Okay,
So as known there are already dev's working toward WP7 on a HD2.
This got me wondering as a Galaxy S owner,
could we port WP7 to a Galaxy S
- I know this has already been asked BUT, When people say no I don't think they've really thought about it
I mean there's like 2 samsung WP7 handsets, the Catus is extremely similar to the Galaxy S, in terms of hardware they're most likely identical... so surely there would be no need to write new drivers/ or there would be minimal work needed on drivers.
Obviously I'm not a Dev, but I do have a basic understanding of programming and computers ect.
Just thought i'd put it out there...
Look forward to any replies
The Galaxy S is running a Samsung platform called Hummingbird, while the Foscus and Omnia 7 is running Snapdragon, like all other WP7 headsets. Right there we have a pretty major problem with drivers.
ahh, hadn't seen that
i just presumed that the samsungs would be running hummingbird and then the WP7 OS would be running different drivers to account for that.
However- surelyy if the WP7 OS is written anyway like Windows is written it would be "possible".
And structurally is there much of a difference between Hummingbird and snapdragon processors, I only ask as Hackintosh machines have been built to run AMD processors which are not intel (Obviously there is a difference between Hackintoshes and small handsets).
So apart from that small (huge most likely fatal difference) is there anything else that is massively difference is that driver(s) then once the HD2mod os is done then the drivers could be worked on - i'd be up for development and testing...
Also the phone will be missing the firmware that WP7 uses to authenticate with Marketplace and other Microsoft services, just like the HD2 will.
So, it will be a Glorified Featurephone, just like the HD2.
Not to mention the driver issue mentioned upthread.
And no, you cannot compare a Hackintosh to smartphones.
firmware used to authenticate with the marketplace and other microsoft services could surely be modified or emulated ?
Yeah I mean the Hackintosh/AMD was the only one that springs to mind but I'm sure theres other examples where a driver has been written or modified to run a processor on an OS that the hardware wasn't built for..
Or perhaps running a layer of emulation between two processor drivers ? (i'm probably speaking complete crap but if we got a bootable kernel then worked it then sat in an emulation layer above the actual hummingbird drivers and hardware ?
Who will write the hummingbird drivers from scratch?
Good luck emulating that stuff, BTW.
You still have to have a valid certificate (or whatever it is) for the phone to authenticate with Microsoft's servers, the same way you have to have a Genuine Windows License when Windows Genuine Advantage checks (can use a fake one to install, but when it checks it won't pass).
Now that I've thought about it a bit, I guess you can compare it to hackintoshes. Since it takes many hacks to get them onto non-WP7 devices with the same or similar hardware, and it will be crippled without Microsoft's "dongle" in the device
Okay Okay,
so I guess pretty unlikely to be able to do haha
I might have a look to see if I can get hold of the drivers and open them up look at differences, Ideally we need a hummingbird on android but that's very unlikely because as fore-mentioned it's a Samsung only android processor. A snapdragon on android would kinda help as then you'd have two comparable device drivers, but they'd be in the wrong coding for WP7...
meh, I give up for now.
but thanks for answering my question anyway
Hello,
Is there a good source for technical information about WP7 internals/design, like for example how the UI was engineered, how they do multitasking on the snapdragon CPU?
What I mean is, I'm looking for the kind of information that used to be dished out by MS during Vista development on sites like channel9.msdn.com where they told us about how they implemented stuff like a brand new networking stack, the AERO Glass UI, finer grained kernel locking and what not.
I'd like to know about stuff for WP7 like how they achieve the smooth UI with 2D/3D animations, techniques like state machines/whatever, separate UI threads, what developer tools they use to build the OS, and so on...
It was nice during the Vista days with Jim Allchin, but sadly since Win7 and Steve Sinofsky (hope I got the names right) they seemed to have clammed up.
Thanks,
Vishal
Now i don't know as much as I would like in the programing world but i do know that ubuntu 12.04 has better arm support an they do have a build for tegra ac100/dynabook but thats as far as my knowledge goes.
Of all the operating systems out there the one i think of being almost as flexible as android is linux an ubuntu itself has always been very friendly to use (use 12.04 on my minecraft server) anyways if anyone can add some info of why it can or can't be done that be helpful to say the least though i have a feeling nvidia may not released source code for our branch of tegra 2 >.>
Any chance to port Linux4Tegra or other Linux distro w/ graphic acceleration to Pixel C?
I'm considering to buy a Linux-oriented tablet and noticed that NVIDIA Shield Tablet K1 had got Linux4Tegra R23.1 ported already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...unning-ubuntu-natively-shield-tablet-t2985238
but since Pixel C has a more horsepower TX1 SoC and "Chrome OS gene" built in, I suppose it would be potentially a better choice?
This would probably work but the booting of it may be a little difficult since the Pixel uses CoreBoot/DepthCharge. I've been trying to get chroot linux to work but it refuses to mount the raw image for some reason. If we could get MultiROM working on this, along with native Tegra-optimized Linux and Android, that would be bad ass!
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some people have gotten gnu/linux working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/installed-arm-linux-distro-arch-linux-t3271651
but my question is whether one of these distros like Debian will be able to take advantage of the Tegra, because I much prefer using Fedora than a special distro just for tegra
This project is great !
What does everyone think of Linux on Dex? Is it very useful? What kind of stuff do you use it for? I just got my Tab S4 and Linux on Dex is one of the things that picqued my interest in the device.
I would love to see more Linux development for the app. There is nothing I can think of off the top of my head that I would do with Ubuntu that I haven't been able to do sufficiently in Android 8.1. I am a massive fan of GNU/Linux but Ubuntu is my least favorite flavor lol and running it within android doesn't interest me. That is my personal feeling and maybe not helpful to anyone to share... But nonetheless true. I wonder what would happen if you tried to build Arch, and what this may do to reinvigorate Linux's integration of touch screen & tablet hardware. Watching this thread.