Scratchability and Glastic - Samsung Galaxy Fold Questions & Answers

Does the Fold user 'Glastic'? Will be interesting to see how scratch resistant it is. Frankly I'd rather have decent scratch recent plastic screen than highly fragile glass.

xenokc said:
Does the Fold user 'Glastic'? Will be interesting to see how scratch resistant it is. Frankly I'd rather have decent scratch recent plastic screen than highly fragile glass.
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This is the thing everyone keeps commenting on. Most screen protectors are plastic, and they hold up pretty well. And going back to all of the older Symbian/UIQ and Windows Mobile devices with resistive plastic screen, they held up pretty well to wear and tear too.
Yes, it will scratch more easily than glass, but I'd like to think neither Samsung nor Huawei would release something as a flagship device that scratches too easily.

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Is the display just plastic?

Just curious, is the display plastic on the G2? I honestly cant tell
I got a screen protector... just in case. I see many phones have decent screens that do not scratch, but I always go with the protection. Also, I have a house full of destructive kids who do not respect daddy's things.
I think everyone is afraid to say things that may sound like a guaranty. We may have to wait until a brave technician tears one down.
plastic screens scratch and dent like crazy. kind of wish they went with glass.
wow, i managed to scratch the gorilla glass screen on my vibrant so i guess i better get some sort of screen protector on this thing asap, sucks they didnt go with glass after putting all the aluminum trim on it
Lol I doubt its plastic
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Yea I really don't think its plastic.
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I'm pretty sure it's plastic. It's quite hard, but still, I think it's plastic. If it were glass, I don't think they would cut a hole in the edge for the speaker to peek out from. That edge around the speaker is also beveled. Again, something I doubt they would do to a glass screen.
Also, glass is very good for holding an anti-glare coating. The Vibrant's glass screen had one. (Ever notice how glare reflections were colored blue?) That's an extremely thin metallic salt coating on the glass (Magnesium Flouride is a popular coating). As far as I know, it's easy to do on glass, but harder on plastic, and is usually reserved for eye glasses. (And may even be a different technology then.) If it were glass, I think they would have used an anti-glare coating. Then again, HTC could just be shaving off pennies by not using an anti-glare coating. But I sill think it's plastic.
I'm just guessing. I'm no expert.
Thes screens on just about all phones are neither plastic nor glass, it's a combination of materials.
Plastic kinda like lcd tvs. I use to have a plasma an i loved the glass on it but glass cracks plastic takes alot before it does anything.
Either way its a nice screen to me and i bet we wont have the screen cracking problem like the nexus ones. Also always use a screen protector its just smart your always have new screen under the protector if the protector gets scratched just replace it. Better then getting another screen.
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Display: 3.7-inch (9.4 cm) flat glass touch-sensitive S-TFT screen with WVGA pixel resolution (480x800)
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Of course I don't know how credible this is since I couldn't find any mention of it in the references.
user1307 said:
Of course I don't know how credible this is since I couldn't find any mention of it in the references.
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Wikipedia should never be used for definitive reference.
All of these screens are "glass", because they are silica based.
Glass. Look up some capacitive TS or mobile phone coverglass spec sheets.
Turn off the screen and look at some glare. You can see wavy inperfections. Glass would have this. It also doesn't feel as hard as glass when I try to scratch it with my fingernail on the edge near the speaker.
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Screen protectors?

Hi All,
I know that the Nexus doesn't have Gorilla Glass, but does anyone know how scratch resistant the screen is? I have never used screen protectors, and don't really want to put one on my Nexus, but if the screen is easily scratched I might have to think about it. Any thoughts?
BenJG
Just put the screen protector. It better having one and not need it. Than not having it and needing it.
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I have a Zagg Invisible Shield on mine. It's really nice... adds a bit of friction, but is just a minor learning curve.
I know how you feel OP. My previous two phones had Gorilla Glass I and never felt that I needed a screen protector. However, the coating on this screen does scratch fairly easily so I recommend picking one up. I just put an XO Skins screen protector on mine and I am loving it. You can't even tell it's there.
@sn0warmy: Thanks for this. When you say it scratches easily, just how easily? I tend to treat my phones pretty gently (i.e. never in the same pocket as keys etc), so do you think I still need a protector? Is the screen at all scratch resistant?
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@sn0warmy: Thanks for this. When you say it scratches easily, just how easily? I tend to treat my phones pretty gently (i.e. never in the same pocket as keys etc), so do you think I still need a protector? Is the screen at all scratch resistant?
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Yes, many people are getting scratches on their phones from just random dirt in their pockets.
It sucks...I've had Gorilla Glass phones in the past, that have been thrown like a baseball at cement walls that haven't scratched or chipped, not to mention never needing a screen protector.
With all my phones I have used an Otterbox Defender series while at work and a sunglass bag when off work, out and about. It works for me, I'm not too clumsy and I am fairly careful with my phone so no scratches for me. I don't know exactly why, but I dislike having to use a screen protector.
The GNex DOES HAVE fortified glass, it's just another type without the Gorilla name.
Samsung Galaxy Nexus survives a key scratch test, worries about Gorilla Glass look silly now
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...es-about-Gorilla-Glass-look-silly-now_id23880
The GNex, while a great phone, does not have the gorilla glass that you've all come to know on other phones. It's bad, and your pocket might as well be sandpaper around it. Cover it up quickly with a screen protector. I speak from experience, my GSM version GNex got "mysteriously" scratched from one day to the next.
Now the question is: Which one? Zagg is leaving horizontal lines on my screen and is pissing me off, so that's out of the question.
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This is all very strange to me, because I had my SGS for nearly a year, never used a case, tossed it in my handbag or hoody pocket with my keys all the time...it has no visible scratches.
I've had my Gnex since Christmas and it already has one deep scratch and also a "ding" in the glass, both of which can be felt if you run a fingernail across the defaced area. I have not been nearly as rough with it as I was with my SGS.
I know the plural of "anecdote" is not "data", but still, my Gnex now wears a screen protector, as much as I hate the bl**dy things. I'm also waiting anxiously for someone to come out with a protective case that I don't hate.
@alias3800 @lilirose --> I guess, judging from both your experiences, it does seem like the Gnex has fortified glass, that is weaker than the well known Gorilla glass from e.g. SGS2. Not that Gorilla glass can't get scratches or break (I've had both situations), but from your descriptions I get the feeling, that it will take less force to damage the GNex fortified glass.
If true and if Gorilla glass is stronger, then one can only wonder why Samsung didn't use it on the GNex, like on the SGS2. Doesn't make sense to me.
Anyway, I will have to see. I hate cases and screen protection, so I will take the chance with no protection and see how it goes.
get some ghost armor, i hate screen protectors and im loving the protection from this product as so many people have had alot of scratching problems.
volapyk said:
@alias3800 @lilirose --> I guess, judging from both your experiences, it does seem like the Gnex has fortified glass, that is weaker than the well known Gorilla glass from e.g. SGS2. Not that Gorilla glass can't get scratches or break (I've had both situations), but from your descriptions I get the feeling, that it will take less force to damage the GNex fortified glass.
If true and if Gorilla glass is stronger, then one can only wonder why Samsung didn't use it on the GNex, like on the SGS2. Doesn't make sense to me.
Anyway, I will have to see. I hate cases and screen protection, so I will take the chance with no protection and see how it goes.
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You can't curve Gorilla glass from my understanding, thus not using it.
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You can't curve Gorilla glass from my understanding, thus not using it.
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On the same data point, I've discovered that dry-application screen protectors are worthless on the Gnex because of the curved glass. I was afraid of the wet-application ones but I decided to try one (XO Skin) after going through 12 dry-application ones without getting a single one aligned and placed without enormous bubbles and peeling edges. I admit I suck at applying the dry ones but with the Gnex it seems pretty much impossible to do.
I consider myself to be gentle on my phones. That being said, I already have a couple small scratches in the glass that in my opinion would not have occurred with a higher grade of fortified glass. I am sure the screen curvature factors into the options they had. So what screen protector is most recommended that is invisible and does not increase friction?
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So what screen protector is most recommended that is invisible and does not increase friction?
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I don't think there is one that's 100% drag-free, but the best one I've found is XO Skins....it doesn't have an orange peel texture, and the drag is only slight after you've broken it in a bit. When I first got mine I thought I wasn't going to be able to stand it because it was rubbery, but after two weeks of use it only feels slightly different to my SGS (which has bare GG).

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Galaxy nexus glass is horrible, com paired to gorrila glass IMO, zagg screen cover left marks in glass, never happened with any of my high dollar other androids . I need good glass polish or cleaner Any1 no and tried a good one??? Care to share?? There not scratches more like marks from like a crayon on glass??? Not visible on clean screen bit once get dirty stands out bad??
I don't think they are actual scratches in the glass. Most likely it's the oleophobic coating being rubbed away. It happened to mine as well in my pocket.
The area without the coating will attract the grease/crud more quickly making it stand out.
If you clean the screen and breathe on it at an angle you can see exactly where it is.
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I don't think they are actual scratches in the glass. Most likely it's the oleophobic coating being rubbed away. It happened to mine as well in my pocket.
The area without the coating will attract the grease/crud more quickly making it stand out.
If you clean the screen and breathe on it at an angle you can see exactly where it is.
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yes!! Exactly,can it be fixed? My gorilla glass made phones haven't done this
Maybe your previous gorilla glass phones didn't have oleophobic coating? Not all phones have it.
I don't believe it can be fixed. Mine got rubbed off from a nylon threaded seam in my pocket. I put a screen protector on after and it isn't visible anymore.
El Daddy said:
Maybe your previous gorilla glass phones didn't have oleophobic coating? Not all phones have it.
I don't believe it can be fixed. Mine got rubbed off from a nylon threaded seam in my pocket. I put a screen protector on after and it isn't visible anymore.
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I dont no if they did? I have quite a few, nexus one, captivate, euro gs2, at&t gs2, nexus s, in use now skyrocket and this Gn . None have done this, but coating.g being wiped off makes sense, I've been using for a week without screen protection and didn't want to put one back on, but ya I think that would make "flaw" go away cause its not visible with clean screen .... thanks for the knowledge!
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I dont no if they did? I have quite a few, nexus one, captivate, euro gs2, at&t gs2, nexus s, in use now skyrocket and this Gn . None have done this, but coating.g being wiped off makes sense, I've been using for a week without screen protection and didn't want to put one back on, but ya I think that would make "flaw" go away cause its not visible with clean screen .... thanks for the knowledge!
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I dont know that any of those phones have the coating.
I'd be careful doing any buffing or removal as it perhaps could remove more of the coating...?
The iPad has a similar oleo-phobic coating to prevent fingerprints. Many small scratches that appear on the screen are actually on the coating and not on the glass. I remember seeing a video of a guy who had had enough of the coating and so he buffed it out with a car buffer. The end result was a spotless iPad, but it would now attract fingerprints much easier than before.
Found the link, http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-1133703.html
Crap I use Zagg too, so the day when I take it off there's a risk the coating will come off? Last time I'm using that brand! Not to mention the orange peel effect!
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The iPad has a similar oleo-phobic coating to prevent fingerprints. Many small scratches that appear on the screen are actually on the coating and not on the glass. I remember seeing a video of a guy who had had enough of the coating and so he buffed it out with a car buffer. The end result was a spotless iPad, but it would now attract fingerprints much easier than before.
Found the link, http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-1133703.html
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wow this should be stickied to the other "screen scratches easily" threads.

The screen protector , take it off

I don't use protectors or cases, just a slim Spiggen sometimes when working outside , but kept the Samsung screen protector on when the phone arrived as it's been so well applied.
Anyway, took it off today and wow the screen is marvellous. Silky smooth finger print improved as well. Makes using the phone so much nicer. Take it off I say .
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I wish I could, but I can't enjoy a device if I know that I'm going to scratch it. It seems that no matter how careful I am, I always get a big scratch in the screen if I don't use a screen protector.
Do you not get screen scratches, or do they not bother you?
Neither, depends what you call a scratch .
I certainly do not obsess about tiny marks you can only see when screen is off.
I can't fathom why anyone would spend a fortune on a phone and not enjoy the full user experience created by the designers
This screen is just a joy.
I avoid putting my phone in a pocket with anything else else.
Modern gorilla glass is so good now so many owners haven't caught up, they keep these phones encased in massive cases
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Davey Dual Sim said:
Neither, depends what you call a scratch .
I certainly do not obsess about tiny marks you can only see when screen is off.
I can't fathom why anyone would spend a fortune on a phone and not enjoy the full user experience created by the designers
This screen is just a joy.
I avoid putting my phone in a pocket with anything else else.
Modern gorilla glass is so good now so many owners haven't caught up, they keep these phones encased in massive cases
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Screen protectors really do take away from the feel and design of the phone. How much of a difference did it make with the fingerprint sensor? I know you said it helped, but is it night and day? You may end up talking me into removing my protector.
lyall29 said:
I wish I could, but I can't enjoy a device if I know that I'm going to scratch it. It seems that no matter how careful I am, I always get a big scratch in the screen if I don't use a screen protector.
Do you not get screen scratches, or do they not bother you?
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I took mine off and I will tell you this anything that's going to scratch your screen is going to go through the pre-installed "screen protector" it is such a thin piece of plastic it's not funny.
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I always put the plastic that comes on my phone in the box and I just checked and it's the exact same material that was on the back of the phone when it first came out of the box.
lyall29 said:
Screen protectors really do take away from the feel and design of the phone. How much of a difference did it make with the fingerprint sensor? I know you said it helped, but is it night and day? You may end up talking me into removing my protector.
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It's not night and day, but definitely faster
Once the protector is of and you feel the screen for the first time you'll be hooked instantly
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I'm going to take mine off. I've never used them before!
Davey Dual Sim said:
It's not night and day, but definitely faster
Once the protector is of and you feel the screen for the first time you'll be hooked instantly
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Thanks, I'll take mine off too. It's high time I get over my fear of scratches. Like you said, why pay so much for a device and not enjoy it.
Davey Dual Sim said:
Neither, depends what you call a scratch .
I certainly do not obsess about tiny marks you can only see when screen is off.
I can't fathom why anyone would spend a fortune on a phone and not enjoy the full user experience created by the designers
This screen is just a joy.
I avoid putting my phone in a pocket with anything else else.
Modern gorilla glass is so good now so many owners haven't caught up, they keep these phones encased in massive cases
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That's what I keep telling to a friend who doubled the width of his S8 with a glass screen protector combined to a bold heavy case... ?
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That's what I keep telling to a friend who doubled the width of his S8 with a glass screen protector combined to a bold heavy case... [emoji57]
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I go in and out of building sites for a job and dont even do that, although I have a slim Spiggen to protect against accidental drops (I'm pretty good catching phones on my foot )
I think many people haven't caught up with how fought the latest gorilla glass is
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galaxys said:
I'm going to take mine off. I've never used them before!
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glad to see you around galaxy
No need to take it off if it's invisible, protects from unavoidable scratches and doesn't feel bad, plus it allows you to sell it for a much higher price later.
I don't see the point of this thread, that's like saying you don't enjoy sex without a condom while completely ignoring the high risk-insignificant reward side of the story.
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glad to see you around galaxy
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Hey bro, it has been a while crisscrossing the XDA boards. Hope all's well with you...
I definitely noticed the increased color vibrancy when I took off the stock screen protector. The improvement on the fingerprint scanner was quite noticeable in my case. With the stock protector, I was getting print recognition every 6 out of 10. With it off, it's pretty much recognized everyone unless I miss the spot.
Of course like many who would be paranoid about scratching the screen, I tried the Ringke Dual Easy and found it to be actually much better than the stock protector. The surface is slick to the touch and fingerprints were read just the same as the naked glass.
So yeah, in my case the stock protector did affect the accuracy of my FPS.
BTW, one of the best methods to increase read accuracy I found was to do a few scans with the lightest touch possible, essentially providing good image without too much deformity (that would be my guess), and will allow unlocking with a quick light touch.
Corv0 said:
No need to take it off if it's invisible, protects from unavoidable scratches and doesn't feel bad, plus it allows you to sell it for a much higher price later.
I don't see the point of this thread, that's like saying you don't enjoy sex without a condom while completely ignoring the high risk-insignificant reward side of the story.
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So you're telling me that thin piece of plastic is stronger and more scratch resistant than Gorilla Glass 6?
Anything that is going to actually scratch the screen is going to go through the thin piece of plastic that is applied.
If somebody wants to leave it on that is their prerogative but it is not going to stop anything that will scratch Gorilla Glass 6.
The pre-installed screen protector is the exact same material that was on the back of the phone when it came out of the box.
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So you're telling me that thin piece of plastic is stronger and more scratch resistant than Gorilla Glass 6?
Anything that is going to actually scratch the screen is going to go through the thin piece of plastic that is applied.
If somebody wants to leave it on that is their prerogative but it is not going to stop anything that will scratch Gorilla Glass 6.
The pre-installed screen protector is the exact same material that was on the back of the phone when it came out of the box.
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No, not stronger, but it won't allow scratches get to your screen and once your protector starts to degrade you can get a new one for a few coins, broke the screen because you had cold hands and it slipped? £300.
Gorilla Glass 6 is just glass, it scratches like glass at the same exact hardness, don't make a big deal about it.
The only improvements it comes with are flexibility and strength while very thin, everything else is the same as standard glass.
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No, not stronger, but it won't allow scratches get to your screen and once your protector starts to degrade you can get a new one for a few coins, broke the screen because you had cold hands and it slipped? £300.
Gorilla Glass 6 is just glass, it scratches like glass at the same exact hardness, don't make a big deal about it.
The only improvements it comes with are flexibility and strength while very thin, everything else is the same as standard glass.
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Ok first off the pre-installed "screen protector" is going to do NOTHING if you drop your phone. So if your hands are cold, your phone slips and the screen breaks it's going to happen with or without the pre-installed "screen protector". A tempered glass one might help in this situation but not the plastic film that ships on the phone.
Second, Gorilla Glass 6 does not scratch like standard glass. Glass on the Mohs hardness scale is 5-5.5 while Gorilla Glass 6 is 6.5, actually a big difference.
Now the pre-installed PET (Polyethylene terephthalate) "screen protector" has a Mohs hardness of 1, yes 1. So something with a Mohs hardness scale of 1 is protecting something that is 6.5 on the same scale? That makes ZERO sense. Any scratches you might end up seeing on it would not have scratched the actual screen.
Science is your friend.
bp328i said:
Ok first off the pre-installed "screen protector" is going to do NOTHING if you drop your phone. So if your hands are cold, your phone slips and the screen breaks it's going to happen with or without the pre-installed "screen protector". A tempered glass one might help in this situation but not the plastic film that ships on the phone.
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It's always going to offer a degree of extra protection, it's stupid to deny that, they wrapped the whole phone in the same type of plastic to keep it pristine during shipping, environmental damage doesn't always limit to drops.
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Second, Gorilla Glass 6 does not scratch like standard glass. Glass on the Mohs hardness scale is 5-5.5 while Gorilla Glass 6 is 6.5, actually a big difference.
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No. All glass scratches at 5.5-6, your £899 2019 flagship scratches just as easily as an iPhone 4.
iPhone XS Max's Gorilla glass 6 scratches at 6
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Now the pre-installed PET (Polyethylene terephthalate) "screen protector" has a Mohs hardness of 1, yes 1. So something with a Mohs hardness scale of 1 is protecting something that is 6.5 on the same scale? That makes ZERO sense. Any scratches you might end up seeing on it would not have scratched the actual screen.
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Mohs is used entirely for mineral hardness, it was never intended to applied on synthetic materials such as PET, the number 1 you gave is completely made up, if you used a Mohs' pick on it anyway it would scratch around level 3.
I suggest you to avoid using whatever you found in your 2 minutes Google/Quora search to debate this and throw me a "Science is your friend." your statements are completely unscientific and you clearly never had anything to do with this field, I don't get who you're trying to impress.
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It's always going to offer a degree of extra protection, it's stupid to deny that, they wrapped the whole phone in the same type of plastic to keep it pristine during shipping, environmental damage doesn't always limit to drops.
No. All glass scratches at 5.5-6, your £899 2019 flagship scratches just as easily as an iPhone 4.
iPhone XS Max's Gorilla glass 6 scratches at 6
Mohs is used entirely for mineral hardness, it was never intended to applied on synthetic materials such as PET, the number 1 you gave is completely made up, if you used a Mohs' pick on it anyway it would scratch around level 3.
I suggest you to avoid using whatever you found in your 2 minutes Google/Quora search to debate this and throw me a "Science is your friend." your statements are completely unscientific and you clearly never had anything to do with this field, I don't get who you're trying to impress.
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Plastic is a level one on the Mohs scale.
Get with the times modern-day smartphones screens do not scratch like they used to do your research and stop looking foolish.
And there is a difference between the hardness of standard glass and Gorilla Glass
Your response is actually comical.
Edit: Plastic is a level 3 you were correct on that. But even with that you have something of a level 3 protecting something that's a level 6.5. Again that makes no sense.
But the first minute of this video will tell you everything you need to know about your pre-installed screen protector.
Like I said originally if somebody wants to leave it on there it's their prerogative.
Wow that escalated fast
Anyway, the phone is s joy to use without the screen protector, enjoying everything Samsung has designed .
I recommend owners try it .
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How good is Gorilla Glass Victus glass? Will it still need a Screen protector? The curved edges make my hesitant about using a screen protector.
Thoughts?
I looked at JerryRigEverything's videos on the S20 Ultra and S21 Ultra (or Gorilla Glass 6 vs Victus)
It seemed that it scratched just the same. I also saw an article where the Corning person admitted that it'll still get scratched by sand, dust, coins, and keys in your pocket.
That said, I haven't decided what I want to do yet. I love tempered glass protectors but they're usually terrible on curved screens and I hate the plastic feeling ones.
It's still a 6/7 on mohs scale.
The only difference is that Victus is slightly more durable, meaning it can endure a bit more force/pressure (newton), something like 8 instead of 5. So your phone will still break and scratch, but it requires a bit more effort to damage it.
Of course it won't help you with sand or anything solid that might make a dent with little amount of effort/pressure.
I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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Every time I've tried that, the screen gets scratched. All the way up to iPhone 12 pro max.
goddammit said:
I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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I wish it was this easy in desert climates. Even with shaking out my pockets regularly, a stray piece of sand always manages to find its way to my screens within the first couple months.
FWIW I had the S21 Ultra before this (also using Victus) and it managed to get scratched. Nothing deep, but it was noticeable in sunlight. I'm planning on keeping the Pixel for a good while, so I actually picked up a TPU screen protector for it.
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I wish it was this easy in desert climates. Even with shaking out my pockets regularly, a stray piece of sand always manages to find its way to my screens within the first couple months.
FWIW I had the S21 Ultra before this (also using Victus) and it managed to get scratched. Nothing deep, but it was noticeable in sunlight. I'm planning on keeping the Pixel for a good while, so I actually picked up a TPU screen protector for it.
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At this point there is no such screen protector that doesn't degrade usability of this phone. Curved screen AND the damn on-screen fingerprint reader made sure of that. It's down to everyone's personal philosophy, but in my view the phone should serve me, not the other way around.
For what it's worth, even without screen protectors I didn't have any visible scratches on my Pixel 2 XL or 4 XL, after 2 years of usage each, so I'm gonna risk it this time too.
After 6 days I have the first scratch in the display. The device was always carried isolated in a cargo pocket. I will probably send it back.
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At this point there is no such screen protector that doesn't degrade usability of this phone. Curved screen AND the damn on-screen fingerprint reader made sure of that.
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And that's just... completely untrue. I'm using a TPU based protector, fingerprint works 100%, every damn time. When the UV based protectors come out, they'll work 100%, every time. Optical protectors are a LOT easier to use with screen protectors.
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And that's just... completely untrue. I'm using a TPU based protector, fingerprint works 100%, every damn time. When the UV based protectors come out, they'll work 100%, every time. Optical protectors are a LOT easier to use with screen protectors.
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Likewise. Using Armorsuit plastic screen protector and 100% fingerprint function (and it's fast!)
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Sand will scratch any type of glass. I had a old S4 that was nearing the end of it's service life.
It had no scratches after over 3 years and bare glass feels better so... within 3-4 months with no protector it had 3 easily visible scratches. In spite of keeping it as clean as possible using a microfiber cloth for cleaning.
Unprotected glass will get scratched...
I always put screen protectors on my phones until I got the Essential Phone. No tempered glass screen protectors would work on it, and I did not like the alternatives. I decided to go without one and just "try" to be careful. It did not take long before I had a lot of tiny scratches all over my screen. When I got a deep scratch on my PH-1, I went back to the TPU wet apply screen protector that I did not like, but it is better than the alternative. I did not use my Pixel 6 Pro as my daily driver until my screen protector arrived the next day. I have to say that the TPU screen protector I purchased is much better than the one I used for my PH-1. Very pleased with it. I think the brand is IMBZBK or something like that. I have never heard of it before, and only got it until I could get a brand name protector. I may continue using it until it gives me trouble. I highly recommend a screen protector on your Pixel 6!
blackhawk said:
Sand will scratch any type of glass. I had a old S4 that was nearing the end of it's service life.
It had no scratches after over 3 years and bare glass feels better so... within 3-4 months with no protector it had 3 easily visible scratches. In spite of keeping it as clean as possible using a microfiber cloth for cleaning.
Unprotected glass will get scratched...
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Modern phones displays can withstand a 6-7 on Mohs scale.
Sand is a 7.
Hardened steel is, by the way, 7-8.
Aluminium is, by the way, 2.5-3. Only because it's mixed with other metals & refined can it withstand some of the everyday life abuse. It's still **** compared to hardened steel. It's a shame that only Apple uses stainless steel with their IPhones. I would love to have a Pixel with stainless steel. The few grams I don't care about, give me the durability...
Morgrain said:
Modern phones displays can withstand a 6-7 on Mohs scale.
Sand is a 7.
Hardened steel is, by the way, 7-8.
Aluminium is, by the way, 2.5-3. Only because it's mixed with other metals & refined can it withstand some of the everyday life abuse. It's still **** compared to hardened steel. It's a shame that only Apple uses stainless steel with their IPhones. I would love to have a Pixel with stainless steel. The few grams I don't care about, give me the durability...
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Yeah?
Sand will still scratch it... it's easy to test
I notice Corning isn't bragging about its hardness.
Optical sapphire is 9. Apple toyed with u$ing it.
blackhawk said:
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Sand will still scratch it... it's easy to test
I notice Corning isn't bragging about its hardness.
Optical sapphire is 9. Apple toyed with u$ing it.
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Apples Sapphire is sh*t. It's fake. They only use a partial sapphire screen, which means that it's hardness is still a 6-7.
I think HTC's sapphire U Ultra is the only phone/smart device to date with a decent ("real") Sapphire screen. Other than that you will only find expensive watches with a pure Sapphire screen.
Morgrain said:
Apples Sapphire is sh*t. It's fake. They only use a partial sapphire screen, which means that it's hardness is still a 6-7.
I think HTC's sapphire U Ultra is the only phone/smart device to date with a decent ("real") Sapphire screen. Other than that you will only find expensive watches with a pure Sapphire screen.
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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I can only repeat myself: Apples implementation of Sapphire on their apple watches & on the backside of devices (camera lense protection) is fake. It was tested all day long on Youtube by people using Mohs picks, it scratched at 6 and 7, which means that it's only Sapphire in name. There is no optical "sapphire" used by Apple, it's a fancy marketing word and only that.
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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I always watch out for meteor showers...
Yeah as said before marketing nonsense. I think the saphire would shatter too easy if they needed to get it that thin for weight control

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