Battery good, for a 5 incher phone totally depends on your usage( working days i get 2 days) weekends i have to charge at least twice a day. some heating issues( which is found in most of the devices),
Some Official Issues
IR blaster Manual function doesnt really work ( I have this, officially they don even know whats the problem with it)
Constant Mic issues, and ear piece issue (during Call) (I have mic issue)
Screen flickering (Fixed in update) but not for all.
Camera Black Spots (Again not For All)
And Right now my phone is under repair for Mic and IR Issue.
These are only negatives, now decide yourselves
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Thank you, your input is very helpful. I've read about those issues also. This phone seems to have more bugs than the original XZ.
I sure hate to get rid of it...its such a pretty phone and well engineered. All the bugs seem to be from manufacturing, that would be quality control on the companies I guess. Sony should have done better with this being the so called successor to the Z.

I want to sell mine and buy a Nexus 5, pretty good phone
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Well i can say my xperia ZL C6502 dont have any of does issues mentioned. no flickering, IR blaster work perfect, no black pixels on camera, great battery, mic, speaker and earpiece are working perfect. and not heating issues also. i just really love it.

I can confirm what the poster above me said. Back when I had stock rom installed, I could use IR blaster on different devices and even let it learn new commands, no single problem.
And the heating issue some are facing, it's due to the poor coded rom... If you install CM10.2 it takes your phone way longer to heat up.

maclancer said:
I want to sell mine and buy a Nexus 5, pretty good phone
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I guess we'll both have to wait in line....Google is sold out and Ebay's prices are through the roof. :silly:

danieldp1990 said:
Well i can say my xperia ZL C6502 dont have any of does issues mentioned. no flickering, IR blaster work perfect, no black pixels on camera, great battery, mic, speaker and earpiece are working perfect. and not heating issues also. i just really love it.
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I wonder what the differences are in the two models that have such a swing on problems? I got the 6506 for the LTE band....Straight Talk has LTE now and its Prepay...I used it on my ONE X+ and it was great.

einfachgaer said:
I can confirm what the poster above me said. Back when I had stock rom installed, I could use IR blaster on different devices and even let it learn new commands, no single problem.
And the heating issue some are facing, it's due to the poor coded rom... If you install CM10.2 it takes your phone way longer to heat up.
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I love the feel of the phone and the features are pretty cool too....Crap, I'm just having a hard time deciding....LOL

ZL C6503 here.
On .423 stock rom (rooted) everything worked fine, no flickering, no fc's and nice camera quality.
Battery drain wasn't that high neither.
A few days ago I updated to .67 stock rom (also rooted, no other mods installed), suddenly the battery drain was crazy high, even with stamina mode enabled.
I think the problem is not on hardware side, its the poor coded rom. Most problems are software related (at least for me). Some updates seem to behave more like downgrades... For now the most stable rom was .423.
If you don't mind unlocking your bootloader (make TA backup first!), PAC rom should be the best option. It's stable as rock, gives you Android 4.3 features and the battery seems to live longer than on any stock rom.
And for the heating issue: modern 4-core-1080p-devices always struggle with heat to some extent. Depends on screen brightness and the software and games you're running.
Overall the ZL is the best phone I've ever had. It's fast, it's 'small' and packs all the goodies you like

I like the 5 incher compact size of the Xperia ZL. i believe it is the smallest available today with the thin vessel it really looks very sleek. Well that's me, form and function, it completely covers both.

I bought a 6506 - primarily because it was available for a good price...
Performance seems pretty reasonable on a "quasi" stock rom... it does heat up for me when I'm charging it and doing something - like right now I'm making a backup... that seems to heat up pretty well.
Battery drain doesn't seem too bad...
LTE performance is pretty decent... download speeds aren't terribly high in my area (range from ~ 20mb/s to ~ 26mb/s... but uploads range from ~ 6mb/s to 14mb/s... that's a significant increase from what I was getting before.
I'm unsure if I'll keep this for very long or not... I've already created a TA backup... and I'm seriously considering testing cm10.2 or some other rom...

I've had my C6506 for over half a year now, it was in perfect condition out of the box and everything worked great. LTE was nice and fast depending on coverage.
Currently using Omni ROM 4.4, it's IMO the best ROM for the phone right now, the performance is absolutely great, it feels almost like a new phone again. Everything is snappy which was an issue I had with other 4.3 based roms, they just seemed to have little pockets of lag here and there that while they were easy to ignore at the time, once I switched to 4.4 it definitely became noticeably better.
Google implemented IR support so hopefully we'll see that put to use soon for AOSP roms.
Battery life has been pretty good, I'm able to average 10-16 hours during a regular work day depending on usage, if I'm at home using only the wifi I can easily get atleast 20 hours.
I've found the phone only heats up during a few scenarios: Charging the battery, browsing the web at max brightness for an extended period of time(30+ minutes), watching videos or playing a game, and even then, the phone never gets to unbearable heat.
I would highly recommend switching to Omni ROM 4.4, but whether or not the Sony exclusive stuff is worthwhile is up to you.
For me the Sony stuff isn't worthwhile because when I first got my phone backing up the TA partition wasn't widespread knowledge, so I'll never get the DRM locked stuff again.

TheTofu said:
I've had my C6506 for over half a year now, it was in perfect condition out of the box and everything worked great. LTE was nice and fast depending on coverage.
Currently using Omni ROM 4.4, it's IMO the best ROM for the phone right now, the performance is absolutely great, it feels almost like a new phone again. Everything is snappy which was an issue I had with other 4.3 based roms, they just seemed to have little pockets of lag here and there that while they were easy to ignore at the time, once I switched to 4.4 it definitely became noticeably better.
Google implemented IR support so hopefully we'll see that put to use soon for AOSP roms.
Battery life has been pretty good, I'm able to average 10-16 hours during a regular work day depending on usage, if I'm at home using only the wifi I can easily get atleast 20 hours.
I've found the phone only heats up during a few scenarios: Charging the battery, browsing the web at max brightness for an extended period of time(30+ minutes), watching videos or playing a game, and even then, the phone never gets to unbearable heat.
I would highly recommend switching to Omni ROM 4.4, but whether or not the Sony exclusive stuff is worthwhile is up to you.
For me the Sony stuff isn't worthwhile because when I first got my phone backing up the TA partition wasn't widespread knowledge, so I'll never get the DRM locked stuff again.
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After reading your comments I might have to give that a try...
Somehow I don't think today will be the day to try 4.4 on my phone...
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I traded my galaxy S3 for the ZL. Loving it so far. Phone display is amazing and the design is sleek. Battery life is far better than S3 and I love the stock ROM very much. With S3 i've had so many lauchers and apps to make the phone look good. But with ZL I'm just using the stock ROM..everything just works the way i want..
I would definitely keep this phone..

devo3d said:
LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
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I bought a Nexus 5 and sold it 3 days later - it was smooth, and I mean pretty darn smooth in the OS, but the ZL beat it in too many ways.
Better Camera, better external speaker, IR Blaster...
I was really excited for the Nexus 5 but i liked my ZL more...and I can't even unlock the bootloader on my ZL.

scifan said:
After reading your comments I might have to give that a try...
Somehow I don't think today will be the day to try 4.4 on my phone...
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Only thing that concerns me is that I don't know if the AOSP camera app is as good as the stock camera app, it's still gonna take good photos but it's been a long time since I've had stock so I can't really compare. Could be just be me being paranoid lol.

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Only thing that concerns me is that I don't know if the AOSP camera app is as good as the stock camera app, it's still gonna take good photos but it's been a long time since I've had stock so I can't really compare. Could be just be me being paranoid lol.
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No clue on that one...
I know they had some serious issues there for a while...

Overheating --> Network/Device Lag? Marshmallow, M9

I know my way around Android well enough I could probably teach a class. I've been excited for the Marshmallow update for my Verizon M9, mostly for the security update. Now I've got it, and udderly hate it. Not only is this marshmallow über soft and squishy, it's somehow managed to swallow the majority of my CPU--much like BOB from Monsters vs Aliens. Actually, the update is more like BOB than a delicious couple of calories. Tremendous lag from god knows where, constant freezing and other **** when in hpm--whether it be plugged in or not--which often crashes apps altogether or causes a reboot, keyboard latency of about 1.5seconds, network disconnecting when the device exceeds 120℉, ooh!, and the cherry on top: loss of data. I use my phone for both business/class-related stuff and for gaming/pleasure(shh, creeps) because I'm too broke to buy anything else. The front-facing speakers get glitcy and doing that pausing crap like when you drive outta radio range in a car. This was never a problem with Lollipop, but is making Android a living hell to deal with. MHL has yet to work on Marshmallow, and instead simply crashes the phone. Again. Can't find ANYthing ANYwhere about this. Both Verizon and HTC are refusing to talk to me directly about it; keep getting passed to the next rep, who tries to put me through their template of troubleshooting steps. Wiping cache partition worked...for all of ten minutes. If that. HTC wants to take my phone for two weeks, which won't work due to classes.
Full stock M9. I use App Mgr III for new moving apps quickly, App Cache Cleaner because I'm lazy, and Greenify to kill some stuff that I've got, e.g., Ingress, Skype, snapchat. Greenify does NOT allow killing of bloatware/pre-installed crap, so let me tape the mouths of those twits shut now. Most pre-installed apps, including all but two of the Verizon things, are disabled.
The game I notice the most trouble on is Walking War Robots, can't tell if it has to do with graphics or the processor itself. Chrome browser is quite laggy; Drive is almost unresponsive as is Docs; have lost quite a bit of data from Microsoft Word, both saved and documents being worked on. Reception is also quite a bit worse with the Marshmallow update, calls being dropped more frequently and location often having trouble pinpointing me on high-accuracy.
As I do NOT have a computer, reseting the device is not an option. The recaptcha thingy took almost 30 seconds to load; on Lollipop, they took less than five.

I fully agree with you. My experience with marshmallow has only been negative so far.
1) Incredibly Laggy. Back in the day, installing a kitkat or lollipop rom, the phone would be super fluid and would only slightly lag when installing the 50 apps. God forbid when I was installing marshmallow it seriously hung like 5 seconds and was going at maximum 10fps.
2) Heat. The phone appears to get even warmer now. How is that even possible?
3) Battery Life. My battery appears to be 10% worse. I used to only charge it at night but now I have to charge it after work around 8pm.
I do have some hope though. I'm waiting for Neo or Santod to compile a debloated rom and hoping that clears up these issues.

I was experiencing terrible lag, it seems to be settling down now. I was overheating, but that seems to have settled as well. Biggest problem is that I'm only charging at 550mA with a 2A quick charger. That's new, and totally unacceptable. Also, HTC emojis are gone. All I have are the stupid jellybean/potato looking guys and I can't decipher which emotion they are trying to relay. Chics dig emojis, and here I am feeling emoji blind.
Edit: Lag is still terrible

In the same boat.. this update is not good. This phone is so laggy and slow now it's like my OG Droid 1 from years ago. Cleared cache after installing.. waited the obligatory 45 minutes to rebuild stuff. Uninstalled the bloatware I could and it literally took minutes to do a simple uninstall. Hasn't got any better in the last day at all. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two I'll have to go back to Lollipop. This is probably the most buggy, laggy, battery killing Android update I've seen on any of my Android phones since Droid 1 days. Anyone else getting this or know of any kind of fix? I just can't imagine HTC and VZW pushed this out if problems like these are a common occurrence.

I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)

Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.

I was having many heat/lag issues as described above when I flashed the zip dirty or clean. I had to do a RUU with the MM update. Now it's super smooth. Still get lots of heat when the system is booting up for the first time/settling in. But after that, no issues.

how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?

baune7 said:
Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.
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Yea you will have to root. The thing is, Venom is literally a STOCK rooted M9 that has all bloat cut away and 1 small app for additional features (like changing status bar and power button for flashlight.). It is well worth it.
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how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?
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Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.

im_high_tech said:
Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.
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I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.

mcampos7 said:
I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.
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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness

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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness
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It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.

mcampos7 said:
It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.
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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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I'm also on the elemental kernel

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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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-450mA atm using xda app & hangouts
Now -60
-320

Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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I can barely get my phone to charge. I'm going back to L. If I nand back, do I need to flash 5.1 firmware or isn't hate covered in the nand?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.

4.3 Request
im_high_tech said:
I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)
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Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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Mmmm, but my original post was about the M9. Not the M8. They're similar, but the M8 has a superior processor. Imo it'd be amaz to have my custom (and unfortunately shattered) M8's processors and RAM in my M9. Fix all these issues. But, alas.....
baune7 said:
This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.
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In scale, that prolly equates to about 70% of my normal day, minus gaming. Right now I'm getting through about 30% of my day, minus gaming, before needing a charge. Even with QC, charging takes about 40% longer than it did on Lollipop.
Still neither factory reset nor rooting is an option, as I have nothing to back my stuff up on. No, the local library isn't kind enough to me for that lol.

Snoopy679 said:
Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?
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