I have my old Moto G5 ( Cedric ) XT1675
which was on Android 7 Nougat
To cut down on apps I didn't need I would use TWRP's file manager to remove/delete apps I didn't use ( but could be downloaded from the play store if needed ) from /system/app /system/priv-app
I fresh installed the 8.1 Oreo firmware but now for some reason any app I try to remove/delete from /system/app or /system/priv-app stays installed and still works perfectly, I have no idea why this is
Usually on any device I can uninstall any updates to a pre-installed app then remove the app from /system/app or /system/priv-app so i don't know if Motorola has changed something with the 8.1 firmware or if I am missing something.
Any help would be appreciated - Thanks Ryan
Livi-Tech said:
I have my old Moto G5 ( Cedric ) XT1675
which was on Android 7 Nougat
To cut down on apps I didn't need I would use TWRP's file manager to remove/delete apps I didn't use ( but could be downloaded from the play store if needed ) from /system/app /system/priv-app
I fresh installed the 8.1 Oreo firmware but now for some reason any app I try to remove/delete from /system/app or /system/priv-app stays installed and still works perfectly, I have no idea why this is
Usually on any device I can uninstall any updates to a pre-installed app then remove the app from /system/app or /system/priv-app so i don't know if Motorola has changed something with the 8.1 firmware or if I am missing something.
Any help would be appreciated - Thanks Ryan
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I experienced something similar when I was uninstalling all apps I don't need after rooting my phone.
Normal system apps worked fine uninstalling (used sdmaid)
But when I tried to uninstall things like motorola.bug2go or brapps (motorola.brapps), my account, my benefits, mybells etc it didn't work, neither with uninstaller nor deleting in system/apps folder. Most of them are disabled by standard but we'll.. why should I need an app I never heard from and which is even disabled in original ROM?
G5-User7080 said:
I experienced something similar when I was uninstalling all apps I don't need after rooting my phone.
Normal system apps worked fine uninstalling (used sdmaid)
But when I tried to uninstall things like motorola.bug2go or brapps (motorola.brapps), my account, my benefits, mybells etc it didn't work, neither with uninstaller nor deleting in system/apps folder. Most of them are disabled by standard but we'll.. why should I need an app I never heard from and which is even disabled in original ROM?
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Even with system as read write and deleting for example Contacts ( or any app that won't update via play store ) the app is still somehow installed and working fine
did a TWRP backup to confirm apps weren't pretending to get erased and the apps i removed weren't there so the apps are being removed
Tried formatting data ( apps removed from system are still there )
It's odd I have never seen this happen before
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search for the protected app issue. here is my modified build.prop for jm5 firmware with jf3 signature.. make sure you put back in system and reset permissions (i use root explorer) need to be rooted. and be carefull and double check b4 rebooting or you will be reflashing.
this only gets paid/protected apps in countries that allow paid apps.
for others there are other known solutions (search)
the other file is the unmodified jm5 build.pop
Didn't work for me even after wiping cache.
stop giving unproper files, package an update.zip
Didn't work for me neither.
I just used the Eris Market Fix from Android Market and it worked like a charm
i mean is there a benefit to doing it over the data part? only diff i'm aware of is that (in this case, street view) putting an app in the system bit means i can't update it and as i can't get adb working on my PC, then i have to :
backup all my apps, barr those in system, flash a new rom (but remove the apks from the zip file), then reinstall all apps again
i need google street view and since adb doesnt work, this is the only way that i know of how to do this.
They're put on /system/app as that's where they originally live...if it's an app from the Market it will update itself correctly
It's also a space thing as if they were all on /data/app then you'd eat up your space in no time (unless using A2SD)
umm, ok stupid queston, why is it then no matter whose rom i try (here or modaco), if an app is on /system it is never updated? i *always* get an error during installation
few weeks back, it was google maps, now it's the updated street view.
i've flashed a new rom now but removed street.apk from the zip and can now install just fine, and can update as needs be.
I dunno, I'm stock and just today had Flash and Maps update automatically
If your system apps won't update there's something wrong with your custom ROM.
it wouldn't just be me then though?
i'm using leedroids latest and that's not updating, same with opendesire earlier on, modaco ones etc etc
Are you wiping before you install the ROMs? I've never had a problem updating system apps via the market in my ROM.
of course. full wipe
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of course. full wipe
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just uninstall the app and re-install it from market
You can't if its on the system partition. Updates go on the /data/ partition, though...
Other way is to get the APK in question and install it using a file manager, it'll do the same thing
uninstalling also isn't allowed, neither is updating. it seems that once it's there, it's there.
now, i've got adb working and can list what's in system etc but it gave a read only error when i was trying to 'rm Street.apk'
remount didn't appear to be a valid option. alls working now anyways. just need to remember to remove certain apks from a zip before flashing.
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You *can* update system apps with market updates, as has been said before. The app remains on the system partition and the phone uses the data version instead. If it's not working for you I don't know why, but it's absolutely fine for me.
So what we need is a mod that will give you the option of replacing the system/app with updated market version, but replaces it on system and not data.
j5m said:
So what we need is a mod that will give you the option of replacing the system/app with updated market version, but replaces it on system and not data.
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Well that's exactly what I do in mine. And I get those by updating the system app via the market.
teppic74 said:
Well that's exactly what I do in mine. And I get those by updating the system app via the market.
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Thats great for you, and i appreciate that you do that with your rom +mods, but it means relying on you. Would be good if android would have it as an inbuilt function.
But i guess with newer phones having increased internal storage + a2sd this won't be an issue for much longer.
It's never going to happen as part of standard Android, because the system partition is read only. Also the system has to be a set standard in order to allow upgrades to work.
I am trying to uninstall my system Youtube app which I have installed a modded version of and my phone will not let me. The reason I am doing this is because I want to install the new 5.0 update but the update always fails. Yes I have root permissions, Yes I have tried using root explorer in ES File Explorer, Yes I have granted SuperUser Permissions to all the apps I have tried to do it with, Yes I have tried removing the app using console emulator, Yes I have cleared the data for the Youtube app and Disabled it, Yes I have tried remounting the system partition to allow RW access but it always goes back to read only!! everything I have tried keeps giving me the error READ ONLY FILE SYSTEM! I have used Root apps before and they all worked, why when I try to do something so simple it doesnt work? I have searched around on google and havent seen anyone with the problem I'm having. If it is a problem with the modded apk then there HAS to be a way to remove, in fact as I write this I am conctacting the developer via E-Mail. Please help!
BTW this modded YouTube apk was created by theos0o and I downloaded it from this forum!
When I uninstall stock installed apps (it doenst matter which app I uninstall) and then reboot some of my user apps are instantly crashing when I try to open them (Steam, Feedly, and a few others).
When I restore a TWRP backup everything works fine. Even if I uninstall a single system app the error occours.
Has anyone experienced this before?
simon151102 said:
When I uninstall stock installed apps (it doenst matter which app I uninstall) and then reboot some of my user apps are instantly crashing when I try to open them (Steam, Feedly, and a few others).
When I restore a TWRP backup everything works fine. Even if I uninstall a single system app the error occours.
Has anyone experienced this before?
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The best way to uninstall stock apps is to use debloat. If you use anything else, I guess that may interfere with user apps, and that may be the cause. Just try to use debloat which is a magisk module that creates a terminal command that lets you uninstall systemlessly. If you have any questions, just reply!
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The best way to uninstall stock apps is to use debloat. If you use anything else, I guess that may interfere with user apps, and that may be the cause. Just try to use debloat which is a magisk module that creates a terminal command that lets you uninstall systemlessly. If you have any questions, just reply!
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How is that module called? Can you send me the name or so?
simon151102 said:
How is that module called? Can you send me the name or so?
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The module is called debloater. It's in the download section of magisk manager. You can sort it alphabetically to find it quickly. When you find it, install it, do a reboot and voila.
The module only works if you have a terminal app. If you use a lineageos based rom like I do, you can enable the app via developer options. If not, then no problem. Try to find any terminal emulator via google play. Thus, you can use it! :victory:
I'm on US998 20H.
I deleted Chome folder in /system/app/, restart and some apps couldn't run, they just crashed. These are bank apps and some apps that requires the phone's system to not be modified in order to run.
I thought it was because of the new version of Magisk Manager since I updated Magisk Manager to ver. 7.3.4 right before that.
After a couple times trying to uninstall, reinstall Magisk through TWRP (which caused my phone to not be able to boot up and I had to restore the TWRP backup many times), I tried installing Magisk but not deleting the Chrome folder, and things were back to normal.
This is weird to me because I've done this on other phones but didn't got into bootloop.
So I just wanted to warn you guys to not delete anything in /system/app or /system/priv-app in order to get rid of system apps.
minhntp said:
I'm on US998 20H.
I deleted Chome folder in /system/app/, restart and some apps couldn't run, they just crashed. These are bank apps and some apps that requires the phone's system to not be modified in order to run.
I thought it was because of the new version of Magisk Manager since I updated Magisk Manager to ver. 7.3.4 right before that.
After a couple times trying to uninstall, reinstall Magisk through TWRP (which caused my phone to not be able to boot up and I had to restore the TWRP backup many times), I tried installing Magisk but not deleting the Chrome folder, and things were back to normal.
This is weird to me because I've done this on other phones but didn't got into bootloop.
So I just wanted to warn you guys to not delete anything in /system/app or /system/priv-app in order to get rid of system apps.
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Chrome can function as "Webview Implementation" in "Developer Options". You just have to reinstall Chrome which will go into /data/app and set "webview implementation" in "Developer Options" to Chrome and it'll be fixed. A lot of apps require this to work including Gmail, Amazon, Banking apps, etc. Android System Webview is another app that can function instead of Chrome and all the variants (Chrome stable, Chrome Dev, Chrome Beta, Chrome Canary, etc.)
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Chrome can function as "Webview Implementation" in "Developer Options". You just have to reinstall Chrome which will go into /data/app and set "webview implementation" in "Developer Options" to Chrome and it'll be fixed. A lot of apps require this to work including Gmail, Amazon, Banking apps, etc. Android System Webview is another app that can function instead of Chrome and all the variants (Chrome stable, Chrome Dev, Chrome Beta, Chrome Canary, etc.)
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What if I still delete chrome, but then I enable and update Android System Webview? Will it work then?
HueyT said:
Chrome can function as "Webview Implementation" in "Developer Options". You just have to reinstall Chrome which will go into /data/app and set "webview implementation" in "Developer Options" to Chrome and it'll be fixed. A lot of apps require this to work including Gmail, Amazon, Banking apps, etc. Android System Webview is another app that can function instead of Chrome and all the variants (Chrome stable, Chrome Dev, Chrome Beta, Chrome Canary, etc.)
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Thank you so much.
I enabled and updated Android System Webview (I disabled Google Chrome before that) and switched to Android System Webview in Developer Options/WebView implementation.
I now be able to delete Chrome folder in /system/app without causing the other apps to crash.
Still feel like mentioning that: the idea to delete some files with a root file manager without having any kind of backup sounds pretty stupid to me. I hope you learned a lesson otherwise I suggest to disable root ...
minhntp said:
So I just wanted to warn you guys to not delete anything in /system/app or /system/priv-app in order to get rid of system apps.
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What do you want to achieve deleting system files? Did you want to debloat? there's someone here build debloated h932 20s. If you don't have 932 variant, the list of debloated apps might be a good start.
daniu said:
Still feel like mentioning that: the idea to delete some files with a root file manager without having any kind of backup sounds pretty stupid to me. I hope you learned a lesson otherwise I suggest to disable root ...
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It's common people frightening, after doing wrong. It even scarier when backups that we have won't help much (usualy app related to carrier, related to telephone, dialer, contact, etc still give you error after restored, and must reset the phone). Froze the app would be safer method to get rid of bloat