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Anyone know of a way to install apps by not using the Package Manager?

Hey all,
So I updated my phone to the DVD v20F ROM the other day and since then I've noticed the install button in the Android package manager doesn't work. If I select an apk, it brings up the list of permissions and the install and uninstall buttons, but only the uninstall button works. If I hit the install button nothing happens, it's like the button has no function assigned to it. Updating apps still works fine though. So does anyone know of a way to install apps to my device without using the Package Manager?
Thanks!

iDefalt said:
Hey all,
So I updated my phone to the DVD v20F ROM the other day and since then I've noticed the install button in the Android package manager doesn't work. If I select an apk, it brings up the list of permissions and the install and uninstall buttons, but only the uninstall button works. If I hit the install button nothing happens, it's like the button has no function assigned to it. Updating apps still works fine though. So does anyone know of a way to install apps to my device without using the Package Manager?
Thanks!
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There are few software witch can install application without using phone for that. Also, if you go to google store with your computer and select application to install, it will not require additional clicks on your phone. I think its best way to not install additional software and give permissions, just select applications from play store using your browser.

EmptySD said:
There are few software witch can install application without using phone for that. Also, if you go to google store with your computer and select application to install, it will not require additional clicks on your phone. I think its best way to not install additional software and give permissions, just select applications from play store using your browser.
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He wants to install apps from internal storage not play store I believe.
Try adb commands.

DelBoy said:
He wants to install apps from internal storage not play store I believe.
Try adb commands.
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In case that he want to use app's from store, i think its good solution.
Beside ABD commands, applications like MobileGo can be used. Connect with you computer and install it with double click.

DelBoy said:
He wants to install apps from internal storage not play store I believe.
Try adb commands.
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Would you happen to know the adb commands to install a specific .apk file that is stored on my internal storage?
Thanks for the help the both of you!

Copy the app to system folder and set permissions. Then reboot

Try this, it has a built in flasher. Or even flashify from play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.namelessrom.devicecontrol

Titanium Backup unable to delete system apps?

EDIT: SEE POST #8 FOR THE WORK-AROUND TO UNINSTALL SYSTEM APPS
Rooted last night and one of the first things I did was install TB so I could remove some of the system apps.
But while TB says they're removed (like Chrome & easter egg), I reboot and they're still there.
I did have latest BusyBox installed.
So I tried using TB's built-in BusyBox and had the same issue.
I also made sure to get /system_root Read/Write and still couldn't uninstall using TB.
Are we gonna have to wait for either SuperSU or TB to get an update with fixes.
Any suggestions on a way to get TB working? Other than manually removing apps via Root Explorer which I already know how to do and is not the point of this thread.

try system remove app
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Isn't current root system-less.?
Root is actually in system_root and system is not being mounted rw?
If its true you cant change anything in system until it can be switched to rw..

I've already set it to R/W using this command: mount -o rw,remount /system_root.
Didn't help. The apps are still there after rebooting.
An odd thing I noticed. Titanium is showing "Android System Webview" and "Device setup 7.1" as frozen. And I didn't do it. Anyone else noticing this?

DinarQ8 said:
try system remove app
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Just tried it. Doesn't work either.
Thanks for helping me rule out Titanium Backup specifically though.
Definitely something to do with Google's partition setup (or with root) then.

No big deal, I'll just use Root Explorer to remove the ~35 system apk's I'm trying to get rid of.
I just feel safer seeing app names rather than guessing at apk names when I'm removing stuff.
Plus, TB is just faster & more convenient. And I'm probably going to have to do this a few times over the next few weeks as I make & break my phone.
Btw, I'm a little disappointed there are a bunch of Verizon apps on my Google purchased phone.

DM-Verity, I think it is, is still active with this root. Think that's what your running into.

By the way, I found a work-around.
If you want to uninstall SYSTEM apps via Titanium Backup (or any other method), it helps to do the following first.
Open up a terminal session on your phone.
I use the free app Termux to do this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux
Then type the following two commands:
Code:
su
setenforce 0
This sets SElinux to "permissive". Then you can uninstall all your system apps. Then after you reboot, the phone automatically goes back to "enforcing" for SElinux.
Works great. Doesn't screw up any of my user apps after removing the system apps I don't want (like Chrome, Messaging, etc).
If you want permissive on a permanent basis then check out this thread.
I haven't tried it yet, don't need to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/how-to-set-selinux-to-permissive-boot-t3034245

CZ Eddie said:
By the way, I found a work-around.
If you want to uninstall SYSTEM apps via Titanium Backup (or any other method), it helps to do the following first.
Open up a terminal session on your phone.
I use the free app Termux to do this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux
Then type the following two commands:
Code:
su
setenforce 0
This sets SElinux to "permissive". Then you can uninstall all your system apps. Then after you reboot, the phone automatically goes back to "enforcing" for SElinux.
Works great. Doesn't screw up any of my user apps after removing the system apps I don't want (like Chrome, Messaging, etc).
If you want permissive on a permanent basis then check out this thread.
I haven't tried it yet, don't need to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/how-to-set-selinux-to-permissive-boot-t3034245
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I really only wanted to backup, switch chrome from a system app to a user app, and restore data but couldn't do this using TiB until I ran these commands. Thanks!!!

CZ Eddie said:
By the way, I found a work-around.
If you want to uninstall SYSTEM apps via Titanium Backup (or any other method), it helps to do the following first.
Open up a terminal session on your phone.
I use the free app Termux to do this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux
Then type the following two commands:
Code:
su
setenforce 0
This sets SElinux to "permissive". Then you can uninstall all your system apps. Then after you reboot, the phone automatically goes back to "enforcing" for SElinux.
Works great. Doesn't screw up any of my user apps after removing the system apps I don't want (like Chrome, Messaging, etc).
If you want permissive on a permanent basis then check out this thread.
I haven't tried it yet, don't need to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/how-to-set-selinux-to-permissive-boot-t3034245
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this.. worked..
i friggin love you guys here on xda... combined knowledge ftw

The workaround doesn't work for me. After reboot, selinux is back to 'enforcing' but the app still isn't Uninstalled.
However, thanks for letting me know about the apk delete method from system/app. It's the only method that works with some MIUI apps.

Yeah, setenforce 0 doesn't work for my N9100ZC (6.0.1)
What's working is, reboot into TWRP, choose Mount -> System -> Internal memory. TWRP main menu -> Advanced -> File Manager.
Make sure to delete the folder and subfolder of your bloatware (\system\app and \system\priv-app).
Hope this help

CZ Eddie said:
By the way, I found a work-around.
If you want to uninstall SYSTEM apps via Titanium Backup (or any other method), it helps to do the following first.
Open up a terminal session on your phone.
I use the free app Termux to do this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux
Then type the following two commands:
Code:
su
setenforce 0
This sets SElinux to "permissive". Then you can uninstall all your system apps. Then after you reboot, the phone automatically goes back to "enforcing" for SElinux.
Works great. Doesn't screw up any of my user apps after removing the system apps I don't want (like Chrome, Messaging, etc).
If you want permissive on a permanent basis then check out this thread.
I haven't tried it yet, don't need to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/how-to-set-selinux-to-permissive-boot-t3034245
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It seems that the workaround doesn't work anymore.
Have you find another one ?

chimmot307 said:
Yeah, setenforce 0 doesn't work for my N9100ZC (6.0.1)
What's working is, reboot into TWRP, choose Mount -> System -> Internal memory. TWRP main menu -> Advanced -> File Manager.
Make sure to delete the folder and subfolder of your bloatware (\system\app and \system\priv-app).
Hope this help
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Thanks that worked for me.

chimmot307 said:
Yeah, setenforce 0 doesn't work for my N9100ZC (6.0.1)
What's working is, reboot into TWRP, choose Mount -> System -> Internal memory. TWRP main menu -> Advanced -> File Manager.
Make sure to delete the folder and subfolder of your bloatware (\system\app and \system\priv-app).
Hope this help
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this work for me on my redmi note 8 stock rom miui 11.0.40

Yeah setenforce did not work for me too

DinarQ8 said:
try system remove app
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Atleast name the app properly

Atharkhan101 said:
Atleast name the app properly
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You ask me a question after been 5 years anyway just search in Play Store System App Remove and choose what work with you

Please don't try to delete any system app!

I'm on US998 20H.
I deleted Chome folder in /system/app/, restart and some apps couldn't run, they just crashed. These are bank apps and some apps that requires the phone's system to not be modified in order to run.
I thought it was because of the new version of Magisk Manager since I updated Magisk Manager to ver. 7.3.4 right before that.
After a couple times trying to uninstall, reinstall Magisk through TWRP (which caused my phone to not be able to boot up and I had to restore the TWRP backup many times), I tried installing Magisk but not deleting the Chrome folder, and things were back to normal.
This is weird to me because I've done this on other phones but didn't got into bootloop.
So I just wanted to warn you guys to not delete anything in /system/app or /system/priv-app in order to get rid of system apps.

minhntp said:
I'm on US998 20H.
I deleted Chome folder in /system/app/, restart and some apps couldn't run, they just crashed. These are bank apps and some apps that requires the phone's system to not be modified in order to run.
I thought it was because of the new version of Magisk Manager since I updated Magisk Manager to ver. 7.3.4 right before that.
After a couple times trying to uninstall, reinstall Magisk through TWRP (which caused my phone to not be able to boot up and I had to restore the TWRP backup many times), I tried installing Magisk but not deleting the Chrome folder, and things were back to normal.
This is weird to me because I've done this on other phones but didn't got into bootloop.
So I just wanted to warn you guys to not delete anything in /system/app or /system/priv-app in order to get rid of system apps.
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Chrome can function as "Webview Implementation" in "Developer Options". You just have to reinstall Chrome which will go into /data/app and set "webview implementation" in "Developer Options" to Chrome and it'll be fixed. A lot of apps require this to work including Gmail, Amazon, Banking apps, etc. Android System Webview is another app that can function instead of Chrome and all the variants (Chrome stable, Chrome Dev, Chrome Beta, Chrome Canary, etc.)

HueyT said:
Chrome can function as "Webview Implementation" in "Developer Options". You just have to reinstall Chrome which will go into /data/app and set "webview implementation" in "Developer Options" to Chrome and it'll be fixed. A lot of apps require this to work including Gmail, Amazon, Banking apps, etc. Android System Webview is another app that can function instead of Chrome and all the variants (Chrome stable, Chrome Dev, Chrome Beta, Chrome Canary, etc.)
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What if I still delete chrome, but then I enable and update Android System Webview? Will it work then?

HueyT said:
Chrome can function as "Webview Implementation" in "Developer Options". You just have to reinstall Chrome which will go into /data/app and set "webview implementation" in "Developer Options" to Chrome and it'll be fixed. A lot of apps require this to work including Gmail, Amazon, Banking apps, etc. Android System Webview is another app that can function instead of Chrome and all the variants (Chrome stable, Chrome Dev, Chrome Beta, Chrome Canary, etc.)
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Thank you so much.
I enabled and updated Android System Webview (I disabled Google Chrome before that) and switched to Android System Webview in Developer Options/WebView implementation.
I now be able to delete Chrome folder in /system/app without causing the other apps to crash.

Still feel like mentioning that: the idea to delete some files with a root file manager without having any kind of backup sounds pretty stupid to me. I hope you learned a lesson otherwise I suggest to disable root ...

minhntp said:
So I just wanted to warn you guys to not delete anything in /system/app or /system/priv-app in order to get rid of system apps.
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What do you want to achieve deleting system files? Did you want to debloat? there's someone here build debloated h932 20s. If you don't have 932 variant, the list of debloated apps might be a good start.
daniu said:
Still feel like mentioning that: the idea to delete some files with a root file manager without having any kind of backup sounds pretty stupid to me. I hope you learned a lesson otherwise I suggest to disable root ...
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It's common people frightening, after doing wrong. It even scarier when backups that we have won't help much (usualy app related to carrier, related to telephone, dialer, contact, etc still give you error after restored, and must reset the phone). Froze the app would be safer method to get rid of bloat

Question With Root Moving app to system app.

I have never created a thread before because I normally can find my answers by browsing. However, in this situation, I come up snake eyes each and every time. If this is the wrong place to post, I apologize. I am trying to move a GPS app to a system app. However, when I try to move it, I get an error that there is not enough space in the system ROM (/system) for this. (There is only 2.73 MB free.) I do not need much as I am only looking to move this one gps spoofing app. I have tried everything I could find to do from uninstalling system apps, etc., but no matter what I do, it stays free space 2.73 MB. Any help is most definitely appreciated as I am at a loss, and this was the only thing I rooted to do. Please help!
Edit: I forgot to say it earlier, but I am not a pro at all this so speak to me as if I were 10 yrs old. Thanks alot!

You can use lucky patcher to rebuild/install fake gps apps as system apps. Copying by hand is not gonna do the trick.
There should be plenty of tutorials out there, just search for something along the lines:
Spoof GPS Pokemon Go Luckypatcher
Beware though, that those tutorials will not have been written with Android 12 in mind; I have not yet meddled with GPS spoofing with my P6 and do not know whether Google has implemented certain mechanisms to prevent spoofing system apps. You might get into a bootloop or even softbrick your device (I'd say rather unlikely, but there's always a certain chance).

Magisk is your friend. Not very complicated. Create a module with a /system/app or priv-app directory.

foobar66 said:
Magisk is your friend. Not very complicated. Create a module with a /system/app or priv-app directory.
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He said that he is not a pro and needs everything explained like a 10 year old, you're sure that creating a magisk module isn't a tad too much to ask?
There are solutions that only require a couple clicks in a premade app interface, intuitive and easy. Going in and coding a couple lines is not my definition of 10 year old not pro stuff. I mean it's not a big deal breaker, there are plenty of tutorials to go around (topjohnwu even offers templates), but it still requires some knowhow and poses more risk.

I appreciate your help but I have already done all the recommendations. As I said, when I uninstall apps from the system ROM I gain no space. I have been using lucky patcher to move files to system apps but it says there is not enough room. This is why I asked, according to what I read, it should have worked. I don't know if I am doing it wrong , but when I try to move app to a system app, I click on it and choose tools and move to system/app in lucky. Any help to help me with this issue is really appreciated.

Install the attached version of the App Systemizer Magisk module and reboot. Open a terminal (install Termux app from Play Store if you need a terminal app), su [enter], systemize [enter] and follow the instructions.

If you are willing to share the APK, I can make a magisk module to install it as a system app.

foobar66 said:
If you are willing to share the APK, I can make a magisk module to install it as a system app.
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are you asking me for the apk?

Roll3r said:
Install the attached version of the App Systemizer Magisk module and reboot. Open a terminal (install Termux app from Play Store if you need a terminal app), su [enter], systemize [enter] and follow the instructions.
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I am unsure what I am supposed to do as the menu is not to clear?

michaelrager said:
are you asking me for the apk?
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Yes but only if you're willing to share it, send me a PM if you want ...

michaelrager said:
I am unsure what I am supposed to do as the menu is not to clear?
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At the menu, type 1 and hit enter. It'll bring up a list of all installed apps, with a number next to each one. Type in the number of the app and hit enter. It'll probably throw an error, but the app should still be systemized - I've seen seen errors since Android 11 but it's always worked

Roll3r said:
At the menu, type 1 and hit enter. It'll bring up a list of all installed apps, with a number next to each one. Type in the number of the app and hit enter. It'll probably throw an error, but the app should still be systemized - I've seen seen errors since Android 11 but it's always worked
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Thank you! I got it as a system app but for some reason when I click on the app it doesn't load and freezes. Any ideas are much obliged!

Question My banking application will not allow me to enter that I am using Whatsapp PLUS

Hi.
Today I needed to pay something through my banking application, but the application did not allow me access because it detected malicious software on my phone and it is Whatsapp PLUS, which I have to uninstall in order to enter the banking application.
What should I do now if I use Whatsapp PLUS all the time, but at the same time I need access to my banking application?
How does a banking application detect that I am using an illegal Whatsapp Plus application?
Is there a way around it?
Thanks a lot.
And for info root I have over Magisk.

This might seem trivial, but have you tried revoking the "Get info about installed apps" permission?
Most apps use this to index all your apps and check for so-called "malicious" package names.

TechieTwinToes said:
This might seem trivial, but have you tried revoking the "Get info about installed apps" permission?
Most apps use this to index all your apps and check for so-called "malicious" package names.
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What should I do?

Even if I freeze WhatsApp via titanium backup, the bank's application still notifies me that there is malicious software on my device - WhatsApp.
That I should just uninstall it.

jkmaxfli said:
What should I do?
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go to your banking app's "App Info" page, under permissions, look for "Get info about installed apps" and if it is "Allowed", change it to "Deny"
this is assuming you are on MIUI. I'm sure other ROMs also have a similar permission.

jkmaxfli said:
Even if I freeze WhatsApp via titanium backup, the bank's application still notifies me that there is malicious software on my device - WhatsApp.
That I should just uninstall it.
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What is the package name of your whatsappPlus app? You should find it in the "App Info" page for the app. Should be something like "com.whatsapp"

TechieTwinToes said:
go to your banking app's settings, under permissions, look for "Get info about installed apps" and if it is "Allowed", change it to "Deny"
this is assuming you are on MIUI. I'm sure other ROMs also have a similar permission.
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There is no such setting about allowing the installation of applications under permissions - allowed / deny

jkmaxfli said:
There is no such setting about allowing the installation of applications under permissions - allowed / deny
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In that case you either modify the app itself - use apk editor to decompile app , edit manifest.xml and remove permissions like "query all packages" from it . Compile the app and run it again. This might work but if app is protected in some way that it detects modification you might get banned from it or worse :/
Other way is to isolate WhatsApp Plus by using tools like virtual xposed - basically a virtual container. You can install WhatsApp in there and it shouldn't cause any issues but I'm not sure you'll be able to receive notifications... ( You can try installing bank app in there instead but I'm not sure how that'll work... Either it will detect root/xposed or the container itself will allow querry all packages to seep through into main os - this depends on whether virtualxposed has declared permission for querying packages or not )
Third option is probably the best one - Uninstall and use web browser to access banking.

maybe whatsapp plus is indeed malicious
use malwarebytes for android to check whether whatsapp plus is malicious or not