Going back to my iPhone 4s - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

To begin, I want to say that I am not an Apple Fanboy or a mindless lemming for anything with an Apple logo. I've had many droid phones in the past. I just wanted to give my personal opinion between both phones and explain my personal reasons for dropping my GN and going back to my iPhone 4s.
I know that some people don't use the camera on their phone, but I have a 6 year old daughter. I use my camera quite a bit so it's important too me. I am not hung up on specs so the 5 mp camera didn't scare me. In the end it's all about what the pics look like. In perfect lighting situations the camera is pretty good. But we all know that most pictures aren't shot in perfect lighting conditions. For one week every time I took a pic with my GN I also shot one with my iPhone. Overall the iPhone pics were better. They were sharper, colors were more accurate and overall looked closer to what I was shooting. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the GN is as horrible as most posts say, I'm just saying for my personal use it's quite a bit below the iPhone's camera for the situations I am in and use my camera for. Don't tell me that it's just a camera phone and I shouldn't be that picky. You can't deny that they skimped on the camera. It's not nearly as good as most current phones. I would have been happy with the same camera from the Galaxy SII, but it's not even that good.
Battery use is another reason. I realize that it's a bigger screen, faster processor etc. so it's not going to be in the same ballpark as my iPhone. However I had 4g turned off and brightness turned down to 40% and it was still horrendous. Now before you jump on my, i did root my phone and had a rom/kernel installed. No difference! I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time. I was averaging 1.5 hours of on-screen time before my battery died. This is something I monitored very closely.
Also, for full disclosure, my iPhone is jailbroken so I have several widgets that refresh every 15 minutes going and the on-screen time is well over 10 hours!
The screen is nice, and while it's probably the best of the droid phones, it's not better than the iPhone's. Now you can say that it's personal preference so here's what I did. I took a pic with my iPhone and sent it to my GN. I opened the pic on both phones and set them side by side. The iPhone was sharper and more realistic in each case. I also took a pic with my GN and then sent it to my iPhone for a comparison. Same result.
I really wish that those factors weren't a dealbreaker for me because otherwise it is an awesome phone! The speaker was loud, signal was strong, didn't have any rebooting issues - all of which are being reported all over the forums. It's easily the best droid phone but just not on the same level as my iPhone. Like I said my iPhone is jailbroken so I'm able to pretty much do anything that you can with the GN!
And don't tell me that the iPhone sucks and needs to be jailbroken because the same argument can be made for the GN. The reason people root and install custom rom's/kernels is because they want a different experience/performance that what they get out of the box.
Again, this post was to give an honest user experience of why I am going back to my iPhone based on how I use my phone.

Camera quality improved quite a bit in 4.0.4. Did you use this update?

Oh noooo please dont go please dont leave us!!!

I have not updated to 4.0.4. I checked and wasn't able to update to it. The rom I was using was 4.0.4 based.
Can I update somehow even if I haven't gotten the message yet?

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That's odd I have galaxy nexus lte with the 2100 battery and honestly I have no complaints about battery life I use my GPS twice a day for about an hour and half both ways and many emails and phone calls also including all the junk I look up on the internet and I still go to bed with atleast 20 percent left... all stock. The camera I can agree on wtf were they thinking. To hell with shutter speed I want quality not quantity
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If you are on a custom ROM, you probably won't get the message and even if you do, you wouldn't be able to update OTA unless you reverted to stock.

mpetruzz said:
Can I update somehow even if I haven't gotten the message yet?
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Leads me to believe your issues are caused by user error.
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mpetruzz said:
I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time.
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Without starting a pointless flame war, this is not typical of general nexus users. You have something draining your battery. Honestly, don't let this put you off. Do some digging and see what is killing your battery and then decide. Something is amiss.
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I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
wtm1417 - congrats! I knew I'd get some a$$holes after posting this and you sir were the first!!

mpetruzz said:
I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time. I was averaging 1.5 hours of on-screen time before my battery died. This is something I monitored very closely.
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While I concur that the camera is not as good as the iPhone’s—Google and Samsung failed here—I don’t know how you did this. With stock 4.0.4 I get 3.5-4 hours of screen time consistently and plenty of battery to spare, and I don’t do anything special to get it. That said, you’d have to pay me, and pay me well, to force me to use an iPhone daily.

Wtf did I just read.. retina is better than super amoled HD ? So you're telling me you can see the 20 pixels ? The experience on the nexus is much better.. iPhone is for dumb people, no offense, not to say that iPhone looks way too familiar now, and its build quality is ****, the nexus is better in everything except camera where the iPhone slightly edges the nexus
You should get an award for being the blindest person alive
Sent from my Samsung GNexus <3

I would agree with you on the camera bit. The camera on my old iPhone 4 was far superior than my Galaxy Nexus. With the GN you really need a steady hand to get a proper shot. I haven't got the 404 update yet so I'm hoping that this will be fixed.

Well sounds like you don't have enough time to tailor Android to your liking, ****ty deal. IPhone will be perfect for you then.
Back to flash, emulators, and 3d maps for the rest of us
Sent from my francoPhone

mpetruzz said:
I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
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I manage to get 3 hours at least on a normal day, even with wifi only half of that. Get betterbatterystats from here on xda and see what (if anything) is keeping your phone awake. Seriously, something is not right. Maybe something as simple as a ROM/Kernel combo. Try a few different ones and see how you fare.
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So you are going back to a camera ?
Please make a better argument... I can't even take you seriously.

mpetruzz said:
I've had many droid phones in the past.
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All respect is lost.

Would you mind posting up a couple of the shots to see the comparison between the 2 phones??

Any rom/kernel suggestions? I'm open to trying something that might help me.
BTW, for all the people calling me dumb, stupid and saying I need to go to an iPhone, you're just proving your fanboys! Instead of helping me or offering suggestions it's easier just to criticize.
Thank you to the posts from members who are actually trying to help!

mpetruzz said:
I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
wtm1417 - congrats! I knew I'd get some a$$holes after posting this and you sir were the first!!
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So you post an asshole comment right back, a lot of times people see problems because of user error.
Go back to your Apple world, enjoy the limitations and enjoy not being able to customize to it's full extent. You can say that you can do anything with your iPhone4S but at the end of the day that is just not true. Jailbroken or not.
Again, go, have fun, no skin off any of our backs and now we have one less hostile person to worry about.

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ThunderBolt--->Galaxy Nexus Multiple Issues

Greetings,
I recently upgraded to the Galaxy Nexus from my modded thundebolt running Cyanogen, both on Verizon.
This phone despite rave reviews has been a huge disappointment to me.
Battery Life This is an issue highlighted on this forum and all over the web. This phone's battery life is significantly worse than the Thunderbolt was out of the box. The latter was solved with a root and cyanogen install. I certainly hope the same can be said of the Nexus. As a medical professional, this device is simply unusable. I am currently getting less than 4 hours. The device is always running hot, as if some program is chewing through the battery, but a fix is elusive at this point. I have tried two nexus phones at this point.
Speed Another big disappointment. I have once again tried two devices, both with the quick OTA update. The device is extremely sluggish in virtually every regard. Opening programs, sliding through menus. I have actually tested my thunderbolt against the nexus on opening and running many different programs, from games, some of which are unplayable on the Nexus (may be an ICS issue) to opening simple email like gmail. The Thunderbolt is significantly faster and smoother. I admit I am a bit mistified by this one, hearing so many with rave reviews of the speed. I am not sure if this is because others are coming from much older devices or if there really is a speed issue. The Thunderbolt was clearly much faster in every regard. Again two separate
Vibrate This is a major issue for me, being in the medical profession. The device doubles as my pager, and missing pages can obviously be dangerous to my patients. I have again tested and confirmed this on two separate Nexus devices.
Voice to Text The google engine that transcribes on the fly only works with the android keyboard. Further, I have found it to be much less accurate than my thunderbolt using flex t9. I even tried the latter on the nexus, reproducing many of these problems. Not sure if this is a microphone issue on the nexus.
Games Some are simply unplayable. This may be a native problem to ICS, but my favorite game, frozen bubble plus is no longer a viable time waster.
Camera The concerns about this are well justified. It does fine in sunlight, but anything with a flash is absolutely horrid and unusable. For those who enjoy sharing a quick photo via facebook, texting, whatsapp, picasa etc, you are seriously going to be disappointed. The focus is inconsistent, and the flash over saturates the pictures. Major step behind the Thunderbolt.
There are other annoyances. Long pressing a text box allows you to change input method.
I haven't figured out if you can assign an on screen "hardware" button to a task by long pressing like you can on the thunderbolt. I have the find key on my thunderbolt assigned to the voice command. So I can long press on it and text, email, search directions etc with one simple long press. I don't see an easy way to do this on the Nexus, another major inconvenience.
In fact the only way I see to use the voice capabilities is to keep the google search bar on the home screen. I don't see the program even listed in the apps.
Perhaps many of these issues can be addressed in an upgrade, but this device's starting point is very disappointing to me, worse than the bolt.
4 hours?
I don't know what to say to any of that.
First, I easily get 18-25 hours DAILY depending on how much I use the phone. And I'd like to point on that I am a HEAVY texter (girlfriend ). Maybe you have the LTE version? I'm sure you would get ****ty battery life on LTE all the time and inside of a hospital with low reception.
Second, this has got to be the the fastest and most "fluid" device I have ever owned. I come from a dualcore Tegra 2 G2x, and the Galaxy Nexus just blows it out of the water. There is no comparison. Needless to say, I've also owned a Nexus One, Samsung Vibrant, and a G2 (The G2 with a processor most closest to your Thunderbolt).
Third, the phone vibrates just fine in my experience. If you're having troubles with it, put your incoming call ringtone on silent and raise your notification ringtone volume. That way you don't have to worry about a random call disturbing the peace.
Fourth, you must remember this is a Google Nexus device. Most games come optimized for Nexus devices. Give it time, your favorite games will be updated. In the mean time, there are plenty of other games you could play (Age of Zombies? )
Fifth, are you really going to complain about the focusing? The Galaxy Nexus has an instant shutter speed. If you want a better focus, how about you hold onto the shutter button before releasing it instantly?
I don't know about changing the input method via long press since the stock keyboard is the best I've ever used on an android device.
If you really do need a "hardware" search button, just apply a mod. If not, then just press home and it's there right at the top. Seems pretty convenient to me
I'd just like to point out to you that most of these "issues" will never be fixed as they are UPGRADES from the previous versions of android. Sorry
I am indeed an LTE user on Verizon. The battery problem seems to be real, as documented on this forum and elsewhere.
Good to hear you are doing so well, implying that there is some kind of drain issue isolated to the verizon LTE launch.
I am coming from a Thunderbolt, and while the device isn't slow, the rooted/modded bolt was significantly faster at launching gmail, yahoo mail, go sms texting, facebook etc... I suspect that this too will be fixed, but its frustrating that a more powerful device on paper is actually performing worse than an almost year old device.
Any other Thunderbolt users notice the lag on the nexus that I am referring to?
The vibrate feature is perhaps a matter of personal preference. What is fine for you, may not be nearly enough for others. I will try your suggestions though and appreciate it. I prefer to have my device in my pocket, and need to feel the vibrations as they are often emergent pages. Again, the vibration issue seems to be a real problem documented hear and elsewhere on the web.
The camera issue isn't about the speed, which is impressive. The problem is too many photos don't focus properly. The bolt took terrific pictures in comparison albeit at a slower pace. Flash photography indoors is not even passable in my opinion. Perhaps this latter problem can be or has been fixed in 3rd party camera applications. I am just not aware of any at the moment.
The gaming issue concerns me the least. I agree that this will likely be fixed with updated games quickly. I only raised it because my number one favorite game was affected!
Assigning voice capabilities to a long press is a real convenience on the bolt. I don't even have to look at the screen to make it text, email, call, find directions, do a google search, or launch an application. While you may find an alternative "easy" isn't he whole point about android the UI and being able to customize it to your hearts content. I am 100% confident that this will be addressed in some modification or add on program, but it is not easily done now.
Thanks for your kind thoughts.
I'm coming from a Thunderbolt and I noticed the slow responsiveness when calling on some apps in the Nexus right away. I guess my expectations were pretty high from the get go. I'll give it some time, The developers put a lot of work into the Tbolt to get it to perform fast, I'm sure the same will happen with the Nexus.
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The problem is you came from a device that had development optimization for almost 10 months to a brand new development phone. If you were running a stock Thunderbolt the whole time, you would more notice the difference between the two phones. I also came from a thunderbolt running MIUI ICS and Eternity ROMS, I can tell that this phone is significantly better in every respect but the camera. But, as a phone, I don't expect the camera to be awesome. The vibrate is more elegant on this phone compared to TBs brutal shock of a vibrate, I still feel it just fine.
Your other annoyances sound more like trivial irritations rather than actual device problems, aside from the battery in which case I would say turn off LTE and it would last longer. Changing the hardware buttons wasnt a stock feature on any android phone, that was part of development. People forget that these devices take a dew days to a week for battery to run properly and once development takes off, this phone will be a monster in a month's time when everything is better optimized and features are added.
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I'm coming from a Thunderbolt and I noticed the slow responsiveness when calling on some apps in the Nexus right away. I guess my expectations were pretty high from the get go. I'll give it some time, The developers put a lot of work into the Tbolt to get it to perform fast, I'm sure the same will happen with the Nexus.
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I was really surprised because the responsiveness of this device has been one of the big selling features. I agree that this will likely be corrected with OTA updates and modded devices, but out of the box I was expecting it to be faster than my nearly one year old Thunderbolt, and was disappointed it wasn't.
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The problem is you came from a device that had development optimization for almost 10 months to a brand new development phone. If you were running a stock Thunderbolt the whole time, you would more notice the difference between the two phones. I also came from a thunderbolt running MIUI ICS and Eternity ROMS, I can tell that this phone is significantly better in every respect but the camera. But, as a phone, I don't expect the camera to be awesome. The vibrate is more elegant on this phone compared to TBs brutal shock of a vibrate, I still feel it just fine.
Your other annoyances sound more like trivial irritations rather than actual device problems, aside from the battery in which case I would say turn off LTE and it would last longer. Changing the hardware buttons wasnt a stock feature on any android phone, that was part of development. People forget that these devices take a dew days to a week for battery to run properly and once development takes off, this phone will be a monster in a month's time when everything is better optimized and features are added.
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I agree that many of these issues can be corrected. When I bought my bolt, battery life was dreadful. After a quick root and cyanogen install, it was resolved. But out of the box, it still was a more polished experience than this device is.
These may be "trivial irritations" to you, but they are significant to me. I am looking for the most complete and polished smartphone experience. The nexus promised everything, and has not delivered as of yet in my experience. In fact there is really very little it has lived up to judging by the hype.
Clearly there are others with similar problems. I hope and expect many/most to be fixed.
This may be germane to those of us coming from an optimized Bolt, which is still a very worthy piece of hardware. I cant speak for other devices, as the only other android device I have extensive experience is the original droid incredible, which ironically is still fantastic and faster in many ways to the new Nexus in my experience.
At this point, very little of the promised features and experience have lived up to expectations. Perhaps the hype was too great, but I am hopeful this all will be fixed with software updates.
I hope people don't take this as a personal attack on the device, as I know many feel passionate about such things.
well, hardware wise the Nexus is superior to the Thunderbolt and almost as good as the Rezound. I think the main issue right now is ICS. i notice its still very buggy and lots of apps i used to use either dont support ICS or have issues running on ICS. its just a matter of time before everything is running properly.
Brand new Operating System, on a brand new phone. You have had the phone all of 4 days and expect it to be perfect already. I think you need to give it some time. You already said yourseld you modded your TB. Expect the same with this phone. And when and on a new OS you can not expect every app to work immediately. Looks like you should of waited a month to get the phone, or go back to the TB for another month and hold onto the Nexus. I currently have a TB myself.
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well, hardware wise the Nexus is superior to the Thunderbolt and almost as good as the Rezound. I think the main issue right now is ICS. i notice its still very buggy and lots of apps i used to use either dont support ICS or have issues running on ICS. its just a matter of time before everything is running properly.
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I suspect you are correct. I was just surprised that virtually nothing that was promised on this device has been realized at launch. I am used to new phones being buggy, but virtually every aspect of this device has fallen short at launch and not consistent with the reviews.
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Brand new Operating System, on a brand new phone. You have had the phone all of 4 days and expect it to be perfect already. I think you need to give it some time. You already said yourseld you modded your TB. Expect the same with this phone. And when and on a new OS you can not expect every app to work immediately. Looks like you should of waited a month to get the phone, or go back to the TB for another month and hold onto the Nexus. I currently have a TB myself.
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I never said I expected it to be perfect. That is an unreasonable expectation of any device, even one that has matured and polished over time.
I do expect a flagship device to deliver on some of what was promised. This device has delivered on very few promises at launch. So far disappointed, but very hopeful it will be fixed.
makes me appreciate my hspa th even more
priapos said:
I never said I expected it to be perfect. That is an unreasonable expectation of any device, even one that has matured and polished over time.
I do expect a flagship device to deliver on some of what was promised. This device has delivered on very few promises at launch. So far disappointed, but very hopeful it will be fixed.
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But there are bugs with any device, especially on a new OS. Look at apple, they know how to bring new devices to market, but at launch iOS 5 was plagued with bugs, most notable was the battery drain.
But what promises hasn't the Nexus kept? I'm a little curious. Because to me, the Nexus line promises to bring the best hardware and software in terms of functionality, and to me the phone doesn't fall short of any expectations.
To each his own, right?
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I am indeed an LTE user on Verizon. The battery problem seems to be real, as documented on this forum and elsewhere.
Good to hear you are doing so well, implying that there is some kind of drain issue isolated to the verizon LTE launch.
I am coming from a Thunderbolt, and while the device isn't slow, the rooted/modded bolt was significantly faster at launching gmail, yahoo mail, go sms texting, facebook etc... I suspect that this too will be fixed, but its frustrating that a more powerful device on paper is actually performing worse than an almost year old device.
Any other Thunderbolt users notice the lag on the nexus that I am referring to?
The vibrate feature is perhaps a matter of personal preference. What is fine for you, may not be nearly enough for others. I will try your suggestions though and appreciate it. I prefer to have my device in my pocket, and need to feel the vibrations as they are often emergent pages. Again, the vibration issue seems to be a real problem documented hear and elsewhere on the web.
The camera issue isn't about the speed, which is impressive. The problem is too many photos don't focus properly. The bolt took terrific pictures in comparison albeit at a slower pace. Flash photography indoors is not even passable in my opinion. Perhaps this latter problem can be or has been fixed in 3rd party camera applications. I am just not aware of any at the moment.
The gaming issue concerns me the least. I agree that this will likely be fixed with updated games quickly. I only raised it because my number one favorite game was affected!
Assigning voice capabilities to a long press is a real convenience on the bolt. I don't even have to look at the screen to make it text, email, call, find directions, do a google search, or launch an application. While you may find an alternative "easy" isn't he whole point about android the UI and being able to customize it to your hearts content. I am 100% confident that this will be addressed in some modification or add on program, but it is not easily done now.
Thanks for your kind thoughts.
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you cant compare a rooted device with a custom rom and kernel to one that is just rooted stock, its like comparing my old droid 1 to the galaxy nexus, your not comparing apples to apples
now maybe it could be that i came from the droid x(rooted and running cm7) but this phone is just amazing compared to my droid x and my og droid
sure i lost some features like longpress to search but i gained so many new ones(face unlock, 4g, google wallet, ect.) that i see they weigh out the loss of that feature, just my $0.02 though
battery on the other hand though is really bad, i will get about 5-6 hours at most(im a heavy user though) i just reset my battery stats for the first time though so im gonna hope that fixes it, have you though about getting the extended battery?
I put the extended battery in yesterday and made my way home from my best friend's place (a 3 hour drive). I listened to music via Poweramp over the car stereo for 2 hours and 15 minutes of the drive and then took a 45 minute phone call. Checked the battery after all that and the Gnex was at 71% battery. My guess is those of you with issues have some rogue app blowing your battery up. And comparisons with the Thunderbolt? My friend's brother in law had a loaner Thunderbolt he got from VZW whilst waiting for a new phone to come in as warranty replacement. It was running the stock ROM. The Nexus is crazily significantly faster than a stock TB. Reiterating the point of others, just wait til the devs get 10 months of development time on the Nexus - hell, give them 2 weeks and come to us and tell us how the phone is versus the TB. I had a Rezound. Great phone, but lack of S-Off (root) and dev support is why I jumped ship back to the Nexus.
I just sold my Thunderbolt, and I don't have any speed issues with the device whatsoever. It is much, much quicker than the Thunderbolt.
My launch TB had horrific battery life. I guarantee yours did too. Only after significant modding and kernel work for months was the TB acceptable with battery life. While I agree battery life stinks right now, it will get much better, and much quicker than the TB did.
One of your programs isn't compatible with ICS and it is sucking up your battery by running all the time. Try to find out what it is.
Games/apps need to be rewritten to be compatible with ICS. Give it time.
After a month or two, this phone is going to be twice as good than it is now. We already have Google Wallet available after 3 days! It is just going to get better.
Download "Camera ZOOM Fx" and your photos will be a lot more detailed and colorful
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I just sold my Thunderbolt, and I don't have any speed issues with the device whatsoever. It is much, much quicker than the Thunderbolt.
My launch TB had horrific battery life. I guarantee yours did too. Only after significant modding and kernel work for months was the TB acceptable with battery life. While I agree battery life stinks right now, it will get much better, and much quicker than the TB did.
One of your programs isn't compatible with ICS and it is sucking up your battery by running all the time. Try to find out what it is.
Games/apps need to be rewritten to be compatible with ICS. Give it time.
After a month or two, this phone is going to be twice as good than it is now. We already have Google Wallet available after 3 days! It is just going to get better.
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I agree that the battery life on the original Bolt was terrible. The starting point of the Nexus in my opinion is many leagues worse. Today I had to recharge my device 4 times. The last time was after it drained in just over 49 minutes!!
The device has been wiped and factory default, so anything that is sucking up the juice, came with the phone. Its incomprehensible that Google would launch a device with a built in program using this much juice.
Given the comments in this thread, I just spent the past half hour testing an unrooted Bolt, bought the exam same day, from the exact same store as mine. The device was quicker than my Nexus in virtually every regard. Launching gmail, yahoo mail, browser, go sms texting, scrolling, opening settings... You get the point.
I agree the device will get better. It cant get much worse in this regard.
I will be quick to root and install cyanogen.
I am very disappointed at this time, but look forward to brighter future for the device.
45 minutes? something is wrong with your phone or you are on the edge of LTE signal
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I am indeed an LTE user on Verizon. The battery problem seems to be real, as documented on this forum and elsewhere.
Good to hear you are doing so well, implying that there is some kind of drain issue isolated to the verizon LTE launch.
I am coming from a Thunderbolt, and while the device isn't slow, the rooted/modded bolt was significantly faster at launching gmail, yahoo mail, go sms texting, facebook etc... I suspect that this too will be fixed, but its frustrating that a more powerful device on paper is actually performing worse than an almost year old device.
Any other Thunderbolt users notice the lag on the nexus that I am referring to?
The vibrate feature is perhaps a matter of personal preference. What is fine for you, may not be nearly enough for others. I will try your suggestions though and appreciate it. I prefer to have my device in my pocket, and need to feel the vibrations as they are often emergent pages. Again, the vibration issue seems to be a real problem documented hear and elsewhere on the web.
The camera issue isn't about the speed, which is impressive. The problem is too many photos don't focus properly. The bolt took terrific pictures in comparison albeit at a slower pace. Flash photography indoors is not even passable in my opinion. Perhaps this latter problem can be or has been fixed in 3rd party camera applications. I am just not aware of any at the moment.
The gaming issue concerns me the least. I agree that this will likely be fixed with updated games quickly. I only raised it because my number one favorite game was affected!
Assigning voice capabilities to a long press is a real convenience on the bolt. I don't even have to look at the screen to make it text, email, call, find directions, do a google search, or launch an application. While you may find an alternative "easy" isn't he whole point about android the UI and being able to customize it to your hearts content. I am 100% confident that this will be addressed in some modification or add on program, but it is not easily done now.
Thanks for your kind thoughts.
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My GN is on order and I currently have a modded Thunderbolt. I can't stand that phone at all, and I have been rooted and running Team BAMF ROM for a while. It lags horribly even with overclock, and while on 3G I barely get 7-8 hours. I hate it.
I'm hoping your problems don't translate to mine.

My criticism of the VZW CDMA/LTE Nexus

1. Battery life sucks. I had to bring a charger to work. Battery life sucks so bad that I switched back to my Thunderbolt, a phone not known for its great battery life either, but at least I'm no longer a slave monitoring my battery use. I can stream music and browse or game at the same time without needing a charger close at hand.
2. The gnex screen is a disappointment, especially at low back light levels. And I thought that SAMOLED pentile matrix screens were supposed to be energy efficient compared to normal LCD displays, but I've never seen such a battery life sucker in a phone. Inverted apps and black backgrounds don't help.
3. CDMA/LTE Radio. Not horrible, and getting better. Pretty much all if my LTE problems were network related. CDMA has been flakier for me but the 4.04 update seemed much better for the short time I used it. All CDMA/LTE combo phones suck battery life.
4. Apps/Market/ICS. So many of the games I've purchased are incompatible with the gnex its laughable. I must have $50 of games that I can't play on my gnex.
5. No good car and home docks.
This criticism post isn't meant to rile up gnex fanboys. My intention is to give valid criticism for people doing research before buying a new phone.
The VZW Nexus is a high maintenance phone, which needs users to constantly monitor battery use, make compromises on how they use their phone, and need chargers close at hand, but there are no good charging docks. Many games are incompatible with the gnex too.
So due to the hassles of using a VZW Nexus, I've gone back to my Thunderbolt as my every day phone, and my gnex has been relegated to being a mini wifi tablet that has a charger nearby.
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You lost me when you said you went back to a Thunderbolt and were previously *****ing about battery life, LTE radios, and the like.
Logical.....not.
Battery life is increased with the 4.0.4 patch.
Games not working isn't the fault of the GNex, its up to the game dev to update their game to make it work in Ice Cream Sandwich.
Poor radio...that's subjective. I get great reception in my town. Its not necessarily the phones fault you get poor signal. Also, signal strength is improved in the 4.0.4 patch.
This phone may not have the most features forever, but that's the point. Nexus phones spur innovation in the other OEM's.
Sorry you're disappointed.
Funny, I came from a Thunderbolt and I thought it had decent battery. Will disagree on the fact that this Nexus is worse than that; it's been better (much better) compared to a Tbolt.
Whatever floats your boat though. One less battery thread then I guess.
adrynalyne said:
You lost me when you said you went back to a Thunderbolt and were previously *****ing about battery life, LTE radios, and the like.
Logical.....not.
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This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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1. You're doing something wrong with your battery. I'm consistently getting 1 day on the battery and still having some juice left over, and each GNex owner I know personally is getting the same results.
2. Backlight? You do know how AMOLED works right? On power efficiency, remember how you've got an HD display on the GNex? it has more pixels to push than the TBolt. It has already been proven that "pure black" is more efficient, but no one does that. Look at the power draw of the Rezound screen, it's ugly.
You're trolling, don't pretend you aren't.
spencer88 said:
This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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yeap, thread closed then opened another one for the same thing.. stupidity has no bounds here..
Where's operation iron fist when you need it?
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What don't you understand? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
On my thunderbolt, I was able to stream the entire Super Bowl (commercials and halftime show too) over LTE with lots of battery life to spare. With my gnex, I would have had to put it on a charger or changed the battery some time in the 3rd quarter.
With my gnex I'm constantly making compromises on my phone use. Do I want to stream music or do want to browse or game? With my thunderbolt, I don't need to worry about making those compromises, I just stream music constantly, and browse and game without constantly monitoring battery usage.
With the vzw gnex, no kernel or rom yet has really helped the battery suck, but my Bolt on stock Sense sips on the battery by comparison. And as I mentioned in my OP, the Thunderbolt isn't known for good battery life, only in a head to head comparison with the gnex does the Bolt seem to have efficient battery use.
Do you still have a Thunderbolt? Go back to using that for a week. You'll be amazed at how much more use you'll get out of it compared to the gnex.
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kurttrail said:
What don't you understand? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
On my thunderbolt, I was able to stream the entire Super Bowl (commercials and halftime show too) over LTE with lots of battery life to spare. With my gnex, I would have had to put it on a charger or changed the battery some time in the 3rd quarter.
With my gnex I'm constantly making compromises on my phone use. Do I want to stream music or do want to browse or game? With my thunderbolt, I don't need to worry about making those compromises, I just stream music constantly, and browse and game without constantly monitoring battery usage.
With the vzw gnex, no kernel or rom yet has really helped the battery suck, but my Bolt on stock Sense sips on the battery by comparison. And as I mentioned in my OP, the Thunderbolt isn't known for good battery life, only in a head to head comparison with the gnex does the Bolt seem to have efficient battery use.
Do you still have a Thunderbolt? Go back to using that for a week. You'll be amazed at how much more use you'll get out of it compared to the gnex.
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Nobody cares what phone you use or what phone you think is better. We all know you're a troll.
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spencer88 said:
This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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LOL! Its my valid criticism of the phone after using it for over a month and a half.
And I'm still using it as a mini wifi tablet.
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kurttrail said:
LOL! Its my valid criticism of the phone after using it for over a month and a half.
And I'm still using it as a mini wifi tablet.
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It's your "valid criticism" that no one cares about. Go troll the thunderbolt forums, leave the adults alone.
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Azeolus said:
1. You're doing something wrong with your battery. I'm consistently getting 1 day on the battery and still having some juice left over, and each GNex owner I know personally is getting the same results.
2. Backlight? You do know how AMOLED works right? On power efficiency, remember how you've got an HD display on the GNex? it has more pixels to push than the TBolt. It has already been proven that "pure black" is more efficient, but no one does that. Look at the power draw of the Rezound screen, it's ugly.
You're trolling, don't pretend you aren't.
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1. When I use my phone the most is over lte. I doubt you'll get that battery life the way I use my phone. I've spent the last month and a half compromising my use to the gnex's battery suck, in comparison to my phone use with my Bolt. I'm sick and tired of being a slave to monitoring battery use.
2. I've installed every inverted app that I can find. Inverted the browser, and have a pure black background. The energy savings is no more than mere minutes.
And I'm not trolling. I'm sharing my valid criticism of my gnex in comparison to my Bolt. Why can't a person do that without being called a troll?
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Where's operation iron fist when you need it?
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Iron fist? Can't a person post valid criticism in this forum without veiled threats of violence?
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kurttrail said:
Iron fist? Can't a person post valid criticism in this forum without veiled threats of violence?
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Violence????? Lol. Iron fist is XDA's garbage cleaning initiative. Sigh.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/operation-iron-fist-is-now-in-full-force/
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spencer88 said:
Nobody cares what phone you use or what phone you think is better. We all know you're a troll.
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Is name calling allowed in this forum? It certainly isn't on topic, which is my valid criticism of using a VZW Nexus for over a month and a half in comparison to my Bolt.
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I'm more interested to hear what the phone has to say about about you as an owner. And blame the game devs...
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lrs421 said:
It's your "valid criticism" that no one cares about. Go troll the thunderbolt forums, leave the adults alone.
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People researching their next phone purchase may care. And that's my intended audience.
With all the "I get great battery life" posts in this forum, a contrary opinion is needed, especially when you see the screen shots with hardly any display use.
I get great battery use too, in airplane mode and on standby, but if I want to use the display and 4g, the battery sucks much much faster than the same use on my Bolt. That's a fact, Jack!
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Fahrenheit said:
Battery life is increased with the 4.0.4 patch.
Games not working isn't the fault of the GNex, its up to the game dev to update their game to make it work in Ice Cream Sandwich.
Poor radio...that's subjective. I get great reception in my town. Its not necessarily the phones fault you get poor signal. Also, signal strength is improved in the 4.0.4 patch.
This phone may not have the most features forever, but that's the point. Nexus phones spur innovation in the other OEM's.
Sorry you're disappointed.
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I'm using the 4.04 leak now. CDMA Radio seems more stable. I get great LTE signal where I use my phone the most, so constantly switching radios hasn't been a problem, nor a major battery drain for me.
My problem was with CDMA flakiness when driving, but 4.04 seems to have stabilized that, which I did mention in my OP.
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bowsersoulstar said:
Funny, I came from a Thunderbolt and I thought it had decent battery. Will disagree on the fact that this Nexus is worse than that; it's been better (much better) compared to a Tbolt.
Whatever floats your boat though. One less battery thread then I guess.
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How is the VZW Nexus better than your Bolt? Please give an example on how the gnex battery usage is " much better," because I can stream music constantly while browsing or gaming for hours more on my Bolt than I can on my gnex.
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Now weve had a play

Ok so now weve all had a decent play with our OX whats everyones thoughts?
Mod or Die
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
Are you considering a switch i lv put the ox back in the box an using my gs2 in hope a fix comes via OTA for all the little bugs
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Arthur Hucksake said:
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
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Arthur. You're boring.
If your device is that bad then send it back as it's clear you're having a lot more problems than everyone else.
no problems here in anyway battery life is fine handset running smooth and fastttttt....................superb device love mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After I found a way to move my Angry bird space progress without Titanium backup, I'm content using un-rooted one x for now.
I'd like to use Adblock for web browsing and Autostarts to stop some apps from running, but ICS RAM management seems to be working fine.
Battery life seems OK, got 3 hrs 40 mins with full screen brightness and 3G on 2nd full charge.
Arthur Hucksake said:
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
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I get fantastic battery life!
DaveDesire said:
Arthur. You're boring.
If your device is that bad then send it back as it's clear you're having a lot more problems than everyone else.
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I will send it back after the bank holiday IF I can get an RMA off Handtec.
I won't quit moaning about it, the OP asked for an opinion so I gave it. It's a big chunk of change to put down on a device to have something important let you down.
It's hard to appreciate a device when you can only get 3 hours screen time off a 3 hour charge.
It totally undoes all of the good work HTC have done with it. If you took the battery life of say an iPhone 4 and applied it here, it would be hands down the best piece of kit ever to come out. Literally.
I wouldn't use it as often at home because that is what the laptop and high end gaming PC is there for, so when out and about without access to a plug socket you want it to be at least reasonable. It seriously isn't.
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
Battery isn't great but its nothing different than other android phones.
ok so having had it since 7am this morning i must say its amazing, its buttery smooth, not had 1 bit of lag or stutter,
as it stands atm its currently on 9 hours 17 mins and the use i have been doing is
downloaded 7 apps,
installed gta3 from tegra zone which the download to play is 492mb over wifi,
took about 30 odd pics 2 videos 35 secs each
phone calls for about 45 mins total
set up dropbox,browsed ebay for 7 mins and brought 2 items,
ran 4x benchmarks
browesed market place for about 10 mins
sent and recieved around 40 texts,
played around on facebook,
as im a phone shop manager i treated myself for a comparison on it with
the razr
xperia s
s2
my nexus s
mainly cameras , benchmarks speed tests, really testing day .
1 major astonishment i found was
i managed to take come off lock screen boot camera-take a pic before the xperia s got into camera mode. winner,
but so far so good no issues from me and my sexy white x
cheers,
Arthur Hucksake said:
I will send it back after the bank holiday IF I can get an RMA off Handtec.
I won't quit moaning about it, the OP asked for an opinion so I gave it. It's a big chunk of change to put down on a device to have something important let you down.
It's hard to appreciate a device when you can only get 3 hours screen time off a 3 hour charge.
It totally undoes all of the good work HTC have done with it. If you took the battery life of say an iPhone 4 and applied it here, it would be hands down the best piece of kit ever to come out. Literally.
I wouldn't use it as often at home because that is what the laptop and high end gaming PC is there for, so when out and about without access to a plug socket you want it to be at least reasonable. It seriously isn't.
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
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Whats the problem,
At the moment, I'm getting a very similar screen on time to my SGS2 (3+hrs) & my HTC ONE X screen is much brighter then I ever had it on my SGS2.
Its also a known fact (due to reviewers) that 1.27, which we don't have yet, 'dramatically' improves battery life with 1.28 'rumoured' to extend it even further!
Arthur Hucksake said:
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
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I guess it is the chance we take on buying the device at launch, there always going to be problems both hardware and software we sometime so-called "bata tester" get stuck with.
You could just return it and wait for couple of months to see if HTC made any improvmements.
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Whats the problem,
At the moment, I'm getting a very similar screen on time to my SGS2 (3+hrs) & my HTC ONE X screen is much brighter then I ever had it on my SGS2.
Its also a known fact (due to reviewers) that 1.27, which we don't have yet, 'dramatically' improves battery life with 1.28 'rumoured' to extend it even further!
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That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
Arthur Hucksake said:
That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
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You clearly didn't get a DHD or sensation on launch, they had problems and I'm sure I can't remember your username popping up a million times
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Arthur Hucksake said:
That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
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Even without the update, your still getting a battery life very similar to Samsungs current flagship device (which has had a few software updates) - this is with a much brighter screen, a larger HD screen & a quad core processor when compared to the SGS2.
Are you just pissed you haven't got the 1.27 update (& don't know when you will...), or do you really think the battery is that bad?
I know 1.27 is gonna improve the battery, but even in its current state - when I compare it, it ain't that bad compared to the competition.
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Even without the update, your still getting a battery life very similar to Samsungs current flagship device (which has had a few software updates) - this is with a much brighter screen, a larger HD screen & a quad core processor when compared to the SGS2.
Are you just pissed you haven't got the 1.27 update (& don't know when you will...), or do you really think the battery is that bad?
I know 1.27 is gonna improve the battery, but even in its current state - when I compare it, it ain't that bad compared to the competition.
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I had the SGS2 and the battery life is better than what we got here, seriously.
And I did have a Sensation around launch , it was glitchy but again the battery life was not this poor.
But it could also be a case of not noticing it as much because I could carry a spare battery if need be, but never felt the need to use it.
Today our car broke down on the motorway and after calling the RAC then having to get a tow, the battery was nearly depleted and I had the worry of whether it would last long enough to take the call from when they arrived.
Then having to send a few texts to let people know we wouldn't be getting there, just how on earth are you meant to appreciate the greatness of this phone with the constant battery worries?
Random point, but do this.
Go into the Play store, scroll down the free apps for a short while, then check your battery status. 3 or 4% down having done practically nothing.
Such are the risks of getting a v1.0 anything I'm afraid, it will almost always not be as good as v1.1+. You take the chance of having initial issues vs. having the latest greatest device first. This has always been the way, some of the early release iPhones have had terrible problems until receiving patches.
At the moment I'm loving the phone, I don't think the battery is all that bad so far, but looking forward to the updates making it better, I'm certainly happy with the choice I made, no question.
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Such are the risks of getting a v1.0 anything I'm afraid, it will almost always not be as good as v1.1+. You take the chance of having initial issues vs. having the latest greatest device first. This has always been the way, some of the early release iPhones have had terrible problems until receiving patches.
At the moment I'm loving the phone, I don't think the battery is all that bad so far, but looking forward to the updates making it better, I'm certainly happy with the choice I made, no question.
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Think I will try a swap out for another, see how that fares. If it is exactly the same then atleast I know i've given it a fair roll of the dice.
It's like I am really hoping there is something wrong with mine, and the battery isn't how it's meant to be but the pattern is common on here and usage stats are all pretty much the same.
I wouldn't say its right to compare it to the iPhone neither. HTC have had plenty of time to get this right. I've had the Hero> Desire > Sensation and now this. Each time I keep expecting them to "get it right" and they never quite make it.
The craziest thing is, the Hero is still my pick of the bunch judging by how I felt at the time and the fact I added a hench battery and made it even better.
i think alot of users were expecting too much from the phone massive hype led to a kick in the nuts for some .. ????take the phone as it is, if battery is going to make or break your decision then a machine like this maybe isnt for you.
end of the day it is android 4 with sense 4 big screen quad core - expect battery to be poor until you have a few cycles and updates are sent out, dhd was worse i had 2 off them....
cheers
Im getting my HTC One X on Tuesday next week from phones4u hopefully, cant wait!. But ive read such a difference in people experiences with the battery life of this phone that im not sure what to make of it! lol, ill just have to wait and see I guess and report back how i find it, it promising to see that the majority, correct me if im wrong, of UK users seem to be reporting good battery life though!

Potential ONE X buyer

Got a few questions:
Now then coming from a Galaxy Note and Iphone 4s.
1) Battery life is it as good as the above phones
2) How quick does it recharge, not a slow re charger, needs to be as speedy as the Iphone
3) Wifi strength is it OK like the Note or powerful like the Iphone
4) GPS does it find satellites instantly like the Note or pretty quick like the Iphone..
Other than that the One X seems to be hitting all the plus points for me, hope you don't mind the comparisons to other phones
theres a problem with the wifi antenna, which also serves as the bluetooth antenna. the wifi is that good on the one x, that even when its broken it can still get good signal.
the gps may also use the same antenna not 100% sure. so if you got a one x with the antenna problem (which afaik, all one x's have a chance of getting this)
the battery life is good - however when you actually start using the phone, it does go pretty quickly. not much more quickly than the iphone though. in standby times, it wouldn't surprise me if hox had better battery life.
it charges quick enough (probabyl about 2-3hours). if you're using sat nav whilst charging, then it'll charge slower. but that happens with any phone anyway.
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Got a few questions:
Now then coming from a Galaxy Note and Iphone 4s.
1) Battery life is it as good as the above phones
2) How quick does it recharge, not a slow re charger, needs to be as speedy as the Iphone
3) Wifi strength is it OK like the Note or powerful like the Iphone
4) GPS does it find satellites instantly like the Note or pretty quick like the Iphone..
Other than that the One X seems to be hitting all the plus points for me, hope you don't mind the comparisons to other phones
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Read around the forum mate, then are tons of threads like this - all your questions answered with a simple search.
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Read around the forum mate, then are tons of threads like this - all your questions answered with a simple search.
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hmm was expecting this kind of response, thanks
Thanks Lawrence750, nice helpful stuff. appreciated:good:
I have a issues free One X and everything work flawlessly. GPS , wifi, and bluetooth are all very good.
I don't have a Note to compare but I heard the battery is very good on it (big battery with relatively modest specs so i guess it makes sense) so I don't think the battery on the hox quite compare to the note BUT, the main battery drainer on the One X is the screen which is phenomenal but it seems all this glory comes at a price and it s not uncommun to end the day with 75%+ battery usage from the screen only.
What this means is that on stand by or set on low brightness (the auto brightness tend to be to bright), the phone barely use any power so you can easily manage your power consumption.
That being said the battery life is good enough to handle a day of regular usage and is improving with each update (maybe jelly bean will improve it too).
So I guess I need to check and see if wifi gps and bt work OK before buying it seems.
Looking at some of the developers in here take me back to the Touch HD and HD2 days...
Yes been on XDA since 2007...eeek what an ole git
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hmm was expecting this kind of response, thanks
Thanks Lawrence750, nice helpful stuff. appreciated:good:
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Yet you still started a new thread without searching? Sorry, I am fairly tolerant of noobs not thinking of searching first, it happens but if you expected this kind of response then not searching was rude and ignorant.
Back on topic. Battery life is not as good as the note but with lesser spec and bigger battery that's to be expected.
Screen on time will be close to iPhone 4s but probably slightly less, stand by time is days on end and beats almost any smart phone due to the very low power companion core which is all that runs in standby.
My one x wifi works 40-50 yards from the house with nothing but a free Sky (netgear) router and we have solid 9inch Victorian walls.
Gps lock takes a few seconds generally.
Lastly, you WILL NOT regret buying the One X. The screen and performance are mind boggling!
Sorry tried searching as always on XDA, but so many conflicting responses came back it confused me, sometimes putting your defined questions in one can get more accurate answers, and so far your all extremely helpful, I do apologise if I have been rude and ignorant, but Its also good to see how the community is, as I shall spend ages trawling through this XDA ONE X zone, one of the friendliest sections was the HD2 and loved spending time in there, but the Sammy S2 and S3 seem to have there fair share of pretty rude people, actually puts me off going for an S3, you might say "WHAT" its just a phone, but its not its the community that goes with it...that makes it a better phone
As an ex note user, I can safely say battery life is poor in comparison, however the hox more than makes it up in most other aspects. By far the best android phone around at the moment.
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People tend to get rude if you coach the question with comparisons to other phones. You'll have to pardon that since there are a metric ton of phone trolls that love to stir the pot.
My HOX is trouble free. Wifi is awesome and GPS is spot on. I don't have the update yet but that should improve battery life.
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apallohadas said:
People tend to get rude if you coach the question with comparisons to other phones. You'll have to pardon that since there are a metric ton of phone trolls that love to stir the pot.
My HOX is trouble free. Wifi is awesome and GPS is spot on. I don't have the update yet but that should improve battery life.
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you're right, i was sooo tempted to slag off the iphone a bit lol.
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you're right, i was sooo tempted to slag off the iphone a bit lol.
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Don't ask...I create animation for App developers so needed one for testing purposes...god its yawnful
Oh Another thing, the sound quality on the Note was pretty mediocre to say the least, the Iphones is pretty spot on, but I can imagine the Beats HTC is the best Yay?
THUDUK said:
Got a few questions:
Now then coming from a Galaxy Note and Iphone 4s.
1) Battery life is it as good as the above phones
2) How quick does it recharge, not a slow re charger, needs to be as speedy as the Iphone
3) Wifi strength is it OK like the Note or powerful like the Iphone
4) GPS does it find satellites instantly like the Note or pretty quick like the Iphone..
Other than that the One X seems to be hitting all the plus points for me, hope you don't mind the comparisons to other phones
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1 - Battery life is great, I've never had a day where it has died, always lasts the day which is all you need in a phone, as it can then be charged during sleep?
2 - Re-charge is also great, mine goes from Red to 100% within a couple of hours.
3 - WiFi strength isn't bad, always as good as, if not better than my laptop and PC
4 - It always has a good signal, what I will say that I have noticed is that sometimes, not all the time but sometimes, if you lose signal it will not repick the signal up until the phone has restarted.
Hope this helps.
THUDUK said:
Don't ask...I create animation for App developers so needed one for testing purposes...god its yawnful
Oh Another thing, the sound quality on the Note was pretty mediocre to say the least, the Iphones is pretty spot on, but I can imagine the Beats HTC is the best Yay?
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the speaker on the one x sucks. but when plugged in its pretty good. Apt-x (hs3000) sounds almost better than having it plugged in, which makes the headphone socket seem pretty crap, but trust me its fine.
THUDUK said:
Got a few questions:
Now then coming from a Galaxy Note and Iphone 4s.
1) Battery life is it as good as the above phones
2) How quick does it recharge, not a slow re charger, needs to be as speedy as the Iphone
3) Wifi strength is it OK like the Note or powerful like the Iphone
4) GPS does it find satellites instantly like the Note or pretty quick like the Iphone..
Other than that the One X seems to be hitting all the plus points for me, hope you don't mind the comparisons to other phones
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1 - OK with last update!
2 - Charges a bit slow, but I think it's normal for such a big battery.
3 - Currently there is no phone on the market with better signal strength than hox.
4 - Few seconds.
THUDUK said:
Got a few questions:
Now then coming from a Galaxy Note and Iphone 4s.
1) Battery life is it as good as the above phones
2) How quick does it recharge, not a slow re charger, needs to be as speedy as the Iphone
3) Wifi strength is it OK like the Note or powerful like the Iphone
4) GPS does it find satellites instantly like the Note or pretty quick like the Iphone..
Other than that the One X seems to be hitting all the plus points for me, hope you don't mind the comparisons to other phones
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I should also contribute my lil piece of advice here, as you seem genuine interested and not just the troll kind. Its true that people get offended from threads about phone comparison, but from what I have seen about those 'troll threads" it is all about "Which phone is better? Give me your opinion blah blah blah..." and provides no specific needs, when other people are the ones trying to figure out what the op really wants. and have they spoonfeed to the op. Anyways, I will tell you that you definitely won't regret having a HOX (not really a crapple fan). Comparing to the brick design of the iPhone and the gigantic Note (a bigger brick), to me the HOX phone built really stands out. This is also the first and only smartphone i ever had and I am already enjoying playing around with it. Having said that, I cannot tell you which phones are better in what aspect as I do not possess those smartphones you mentioned. There are lots of battery saving threads you can check around to make the phone easily last about one day and a half depending how you use it. Charging is really not a problem for me because outlets are literally everywhere in this age, even on your computer/ laptop (unless you are coming from a miserable background where outlets are considered luxurious). Before going to bed just simply leave the phone charging and will be good to go when i wake up. GPS... I don't really use it a lot as I mainly rely on the car GPS or google map. Speaking about Wifi, I will say kind of disappointed not because it is not good but I was expecting it to be strong as my laptop. But apparently some bird told me smartphones do have weaker wifi connection.
The biggest blessing for this phone is that there is no need to spend time waiting, praying, and scheming to break out the jail (thanks to Crapple). With One X, I can customize it to my needs (custom roms/ mods/ etc...) I really enjoy using the One Extreme Sound Enhancer to improve the sound quality. There are tons of custom roms floating around this forum so choose it to your liking. The issues you mentioned above, I have heard most are software related glitches and can be fixed by flashing roms. Hope that helps you make the choice. Good luck and have fun with your gadget.
Did you install the latest update from htc? I get 5 hours screen on time which is a lot. Usually i have 20-30% battery left at the end of the day now. It really makes a difference and now my phone is perfect.
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WOW...still mulling this one over, so confused been reading lots of the forum and there are so many conflicting reviews of the phone, from people having to return there HOX's 10 times or so, to antenna, wifi terrible GPS and even amazing extremes of battery usage.
as long as i get the same length of time as my Iphone 4s and it charges nearly as quick i'm happy can always get a battery booster charger like those Anker ones for flights etc...
Just got this reply on AVforums...
I'll suggest you wait for the upgraded HOX+, get the S3, or wait till the end of the month to see what the new Note will be all about. In terms of battery life the HOX is probably the worst of the current bunch of top end phones, however Motorola have a couple of phones with very large battery capacities.
What is a HOX+ ?
Mostly rumour and conjecture based on some benchmark results that appeared online. It's probably specific to some network and marginally tweaked. Might not even work on your network. Nobody knows yet.

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Good evening all i purchased my new lg g4 today in tan and its better than expected,im just wondering what you all think of it if anybody has 1 and was it as expected thanks for readig
I think almost every member on G4 has it. It's great that you're satisfied with your purchase but there is no need to create an extra topic just for this.
Nah its a good topic. This particular's phone community is really bad tho. I have never seen a community bashing others in every single topic. You guys cant wait for root and constantly are putting down new members.
Really...? If you dont like his post, simply ignore it and move the **** on. Back on topic: I really love the G4. It has a great camera, very fast and responsive (had a few touch issues but it was fixed with a software update) great battery life when you disable gps/data when theyre not needed.
Only downside is the design which doesnt look as good after awhile next to the iPhone and Samsung's premium look but you get leather back for that!
I have had it for almost 3 months and Im still not sure about it. Sometimes I really hate it sometimes I just like it. Lollipop is the thing that makes me wants to destroy it the most.
@kidpaddle45
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I just came from a galaxy S6 in all its sapphire goodness. The G4 to me is stunningly beautiful. I was holding it next to my wife's platinum gold S6 and ooh that screen ratio is beautiful. Sure it's not the brightest kid on the block, but who needs to squint to show that off? With accessibility>vision>Screen color adjustment. I can match the colors of sexy amoled just fine. Yes, this is mine and only mine until the Spring flagships are released.
Off topic, the Xperia Z2 Tablet sub is a joke with Real condescending folks.
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Nah its a good topic. This particular's phone community is really bad tho. I have never seen a community bashing others in every single topic. You guys cant wait for root and constantly are putting down new members.
Really...? If you dont like his post, simply ignore it and move the **** on.
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Sadly this is the norm for these forums. So many people are skilled at faulting someone's post and talking to them like they're in kindergarten. My favorite is "USE SEARCH FIRST! ! THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED! ! " As if no one and their grandma has ever heard of Google or has any idea that the forum search tool often sucks.
Right now I really like the phone but it has so much less support than my G3 on these forums plus so many people having strange issues like random boot loops of death on totally unmodified phones. On top of this my variant has no official KDZ/TOT file released
I've had my G4 for about two weeks, and overall I'm happy with it. Battery life could be better, but I think part of it is something strange going on with my phone causing fairly rapid drain every now and then. May try doing a factory reset to see if that helps
It's sort of a love/hate relationship with my G4. While I love the camera and form factor of the phone, I hate the battery life, overheating, and severe lack of development. I'm really hoping Marshmallow will fix some of the issues.
If they could improve the battery life, heating issues, and random performance lag, this would be damn near a perfect phone, even un-rooted. I had the G3 and HATED it. I like the G4 significantly better. I'm curious to see what they do with the G5 next year.
Mine overheats a bit, and I'm not even playing games.
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Mine doesn't. I mean, when I play it does a bit, but it's expected.
I'm about to root my phone (I always do that, this is the first phone that I have for more than 2 weeks unrooted!!), but I do like it a lot (mainly camera).
It's really nice one (came from Galaxy S4).
What bothers me now:
1) When I use ProShot, it's draining the battery a LOT, as well as overheating (I'll check it with the DEV)
2) I do like using Google Now. However, with G4, it keeps activating GPS a LOT, more than usual!! Then, Android System shows as biggest battery drainer.
Overall, very happy.
Cheers.
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I think almost every member on G4 has it. It's great that you're satisfied with your purchase but there is no need to create an extra topic just for this.
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It's the 'General' section so it's OK to post things like that here, I guess.
But to be honest... The title of this thread could have been more professional
I came from a Nexus 5, which I dropped unfortunately... So I was kind of forced to buy the G4 a few weeks ago.
I'm quite satisfied with the whole package. The community support could be better (Maybe I'm spoiled by my 2 years Nexus experience?!)
But I think we have one of the best phones on the market and the community is growing!
Wow. That's what I said too when I took it out of the box.
issues that irk me at the moment
-battery life is horrid even with mods
-heats up a bit and like someone stated above thats not ven when youre playing games.(also flashed heat mod)
-on screen buttons which is my biggest peeve, i dont understand why people love them and they are the norm, they take up screen real estate. i constantly accidently hit them all the time when im doing things in apps. its just my personal experience but in general a clusterFuk for me.
other than that I love everything else.
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-battery life is horrid even with mods
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How much sot/screen time do you get ?
Are you on data ? on wifi ? mix
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kyogiro said:
Mine overheats a bit, and I'm not even playing games.
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Does a reboot improve anything ?
There is no overheating, if it overheats then the device will shut down. SOP on Android.
You have some processes that generating heat. if you're shooting 4k this will happen.
If screen brightness is on max and you're doing something intensive it will happen.
@One Twelve I wouldn't count using Tapatalk as intensive task. Screen brightness level is usually around 40-70%.
The workaround that I use is using power saving mode but the display is dimmer. It is far from ideal, but this way, I can easily last the day without having my battery being drained by the the two cortex A57.
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I have it for a week now, love it ofc. No problems so far. Hope I won't get any in the future too.
I believe battery life depends on what phone u came from. It's will be seem as good battery if u came from s4 but bad if u come from note 4/5.
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I have had it for almost 3 months and Im still not sure about it. Sometimes I really hate it sometimes I just like it. Lollipop is the thing that makes me wants to destroy it the most.
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Kinda the same here. Love the hardware, not a fan of the software. CM12 is coming along very well, though, and as soon as Bluetooth is fixed (so I can use my Moto 360), I'll be moving to that as my daily driver. From limited use, it seems very stable!
One major issue I ran into recently was constant power cycling. Even after 3 factory resets, it would power cycle non-stop. I ended up having to get it replaced.
Strangely enough, my friend's G4 started doing the same thing on the exact same day as mine. Both Verizon variants.
I dont get alot of the comments here. I have great battery life especially on standby. Software wise g4 has less bloatware than samsung and i accredidate that to the good performance and lag free experience when the processor is one gen behind current flagships. The form factor in the hand is good too curved back and back buttons are great and took me no time to get used to coming from samsung. If i have a gripe it could be the touchscreen responsiveness butits nowhere near as bad as some people make out.

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