What does everyone think of Linux on Dex? Is it very useful? What kind of stuff do you use it for? I just got my Tab S4 and Linux on Dex is one of the things that picqued my interest in the device.
I would love to see more Linux development for the app. There is nothing I can think of off the top of my head that I would do with Ubuntu that I haven't been able to do sufficiently in Android 8.1. I am a massive fan of GNU/Linux but Ubuntu is my least favorite flavor lol and running it within android doesn't interest me. That is my personal feeling and maybe not helpful to anyone to share... But nonetheless true. I wonder what would happen if you tried to build Arch, and what this may do to reinvigorate Linux's integration of touch screen & tablet hardware. Watching this thread.
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Now i don't know as much as I would like in the programing world but i do know that ubuntu 12.04 has better arm support an they do have a build for tegra ac100/dynabook but thats as far as my knowledge goes.
Of all the operating systems out there the one i think of being almost as flexible as android is linux an ubuntu itself has always been very friendly to use (use 12.04 on my minecraft server) anyways if anyone can add some info of why it can or can't be done that be helpful to say the least though i have a feeling nvidia may not released source code for our branch of tegra 2 >.>
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I love its design,but I know windows RT does not support X86 apps. This is my concern.Compared to app store, windows market sucks.I recently learnt that there is a way to root windows RT and make it launch x86 apps. Did anyone try? Can I launch full version chrome or XBMC on rooted windows RT?
Alexsandra said:
Hey guys
I love its design,but I know windows RT does not support X86 apps. This is my concern.Compared to app store, windows market sucks.I recently learnt that there is a way to root windows RT and make it launch x86 apps. Did anyone try? Can I launch full version chrome or XBMC on rooted windows RT?
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First of all, this belongs in Surface General, not RT development. Secondly, there is a thread where you can see what apps have been tried, and how they worked (don't expect much at all right now): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934 also realize that development is ongoing. There is also a thread for native app ports: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
I personally recommend the Surface very much if you are a student (Office is preloaded) and don't NEED to run any desktop apps, like Photoshop. Go for it!
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First of all, this belongs in Surface General, not RT development. Secondly, there is a thread where you can see what apps have been tried, and how they worked (don't expect much at all right now): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934 also realize that development is ongoing. There is also a thread for native app ports: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
I personally recommend the Surface very much if you are a student (Office is preloaded) and don't NEED to run any desktop apps, like Photoshop. Go for it!
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Thanks. I am not a student. I just want to try a new style stuff. I own a iPad2,but you know it doesn't work like a real laptop.
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Did anyone try? Can I launch full version chrome or XBMC on rooted windows RT?
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Estimated x86 performance is about 0.1Ghz. Microsoft DOS era basically. So no, chrome and XBMC will not work via x86 emulation. Notepad or something along the lines of the original doom *may* work.
The jailbreak does not allow running of x86 programs. It allows running on 3rd party applications on the desktop of which just one is an x86 emulator.
Your best hope is for chromium (open source builds of chrome) or XBMC to be ported to RT natively. Chromium is definitely being worked on but has a huge list of dependencies and is an incredibly complicated piece of software believe it or not. XBMC I honestly have no idea if anyone is working on that, it also has a horrific list of dependancies I think.
x86 emulation on RT is awesome but your best bet is for people to release native ARM builds for applications and they will be far and few in between. If you dont want to wait for that then look at an intel atom powered tablet running full windows 8.
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Estimated x86 performance is about 0.1Ghz. Microsoft DOS era basically. So no, chrome and XBMC will not work via x86 emulation. Notepad or something along the lines of the original doom *may* work.
The jailbreak does not allow running of x86 programs. It allows running on 3rd party applications on the desktop of which just one is an x86 emulator.
Your best hope is for chromium (open source builds of chrome) or XBMC to be ported to RT natively. Chromium is definitely being worked on but has a huge list of dependencies and is an incredibly complicated piece of software believe it or not. XBMC I honestly have no idea if anyone is working on that, it also has a horrific list of dependancies I think.
x86 emulation on RT is awesome but your best bet is for people to release native ARM builds for applications and they will be far and few in between. If you dont want to wait for that then look at an intel atom powered tablet running full windows 8.
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Or go with a Surface Pro and you can have everything you want
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Your best hope is for chromium (open source builds of chrome) or XBMC to be ported to RT natively. Chromium is definitely being worked on but has a huge list of dependencies and is an incredibly complicated piece of software believe it or not. XBMC I honestly have no idea if anyone is working on that, it also has a horrific list of dependancies I think.
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XBMC requires a number of libraries that only build with GCC.
forget about it
I have already given up RT device after I read your replies. It looks like that Surface pro is my best option,but it doesnt have slim body and long-lasting battery(compared to iPad,it sucks). I dont think of any atom device due to its poor performance. Hoping one day surface pro could be a amazing device that owns slim body and long-lasting battery and high performance.
Atom CPUs will generally perform similarly or slightly better than ARM ones (iPads, incidentally, use ARM, as does Windows RT). I believe there are benchmarks that you can use to compare the performance of different tablets, including the iPad and various Atom models, if performance is such a concern to you.
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I have already given up RT device after I read your replies. It looks like that Surface pro is my best option,but it doesnt have slim body and long-lasting battery(compared to iPad,it sucks). I dont think of any atom device due to its poor performance. Hoping one day surface pro could be a amazing device that owns slim body and long-lasting battery and high performance.
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You could definitely go with an atom device. They will have enough power for everyday tasks (unless you use something like PhotoShop). Also I've seen videos and benchmarks, and it boots faster, and runs at about equivalent speed as Windows RT. Good luck in your search! :fingers-crossed: Oh, and the best thing you could do is walk into a Microsoft store and try everything out! :good:
Even the cedar trail atoms seem pretty competitive performance wise with my 5 year old laptop (which does get the usual disk cleanups, defrags and removal of any bloat I find etc). Let alone the clover trails in these windows 8 tablets. Took my laptop round a mates to compare with his netbook, found that the cedar trail was universally slower which was obvious but by surprisingly negligible amounts. Minecraft had a 2fps difference, Visual studio for the same solution file took 0.2 seconds longer to compile, boot times were identical, time to load a 5000 character open office document (same one of course) in libre office was immeasurably different.
1.6ghz dual core with hyper threading and 2gb of RAM vs a 2ghz intel celeron single core without any hyperthreading and 3gb of RAM (well, Its registered in windows as not having hyperthreading, there isnt a bios option for it either). Both were of course using the normal intel integrated graphics.
Honestly, people say that the atom is slow, celeron must also be slow (which it probably is, mine is 5 years old and was hardly cutting edge at the time).
Personally I am looking at getting an intel atom powered device, unless someone manages to release an i5 device with a decent battery at a low price which they won't, besides, I dont need that boost in power. Everything that does need that much power I can do on my desktop.
I think it would be cool to run other operating systems besides Android on my phone. I know that such a task as porting an OS takes a lot of work, I was just curious as to what others thought, and to pique interest if anyone sees demand and wants to make this a reality. I would love to run a GNU/Linux OS such as Jolla Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch on my phone
Any chance to port Linux4Tegra or other Linux distro w/ graphic acceleration to Pixel C?
I'm considering to buy a Linux-oriented tablet and noticed that NVIDIA Shield Tablet K1 had got Linux4Tegra R23.1 ported already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...unning-ubuntu-natively-shield-tablet-t2985238
but since Pixel C has a more horsepower TX1 SoC and "Chrome OS gene" built in, I suppose it would be potentially a better choice?
This would probably work but the booting of it may be a little difficult since the Pixel uses CoreBoot/DepthCharge. I've been trying to get chroot linux to work but it refuses to mount the raw image for some reason. If we could get MultiROM working on this, along with native Tegra-optimized Linux and Android, that would be bad ass!
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some people have gotten gnu/linux working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/installed-arm-linux-distro-arch-linux-t3271651
but my question is whether one of these distros like Debian will be able to take advantage of the Tegra, because I much prefer using Fedora than a special distro just for tegra
This project is great !
Title says it all. It would be a great way to inject more life and cool factor into our beloved tabs!
I agree!
I also concur
Would be amazing.
Should we start a pool? I'd be willing to contribute $30
I like the 3:2 ratio so I'm not going to get an s4
pacorola said:
Title says it all. It would be a great way to inject more life and cool factor into our beloved tabs!
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I have a Dex dock and I used to have a Galaxy S8+. Dex is not useful, and it’s less useful if you have a tablet.
Android still doesn’t have a decent tablet mode, and as you can see from the Pixel Touch, running Android apps in a desktop-like environment doesn’t work well.
Many companies have tried to make Android run as a desktop-like OS, and it just isn’t designed for it.
All I want is full desktop Chrome and Multi window
Xero3g said:
All I want is full desktop Chrome and Multi window
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Desktop Chrome runs like a dog on desktop processors with tons of RAM, why would you want it on a tablet? That's a terrible idea.
dragon_76 said:
Desktop Chrome runs like a dog on desktop processors with tons of RAM, why would you want it on a tablet? That's a terrible idea.
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Seems to run perfectly fine on Chromebooks
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Seems to run perfectly fine on Chromebooks
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If the only thing you are running is the browser, and nothing else (including background tasks), then it runs OK. But Chromebooks aren't selling. So...
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If the only thing you are running is the browser, and nothing else (including background tasks), then it runs OK. But Chromebooks aren't selling. So...
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Just bought a Chromebook. Same m3 processor as my surface pro 4. Runs chrome, Android, Linux, and chrome apps simultaneously just fine. Better in some cases than my surface book 2.
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Just bought a Chromebook. Same m3 processor as my surface pro 4. Runs chrome, Android, Linux, and chrome apps simultaneously just fine. Better in some cases than my surface book 2.
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I have a Dell Inspiron 14 and while I like it for just goofing around on the net, it's app support is pretty limited.
First, Linux only runs on certain Chromebooks and that will not be changing because Google uses ancient versions of the Linux kernel. So unless you have a newer Chromebook, no Linux.
Second, there's no way for Linux or Android apps to access USB or the SD card, and there's no hardware graphics acceleration for them. While that might be changing soon, it's not currently in 72. That's a big deal when most Chromebooks top out at 32GB-64GB of storage and they already have anemic processors for graphics.
Lastly, if a Linux or Android app crashes, it brings the entire system down. It's like running macOS Classic.
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I have a Dell Inspiron 14 and while I like it for just goofing around on the net, it's app support is pretty limited.
First, Linux only runs on certain Chromebooks and that will not be changing because Google uses ancient versions of the Linux kernel. So unless you have a newer Chromebook, no Linux.
Second, there's no way for Linux or Android apps to access USB or the SD card, and there's no hardware graphics acceleration for them. While that might be changing soon, it's not currently in 72. That's a big deal when most Chromebooks top out at 32GB-64GB of storage and they already have anemic processors for graphics.
Lastly, if a Linux or Android app crashes, it brings the entire system down. It's like running macOS Classic.
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Worked fine for my use case, light and capable travel laptop that I can use for work when I need to. Much as I enjoy it, my surface book 2 is too much to carry across three countries for a month. Didn't have and space issues (though I have multiple 400gb mSD cards). The Chromebook did fine and really I suppose if I needed to do more serious work I could just dual boot Linux itself. I have been wanting to try out Deepin...