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I'm wondering if any of you got a Galaxy note 2 after owning a At&t HOX and was hoping you could tell me the battery life, performance, camera and if you have anything you like about the HOX over the Note 2.
I played on one at the At&t store (The S-pen was great!) but IMO nothing beats hearing other people's experience when they've had it for a while.
Thanks and sorry if this is in the wrong forum.
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I'm wondering if any of you got a Galaxy note 2 after owning a At&t HOX and was hoping you could tell me the battery life, performance, camera and if you have anything you like about the HOX over the Note 2.
I played on one at the At&t store (The S-pen was great!) but IMO nothing beats hearing other people's experience when they've had it for a while.
Thanks and sorry if this is in the wrong forum.
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Yep...I came from the att One X and could not be happier. I originally ordered the Nexus 4, but that was backordered so I canceled and went with the Note 2. After looking at the Nexus 4 forums, I feel I dodged a bullet as that phone would have been a rather large step backwards from the One X and in my opinion an even bigger step back from my current Note 2. As far as battery life...I was getting between 4 and 5.5 hrs screen on time with the One X using primarily WiFi during the day. Total time in battery was usually around 14-17 hrs...but I charged every night, so anything more than 12-14 was fine for me. As far as the Note 2, the most screen on time I have got so far is 9.5 hrs with 26 hrs of total time on. There really is no comparison between the two when it comes to battery. The Note 2 really is more in the league of a tablet as far as the battery goes. The ONLY thing I can say was nicer on the One X than my N2 is the whites on the screen...every other color looks better to my eyes on the N2...especially blacks (although blacks looked good on the One X too). Another big advantage of the N2 (besides the battery and s pen) is the sound (both speaker and in call speaker). Both are quite a bit louder on the N2, while still being nice and clear. Even though the PPI on the N2 is lower than the One X, that has not bothered me one bit...as I have yet to see any pixels on the N2...text is as clear to me on this phone as it was on my One X, PLUS I get to see so much more at once
I hope this helped you out a little bit. In would definitely not hesitate to make the jump if I were you. Feel free if you have anymore questions.
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Yep...I came from the att One X and could not be happier. I originally ordered the Nexus 4, but that was backordered so I canceled and went with the Note 2. After looking at the Nexus 4 forums, I feel I dodged a bullet as that phone would have been a rather large step backwards from the One X and in my opinion an even bigger step back from my current Note 2. As far as battery life...I was getting between 4 and 5.5 hrs screen on time with the One X using primarily WiFi during the day. Total time in battery was usually around 14-17 hrs...but I charged every night, so anything more than 12-14 was fine for me. As far as the Note 2, the most screen on time I have got so far is 9.5 hrs with 26 hrs of total time on. There really is no comparison between the two when it comes to battery. The Note 2 really is more in the league of a tablet as far as the battery goes. The ONLY thing I can say was nicer on the One X than my N2 is the whites on the screen...every other color looks better to my eyes on the N2...especially blacks (although blacks looked good on the One X too). Another big advantage of the N2 (besides the battery and s pen) is the sound (both speaker and in call speaker). Both are quite a bit louder on the N2, while still being nice and clear. Even though the PPI on the N2 is lower than the One X, that has not bothered me one bit...as I have yet to see any pixels on the N2...text is as clear to me on this phone as it was on my One X, PLUS I get to see so much more at once
I hope this helped you out a little bit. In would definitely not hesitate to make the jump if I were you. Feel free if you have anymore questions.
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Thanks! One more question, do you use a case/screen protector and what would you recommend. I don't like cases but as big as this screen is I'd imagine it'd break easily. Now all I got to do it get the money (which assuming I can sell my tablet shouldn't be to hard)
I just put the Zagg Invisible Shield HD on the front of mine and the xtreme guard on the back. The Zagg is well made, covers right to the edge of the screen and is very smooth, so the s pen works without catching the protector. The xtremeguard on the back is a good/cheap alternative, but it's just too sticky for the s pen...that's why I used it for just the backside. I think the Zagg was like $25 from best buy (front only) and the xtremeguard was $4 (front and back) on eBay.
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... As far as the Note 2, the most screen on time I have got so far is 9.5 hrs with 26 hrs of total time on. There really is no comparison between the two when it comes to battery... Another big advantage of the N2 (besides the battery and s pen) is the sound (both speaker and in call speaker). Both are quite a bit louder on the N2, while still being nice and clear...
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powerwagon's statements above are consistent with my experience as well. i'm using the GN2 mainly for work and an SGS3 for personal use. based on my hearing, the in-call voice quality and loudness of the Samsungs is noticeably better compared to the HOXL. (Samsung even has a button on the call screen that allows you to boost in-call volume if necessary). it's a bit unfair to compare the performance of the HOXL's 1800 mAh battery to the GN2's (swappable) 3100 mAh monster. nonetheless, i can easily get through a 16-hour workday with battery life to spare, e.g., 30-40% battery left. i'm averaging 4-6 hours screen time, 90 minutes call time, 80-120 emails (for 3 exchange accounts, all set to push), about 30 minutes web surfing and 30-50 texts. i don't have any games on my GN2. i'm using a zagg HD screen protector and an inexpensive 0.3mm TPU-type case to cover my phone. (See pics below)
the biggest adjustment is getting used to the GN2's size; i returned the first GN2 i had because i thought it was too big. i was fortunate enough to have a second chance to use the phone and have not looked back since then.
now, after saying all that, the HOXL is still a good phone and is worthy of keeping as a main/alternate device if desired. i'm debating whether or not to sell mine.
That's a good looking case! Is it hard or just a slip on rubber case?
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That's a good looking case! Is it hard or just a slip on rubber case?
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It's a semi-hard slip on case. Got 3 of them on ebay for 7 bucks.
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i'm debating whether or not to sell mine.
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Came from it. Love my GN2 and sold my One X
hope this helps.
I had a One X. I don't miss it at all for a few reasons. First, it replaced my wife's iPhone 4 (sold that for $200, got AT&T to price match Note for $200, so it was like an exchange), and secondly I was never really happy with it. Either I over excited myself for it, or I am really a Samsung fan boy unconsciously. I had a GS II, got doa replacements, and AT&T wouldn't let me early upgrade until October, but they let me get a One X free. The first thing that happened was a deep scratch within 48 hours with no explination, then a series of dead pixels. I relied on my microSD card more than I thought. The power button bugged me being on top. Then I went to load a custom ROM... Boy was I missing my GS II those 4 hours learning ADB. The CM/AOKP were poor battery life and buggy, and ViperXL still can't multi-task. It ended up being a laundry list of "minor" irks. Nothing big enough on its own.
I forgot about the early upgrade offer until I caught a YouTube video of the Note II's multi view. It was like my life went into slow motion. Within 30 minutes I confirmed I could early upgrade but, could not pre-order. I had to wait until the 9th, then they sent my phone on the slow boat from china and "overnight" turned into a week.
I can tell the screen is less bright when I put the two next to each other. When they are apart I can't discern a difference in the screens. Performance is night and day. I can multi-task again. I popped back in my MicroSD card. I can reach the power button, and unlock my phone easily one handed. The notification LED can be seen at all angles, and is RGB. The power port is on the bottom again, and the right side up. I honestly feel like this phone is more solid. The One X screen had give, it didn't feel like it was in all the way. I laughed at people that said they wanted the Note, way too big I told them. It only took a day or two to get used to, it doesn't feel big anymore. And when I grab the One X it feels so small. An iPhone feels like my toddlers phone, or the phone from Zoolander.
I really like the S-Pen, and use it almost every time I use the phone. The battery life is way better. I was barely getting through a day on a single charge on the One X ~ 3-4 hours screen time. I get 6+ on the Note most days. No need for a charger in the car, or at work anymore. Plus with the stock 2A charger it feels like it charges faster than the One X did.
I don't regret the jump at all, and if I had to go back I would sell the One X for a GS III. I just couldn't go back to Sense or buggy AOSP. I really like the TouchWiz on the GS III and Note II. Its not just the S-Pen stuff, its the stuff that I use constantly like Smart Stay, Smart Alert, etc. I also like using MHL, especially if I can download content to the MicroSD, and skip the computer all together. Every day I find I like the look and feel of the phone more. I have the titanium grey, and love the faux brushed metal. I know its plastic, some say it feels cheap, I say it feels durable. Like the S II that took a serious amount of abuse, naked. The One X looks like its been through a rock tumbler when you get it in direct sunlight.
I am going to go with the official Samsung black TPU case. Its $30 from Samsung, if you register your phone you get a 50% off coupon. I don't mind paying a little more for a case made by the OEM guaranteed to fit, and not interfere with the S-Pen being removed. I have seen people (here on XDA) modify the case and use the flip case too, jury is still out on that for me. The Note will be my first ever non-nude phone. I think the flip case might be too much for me.
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tl;dr - No regrets, couldn't be happier, performance and battery life are leaps and bounds ahead of the One X.
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celljunkie707 said:
Came from it. Love my GN2 and sold my One X
hope this helps.
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debate is over... One XL is for sale!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fine-Point-Precision-Stylus-Pen-Gosin-Universal-Pinpoint-Digital-Stylus-for/112742795026
For the last 7 years I've been keeping notes in my mobiles, sometimes with better, sometimes with worse results. My previous device was the Samsung Note 4, after which my note-keeping standards reached new heights. Now that I switched to an LG G6, I tried to find a decent alternative. I tried a simple one, one of those Adonit Jot knockoffs and the results were near perfect, in terms of writing, but the transparent disc at the tip is distracting. My next purchase was a cheap USB-powered active stylus, and it was also perfect, but the need for charging kept me from carrying it with me. So I bought the Gosin.
First of all, its built quality is absolutely great, it feels like an ordinary, good quality pen in terms of weight and materials. Its handling is also identical to a heavy, good pen, which makes writing on screen even more similar to writing on paper. Its main difference is that it's powered by an AAA battery and that makes it very independent. You just have to carry one more spare battery in your bag and you have enough energy for days of writing.
One other feature that actually works is its adjustable power. I tried the stylus on my notorious Xiaomi MiPad and on low power the results were terrible, as usual. When I turned the power on, my writings were actually usable. Keep in mind that the first and most important factor in note taking on mobile devices is the device's Digitizer. A good digitizer can make note taking a whole lot easier. Are there any cons? Just one, the battery cap is plastic, I'd surely prefer a metal one.
Bottom line, this is a great active stylus. It works very well, it feels great in hand and is power independent.
Hello. Can you "actually" write notes comfortably on the G6 with this pen?
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Hello. Can you "actually" write notes comfortably on the G6 with this pen?
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Hi, as I said, you can actually write notes on G6 with every stylus, at least those three I have tried. All three were great, I have never missed a single dot. G6's digitizer is very sensitive and works great. The sample I uploaded was all written on a single try and, as you can see, even the finest line has been put on the screen.
The Gosin is great for me because it feels like a real pen in my hand, it uses an AAA battery and has a very fine tip compared to those with a disc on the tip. It's more expensive than other solutions though, so I'd recommend that you first tried a cheap one and if it suits you, then buy the Gosin.
I have had styluses recommended that were as fine tipped as a rolling pin. I could see from your samples it obviously looks great - and isn't a rolling pin - but had to ask. Thank you very much for the review.
Been watching a few videos about the Mate 20x, I really do fancy one. I have the 20 Pro atm.
So to my question -
What is it like for everyday usage, is it too large?
Is it more of just an internet browsing device or a gaming device.
I don't have large hands & have the Note 9 atm Is the difference in size not that much?
Any other comments welcome.
I have normal size hands and for me its not to big at all.
I never play games, but really enjoy seeing everything a little bigger
Its a awesome phone and it fits in all my normal jeans pockets to.
Go get it [emoji4]
I've only had it a few days, and have the iPhone X S Max too.
Certainly not too big for me. Lovely screen.
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Been watching a few videos about the Mate 20x, I really do fancy one. I have the 20 Pro atm.
So to my question -
What is it like for everyday usage, is it too large?
Is it more of just an internet browsing device or a gaming device.
I don't have large hands & have the Note 9 atm Is the difference in size not that much?
Any other comments welcome.
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It's not as big as some of those review videos say it is. The camera, speakers and battery life and screen size are the best of any phone there is right now. There is no other phone that I would consider an "upgrade" to right now. This sets the standard for me as the best big phone there is. Having really loud speakers, a massive battery and screen and the best, most versatile cameras makes the 20 X the best big phone in my opinion.
I had a note 9 before getting the mate 20 x as well and it's far bigger but not in a bad way. I hated how "skinny" the note 9 was. This is by far the best device in the game. Only thing that sucks is no bootloader unlocks right now unless you want to pay laughable prices, but i got mine before the bootloaderpocalypse.
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It seems that this phone has a lot of issues and problems that are constantly being ignored or not cared about by Samsung.
Is this phone worth it, or am I better off selling it and buying an A50 which seems to have the attention of Samsung? Because The A50 has gotten so many updates compared to the A70 that is still on Security patch level: May.
I've had an A70 for about a month now and it's one of the best phones I've ever had. Battery averages at two days, screen is bright and always legible in bright sunlight, phone is fast and smooth. Fingerprint unlock used to be crap but updates have made it work ok. Face recognition is good. Camera is pretty good - again it's improving with updates.
I think it's the best phone for the price.
I'm really happy with mine but yeah the fingerprint reader isn't the best but it's still a great phone
Have not had any problem with this phone. To be honest, worth every Penny I paid for it.
At the moment I don't have one as my contract is due for an upgrade in October. But I as usual I have been doing research about this device and I must say the pro out weighs the cons by a mile. All the you tube reviews from unboxing to month on reviews are all positive. I am even overlooking the A80 as the A70 offers so much more for my money. Stick to your phone bud. You are in the teething phase now
I have been using a V30 and S8+ for the last year (1 was a personal device and the other as work phone). Performance on both phones was identical, with the key differences being the camera (better on the v30) and the ergonomics (v30 won this as well). Most recently I purchased the A70 and have been using it as my daily driver for the last 2 weeks or so. I have the A70 setup exactly the same way as both the V30/S8+. Same apps, settings, etc. I can say from a performance point of view, I have not missed the V30/S8+ at all. The A70 runs the same apps without any noticeable performance difference. I am not a huge gamer but there are a few that are always installed on my phones.. and they run the exact same on the A70, as they did on the S8+/V30. I haven't seen a difference in load times, or graphics and performance has been the same. Camera quality is pretty good. I thought Id miss the wide angle from the V30 but the A70 has it as well. Front camera on the A70 is much better than both the S8 and the nearly useless front cam on the v30. Battery life is fantastic. I get 2 days usage from the A70, whereas the S8+ gave me 1 day. Audio quality to my ears is the same. That is a lot considering the A70 runs on the SD675 and the V30/S8+ on the SD 835. The display is crisp and what you expect from a samoled. I would say yes, the phone is def worth it. Removable storage, huge battery, fantastic 1080p display, BT 5.0. and great performance. This phone has met all my expectations.. and I am glad I bought this rather than an s10+ which is more than double the cost of this phone.
Hello,
As Stillriza I used a S8+ (for 2 years). I now have the A70 since 1.5 months. The fingerprint unlock is good since last software update (when it is difficult I honestly have an explication such as finger is just coming out of water, long pressure on the finger...).
The 32Mp camera is good outside by day but the quality decreases when the light is decreasing (much worse than the camera of the S8+).
I haven't notice any slowdons on apps compared to S8+.
The screen has a lower resolution than the S8+ one but bigger. It is really not visible and it is very good and effective in the sun.
I will keep this "pocket computer" for a long time. I think it really worth its price.
For that price
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
Yes i'm totally happy with my a70, not a perfect device but exceeded my expectations by miles
I will list cons only here:
1-white colour has a tint to it, but no problem may be the amoled nature or my calibration
2-prefer stock android, but one ui is so good
3-no twrp or easy root and custom roms yet, but i will wait
4-no stereo speakers, but the included speaker is loud enough
other than than all are pros not cons
I like it. it's not perfect but it has better native apps than most phones I've owned.
fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work
but the phone has a night mode for its settings. has a great onboard keyboard. it has its own app store, theme store.
File explorer is very usable. I'm off 3rd party apps for the most part.
The music app is super fast to load the artworks. Sees most artworks. takes 48 hours but indexed my 300GB music and loads entire list (all have artworks) in real time. Really imperfect but very fast, great music app by Samsung.
Then there is the RAM Memory optimizer under settings; device care; then memory button. On other phones I have had lately, this can take a long time. Have to go in apps in settings and do each one individually.
My phone gets 1 bar of signal strength less than my other phones but despite that I love this phone.
Fingerprint reader performance is livable. (A sweaty thumb on glossy glass is prone to cause difficulties with finger print reading, even on Iphones. So I can deal with it. - Try storing fingerprint data with a wet finger? Seems to have helped.)
The camera with the G-cam app is very good, and even so I still find myself using the Samsung camera app more often for its features and the polish of the app. - The panoramic shot is a full 360 degrees and better than my Iphone7. I like the hyperlapse and slowmotion. HOwever, this phone is definitely not a camera phone and won't take steady videos.
The native file explorer app and video player app are great.
The 20:9 aspect ratio is perfect for phones. You get so much usable real estate and yet a slimmer form factor that is much more practical for one handed use and for keeping in your pockets.
I love the ONE UI interface. I have it navigation bar set to invisble and I'm using gestures.
Compared to my previous phone it's thinner as well and feels great. It does not feel like a cheap phone at all. It feels solid and well produced.
I have the one in white. Paid $370 for it.
I got the samsung a70. I like the phone's 6.7 inch display. But the aspect ratio makes it a bit narrow. That's why I'm thinking about getting the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think I should stay with this phone or buy the mate 20x?
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fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work.
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Register 3 fingerprints of the same finger and it'll work seamlessly.
ok. I may try that. I have already but for some reason I deleted the first two or three, hoping one clear one.
Hey look at this RAM management screenshot. Whisked away Youtube's 150MB mess and a bunch of others.
Which one shuld i buy?
alsartawi said:
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
alsartawi said:
the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
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Seems like the Mi9T doesn't have an SD slot?
I have my A70 for a good amount of time to speak about it.
I really like the device. It's fast, reliable and it was a surprise to me that it can hold two sim cards and a microSD card at first. I remember that I was astornished by it's beautiful, shiny back, but that's a personal prefference. I only found 3 problems with this phone that gladly doesn't bother me that much.
Starting with the back, it's really, REALLY easy to scratch it. Mine, even if it was in the case, have some scuffs on the back. It's plastic, not as much resistable as the glass is, but I was aware of that when I was buying it. Kinda shame.
Secondly, the bezels are very small and I have big hands so sometinmes I touch the screen when I don't want to or being aware of. A bigger case like one of those armor cases should fix my issue, but that adds to the size of the phone which, I am not sure if I want right now.
Lastly, the cursed fingerprint scanner. It doesn't work all the times, but the updates seems to give it a bit of speed and accuracy, failed attempts to read out the fingerprint significantly decreases.
Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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I own the a70. But I'm thinking of switching to the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think its worth buying the mate 20x and selling the a70 for half an inch inch difference in screen size?
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3 months since I bought this awesome phone. I have no regrets. Biggest pros are 2 sim + sd card simultaneously and the huge 4500 mah battery
What a hell going on with the battery after the update??
2hours sot???
Are you got crasy samsung?!
We are talking now days on 7-8 hours sot, you gave us 2 hours??
Goodbye Zf4
Hello Honor magic vs/Oppo find n2
Bye, no one care.
I find that as Samsung doesn't have any competition with the Foldables, they are a bit slack sometimes.
If the Vivo X fold 2 becomes available globally, that will probably be my next phone.
Seriously, the thin candybar for the outer screen is ludicrous, it is useless when I need to type on it and is only really a quick view screen.
I have the Vivo X fold, battery after a solid day of use is still over 65%, the outer screen is larger which makes it easier to use unfolded (think S22 size screen) and, aside from the fact it has a lot of Chinese settings that restrict it, the software is fairly usable...
My Fold 4 sit's in my pocket without being touched and it chews through the battery.
I find I have to unfold it most of the time and that crease, WOW!!
The X fold crease is so much better and the phone sits flatter and thinner. There are pens (styluses) that you can use on it too and there is a noticeable difference when writing/drawing on the X fold.
Hoping some of these other foldables come out soon so Samsung has to up their game and improve their hardware.
The battery performance is indeed terrible in the UI5, but it was not remarkable prior to that either. My phone drains around 4%-5% overnight but once I start using it the battery drains significantly faster. All the battery monitoring apps I have tried suggest that the battery is in a good condition. I have tried putting almost all the apps to deep sleep but that does not do much.
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I find that as Samsung doesn't have any competition with the Foldables, they are a bit slack sometimes.
If the Vivo X fold 2 becomes available globally, that will probably be my next phone.
Seriously, the thin candybar for the outer screen is ludicrous, it is useless when I need to type on it and is only really a quick view screen.
I have the Vivo X fold, battery after a solid day of use is still over 65%, the outer screen is larger which makes it easier to use unfolded (think S22 size screen) and, aside from the fact it has a lot of Chinese settings that restrict it, the software is fairly usable...
My Fold 4 sit's in my pocket without being touched and it chews through the battery.
I find I have to unfold it most of the time and that crease, WOW!!
The X fold crease is so much better and the phone sits flatter and thinner. There are pens (styluses) that you can use on it too and there is a noticeable difference when writing/drawing on the X fold.
Hoping some of these other foldables come out soon so Samsung has to up their game and improve their hardware.
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What's about IP rating? Better hinge with support Flex Mode? Software that really makes use of foldable device?
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What's about IP rating? Better hinge with support Flex Mode? Software that really makes use of foldable device?
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I find most devices, whether advertised or not, are water resistant both have had no issue with dust (but then again I'm not grabbing a handful of dirt and mashing into the mechanisms either).
The hinge on the X fold is buttery smooth and there is a mode like flex mode too (though locked to the stock Chinese apps that come pre-installed).
The software is where you get more value with Samsung but as more people use other foldable devices the software will improve too (especially as Google dishes out more support for foldable devices).
While not totally on par with Samsung the X Fold does have an enjoyable OS experience, there aren't too many quirks and there are some apps I miss but for the most part it holds it's own.
And yes, I have both devices to compare.
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I find most devices, whether advertised or not, are water resistant both have had no issue with dust (but then again I'm not grabbing a handful of dirt and mashing into the mechanisms either).
The hinge on the X fold is buttery smooth and there is a mode like flex mode too (though locked to the stock Chinese apps that come pre-installed).
The software is where you get more value with Samsung but as more people use other foldable devices the software will improve too (especially as Google dishes out more support for foldable devices).
While not totally on par with Samsung the X Fold does have an enjoyable OS experience, there aren't too many quirks and there are some apps I miss but for the most part it holds it's own.
And yes, I have both devices to compare.
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So Fold from Samsung is still better?
In all honesty, the X fold hardware, I feel, is better, outside screen is larger, the internal screen has a MUCH smaller crease and the phone when folded is flatter.
The Chinese only firmware is what really trips it up.
If they produce the X fold with a Global ROM I would definitely have a go at it over Samsung.
The Fold 4 camera only just got an upgrade (and still is lagging behind over other Samsung flagship phones) but the X fold came out with better camera 1st (remember, the X fold was released 4 months before the Z fold 4).
You can see the specs her for the X fold - https://www.gsmarena.com/vivo_x_fold-11460.php
and here for the Z Fold 4 - https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_z_fold4-11737.php
The X fold, spec for spec, holds it's own. Hopefully it is released globally as it might give Samsung the push to improve the Z fold line...