Should I Keep It Or Sell It? - Sony Xperia ZL

I know this is probably crazy sounding to some but I just got my Xperia ZL c6506 in the mail yesterday but haven't unboxed it because I read several threads the day before about it having battery issues and not coming back on....At first I thought it was a small issue but apparently there are several of these phones that have had this issue. I would appreciate some feedback now before I open the box....

devo3d said:
I know this is probably crazy sounding to some but I just got my Xperia ZL c6506 in the mail yesterday but haven't unboxed it because I read several threads the day before about it having battery issues and not coming back on....At first I thought it was a small issue but apparently there are several of these phones that have had this issue. I would appreciate some feedback now before I open the box....
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Dude
No cell phone is free of problems ot doesnot mean we stop buying them n using them..go ahead open it up n.emerse in the world of xperia..not to worry
Its a masterpiece n u wont b dissappointed with it...gud luck
Sent from my C6502 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

unmaskedfalesh said:
Dude
No cell phone is free of problems ot doesnot mean we stop buying them n using them..go ahead open it up n.emerse in the world of xperia..not to worry
Its a masterpiece n u wont b dissappointed with it...gud luck
Sent from my C6502 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.

devo3d said:
LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
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Really, my review on 7 months usage. Battery good, for a 5 incher phone totally depends on your usage( working days i get 2 days) weekends i have to charge at least twice a day. some heating issues( which is found in most of the devices),
Some Official Issues
IR blaster Manual function doesnt really work ( I have this, officially they don even know whats the problem with it)
Constant Mic issues, and ear piece issue (during Call) (I have mic issue)
Screen flickering (Fixed in update) but not for all.
Camera Black Spots (Again not For All)
And Right now my phone is under repair for Mic and IR Issue.
These are only negatives, now decide yourselves

coolrevi said:
Really, my review on 7 months usage. Battery good, for a 5 incher phone totally depends on your usage( working days i get 2 days) weekends i have to charge at least twice a day. some heating issues( which is found in most of the devices),
Some Official Issues
IR blaster Manual function doesnt really work ( I have this, officially they don even know whats the problem with it)
Constant Mic issues, and ear piece issue (during Call) (I have mic issue)
Screen flickering (Fixed in update) but not for all.
Camera Black Spots (Again not For All)
And Right now my phone is under repair for Mic and IR Issue.
These are only negatives, now decide yourselves
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Thank you, your input is very helpful. I've read about those issues also. This phone seems to have more bugs than the original XZ.
I sure hate to get rid of it...its such a pretty phone and well engineered. All the bugs seem to be from manufacturing, that would be quality control on the companies I guess. Sony should have done better with this being the so called successor to the Z.

I want to sell mine and buy a Nexus 5, pretty good phone
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Well i can say my xperia ZL C6502 dont have any of does issues mentioned. no flickering, IR blaster work perfect, no black pixels on camera, great battery, mic, speaker and earpiece are working perfect. and not heating issues also. i just really love it.

I can confirm what the poster above me said. Back when I had stock rom installed, I could use IR blaster on different devices and even let it learn new commands, no single problem.
And the heating issue some are facing, it's due to the poor coded rom... If you install CM10.2 it takes your phone way longer to heat up.

maclancer said:
I want to sell mine and buy a Nexus 5, pretty good phone
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I guess we'll both have to wait in line....Google is sold out and Ebay's prices are through the roof. :silly:

danieldp1990 said:
Well i can say my xperia ZL C6502 dont have any of does issues mentioned. no flickering, IR blaster work perfect, no black pixels on camera, great battery, mic, speaker and earpiece are working perfect. and not heating issues also. i just really love it.
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I wonder what the differences are in the two models that have such a swing on problems? I got the 6506 for the LTE band....Straight Talk has LTE now and its Prepay...I used it on my ONE X+ and it was great.

einfachgaer said:
I can confirm what the poster above me said. Back when I had stock rom installed, I could use IR blaster on different devices and even let it learn new commands, no single problem.
And the heating issue some are facing, it's due to the poor coded rom... If you install CM10.2 it takes your phone way longer to heat up.
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I love the feel of the phone and the features are pretty cool too....Crap, I'm just having a hard time deciding....LOL

ZL C6503 here.
On .423 stock rom (rooted) everything worked fine, no flickering, no fc's and nice camera quality.
Battery drain wasn't that high neither.
A few days ago I updated to .67 stock rom (also rooted, no other mods installed), suddenly the battery drain was crazy high, even with stamina mode enabled.
I think the problem is not on hardware side, its the poor coded rom. Most problems are software related (at least for me). Some updates seem to behave more like downgrades... For now the most stable rom was .423.
If you don't mind unlocking your bootloader (make TA backup first!), PAC rom should be the best option. It's stable as rock, gives you Android 4.3 features and the battery seems to live longer than on any stock rom.
And for the heating issue: modern 4-core-1080p-devices always struggle with heat to some extent. Depends on screen brightness and the software and games you're running.
Overall the ZL is the best phone I've ever had. It's fast, it's 'small' and packs all the goodies you like

I like the 5 incher compact size of the Xperia ZL. i believe it is the smallest available today with the thin vessel it really looks very sleek. Well that's me, form and function, it completely covers both.

I bought a 6506 - primarily because it was available for a good price...
Performance seems pretty reasonable on a "quasi" stock rom... it does heat up for me when I'm charging it and doing something - like right now I'm making a backup... that seems to heat up pretty well.
Battery drain doesn't seem too bad...
LTE performance is pretty decent... download speeds aren't terribly high in my area (range from ~ 20mb/s to ~ 26mb/s... but uploads range from ~ 6mb/s to 14mb/s... that's a significant increase from what I was getting before.
I'm unsure if I'll keep this for very long or not... I've already created a TA backup... and I'm seriously considering testing cm10.2 or some other rom...

I've had my C6506 for over half a year now, it was in perfect condition out of the box and everything worked great. LTE was nice and fast depending on coverage.
Currently using Omni ROM 4.4, it's IMO the best ROM for the phone right now, the performance is absolutely great, it feels almost like a new phone again. Everything is snappy which was an issue I had with other 4.3 based roms, they just seemed to have little pockets of lag here and there that while they were easy to ignore at the time, once I switched to 4.4 it definitely became noticeably better.
Google implemented IR support so hopefully we'll see that put to use soon for AOSP roms.
Battery life has been pretty good, I'm able to average 10-16 hours during a regular work day depending on usage, if I'm at home using only the wifi I can easily get atleast 20 hours.
I've found the phone only heats up during a few scenarios: Charging the battery, browsing the web at max brightness for an extended period of time(30+ minutes), watching videos or playing a game, and even then, the phone never gets to unbearable heat.
I would highly recommend switching to Omni ROM 4.4, but whether or not the Sony exclusive stuff is worthwhile is up to you.
For me the Sony stuff isn't worthwhile because when I first got my phone backing up the TA partition wasn't widespread knowledge, so I'll never get the DRM locked stuff again.

TheTofu said:
I've had my C6506 for over half a year now, it was in perfect condition out of the box and everything worked great. LTE was nice and fast depending on coverage.
Currently using Omni ROM 4.4, it's IMO the best ROM for the phone right now, the performance is absolutely great, it feels almost like a new phone again. Everything is snappy which was an issue I had with other 4.3 based roms, they just seemed to have little pockets of lag here and there that while they were easy to ignore at the time, once I switched to 4.4 it definitely became noticeably better.
Google implemented IR support so hopefully we'll see that put to use soon for AOSP roms.
Battery life has been pretty good, I'm able to average 10-16 hours during a regular work day depending on usage, if I'm at home using only the wifi I can easily get atleast 20 hours.
I've found the phone only heats up during a few scenarios: Charging the battery, browsing the web at max brightness for an extended period of time(30+ minutes), watching videos or playing a game, and even then, the phone never gets to unbearable heat.
I would highly recommend switching to Omni ROM 4.4, but whether or not the Sony exclusive stuff is worthwhile is up to you.
For me the Sony stuff isn't worthwhile because when I first got my phone backing up the TA partition wasn't widespread knowledge, so I'll never get the DRM locked stuff again.
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After reading your comments I might have to give that a try...
Somehow I don't think today will be the day to try 4.4 on my phone...
Sent from my Xperia ZL using Tapatalk

I traded my galaxy S3 for the ZL. Loving it so far. Phone display is amazing and the design is sleek. Battery life is far better than S3 and I love the stock ROM very much. With S3 i've had so many lauchers and apps to make the phone look good. But with ZL I'm just using the stock ROM..everything just works the way i want..
I would definitely keep this phone..

devo3d said:
LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
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I bought a Nexus 5 and sold it 3 days later - it was smooth, and I mean pretty darn smooth in the OS, but the ZL beat it in too many ways.
Better Camera, better external speaker, IR Blaster...
I was really excited for the Nexus 5 but i liked my ZL more...and I can't even unlock the bootloader on my ZL.

scifan said:
After reading your comments I might have to give that a try...
Somehow I don't think today will be the day to try 4.4 on my phone...
Sent from my Xperia ZL using Tapatalk
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Only thing that concerns me is that I don't know if the AOSP camera app is as good as the stock camera app, it's still gonna take good photos but it's been a long time since I've had stock so I can't really compare. Could be just be me being paranoid lol.

TheTofu said:
Only thing that concerns me is that I don't know if the AOSP camera app is as good as the stock camera app, it's still gonna take good photos but it's been a long time since I've had stock so I can't really compare. Could be just be me being paranoid lol.
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No clue on that one...
I know they had some serious issues there for a while...

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Now weve had a play

Ok so now weve all had a decent play with our OX whats everyones thoughts?
Mod or Die
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
Are you considering a switch i lv put the ox back in the box an using my gs2 in hope a fix comes via OTA for all the little bugs
Mod or Die
Arthur Hucksake said:
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
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Arthur. You're boring.
If your device is that bad then send it back as it's clear you're having a lot more problems than everyone else.
no problems here in anyway battery life is fine handset running smooth and fastttttt....................superb device love mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After I found a way to move my Angry bird space progress without Titanium backup, I'm content using un-rooted one x for now.
I'd like to use Adblock for web browsing and Autostarts to stop some apps from running, but ICS RAM management seems to be working fine.
Battery life seems OK, got 3 hrs 40 mins with full screen brightness and 3G on 2nd full charge.
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Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
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I get fantastic battery life!
DaveDesire said:
Arthur. You're boring.
If your device is that bad then send it back as it's clear you're having a lot more problems than everyone else.
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I will send it back after the bank holiday IF I can get an RMA off Handtec.
I won't quit moaning about it, the OP asked for an opinion so I gave it. It's a big chunk of change to put down on a device to have something important let you down.
It's hard to appreciate a device when you can only get 3 hours screen time off a 3 hour charge.
It totally undoes all of the good work HTC have done with it. If you took the battery life of say an iPhone 4 and applied it here, it would be hands down the best piece of kit ever to come out. Literally.
I wouldn't use it as often at home because that is what the laptop and high end gaming PC is there for, so when out and about without access to a plug socket you want it to be at least reasonable. It seriously isn't.
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
Battery isn't great but its nothing different than other android phones.
ok so having had it since 7am this morning i must say its amazing, its buttery smooth, not had 1 bit of lag or stutter,
as it stands atm its currently on 9 hours 17 mins and the use i have been doing is
downloaded 7 apps,
installed gta3 from tegra zone which the download to play is 492mb over wifi,
took about 30 odd pics 2 videos 35 secs each
phone calls for about 45 mins total
set up dropbox,browsed ebay for 7 mins and brought 2 items,
ran 4x benchmarks
browesed market place for about 10 mins
sent and recieved around 40 texts,
played around on facebook,
as im a phone shop manager i treated myself for a comparison on it with
the razr
xperia s
s2
my nexus s
mainly cameras , benchmarks speed tests, really testing day .
1 major astonishment i found was
i managed to take come off lock screen boot camera-take a pic before the xperia s got into camera mode. winner,
but so far so good no issues from me and my sexy white x
cheers,
Arthur Hucksake said:
I will send it back after the bank holiday IF I can get an RMA off Handtec.
I won't quit moaning about it, the OP asked for an opinion so I gave it. It's a big chunk of change to put down on a device to have something important let you down.
It's hard to appreciate a device when you can only get 3 hours screen time off a 3 hour charge.
It totally undoes all of the good work HTC have done with it. If you took the battery life of say an iPhone 4 and applied it here, it would be hands down the best piece of kit ever to come out. Literally.
I wouldn't use it as often at home because that is what the laptop and high end gaming PC is there for, so when out and about without access to a plug socket you want it to be at least reasonable. It seriously isn't.
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
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Whats the problem,
At the moment, I'm getting a very similar screen on time to my SGS2 (3+hrs) & my HTC ONE X screen is much brighter then I ever had it on my SGS2.
Its also a known fact (due to reviewers) that 1.27, which we don't have yet, 'dramatically' improves battery life with 1.28 'rumoured' to extend it even further!
Arthur Hucksake said:
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
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I guess it is the chance we take on buying the device at launch, there always going to be problems both hardware and software we sometime so-called "bata tester" get stuck with.
You could just return it and wait for couple of months to see if HTC made any improvmements.
chrisjcks said:
Whats the problem,
At the moment, I'm getting a very similar screen on time to my SGS2 (3+hrs) & my HTC ONE X screen is much brighter then I ever had it on my SGS2.
Its also a known fact (due to reviewers) that 1.27, which we don't have yet, 'dramatically' improves battery life with 1.28 'rumoured' to extend it even further!
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That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
Arthur Hucksake said:
That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
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You clearly didn't get a DHD or sensation on launch, they had problems and I'm sure I can't remember your username popping up a million times
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Arthur Hucksake said:
That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
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Even without the update, your still getting a battery life very similar to Samsungs current flagship device (which has had a few software updates) - this is with a much brighter screen, a larger HD screen & a quad core processor when compared to the SGS2.
Are you just pissed you haven't got the 1.27 update (& don't know when you will...), or do you really think the battery is that bad?
I know 1.27 is gonna improve the battery, but even in its current state - when I compare it, it ain't that bad compared to the competition.
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Even without the update, your still getting a battery life very similar to Samsungs current flagship device (which has had a few software updates) - this is with a much brighter screen, a larger HD screen & a quad core processor when compared to the SGS2.
Are you just pissed you haven't got the 1.27 update (& don't know when you will...), or do you really think the battery is that bad?
I know 1.27 is gonna improve the battery, but even in its current state - when I compare it, it ain't that bad compared to the competition.
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I had the SGS2 and the battery life is better than what we got here, seriously.
And I did have a Sensation around launch , it was glitchy but again the battery life was not this poor.
But it could also be a case of not noticing it as much because I could carry a spare battery if need be, but never felt the need to use it.
Today our car broke down on the motorway and after calling the RAC then having to get a tow, the battery was nearly depleted and I had the worry of whether it would last long enough to take the call from when they arrived.
Then having to send a few texts to let people know we wouldn't be getting there, just how on earth are you meant to appreciate the greatness of this phone with the constant battery worries?
Random point, but do this.
Go into the Play store, scroll down the free apps for a short while, then check your battery status. 3 or 4% down having done practically nothing.
Such are the risks of getting a v1.0 anything I'm afraid, it will almost always not be as good as v1.1+. You take the chance of having initial issues vs. having the latest greatest device first. This has always been the way, some of the early release iPhones have had terrible problems until receiving patches.
At the moment I'm loving the phone, I don't think the battery is all that bad so far, but looking forward to the updates making it better, I'm certainly happy with the choice I made, no question.
SartoriXX said:
Such are the risks of getting a v1.0 anything I'm afraid, it will almost always not be as good as v1.1+. You take the chance of having initial issues vs. having the latest greatest device first. This has always been the way, some of the early release iPhones have had terrible problems until receiving patches.
At the moment I'm loving the phone, I don't think the battery is all that bad so far, but looking forward to the updates making it better, I'm certainly happy with the choice I made, no question.
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Think I will try a swap out for another, see how that fares. If it is exactly the same then atleast I know i've given it a fair roll of the dice.
It's like I am really hoping there is something wrong with mine, and the battery isn't how it's meant to be but the pattern is common on here and usage stats are all pretty much the same.
I wouldn't say its right to compare it to the iPhone neither. HTC have had plenty of time to get this right. I've had the Hero> Desire > Sensation and now this. Each time I keep expecting them to "get it right" and they never quite make it.
The craziest thing is, the Hero is still my pick of the bunch judging by how I felt at the time and the fact I added a hench battery and made it even better.
i think alot of users were expecting too much from the phone massive hype led to a kick in the nuts for some .. ????take the phone as it is, if battery is going to make or break your decision then a machine like this maybe isnt for you.
end of the day it is android 4 with sense 4 big screen quad core - expect battery to be poor until you have a few cycles and updates are sent out, dhd was worse i had 2 off them....
cheers
Im getting my HTC One X on Tuesday next week from phones4u hopefully, cant wait!. But ive read such a difference in people experiences with the battery life of this phone that im not sure what to make of it! lol, ill just have to wait and see I guess and report back how i find it, it promising to see that the majority, correct me if im wrong, of UK users seem to be reporting good battery life though!

Going back to my iPhone 4s

To begin, I want to say that I am not an Apple Fanboy or a mindless lemming for anything with an Apple logo. I've had many droid phones in the past. I just wanted to give my personal opinion between both phones and explain my personal reasons for dropping my GN and going back to my iPhone 4s.
I know that some people don't use the camera on their phone, but I have a 6 year old daughter. I use my camera quite a bit so it's important too me. I am not hung up on specs so the 5 mp camera didn't scare me. In the end it's all about what the pics look like. In perfect lighting situations the camera is pretty good. But we all know that most pictures aren't shot in perfect lighting conditions. For one week every time I took a pic with my GN I also shot one with my iPhone. Overall the iPhone pics were better. They were sharper, colors were more accurate and overall looked closer to what I was shooting. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the GN is as horrible as most posts say, I'm just saying for my personal use it's quite a bit below the iPhone's camera for the situations I am in and use my camera for. Don't tell me that it's just a camera phone and I shouldn't be that picky. You can't deny that they skimped on the camera. It's not nearly as good as most current phones. I would have been happy with the same camera from the Galaxy SII, but it's not even that good.
Battery use is another reason. I realize that it's a bigger screen, faster processor etc. so it's not going to be in the same ballpark as my iPhone. However I had 4g turned off and brightness turned down to 40% and it was still horrendous. Now before you jump on my, i did root my phone and had a rom/kernel installed. No difference! I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time. I was averaging 1.5 hours of on-screen time before my battery died. This is something I monitored very closely.
Also, for full disclosure, my iPhone is jailbroken so I have several widgets that refresh every 15 minutes going and the on-screen time is well over 10 hours!
The screen is nice, and while it's probably the best of the droid phones, it's not better than the iPhone's. Now you can say that it's personal preference so here's what I did. I took a pic with my iPhone and sent it to my GN. I opened the pic on both phones and set them side by side. The iPhone was sharper and more realistic in each case. I also took a pic with my GN and then sent it to my iPhone for a comparison. Same result.
I really wish that those factors weren't a dealbreaker for me because otherwise it is an awesome phone! The speaker was loud, signal was strong, didn't have any rebooting issues - all of which are being reported all over the forums. It's easily the best droid phone but just not on the same level as my iPhone. Like I said my iPhone is jailbroken so I'm able to pretty much do anything that you can with the GN!
And don't tell me that the iPhone sucks and needs to be jailbroken because the same argument can be made for the GN. The reason people root and install custom rom's/kernels is because they want a different experience/performance that what they get out of the box.
Again, this post was to give an honest user experience of why I am going back to my iPhone based on how I use my phone.
Camera quality improved quite a bit in 4.0.4. Did you use this update?
Oh noooo please dont go please dont leave us!!!
I have not updated to 4.0.4. I checked and wasn't able to update to it. The rom I was using was 4.0.4 based.
Can I update somehow even if I haven't gotten the message yet?
These threads should be auto-deleted.
That's odd I have galaxy nexus lte with the 2100 battery and honestly I have no complaints about battery life I use my GPS twice a day for about an hour and half both ways and many emails and phone calls also including all the junk I look up on the internet and I still go to bed with atleast 20 percent left... all stock. The camera I can agree on wtf were they thinking. To hell with shutter speed I want quality not quantity
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If you are on a custom ROM, you probably won't get the message and even if you do, you wouldn't be able to update OTA unless you reverted to stock.
mpetruzz said:
Can I update somehow even if I haven't gotten the message yet?
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Leads me to believe your issues are caused by user error.
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mpetruzz said:
I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time.
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Without starting a pointless flame war, this is not typical of general nexus users. You have something draining your battery. Honestly, don't let this put you off. Do some digging and see what is killing your battery and then decide. Something is amiss.
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I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
wtm1417 - congrats! I knew I'd get some a$$holes after posting this and you sir were the first!!
mpetruzz said:
I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time. I was averaging 1.5 hours of on-screen time before my battery died. This is something I monitored very closely.
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While I concur that the camera is not as good as the iPhone’s—Google and Samsung failed here—I don’t know how you did this. With stock 4.0.4 I get 3.5-4 hours of screen time consistently and plenty of battery to spare, and I don’t do anything special to get it. That said, you’d have to pay me, and pay me well, to force me to use an iPhone daily.
Wtf did I just read.. retina is better than super amoled HD ? So you're telling me you can see the 20 pixels ? The experience on the nexus is much better.. iPhone is for dumb people, no offense, not to say that iPhone looks way too familiar now, and its build quality is ****, the nexus is better in everything except camera where the iPhone slightly edges the nexus
You should get an award for being the blindest person alive
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I would agree with you on the camera bit. The camera on my old iPhone 4 was far superior than my Galaxy Nexus. With the GN you really need a steady hand to get a proper shot. I haven't got the 404 update yet so I'm hoping that this will be fixed.
Well sounds like you don't have enough time to tailor Android to your liking, ****ty deal. IPhone will be perfect for you then.
Back to flash, emulators, and 3d maps for the rest of us
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mpetruzz said:
I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
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I manage to get 3 hours at least on a normal day, even with wifi only half of that. Get betterbatterystats from here on xda and see what (if anything) is keeping your phone awake. Seriously, something is not right. Maybe something as simple as a ROM/Kernel combo. Try a few different ones and see how you fare.
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So you are going back to a camera ?
Please make a better argument... I can't even take you seriously.
mpetruzz said:
I've had many droid phones in the past.
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All respect is lost.
Would you mind posting up a couple of the shots to see the comparison between the 2 phones??
Any rom/kernel suggestions? I'm open to trying something that might help me.
BTW, for all the people calling me dumb, stupid and saying I need to go to an iPhone, you're just proving your fanboys! Instead of helping me or offering suggestions it's easier just to criticize.
Thank you to the posts from members who are actually trying to help!
mpetruzz said:
I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
wtm1417 - congrats! I knew I'd get some a$$holes after posting this and you sir were the first!!
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So you post an asshole comment right back, a lot of times people see problems because of user error.
Go back to your Apple world, enjoy the limitations and enjoy not being able to customize to it's full extent. You can say that you can do anything with your iPhone4S but at the end of the day that is just not true. Jailbroken or not.
Again, go, have fun, no skin off any of our backs and now we have one less hostile person to worry about.

[Q] Is it recommendable to buy a HOX now?

I'm worried about the issues plaguing the device, have the updates and latest software fixed some of the issues? Overheating, screen ripples, draining battery etc?
those production issues have been fixed more than a month ago, if u like the phone, jump on without aby fears, ull love it here
overheating is within acceptable range eith custom kernels, and future releases by nvidia and htc are bound to solve this issue further
battery life has been quite good too, but this is suvjective and depends on ur usage
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KLUVJ said:
those production issues have been fixed more than a month ago, if u like the phone, jump on without aby fears, ull love it here
overheating is within acceptable range eith custom kernels, and future releases by nvidia and htc are bound to solve this issue further
battery life has been quite good too, but this is suvjective and depends on ur usage
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful What about lag and the multi tasking issue? Did HTC fix that or are they still forcing us to accept reloading pages as a new standard for conserving ram and battery?
I haven't used an HTC phone for quite some time now and although Samsung has been really really nice, it's not as satisfying as owning an HTC
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful What about lag and the multi tasking issue? Did HTC fix that or are they still forcing us to accept reloading pages as a new standard for conserving ram and battery?
I haven't used an HTC phone for quite some time now and although Samsung has been really really nice, it's not as satisfying as owning an HTC
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that is a sense issue. currently, all non sense roms dont hace that issue.hopefully, htc will push the new release out with a multitask fix, as they already fixed the live wallpaper issue.
lag is nonexistant on roms, really, blazing fast, i have never seen sense this fast, all due to the viper rom and the faux experimental oc kernel.
all problems are pretty much fixed in roms, and hopefully, htc will step up their game asap and release their 404 update. its been confirmed to drop in the following 2 weeks
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that is a sense issue. currently, all non sense roms dont hace that issue.hopefully, htc will push the new release out with a multitask fix, as they already fixed the live wallpaper issue.
lag is nonexistant on roms, really, blazing fast, i have never seen sense this fast, all due to the viper rom and the faux experimental oc kernel.
all problems are pretty much fixed in roms, and hopefully, htc will step up their game asap and release their 404 update. its been confirmed to drop in the following 2 weeks
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Thank you. One last thing, is the wifi problem related to hardware or just software? I'm referring to the one wherein you press the upper right hand corner of the screen and the wifi signal gets stronger.
You mentioned all problems being fixed on custom roms, what about stock roms?
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Thank you. One last thing, is the wifi problem related to hardware or just software? I'm referring to the one wherein you press the upper right hand corner of the screen and the wifi signal gets stronger.
You mentioned all problems being fixed on custom roms, what about stock roms?
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hardware. and its not really a bad thing too, cant understand why people stress over it. stock currently has pretty good battery life, its just the three dot menu that needs a fix.the very soon to be released 404 update will resolve all that and bring a lot more enhancements to the table.
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hardware. and its not really a bad thing too, cant understand why people stress over it. stock currently has pretty good battery life, its just the three dot menu that needs a fix.the very soon to be released 404 update will resolve all that and bring a lot more enhancements to the table.
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I agree with KLUVJ that this phone is really good except of that one issue i have with push email on the sense email client. However if you do use the gmail app or any other 3rd party app like maildroid, i think you are fine.
I find that the phone overheat a little more than the iphone but within acceptable range. Tried viper rom yesterday and i was amazed! the amount of settings you could do to tweak the phone is just unbelievable.
Hope you can join the group here!
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I agree with KLUVJ that this phone is really good except of that one issue i have with push email on the sense email client. However if you do use the gmail app or any other 3rd party app like maildroid, i think you are fine.
I find that the phone overheat a little more than the iphone but within acceptable range. Tried viper rom yesterday and i was amazed! the amount of settings you could do to tweak the phone is just unbelievable.
Hope you can join the group here!
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Regarding the wifi issue, are there phones with no problems? I've been reading up and it seems that HTC is accepting units for repair if you do have this issue, correct?
Lastly, what's the real deal with the battery life? I've read through a gazillion posts with some claiming it sucks and is below the gs3, others are praising it and saying it can beat the iphone 4 and 4s which I say is almost impossible for android. GSMarena rates the battery life of the hox 6 hrs below the GS3 with video playback at a paltry 6hrs only
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful
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I got mine the same way, and it's fine.
It had the wifi "grip of life" issue and a duff speaker, but I got it repaired by HTC and all is well now.
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Regarding the wifi issue, are there phones with no problems? I've been reading up and it seems that HTC is accepting units for repair if you do have this issue, correct?
Lastly, what's the real deal with the battery life? I've read through a gazillion posts with some claiming it sucks and is below the gs3, others are praising it and saying it can beat the iphone 4 and 4s which I say is almost impossible for android. GSMarena rates the battery life of the hox 6 hrs below the GS3 with video playback at a paltry 6hrs only
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There are phones with no problems. But excessive checking for the problem i.e pushing the part between volume and cam with force again and again can actually create the problem. Yes htc is accepting units for repair.
Battery life opinion will be as different as genetic code lol. Here's mine.
Some custom roms give even better battery life than others. My phone lasts a day on full charge with me having made about 30 minutes of calls, lots of whatsapp messages, web-browsing, tweeting, etc.
I get an average of 2 hours 50 minutes of screen on time.
Say you don't touch the phone for 7-8 hours maybe your sleeping or whatever, the battery would have drained only about 2-3%. That's with data/wifi and cell reception on. Incredible Standby Time.
When you do use the phone the battery flies away like crazy . I have to fully charge my phone once a day.
what about the latest batches HT26 and SH27. what is the probability of those models to be defective (hardware issue).
Honestly, if you think we are having issues, you best check out the SGS3 forums lol.
Dude i got my HOX the day it became available in my country, i was well aware of the potential issues and luckily i got a defect free unit.
I used it as a stock device for about 2 weeks and was very impressed with battery life and overall smoothness, honestly you dont need to root a HOX to get the best out of the device, it holds its own pretty well.
I rooted because I am used to the luxury of Titanium Backup, Super User apps that I have purchased and because i dont like to wait for OS updates lol.
Why wait on a carrirer when i know how to do it myself and what Team PkmN was doing with charmeleon ROM was waaaay to tempting to just sit and watch from the side lines and miss out on the action lol, truth be told that ROM was the main reason i took the plunge.
I consider myself a power user and would recommend ViperX and Faux 005 beta 1 kernel, that is if your going to root.
Thank you for the input everyone I appreciate it. I do hope I get one without issues

So, who's satisfied overall?

I personally am a little let down with my S3. It may be fast but has some minor issues.. My power button gets stuck if I press it at the wrong angle in the lower area and the power button squeaks sometimes. Then some keyboard lag randomly isn't the best. The quadrant scores vary from time to time. But it does work well besides that and I feel is one of the best phones out there. Anyone having some similar issues? and What do you guys think about the s3?
And I'm sorry if there is a post for this already. I'm using the xda app and the search doesn't work well.
You may want to have sprint check out your phone and either fix it for you or replace. I've had zero issues with the power button. As nice as the phone is, you shouldn't have to deal with the button squeaking or sticking.
My home button has been solid since I got it. Has a nice click to it. As for keyboard lag and varying quadrant scores, those may be attributed to the same problem. When I was running stock I'd get the same problems too. Once I rooted and installed NoFrillsCPU Control I enabled "prevent changes from other apps" and haven't had any lag since. I think it still clocks down the CPU when it runs too hot though.
Wouldnt i be charged? and its my power button. not home.
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Wouldnt i be charged? and its my power button. not home.
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You shouldn't be if you have TEP. But if anything it should be covered under the manufacturers warranty, as long as they can replicate it.
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I'm dissatisfied in the same way that I'm dissatisfied that my car doesn't get 200 mpg and fly.
In other words, it's an awesome phone, best I've ever had, but I still want the next great innovation. ......
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I'm dissatisfied in the same way that I'm dissatisfied that my car doesn't get 200 mpg and fly.
In other words, it's an awesome phone, best I've ever had, but I still want the next great innovation. ......
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Agreed. This is the first phone I haven't felt compelled to root. It's been great right out of the box.
By far, the best phone I've ever had. I've had it for over a month now and I still have trouble putting it down.
i have 2..my 1st(white1) works very well...my 2nd works very well however it has a power button issue..it is almost flush to the phone..it works and is responsive but sometimes i have to hit it twice and pull it back out..(the 2nd is blue)
I haven't been able to get the greatest battery life out of it. Seems to drain a few percent while idle. On my EVO LTE that things battery life was ridiculous good! I see some reloading too if I am in an app and then back out; more like a quick flash like a quarter of a second where everything disappears then reappears real fast. LI13 stock rooted is my best battery life so far - 58% right now 14 hrs - 1hr16min screen on. I get some 3G reload too at times where it'll say preparing network while loading a webpage or app etc. Looking forward to LTE cause 3G is pathetic and Jellybean, and Myn's Warm Rom!
Best phone I ever had. Solid and fast. I only miss my slide out keyboard from my Epic.
My best phone ever. No hardware issues at all, great battery life, good response, design, etc. Now just hoping we get JB in timely fashion and should make the device even better.
Personally, can't stand touchwiz, but love Samsung hardware and how much easier it is to root and put stock on. Unlike HTC, Sammy actually releases source. Haven't had any issues with this device, I do like it. I gotta say though, I did like new sense on the evo 4g LTE, but sold the phone due to such horrible multitasking and development being a step behind.
I would end up selling this one if cm10 wasn't out though. Just wouldn't be able to use touchwiz lol. Not to say that touchwiz sucks, I just do not like it, personal preference.
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I've been thinking hard and long about this the past could of weeks since the Note 2 rumors/announcement. I believe I'll be getting the S3 as I don't need a screen as large as the Note 2 will have and from my comparisons of the original Note vs the S3, I feel that the S3 feels better in the hand. Well, that and I have my Nexus 7 with me everywhere.
I am really enjoying my phone. Best one yet on android. It was funny comparing my s3 to iPhone 5. Oh they try so hard yet cant come close to our coolness. Its like that one cousin or distant family member thats always showing off Lol. Only issue i found when upgrading to latest sprint built, my battery doesn't hold as much. Anyone else have an issue?
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I personally am a little let down with my S3. It may be fast but has some minor issues.. My power button gets stuck if I press it at the wrong angle in the lower area and the power button squeaks sometimes. Then some keyboard lag randomly isn't the best. The quadrant scores vary from time to time. But it does work well besides that and I feel is one of the best phones out there. Anyone having some similar issues? and What do you guys think about the s3?
And I'm sorry if there is a post for this already. I'm using the xda app and the search doesn't work well.
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Yeah i can say im very satisfied overall, other then 1 minor issue which i can live with by rooting is that u cant transfer any of ure files to ext sd because of that darn ics sammy crap they pulled. Button works great no problems there with getting stuck or any squeaks. as ufor ure quadrant scores, scores arent always accurate plus score level doesnt mean a thing at all nor should it matter, it doesnt tell u anything nor its gonna prove anything....now why do u get random socres, its because ure GS3 is throttling back and forth. why is it doing that, all GS3 phones do that even the GS2 phone did that as well, is something that sammy did in order to prevent the phone from overheating because of the extra power its packing and to give u a better battery life without loosing much of the speed its giving u. now there are ways u can stop the throttling and have full power but i havent found it yet. the lag even if the phone where to throttle u should experience any lag, i havent atleast so yeah u might wanna take it in for inspection. i rooted only because of increase battery life and ofcourse to make my 64 gb ultra mobile class 10 microsd into an internal memory for my phone it worked like a charm. i believe the galaxy S3 is the best thing ever happen since the galaxy S came out.
TAKE THAT APPLE URE PHONE SUCKS. LOL
I am completely satisfied with the Gs3 and have had no problems after rooting it. Had a few minor complaints with the stock ROM but the phone itself was awesome.
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I'm VERY satisfied with my phone. I love it like the first day I layed eyes on it lol I still can't put it down :thumbup:
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I'm VERY satisfied with my phone. I love it like the first day I layed eyes on it lol I still can't put it down :thumbup:
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agreed, i cant either, if i could marry it i would, i love this phone. make sweet sweet love to it...lolz:laugh:
jellybean with lte perfect. camera in low light isn't the greatest but I'm not complaining daylight pictures more than make up for this minor imperfection Samsung finally nailed it. quad core would have been good but after seeing the comparisons between the international version and ours i think we came out on top a s4 chip faster then tegra3, 2 gigs of ram + Lte. If there's any lag custom roms solve everything.
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WOW

Good evening all i purchased my new lg g4 today in tan and its better than expected,im just wondering what you all think of it if anybody has 1 and was it as expected thanks for readig
I think almost every member on G4 has it. It's great that you're satisfied with your purchase but there is no need to create an extra topic just for this.
Nah its a good topic. This particular's phone community is really bad tho. I have never seen a community bashing others in every single topic. You guys cant wait for root and constantly are putting down new members.
Really...? If you dont like his post, simply ignore it and move the **** on. Back on topic: I really love the G4. It has a great camera, very fast and responsive (had a few touch issues but it was fixed with a software update) great battery life when you disable gps/data when theyre not needed.
Only downside is the design which doesnt look as good after awhile next to the iPhone and Samsung's premium look but you get leather back for that!
I have had it for almost 3 months and Im still not sure about it. Sometimes I really hate it sometimes I just like it. Lollipop is the thing that makes me wants to destroy it the most.
@kidpaddle45
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I just came from a galaxy S6 in all its sapphire goodness. The G4 to me is stunningly beautiful. I was holding it next to my wife's platinum gold S6 and ooh that screen ratio is beautiful. Sure it's not the brightest kid on the block, but who needs to squint to show that off? With accessibility>vision>Screen color adjustment. I can match the colors of sexy amoled just fine. Yes, this is mine and only mine until the Spring flagships are released.
Off topic, the Xperia Z2 Tablet sub is a joke with Real condescending folks.
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Nah its a good topic. This particular's phone community is really bad tho. I have never seen a community bashing others in every single topic. You guys cant wait for root and constantly are putting down new members.
Really...? If you dont like his post, simply ignore it and move the **** on.
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Sadly this is the norm for these forums. So many people are skilled at faulting someone's post and talking to them like they're in kindergarten. My favorite is "USE SEARCH FIRST! ! THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED! ! " As if no one and their grandma has ever heard of Google or has any idea that the forum search tool often sucks.
Right now I really like the phone but it has so much less support than my G3 on these forums plus so many people having strange issues like random boot loops of death on totally unmodified phones. On top of this my variant has no official KDZ/TOT file released
I've had my G4 for about two weeks, and overall I'm happy with it. Battery life could be better, but I think part of it is something strange going on with my phone causing fairly rapid drain every now and then. May try doing a factory reset to see if that helps
It's sort of a love/hate relationship with my G4. While I love the camera and form factor of the phone, I hate the battery life, overheating, and severe lack of development. I'm really hoping Marshmallow will fix some of the issues.
If they could improve the battery life, heating issues, and random performance lag, this would be damn near a perfect phone, even un-rooted. I had the G3 and HATED it. I like the G4 significantly better. I'm curious to see what they do with the G5 next year.
Mine overheats a bit, and I'm not even playing games.
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Mine doesn't. I mean, when I play it does a bit, but it's expected.
I'm about to root my phone (I always do that, this is the first phone that I have for more than 2 weeks unrooted!!), but I do like it a lot (mainly camera).
It's really nice one (came from Galaxy S4).
What bothers me now:
1) When I use ProShot, it's draining the battery a LOT, as well as overheating (I'll check it with the DEV)
2) I do like using Google Now. However, with G4, it keeps activating GPS a LOT, more than usual!! Then, Android System shows as biggest battery drainer.
Overall, very happy.
Cheers.
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I think almost every member on G4 has it. It's great that you're satisfied with your purchase but there is no need to create an extra topic just for this.
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It's the 'General' section so it's OK to post things like that here, I guess.
But to be honest... The title of this thread could have been more professional
I came from a Nexus 5, which I dropped unfortunately... So I was kind of forced to buy the G4 a few weeks ago.
I'm quite satisfied with the whole package. The community support could be better (Maybe I'm spoiled by my 2 years Nexus experience?!)
But I think we have one of the best phones on the market and the community is growing!
Wow. That's what I said too when I took it out of the box.
issues that irk me at the moment
-battery life is horrid even with mods
-heats up a bit and like someone stated above thats not ven when youre playing games.(also flashed heat mod)
-on screen buttons which is my biggest peeve, i dont understand why people love them and they are the norm, they take up screen real estate. i constantly accidently hit them all the time when im doing things in apps. its just my personal experience but in general a clusterFuk for me.
other than that I love everything else.
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-battery life is horrid even with mods
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How much sot/screen time do you get ?
Are you on data ? on wifi ? mix
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Mine overheats a bit, and I'm not even playing games.
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Does a reboot improve anything ?
There is no overheating, if it overheats then the device will shut down. SOP on Android.
You have some processes that generating heat. if you're shooting 4k this will happen.
If screen brightness is on max and you're doing something intensive it will happen.
@One Twelve I wouldn't count using Tapatalk as intensive task. Screen brightness level is usually around 40-70%.
The workaround that I use is using power saving mode but the display is dimmer. It is far from ideal, but this way, I can easily last the day without having my battery being drained by the the two cortex A57.
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I have it for a week now, love it ofc. No problems so far. Hope I won't get any in the future too.
I believe battery life depends on what phone u came from. It's will be seem as good battery if u came from s4 but bad if u come from note 4/5.
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I have had it for almost 3 months and Im still not sure about it. Sometimes I really hate it sometimes I just like it. Lollipop is the thing that makes me wants to destroy it the most.
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Kinda the same here. Love the hardware, not a fan of the software. CM12 is coming along very well, though, and as soon as Bluetooth is fixed (so I can use my Moto 360), I'll be moving to that as my daily driver. From limited use, it seems very stable!
One major issue I ran into recently was constant power cycling. Even after 3 factory resets, it would power cycle non-stop. I ended up having to get it replaced.
Strangely enough, my friend's G4 started doing the same thing on the exact same day as mine. Both Verizon variants.
I dont get alot of the comments here. I have great battery life especially on standby. Software wise g4 has less bloatware than samsung and i accredidate that to the good performance and lag free experience when the processor is one gen behind current flagships. The form factor in the hand is good too curved back and back buttons are great and took me no time to get used to coming from samsung. If i have a gripe it could be the touchscreen responsiveness butits nowhere near as bad as some people make out.

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