I'm in the middle of using the pixel 2xl as the primary camera on a YouTube cooking show. Aside from the need for extra/adequate lighting - why shouldn't I just shoot everything in slow motion?
From what I can see the files aren't even twice as large as those shot in 1080p60. Which still makes them about 20% the size of 4k video (my math is most certainly terrible)
The kicker - is that the slow motion video when played at regular speed (I think it's 60fps) doesn't look any different than if I shot it at 1080p60 - again assuming the lighting is adequate. So with every take it seems like I get a regular and slow motion shot. I just have to render it both be ways. I thought there would be ghosting or blur but I'm not seeing any at 60fps.
I did not tested the 60 FPS for a while now but I remember the quality of the 60FPS was not so detailed.
There are a couple of videos on youtube like:
Test if it is fits for you. Maybe some of the latest patches fixed some of the quality loss.
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Hey guys, the camera seems pretty good on this phone when I'm taking pictures, however when I am taking videos it almost seems kind of grainy even though its suppose to be 1080p. Anyone else have the similar or different experiences? Please share!
Grain doesn't have much to do with resolution. What affects grain directly is light. Low light will give you more grain. Period. This is valid for professional cameras as well.
Shoot a video I good light and the quality is excellent.
Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
How do you switch to 720p mode?
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Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
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efarley said:
Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
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I'm pretty sure that's just a big nasty bug. The camera sensor and chipset are all very capable of 1080. It seems like the 1080 is zoomed into the amount of area that 720 would take in the middle of a 1080 image...I won't say it's an honest mistake, as it's borderline retarded...but, if it is dumping 1080p worth of data it can certainly do 1080p video...that's only 2mp and the tough part is writing that to storage without it getting skippy...and clearly that can be done.
Though I am assuming it is writing a 1080p file...has anyone checked?
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I'm pretty sure that's just a big nasty bug. The camera sensor and chipset are all very capable of 1080. It seems like the 1080 is zoomed into the amount of area that 720 would take in the middle of a 1080 image...I won't say it's an honest mistake, as it's borderline retarded...but, if it is dumping 1080p worth of data it can certainly do 1080p video...that's only 2mp and the tough part is writing that to storage without it getting skippy...and clearly that can be done.
Though I am assuming it is writing a 1080p file...has anyone checked?
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GoPro HD also does this. Few of my friend's digital point and shoots did this as well. So, it's a sensor issue, not a software one.
I posted this before:
1080p:
http://youtu.be/c4AtsXjyKhY?hd=1
720p:
http://youtu.be/buHigxvlnfo?hd=1
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I really wish there was a way an external microphone could be used while recording video.
My problem is with the recorded audio. Has anyone found an app that let's you control audio gain. Serious clipping for live music records.
Its the quality (bitrate) in which the audio is recorded. At stock, its set at 64kbps and a sample rate of 44kHZ which is pretty subpar.
There's a hacked camera apk that lets you record audio at 194kbps with sample rate of 48kHz and also raises the video bitrate by a tad as well.
A tremendous difference in quality.
The graininess is caused by poor lighting. I went to sea world with my girl this week and all the outside video's came out amazing. But, inside shots with low light all came out very grainy. I can't blame the sensor too much because like someone mention before the same happens on high end camera's. But, also remember professional shots are taking with very high end lighting equipment.
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Its the quality (bitrate) in which the audio is recorded. At stock, its set at 64kbps and a sample rate of 44kHZ which is pretty subpar.
There's a hacked camera apk that lets you record audio at 194kbps with sample rate of 48kHz and also raises the video bitrate by a tad as well.
A tremendous difference in quality.
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I can't seem to find anything like what you're referring to anywhere in the market or our app section. Got a link or a file name? Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
and if u search our ET4G forum, you'll see a thread about it.
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Hey guys,
So a friend was showing off slow-motion recording on his Note II and I remembered "Hey my phone has that too"
I didn't actually record that time, but we had gone to the beach at night much later. I tried recording a video in slow motion. The lighting seemed enough when I viewed it from the phone, but as soon as I start recording the video in slow motion, the whole thing is dark. Now my question is why does it get dark in slow motion recording? I know the resolution drops but I have no idea why it gets darker. I could have snapped photos with the light present at that time, and the photos would be much better than how the recording came out.
Its more like when snapping pictures or taking normal videos in low-light, all is good. But for some reason in slow-motion mode the camera doesn't get enough light so the video appears dark. And Switching to Night-Mode Scene helped very little.
It needs to lower exposure to maintain the frame rate
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This is the same with any high fps camera ever. To compensate for the higher fps you need to lower the resolution or exposure.
hi all. today I got my new m9 and I admit that I'm really excited. despite all the talks about the bad camera, this does the job for me. however the video recording is really bad. I noticed very poor performance indoors (with quite much sun light in the house) with very few details and basically one of the worst video recordings. the video gets better outside but when I zoom at max, the image looks so bad. I recorded the same scene with the m9 and my previous htc one s and the one s captured more details at max zoom and the image looked cleaner. all this happened with at 1080p recording. when I switched to 4k things were better, the video was at the same level, maybe a little better than my one s. but this isn't supposed to happen. the photos taken in max zoom are good but when i record video they are much worse. i think using the google camera that things are a little better at video shooting. also i think that when I start recording video, it automatically zooms a little bit. I have installed latest OTA and latest camera update from playstore. I will appreciate if you can share your video shooting experience here, basically if you experience such bad image quality when you fully zoom in at 1080p. Thank you.
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hi all. today I got my new m9 and I admit that I'm really excited. despite all the talks about the bad camera, this does the job for me. however the video recording is really bad. I noticed very poor performance indoors (with quite much sun light in the house) with very few details and basically one of the worst video recordings. the video gets better outside but when I zoom at max, the image looks so bad. I recorded the same scene with the m9 and my previous htc one s and the one s captured more details at max zoom and the image looked cleaner. all this happened with at 1080p recording. when I switched to 4k things were better, the video was at the same level, maybe a little better than my one s. but this isn't supposed to happen. the photos taken in max zoom are good but when i record video they are much worse. i think using the google camera that things are a little better at video shooting. also i think that when I start recording video, it automatically zooms a little bit. I have installed latest OTA and latest camera update from playstore. I will appreciate if you can share your video shooting experience here, basically if you experience such bad image quality when you fully zoom in at 1080p. Thank you.
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I know what you mean, it gets really pixelatedat max zoom, I believe this is to do with the sharpness which hadn't been completely addressed, the ip6 and note 4 are far more capable in terms of the camera, bit of a bummer but not a great deal you can do about it. Try a different camera app, snap camera is quite good.
I have read on multiple reviews and sources that I can record at 1080p at 120 fps and at 720p at 240 fps. However, when I go into the setting for video recording and select either 1080p or 720p I only have the options to select 30 or 60 fps.
Only my slow motion option has the option for 120 or 240 fps.
Is anyone else having this issue or are these reviews and sources all somehow mistaken? The fps at which video recording can utilize is much more critical than the resolution it records at. For instance, I would much rather record at 1080p at 120 fps than at 4k at 30 fps.
It's not an issue. Either what you read was wrong or you misunderstood what was written.
1080p 30/60 normal video recording and 1080 120fps and 720p 240fps slow motion is what the Pixel 2s can do.
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It's not an issue. Either what you read was wrong or you misunderstood what was written.
1080p 30/60 normal video recording and 1080 120fps and 720p 240fps slow motion is what the Pixel 2s can do.
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Maybe the many many post and reviews I have read we're just not very clear on what they meant. But that's pretty much what I was expecting. Was having a hard time wondering how I could miss such an important setting. Hopey come out with some software that can utilize these fps settings that this phone is obviously capable of doing (since it currently does 120 fps at 1080p but only in slow motion).
SamsungGalaxySDye said:
Hopey come out with some software that can utilize these fps settings that this phone is obviously capable of doing (since it currently does 120 fps at 1080p but only in slow motion).
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You do realize that you can record in slow mo and not actually edit the slow mo in, right? Just make the slow mo bracket super small, throw it at the very front of video or rear. Trim it out. Volla! 120fps 1080.
Another option is to use Filmic Pro. You can manually set resolution and fps.
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You do realize that you can record in slow mo and not actually edit the slow mo in, right? Just make the slow mo bracket super small, throw it at the very front of video or rear. Trim it out. Volla! 120fps 1080.
Another option is to use Filmic Pro. You can manually set resolution and fps.
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I tried this but the quality of video, seems to have something to do with the light exposure, suffers when in slow motion mode.
I don't want to pay 15$ for a camera app. I just want Google to release some software to really take advantage of the current hardware.
The camera is already so good and still has potential to be even better.
I love the phone though it's by far the most consistanly responsive Android I have ever had.
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I tried this but the quality of video, seems to have something to do with the light exposure, suffers when in slow motion mode.
I don't want to pay 15$ for a camera app. I just want Google to release some software to really take advantage of the current hardware.
The camera is already so good and still has potential to be even better.
I love the phone though it's by far the most consistanly responsive Android I have ever had.
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That's natural for higher frame rates. The more frames, the more light that is needed.
There is no way around that except for manually adjusting exposure and ISO. Which can be done in Filmic.
What you seek is available to you.
What I seek is an update to the Google software, not a third party application that costs more money, because it's not sure a big deal that I want to spend more. I am patient and can wait. Also it's not that big of deal to me, I was simply inquiring if anyone knew a way to set the normal video mode to a higher frame rate than 60 fps.
Hi all.
I've been able to record in 1080p resolution at 120 fps through app called Ultracorder. As a bonus is encodes in H.265 codec which promises half of the byte rate when compared to the H.264 with similar quality.
Not sure if possible in free app (you can try) but I've been using paid version which after latest update allows to change fps and surprisingly I can set 240 fps (although it looks like 120 fps with doubling of the frames to reach 240).
Video looks super smooth and crisp when played at 25% speed.
No luck with higher resolutions, only 30 fps available :crying:
Looks like the 120fps on FHD is legit as there's notable difference when slowing down the vids on 60fps and 120fps. But the quality is still kind of bad lol. BTW Thanks.
Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
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Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
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I believe the stock camera app is recording 240fps at 720p. But in a very very bad quality and cannot zoom. (Quality is worse than the sony recording 960fps)
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Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
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Never mind. Thought you said Nexus 6.
peterko64 said:
Hi all.
I've been able to record in 1080p resolution at 120 fps through app called Ultracorder. As a bonus is encodes in H.265 codec which promises half of the byte rate when compared to the H.264 with similar quality.
Not sure if possible in free app (you can try) but I've been using paid version which after latest update allows to change fps and surprisingly I can set 240 fps (although it looks like 120 fps with doubling of the frames to reach 240).
Video looks super smooth and crisp when played at 25% speed.
No luck with higher resolutions, only 30 fps available :crying:
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Thanks for your post, I downloaded Ultracorder as well and made a video comparision between slow motion modes which I uploaded on Youtube and I´m not allowed to post because I have <10posts.
The internal slow motion camera always records on 720p 240fps with no options of changing the framerate, but you can choose the normal and wide angle lens. The wide angle lens footage looks worse than normal lens though.
In the Ultracorder App you can also choose 1080p with 120fps with the normal lens. It works fine and enhances the quality a little bit.
You can also choose 1080p 240fps but if you record with that setting, you get a file with 160fps and dropped frames. I thought maybe the memory write speed was too low, so I also tried recording it on my Sandisk Extreme MicroSD with the same result of 160fps.
In Ultracorder you can max. choose 30fps with the wide angle lens.
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The internal slow motion camera always records on 720p 240fps with no options of changing the framerate,.
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Are you sure this is true because my Nexus 6p actually gives you an option to choose 240 for slo more and it looks a lot smoother than the V30 slo mo. I'm pretty sure V30 only shoots in 120fps
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Are you sure this is true because my Nexus 6p actually gives you an option to choose 240 for slo more and it looks a lot smoother than the V30 slo mo. I'm pretty sure V30 only shoots in 120fps
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Yes, the footage is 240fps you can choose the playback rates
1/2
1/4
1/8
directly in the LG V30´s media player while
1/8* 240fps= 30fps playback rate
Also I inspected the file in windows and it was 240fps. My V30 runs on Android 8.0 security patch 1.9.18 I just received it yesterday
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Yes, the footage is 240fps you can choose the playback rates
1/2
1/4
1/8
directly in the LG V30´s media player while
1/8* 240fps= 30fps playback rate
Also I inspected the file in windows and it was 240fps. My V30 runs on Android 8.0 security patch 1.9.18 I just received it yesterday
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I realized why. Shooting in regular camera produces 240fps while shooting in wide angle mode only does 120. I'd been shooting slo mo in wide angle only.
And for some reason the new GCam (and the mods based on GCam v6.1) kinda ends up recording 1080p240 instead of 720p240 when you set it to 1/8th slow motions speed.... Even though i ONLY have a 720p240 entry in the media profiles, otherwise only 1080p120...
Playing that video then (which is generally already pretty damn dark) is also kinda laggy, so either camera or SoC arent capable of that
Could our lack of 1080p240 possibly be due to a hardware issue such as the write speed of the storage medium in use, or the method of connecting the camera to the SOC? I was thinking largely of these being essentially a computer at it's core, and if the storage devices aren't on a fast enough bus, it could lead to dropped frames. My other thought is if the camera is connected to a slower bus, then it would result in frames being dropped due to not being able to get the data transferred off the camera fast enough. Essentially a lack of bandwidth issue...