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Trying to see what factors influenced people here to get a 4.3" screen over a 5".
Portability is a good reason but how do you reconcile that with decreased readability of a smaller screen.
The trend was to move from iphone size screen over to 5 inchers. 5 inches seems optimum. Anything bigger and it becomes unwieldy. Now it seems we're going in the opposite direction.
So given a choice over the Z1 or compact. Why would you go with the compact ?
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Trying to see what factors influenced people here to get a 4.3" screen over a 5".
Portability is a good reason but how do you reconcile that with decreased readability of a smaller screen.
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i am really, really glad someone took the step to release a 4,3"-phone with descent hardware-specs. I just want to reach all corners of the screen while holding it in one hand. Can't do this with 5" or larger. Also, i don't need 5" for any reason on my mobile. I got a Nexus 7 for watching movies, playing HiRes-Games and all the other stuff, a large screen is good for. So 4,3" on the mobile is perfect for me because it fits into the pocket and i can use it one-handed.
One Twelve said:
Trying to see what factors influenced people here to get a 4.3" screen over a 5".
Portability is a good reason but how do you reconcile that with decreased readability of a smaller screen.
The trend was to move from iphone size screen over to 5 inchers. 5 inches seems optimum. Anything bigger and it unwieldy. Now it seems we're going in the opposite direction.
So given a choice over the Z1 or compact. Why would you go with the compact ?
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Size.
And as a bonus a better IPS-display.
I moved from a Galaxy S3 which I'd had for 2 years. My main worry about getting the Z1c was the smaller screen. And after having the Z1c for a couple of days I'm getting used to it.
I do find the keyboard letters smaller but. I do love this phone. It's far speedier than the S3 and I find the text shaper.
I'm not missing the 4.8" S3 at all.
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toxic_garden said:
i am really, really glad someone took the step to release a 4,3"-phone with descent hardware-specs. I just want to reach all corners of the screen while holding it in one hand. Can't do this with 5" or larger.
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Underlined bit is a major reason i've heard people mention for not going beyond 5 inchers.
Time was you could not make a screen that big and be able to use it one handed. Things have changed. many people think the Z1 is very close to the size of the note 3 yet only offers a 5 inch screen.
toxic_garden said:
Also, i don't need 5" for any reason on my mobile. I got a Nexus 7 for watching movies, playing HiRes-Games and all the other stuff, a large screen is good for. So 4,3" on the mobile is perfect for me because it fits into the pocket and i can use it one-handed.
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What about web browsing though ? granted reading on a 5 incher isn't all that great either. but does going smaller make it worse.
Not talking about ppi or anything just wondering whether the reduced screen estate gets in the way. If you don't do much browsing then its moot. But part of owning a smartphone is being able to do just that. To browse on the move.
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What about web browsing though ? granted reading on a 5 incher isn't all that great either. but does going smaller make it worse.
Not talking about ppi or anything just wondering whether the reduced screen estate gets in the way. If you don't do much browsing then its moot. But part of owning a smartphone is being able to do just that. To browse on the move.
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i rarely use the browser. For most things (Wikipedia, Facebook, Amazon, Imgur, xda, etc.) i use the appropriate app. And reading within those apps doesn't make a difference between 4.3" and 5" for me. So: no, i don't browse a lot (by meaning "browsing" in the classical way using the browser), but gather information using the mobile apps. Which works just perfect for me. Especially as i changed the dpi to 280, so there's a bit more room for content.
If i had a chance to choose from z1 to z1c ill get z1c. Battery and screen size. Ratio of battery to screen size is almost perfect. I hope thwy should keep this ratio.
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Size. 5"+ is a mini tablet imo and impractical for one handed operation, and for some reason manufacturers seem to have thought this far that everyone wants a big screen which for me just isn't the case, where as the Z1 Compact is perfect for a "mobile" Phone.
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Specs and Size for me.
I've had the HTC One X now for nearly 2 years, and coming close to upgrade time so had been looking around anyway, however, started a new job five months ago and was given an iPhone 5 as my works phone.
Both on the same network, so has been a really good test for me to compare the two OS's back to back. And while the iPhone has loads of really nice features, there are so many things it lacks (and also performs really poorly on, like dealing with anything in a poor signal area), which has made me really prefer Android.
The only one thing that I really like about the iPhone 5 compared to my HTC, is the size... it's made it feel massive, and now I've used both side by side, I really notice how much nicer a smaller phone is to use day to day.
Went to look at all the other 'Mini' phones, and they're all the same spec as my current HTC One X, which considering it's nearly 2 years old, seemed pointless to pay for a 'new' phone, when it's no better than my existing one, only smaller.
Then the Compact was announced, with same high-end specs as all the other flagship phones, and fit the bill perfectly!
I bought a Z1c after a "Hands-On" in a shop and I had the same reasons as many others: Size and Spec
Size:
Some people state that the size of an IPhone 4s is perfect, some other prefer a 5". So it's more a point of view and taste.
I've had many "hands-on" with different devices and for my taste/usage everything above 4.6" would be too much.
If possible I still like to use my thumb for scrolling, etc and with Z1c I can reach almost every corner of the screen.
Specs:
I guess I don't have to go in detail? It's just perfect and is a great successor of my Xperia S.
Size. and HQ Sony Camera
So thats what I thought...but after I saw how bad the cam is, probably will get rid of this piece of crap.
Steve_God said:
The only one thing that I really like about the iPhone 5 compared to my HTC, is the size... it's made it feel massive, and now I've used both side by side, I really notice how much nicer a smaller phone is to use day to day.
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Yeah, that's a very improtant reason. A phone ought to be portable if it isn't then you're compromising for something else.
I take it you're not much of a web browser either ?
Steve_God said:
Went to look at all the other 'Mini' phones, and they're all the same spec as my current HTC One X, which considering it's nearly 2 years old, seemed pointless to pay for a 'new' phone, when it's no better than my existing one, only smaller.
Then the Compact was announced, with same high-end specs as all the other flagship phones, and fit the bill perfectly!
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Sony is teaching everybody else how to make a compact instead of some crippled smaller unit.
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Size. and HQ Sony Camera
So thats what I thought...but after I saw how bad the cam is, probably will get rid of this piece of crap.
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wow. That's what i call a rash decision.
Perhaps you might wanna take a thought about waiting for the next 2 or 3 ROM-Updates from Sony before "getting rid of this piece of crap"? Time tells us that newly released flagships might get better with new FW-Versions....
styxter said:
If i had a chance to choose from z1 to z1c ill get z1c. Battery and screen size. Ratio of battery to screen size is almost perfect. I hope thwy should keep this ratio.
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Power to weight ratio.
Z1c endurance is 65 h, whereas the Z1 is 53h. The browsing doubled in time compared to the Z1.
Let's see how real world screen on times compare but i expect they will be better based on gsm arena's benchmarks.
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Perhaps you might wanna take a thought about waiting for the next 2 or 3 ROM-Updates from Sony before "getting rid of this piece of crap"?
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If it´s really a software issue. I mean my cam is making yellow pictures - this cannot be a random software issue. I have to use my nexus 4 to make photos, that´s crazy, why do I have this new phone?
But for 500€ it´s not ok that sony is selling untested smartphones
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If it´s really a software issue. I mean my cam is making yellow pictures - this cannot be a random software issue. I have to use my nexus 4 to make photos, that´s crazy, why do I have this new phone?
But for 500€ it´s not ok that sony is selling untested smartphones
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i remember pictures being pretty crappy on my HTC One last year. Some firmware-updates really improved quality a lot. So don't underestimate the mighty power of good firmwares.
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I take it you're not much of a web browser either ?.
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I browse the web a lot on my mobile when I'm on the go for quick bits of info, and the size difference between the HTC One X, and the iPhone didn't make a great deal of difference, as you still need to zoom in on most non-mobile optimised pages either way.
Although if I know I'm going to be browsing for a long period of time (20+ mins) I'll always jump on a PC as it's much easier.
The reason I went for the compact if the normal was the IPS screen. Much better viewing angles and improved design.
I'm not bothered about screen size at all. But I don't spend all day looking at my phone to be honest. Better in the pocket that a big screen phone also
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wow. That's what i call a rash decision.
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+1 Has any Phone been perfect upon release, I'd wait until until a FW update to see if that sorts it, if not return it.
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If it´s really a software issue. I mean my cam is making yellow pictures - this cannot be a random software issue.
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Is this indoors or outdoors ?
I still have my Samsung Note 9 with me and bit skeptical about changing with Mate 20 x. I like big phones and mate 20 x is a dream came true. Even though people praise it to be an absolute beast of a phone, but i still have doubts. Because the phone is rather new, i would like an opinion on the phone overall usage. Any bugs and issues that i should know. If compared to Note 9, how much difference between these phones and how many features that are useful. Tq
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I still have my Samsung Note 9 with me and bit skeptical about changing with Mate 20 x. I like big phones and mate 20 x is a dream came true. Even though people praise it to be an absolute beast of a phone, but i still have doubts. Because the phone is rather new, i would like an opinion on the phone overall usage. Any bugs and issues that i should know. If compared to Note 9, how much difference between these phones and how many features that are useful. Tq
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After owning multiple Samsung Phones up until the S8+ as long as devices the size of the Mate 20 X exist I will never buy a Samsung product. Now if Samsung released a 7.2" phone with similar specs to the 20 X and kept the price reasonable then I would consider it.
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I still have my Samsung Note 9 with me and bit skeptical about changing with Mate 20 x. I like big phones and mate 20 x is a dream came true. Even though people praise it to be an absolute beast of a phone, but i still have doubts. Because the phone is rather new, i would like an opinion on the phone overall usage. Any bugs and issues that i should know. If compared to Note 9, how much difference between these phones and how many features that are useful. Tq
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I owned a Note 9 and though its a good phone, i think the 20X is the better overall phone:
- Phenomenal batterylife, 8 Hrs. screenontime with over 3 days days (76 hours) off the charger
- Better speakers and fuller sound (more bass)
- Overall speed and fluidity seems better
- EMUI feels lighter then the Samsung launcher
- Better camera, especialy in lowlight conditions
- Bigger screen, DPI is lower but i don`t notice it in every day real life
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I owned a Note 9 and though its a good phone, i think the 20X is the better overall phone:
- Phenomenal batterylife, 8 Hrs. screenontime with over 3 days days (76 hours) off the charger
- Better speakers and fuller sound (more bass)
- Overall speed and fluidity seems better
- EMUI feels lighter then the Samsung launcher
- Better camera, especialy in lowlight conditions
- Bigger screen, DPI is lower but i don`t notice it in every day real life
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About the dpi, can we manually change it like the note 9.
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martin132014 said:
About the dpi, can we manually change it like the note 9.
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Yes
martin132014 said:
About the dpi, can we manually change it like the note 9.
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I know, but i leave it like it is which is fine for me
May I ask how to change the DPI? would it break things that attempted to scale up or down to it like stock apps ?
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After owning multiple Samsung Phones up until the S8+ as long as devices the size of the Mate 20 X exist I will never buy a Samsung product. Now if Samsung released a 7.2" phone with similar specs to the 20 X and kept the price reasonable then I would consider it.
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I second this statement !
Samsung is amazing, however I am really really loving Huawei.
My Huawei Mate 20 X EVR-L29 is hands down my favorite phone that I owned thus far, I have owned a lot of phones, the M20X is AMAZING.
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martin132014 said:
I still have my Samsung Note 9 with me and bit skeptical about changing with Mate 20 x. I like big phones and mate 20 x is a dream came true. Even though people praise it to be an absolute beast of a phone, but i still have doubts. Because the phone is rather new, i would like an opinion on the phone overall usage. Any bugs and issues that i should know. If compared to Note 9, how much difference between these phones and how many features that are useful. Tq
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I was really nervous about breaking away from Samsung Galaxy phones as well.
However Huawei is just as good as Samsung so I ended up being thoroughly pleased.
I still love Samsung & will still buy there devices.
Huawei is just as good though.
The Mate 20 X is hands down my favorite phone thus far !
I have the Note 9 and the 20 X. They're both great phones and I continue to swap back and forth every week or so just because I can't declare a true winner between the two of them (read: a winner for me). The 20 X offers far superior battery life but the software in the Note 9 is more polished (probably a personal opinion). I like the larger flat screen on the X but miss Samsung Pay. For me, I'd say the cameras are pretty much equal. They're both super speedy.
Honestly, you can't go wrong with either.
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I owned a Note 9 and though its a good phone, i think the 20X is the better overall phone:
- Phenomenal batterylife, 8 Hrs. screenontime with over 3 days days (76 hours) off the charger
- Better speakers and fuller sound (more bass)
- Overall speed and fluidity seems better
- EMUI feels lighter then the Samsung launcher
- Better camera, especialy in lowlight conditions
- Bigger screen, DPI is lower but i don`t notice it in every day real life
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That pretty much sums up my experience, although from a Note 8. The biggest plus is battery life, and the biggest negative is the lack of the on-board pen. I'm awaiting the arrival of a case with integral M-Pen holder to solve that deficit. My main reason for switching is to use the Mate 20 X in projects for extensive note-taking, for which the Sammy is too narrow.
Ron
ajsmsg78 said:
After owning multiple Samsung Phones up until the S8+ as long as devices the size of the Mate 20 X exist I will never buy a Samsung product. Now if Samsung released a 7.2" phone with similar specs to the 20 X and kept the price reasonable then I would consider it.
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Not me. Note 9 is thick and kinda clunky, Mate 20X even being bigger feels better since it is slimmer. Also, hate Samsung software, stupid Bixby button, etc.. The note 9 is also extra tall with thier stupid ratio. The only thing the Note 9 has going for it over the 20X is the in phone stylus holder.
I don't trust to Huawei mate 20 Pro because there is so many of them with screen fault ( green color)... widely popular name is " Hulk screen". Also I'm not a fan of no 3.5 jack and speaker in charging port... about 1 dB(A)
Huawei's decision to output audio through the USB port means that sound quality will degrade when a USB cable is connected.*
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MILJANN said:
I don't trust to Huawei mate 20 Pro because there is so many of them with screen fault ( green color)... widely popular name is " Hulk screen". Also I'm not a fan of no 3.5 jack and speaker in charging port... about 1 dB(A)
Huawei's decision to output audio through the USB port means that sound quality will degrade when a USB cable is connected.*
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Thats because of the glue on the Mate 20 Pro`s curved sides of the screen.
I went from iOS to Android and never looked back.
I went from Samsungs to Huaweis and never looked back.
Mate 20x sounds great sizewise. People forget these aren't "phones" they are mobile PCs and cameras that can be used t make call. Plus Huawei phones actually DO get faster as they claim. Not just not get slower, but actuallly speed up!
My only criticism and the onlything making me hesitant to buy Mate 20x is no stylus holder
They've really shot themselvses in the foot here. Lovely big screen you can write good notes on but no pen included???
Battery, Size rule over my note 8. Also had app lock and private space as well.
Camera reviews are solid as well.
Samsung will be more refined but Huawei is fast catching up.
Sam Note 9 is better all-around devices but Mate 20 X has more special points to try: screen size, screen/body ratio, camera, true external speakers, battery life, temperatures. Note 9 Snap worther to try, not Exynos version!
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I have Galaxy Note 9 with exynos chipset and frankly it's not a bad phone I don't see quite much differences between snapdragon version and exynos... maybe 5-10% in battery life and the rest is all the same
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Guys actually I have a Galaxy Note 9, I like it but I am thinking on a bigger screen. I remember that the thing that I hated so much in Huawei P20 were the notifications issues. For example telegram, whatsapp and Messenger. I always had to turn the screen on or open these apps to get the notifications. I want to ask you guys ¿is there the same problem on Mate 20 X? Thanks in advance, and I am sorry about my english writing.
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Guys actually I have a Galaxy Note 9, I like it but I am thinking on a bigger screen. I remember that the thing that I hated so much in Huawei P20 were the notifications issues. For example telegram, whatsapp and Messenger. I always had to turn the screen on or open these apps to get the notifications. I want to ask you guys ¿is there the same problem on Mate 20 X? Thanks in advance, and I am sorry about my english writing.
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People with the Chinese versions claim there isn't any notification issues by adjusting the settings. I will believe when I see it. As soon as I get my unlock code for the AL00 model, I will switch over from my L29 model and see.
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Comparing stock note 9 versus mate 20 X probably comes out as a tie but if custom ROMs are important to you, I'd stick with Samsung. If you choose Huawei, you have to make peace with living with EMUI.... Forever.
I have both and really confused which one I keep
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
My cons and pros.
Pros:
Excellent non-edge screen while still having minor bezels.
Superb battery life.
Fast daily usage.
Cons:
Poor nighttime camera.
Bottom firing speaker is weak and tinny sounding.
Like most in-screen fingerprint readers it is a bit slow to unlock.
Only con for me is Finger Print scanner
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Camera quality is not that good. Missing lot of options mainly stabilization etc..
Sound is week. Speaker volume should be 85% or more to listen clearly and only one speaker which is at bottom.
doesn't play 4k video only 1080 60fps. (may be because of mid range phone)
one ui is like for kids.
check for other options also instead of spending huge amount on s10+ as well.
naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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Since you don't care much for the camera, save yourself several hundreds of bucks and go for the A70: bigger screen, bigger battery. At least, that's what I go for if I was in your shoes.
Should be fine
naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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I recently purchased the A70 n its a good phone. Hasn't lagged at all n is snappy too.
Just like u i use my phone primarily for social media consumption. The battery's great. I do play some games on it like gods of rome, asphalt 8 n they haven't lagged at all. Can't say anything about camera quality cause i dont take photos n simply put i just don't have any interestin details n stuff. If i can make out the objects in the photo then that's all i need from the phone. So according to me the phone is great. I would recommend buying it. If all u do is social media then s10 is an overkill n a waste of money.
naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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I you don't care that much about camera quality you can't go wrong with A70 considering the huge difference in price.
Toyota Or Lexus?
IMO.. The Answer Is Simple..
If you can afford to get the S10+.. That's what you purchase.
The A70 is a Good Phone.
The S10 / S10+ is a "Flagship Phone"
It will get the Major Updates Faster and Longer from Samsung.
It will get FAR MORE Developer Support over the long haul from Some of the Elite-Recognized-Developers here on XDA.
It will have Greater Resale Value.. AND Trade-In Value over the next 2 years if you choose to upgrade.
The Exynos 9820 ( if that is what's available to you in your region ) is not quite on par with the Snapdragon 855.. but it's still going to have the ability to play more graphic intensive games, run HDR-10+ etc.. as we move into the 2020's.. you'll be glad you have that extra horsepower to handle not just today's entertainment.. but tomorrows entertainment as well.
You can find video comparisons of the A70 vs S10+ and Exynos 9820 vs Snapdragon 855 on youtube.
If you are counting your pennies.. A70
If you want the best.. S10 / S10+ OR.. The Incredible OnePlus 7 Pro.. Which will get TREMENDOUS Developer support.
Never Be Afraid To Buy The Best.. In The End.. It Will Give You The Most Satisfaction..
ssurampu said:
Camera quality is not that good. Missing lot of options mainly stabilization etc..
Sound is week. Speaker volume should be 85% or more to listen clearly and only one speaker which is at bottom.
doesn't play 4k video only 1080 60fps. (may be because of mid range phone)
one ui is like for kids.
check for other options also instead of spending huge amount on s10+ as well.
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Can you give me other options?
naurez_aasi said:
Can you give me other options?
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Get the Huawei Mate 20X. It's a beast
Yes mate 20x, I waited so long for that but still not available in Pakistan.
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I;d get the OnePlus 7 Pro if I wanted to spend that much but I don't see the need. The A70 does what I need for much less.
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Yes mate 20x, I waited so long for that but still not available in Pakistan.
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Can you tell me hows your A70 going. I heard there are issues with touch.
I don't have touch issues but touch screen is so sensitive, I can use my a70 with headphones wire , also bezels are so small that you unintentionally touch screen with palm of hand , I don't have any ghost touches.
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It seems that this phone has a lot of issues and problems that are constantly being ignored or not cared about by Samsung.
Is this phone worth it, or am I better off selling it and buying an A50 which seems to have the attention of Samsung? Because The A50 has gotten so many updates compared to the A70 that is still on Security patch level: May.
I've had an A70 for about a month now and it's one of the best phones I've ever had. Battery averages at two days, screen is bright and always legible in bright sunlight, phone is fast and smooth. Fingerprint unlock used to be crap but updates have made it work ok. Face recognition is good. Camera is pretty good - again it's improving with updates.
I think it's the best phone for the price.
I'm really happy with mine but yeah the fingerprint reader isn't the best but it's still a great phone
Have not had any problem with this phone. To be honest, worth every Penny I paid for it.
At the moment I don't have one as my contract is due for an upgrade in October. But I as usual I have been doing research about this device and I must say the pro out weighs the cons by a mile. All the you tube reviews from unboxing to month on reviews are all positive. I am even overlooking the A80 as the A70 offers so much more for my money. Stick to your phone bud. You are in the teething phase now
I have been using a V30 and S8+ for the last year (1 was a personal device and the other as work phone). Performance on both phones was identical, with the key differences being the camera (better on the v30) and the ergonomics (v30 won this as well). Most recently I purchased the A70 and have been using it as my daily driver for the last 2 weeks or so. I have the A70 setup exactly the same way as both the V30/S8+. Same apps, settings, etc. I can say from a performance point of view, I have not missed the V30/S8+ at all. The A70 runs the same apps without any noticeable performance difference. I am not a huge gamer but there are a few that are always installed on my phones.. and they run the exact same on the A70, as they did on the S8+/V30. I haven't seen a difference in load times, or graphics and performance has been the same. Camera quality is pretty good. I thought Id miss the wide angle from the V30 but the A70 has it as well. Front camera on the A70 is much better than both the S8 and the nearly useless front cam on the v30. Battery life is fantastic. I get 2 days usage from the A70, whereas the S8+ gave me 1 day. Audio quality to my ears is the same. That is a lot considering the A70 runs on the SD675 and the V30/S8+ on the SD 835. The display is crisp and what you expect from a samoled. I would say yes, the phone is def worth it. Removable storage, huge battery, fantastic 1080p display, BT 5.0. and great performance. This phone has met all my expectations.. and I am glad I bought this rather than an s10+ which is more than double the cost of this phone.
Hello,
As Stillriza I used a S8+ (for 2 years). I now have the A70 since 1.5 months. The fingerprint unlock is good since last software update (when it is difficult I honestly have an explication such as finger is just coming out of water, long pressure on the finger...).
The 32Mp camera is good outside by day but the quality decreases when the light is decreasing (much worse than the camera of the S8+).
I haven't notice any slowdons on apps compared to S8+.
The screen has a lower resolution than the S8+ one but bigger. It is really not visible and it is very good and effective in the sun.
I will keep this "pocket computer" for a long time. I think it really worth its price.
For that price
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
Yes i'm totally happy with my a70, not a perfect device but exceeded my expectations by miles
I will list cons only here:
1-white colour has a tint to it, but no problem may be the amoled nature or my calibration
2-prefer stock android, but one ui is so good
3-no twrp or easy root and custom roms yet, but i will wait
4-no stereo speakers, but the included speaker is loud enough
other than than all are pros not cons
I like it. it's not perfect but it has better native apps than most phones I've owned.
fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work
but the phone has a night mode for its settings. has a great onboard keyboard. it has its own app store, theme store.
File explorer is very usable. I'm off 3rd party apps for the most part.
The music app is super fast to load the artworks. Sees most artworks. takes 48 hours but indexed my 300GB music and loads entire list (all have artworks) in real time. Really imperfect but very fast, great music app by Samsung.
Then there is the RAM Memory optimizer under settings; device care; then memory button. On other phones I have had lately, this can take a long time. Have to go in apps in settings and do each one individually.
My phone gets 1 bar of signal strength less than my other phones but despite that I love this phone.
Fingerprint reader performance is livable. (A sweaty thumb on glossy glass is prone to cause difficulties with finger print reading, even on Iphones. So I can deal with it. - Try storing fingerprint data with a wet finger? Seems to have helped.)
The camera with the G-cam app is very good, and even so I still find myself using the Samsung camera app more often for its features and the polish of the app. - The panoramic shot is a full 360 degrees and better than my Iphone7. I like the hyperlapse and slowmotion. HOwever, this phone is definitely not a camera phone and won't take steady videos.
The native file explorer app and video player app are great.
The 20:9 aspect ratio is perfect for phones. You get so much usable real estate and yet a slimmer form factor that is much more practical for one handed use and for keeping in your pockets.
I love the ONE UI interface. I have it navigation bar set to invisble and I'm using gestures.
Compared to my previous phone it's thinner as well and feels great. It does not feel like a cheap phone at all. It feels solid and well produced.
I have the one in white. Paid $370 for it.
I got the samsung a70. I like the phone's 6.7 inch display. But the aspect ratio makes it a bit narrow. That's why I'm thinking about getting the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think I should stay with this phone or buy the mate 20x?
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fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work.
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Register 3 fingerprints of the same finger and it'll work seamlessly.
ok. I may try that. I have already but for some reason I deleted the first two or three, hoping one clear one.
Hey look at this RAM management screenshot. Whisked away Youtube's 150MB mess and a bunch of others.
Which one shuld i buy?
alsartawi said:
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
alsartawi said:
the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
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Seems like the Mi9T doesn't have an SD slot?
I have my A70 for a good amount of time to speak about it.
I really like the device. It's fast, reliable and it was a surprise to me that it can hold two sim cards and a microSD card at first. I remember that I was astornished by it's beautiful, shiny back, but that's a personal prefference. I only found 3 problems with this phone that gladly doesn't bother me that much.
Starting with the back, it's really, REALLY easy to scratch it. Mine, even if it was in the case, have some scuffs on the back. It's plastic, not as much resistable as the glass is, but I was aware of that when I was buying it. Kinda shame.
Secondly, the bezels are very small and I have big hands so sometinmes I touch the screen when I don't want to or being aware of. A bigger case like one of those armor cases should fix my issue, but that adds to the size of the phone which, I am not sure if I want right now.
Lastly, the cursed fingerprint scanner. It doesn't work all the times, but the updates seems to give it a bit of speed and accuracy, failed attempts to read out the fingerprint significantly decreases.
Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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I own the a70. But I'm thinking of switching to the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think its worth buying the mate 20x and selling the a70 for half an inch inch difference in screen size?
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3 months since I bought this awesome phone. I have no regrets. Biggest pros are 2 sim + sd card simultaneously and the huge 4500 mah battery
If this is asked, I didn't see it but I wanted to ask the guys using the P6P before I decide which way I'm going, are you happy with the 6P or would trade down for the P6 Pro? And I ask this as someone who always goes with the bigger version (P4 XL, currently for example).
I'm guessing there are some of yo have test-driven both.
And if so, I'm curious about why or why not?? The extra $300 is a little harder to swallow 2 months after buying a house in an inflating economy...
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If this is asked, I didn't see it but I wanted to ask the guys using the P6P before I decide which way I'm going, are you happy with the 6P or would trade down for the P6 Pro? And I ask this as someone who always goes with the bigger version (P4 XL, currently for example).
I'm guessing there are some of yo have test-driven both.
And if so, I'm curious about why or why not?? The extra $300 is a little harder to swallow 2 months after buying a house in an inflating economy...
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I decided on the pro for the LTPO display and the 48 telephoto. I learned quickly that 120hz eats the battery so I keep it at 60 which helps a LOT.
Other than that if I had a choice to go back and save the 300 I probably would. It's not that much better. And the stereo speakers are not balanced AT all.
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I decided on the pro for the LTPO display and the 48 telephoto. I learned quickly that 120hz eats the battery so I keep it at 60 which helps a LOT.
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That's actually - at the moment - not true. There seems to be a strange bug.
Pixel 6 Pro Consuming More Power In 60Hz Mode Than In 120Hz One
The Google Pixel 6 Pro seems to be consuming more power in 60Hz mode, than it does in 120Hz mode. Needless to say, this is not normal, as higher refresh
www.androidheadlines.com
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I decided on the pro for the LTPO display and the 48 telephoto. I learned quickly that 120hz eats the battery so I keep it at 60 which helps a LOT.
Other than that if I had a choice to go back and save the 300 I probably would. It's not that much better. And the stereo speakers are not balanced AT all.
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I appreciate that. It's one of the reasons that I not sure which way to go, in that I don't need the enhanced resolution because I don't watch video on my phone or play games. It's just a nice feature to have it I guess but it's not a deal-breaker. The extra size is nice but mostly it's performance that I look for and from what I've read it's not a huge difference between devices.
Thanks for the input!
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If this is asked, I didn't see it but I wanted to ask the guys using the P6P before I decide which way I'm going, are you happy with the 6P or would trade down for the P6 Pro? And I ask this as someone who always goes with the bigger version (P4 XL, currently for example).
I'm guessing there are some of yo have test-driven both.
And if so, I'm curious about why or why not?? The extra $300 is a little harder to swallow 2 months after buying a house in an inflating economy...
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I'm very happy with the P6 Pro and don't want to miss it. I come from the Pixel 4 XL, so the new wide cam is a nice addition. Considering that the P6 Pro has a magnificent Tele zoom (better than the new IPhones), there is no way that I would go to the Pixel 6 non pro, certainly not for "just" 300 bucks. There are just too many arguments - that matter to me - that make the Pixel 6 Pro the better value for my money.
If we would live in a better world, the Pixel 6 would have the same size than the older "non" xl/pro versions - so in that case, if the Pixel 6 would be a small phone, I would maybe consider it. But since the Pixel 6 is as big as the P6 Pro...
Jea, nah. No.
My main reason for buying the Pro was because of the 512 GB storage model available only on the Pro. Bought one for both my wife and me.
If there was a 512 GB model available for the P6, I would've seriously considered it. I have no regrets buying the P6P, though.
welcome to the indecisiveness club. The pro has that curve which Im not sure about but on the regular 6 you loose that QHD display(my 2 XL has it) and loose telephoto. Hell I can't even decide if want either new device with the fingerprint complaints LOL.
I tried out both the 6 and the Pro over the weekend. Colour temperature of the screen was a bit different, but I couldn't see a difference in clarity (resolution) at arm's length. Small difference in phone size. The telephoto on the Pro was super nice, but the curved screen was awful - hit edge of screen when holding phone. I'm going to put on a case, which should help, but the feel in the hand and curved screen were enough to push me to save the $.
I'm on T-mobile, who theoretically have some mmwave coverage, but at least today I don't think I am going to miss those bands in real-time use (heck, the LTE bands barely penetrate my building).
If you like bigger, more development, and price point, then try the Pro...
I do have both phones. Wife murdering me ugh.
Ordered the Cloudy White Pixel 6 Pro originally, and had it delivered, and upon opening the box and looking over this super cool new phone, the curved edge display jumped out at me, not in a good way. The screen edges looked like an old Samsung Galaxy phone from years ago, just a dated look, and they add absolutely nothing useful to the phone. Feels more like a Samsung phone, not a Google Pixel.
Plus tapping on the phone or using the keyboard, there's this strange hollow feel behind the 6 Pro, hard to describe until you have it in your hands, but it feels sort of cheap.
I then went to T-Mobile, picked up a Seamfoam green Pixel 6, and my goodness, night and day better. Just feels rock solid, the FLAT screen a dream. This Pixel 6 feels more Google type, and just a nicer phone to hold and use.
But I will admit, the 6 Pro does feel slightly faster and smoother than the 6.
If you have to question if the extra $300 is worth it for the 6 Pro, just go for the 6. The 6 is the Pixel for most people anyway. I went with the 6 Pro because I want the best Google has to offer and the 6 isn't it. I'm a previous 2 XL and 4 XL owner.
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If you have to question if the extra $300 is worth it for the 6 Pro, just go for the 6. The 6 is the Pixel for most people anyway. I went with the 6 Pro because I want the best Google has to offer and the 6 isn't it. I'm a previous 2 XL and 4 XL owner.
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And that's just it. I always go for the bigger model, but times are a little tough right now, which is the only reason I'm even debating one or the other
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I'm very happy with the P6 Pro and don't want to miss it. I come from the Pixel 4 XL, so the new wide cam is a nice addition. Considering that the P6 Pro has a magnificent Tele zoom (better than the new IPhones), there is no way that I would go to the Pixel 6 non pro, certainly not for "just" 300 bucks. There are just too many arguments - that matter to me - that make the Pixel 6 Pro the better value for my money.
If we would live in a better world, the Pixel 6 would have the same size than the older "non" xl/pro versions - so in that case, if the Pixel 6 would be a small phone, I would maybe consider it. But since the Pixel 6 is as big as the P6 Pro...
Jea, nah. No.
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Lol this guy knows what he's talking about. I love the pixel 6 pro. When i walked into best buy 2 weeks ago, i instantly noticed a stark difference between it and the normal 6. The resolution difference is immediately noticeable. The smoothness, also instantly noticable. People that say they don't notice a difference between 90 and 120hz, well, all i can say is these people need their eyes checked. It's as obvious as night and day.
The biggest thing that left an unfavorable taste in my mouth, was how much the normal pixel 6 looks like a phone that was released in early 2018. Those. Massive. Antiquated. Bezels. Those bezels are simply to huge and gross. Also nobody seems to be pointing out the obvious. The build quality on the 6 looks very lackluster, and way less premium than the 6 pro . Just my two cents.
Do i wish the pixel 6 pro had a less curved screen? Sure, of course. After using the phone though, the curves are so appealing to the design asthetic, and it rests so ergonomically and beautifully in the hand. Google was also careful to design the curves to not refract light to much, or cause app padding/distortion. I love this device.
Many people or complaining about the fingerprint sensor and saying it's bad. It's not quite fast as OP9 Pro, but it's simply excellent. I have four prints for each thumb, screen sensitivity is set to to on and it's blazing fast and works every time.
Now, with that said, there most definitely are some legitimate complaints about this device, in my opinion. That unequivocally would be the charging speed, and the color reproduction. Thanks to some awesome third party apps, this problem is completely fixed. My device charges at more than acceptable speed, and the colors have a vibrant, slightly cooler whitepoint. No more beyond fugly piss colored screen. I'm on cloud 9.
Gytole said:
I decided on the pro for the LTPO display and the 48 telephoto. I learned quickly that 120hz eats the battery so I keep it at 60 which helps a LOT.
Other than that if I had a choice to go back and save the 300 I probably would. It's not that much better. And the stereo speakers are not balanced AT all.
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Bro do what you want, but 60 hz should be banned and retired. Without exaggeration, it really is that bad. Stuttery, janky, and looks horrible. Not only that, but the battery savings are not profound. To make matters even worse, it's been reported by Ars Technica, that 60 hz on the pro is currently inexplicably worse battery life than 120hz. I know, i know, that makes zero sense.
Bottom line is 60 hz should be removed completely from 2021 devices for scrolling in my opinion. 60 hz was decent a few years ago, because we simply didn't know any better. We don't know what we don't know. The experience with it is horrible. The screen LTPO should only fluctuate between 90 and 120, for movement IMHO. Of course once the screen goes static, i don't care if the hz stops down to 30, as long as it's hidden well, once you touch the screen again.
According to reviews the P6 struggles to keep thermals in check and gets hot. While the P6P remains cooler, according to comparisons.
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Burt Squirtz said:
Lol this guy knows what he's talking about. I love the pixel 6 pro. When i walked into best buy 2 weeks ago, i instantly noticed a stark difference between it and the normal 6. The resolution difference is immediately noticeable. The smoothness, also instantly noticable. People that say they don't notice a difference between 90 and 120hz, well, all i can say is these people need their eyes checked. It's as obvious as night and day.
The biggest thing that left an unfavorable taste in my mouth, was how much the normal pixel 6 looks like a phone that was released in early 2018. Those. Massive. Antiquated. Bezels. Those bezels are simply to huge and gross. Also nobody seems to be pointing out the obvious. The build quality on the 6 looks very lackluster, and way less premium than the 6 pro . Just my two cents.
Do i wish the pixel 6 pro had a less curved screen? Sure, of course. After using the phone though, the curves are so appealing to the design asthetic, and it rests so ergonomically and beautifully in the hand. Google was also careful to design the curves to not refract light to much, or cause app padding/distortion. I love this device.
Many people or complaining about the fingerprint sensor and saying it's bad. It's not quite fast as OP9 Pro, but it's simply excellent. I have four prints for each thumb, screen sensitivity is set to to on and it's blazing fast and works every time.
Now, with that said, there most definitely are some legitimate complaints about this device, in my opinion. That unequivocally would be the charging speed, and the color reproduction. Thanks to some awesome third party apps, this problem is completely fixed. My device charges at more than acceptable speed, and the colors have a vibrant, slightly cooler whitepoint. No more beyond fugly piss colored screen. I'm on cloud 9.
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Can I ask you what third party app you used to change color reproduction ?
The thick bezels on the regular 6 are a turn off for me, so the P6P it is despite the LTPO display being limited by the SOC's lack of Auto-VRR switching
Not even a $300 tag would justify those bezels which look more like a ploy to upsell you to the (arguably) more aesthetically pleasing P6P
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The thick bezels on the regular 6 are a turn off for me, so the P6P it is despite the LTPO display being limited by the SOC's lack of Auto-VRR switching
Not even a $300 tag would justify those bezels which look more like a ploy to upsell you to the (arguably) more aesthetically pleasing P6P
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I couldn't agree with this more. I'm surprised that the masses don't see this. There's tons of dumb posts of people thinking the P6 is a better choice, on Reddit and this forum. Scratching my head.
People are bound to justify their purchase decisions despite contrary facts presented. Case in point, people accepting the Notch, first brought to market by Essential and made popular by Apple
I like how every new product release brings to light the previous version's shortcomings but people are too eager to justify their next new purchase, time and time again, with Capitalism ensuring that each version of product has at least one deliberate flaw introduced that is conveniently fixed with a brand new purchase of the next iteration. Never Settle
I'm sure the P6 is exactly what some folks need, and hard to justify a 50% ($300) price difference for P6P. If they had a 512 GB model of the P6, I would've considered it, and it's at least slightly smaller - some folks don't want a bigger phone, and having a flat-screen is at least some advantage.