I have read on multiple reviews and sources that I can record at 1080p at 120 fps and at 720p at 240 fps. However, when I go into the setting for video recording and select either 1080p or 720p I only have the options to select 30 or 60 fps.
Only my slow motion option has the option for 120 or 240 fps.
Is anyone else having this issue or are these reviews and sources all somehow mistaken? The fps at which video recording can utilize is much more critical than the resolution it records at. For instance, I would much rather record at 1080p at 120 fps than at 4k at 30 fps.
It's not an issue. Either what you read was wrong or you misunderstood what was written.
1080p 30/60 normal video recording and 1080 120fps and 720p 240fps slow motion is what the Pixel 2s can do.
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It's not an issue. Either what you read was wrong or you misunderstood what was written.
1080p 30/60 normal video recording and 1080 120fps and 720p 240fps slow motion is what the Pixel 2s can do.
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Maybe the many many post and reviews I have read we're just not very clear on what they meant. But that's pretty much what I was expecting. Was having a hard time wondering how I could miss such an important setting. Hopey come out with some software that can utilize these fps settings that this phone is obviously capable of doing (since it currently does 120 fps at 1080p but only in slow motion).
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Hopey come out with some software that can utilize these fps settings that this phone is obviously capable of doing (since it currently does 120 fps at 1080p but only in slow motion).
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You do realize that you can record in slow mo and not actually edit the slow mo in, right? Just make the slow mo bracket super small, throw it at the very front of video or rear. Trim it out. Volla! 120fps 1080.
Another option is to use Filmic Pro. You can manually set resolution and fps.
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You do realize that you can record in slow mo and not actually edit the slow mo in, right? Just make the slow mo bracket super small, throw it at the very front of video or rear. Trim it out. Volla! 120fps 1080.
Another option is to use Filmic Pro. You can manually set resolution and fps.
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I tried this but the quality of video, seems to have something to do with the light exposure, suffers when in slow motion mode.
I don't want to pay 15$ for a camera app. I just want Google to release some software to really take advantage of the current hardware.
The camera is already so good and still has potential to be even better.
I love the phone though it's by far the most consistanly responsive Android I have ever had.
SamsungGalaxySDye said:
I tried this but the quality of video, seems to have something to do with the light exposure, suffers when in slow motion mode.
I don't want to pay 15$ for a camera app. I just want Google to release some software to really take advantage of the current hardware.
The camera is already so good and still has potential to be even better.
I love the phone though it's by far the most consistanly responsive Android I have ever had.
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That's natural for higher frame rates. The more frames, the more light that is needed.
There is no way around that except for manually adjusting exposure and ISO. Which can be done in Filmic.
What you seek is available to you.
What I seek is an update to the Google software, not a third party application that costs more money, because it's not sure a big deal that I want to spend more. I am patient and can wait. Also it's not that big of deal to me, I was simply inquiring if anyone knew a way to set the normal video mode to a higher frame rate than 60 fps.
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Ive noticed that the Galaxy Nexus can only record video at a choppy 24fps. I was wondering if there is a way to increase it to 30fps. This phones has more than enough power to do so and I'm not quite understanding why it is so low.
from what I had read of the specs on GSMArena, the camera is supposed to be capable of 30fps.
of course, GSMArena have been wrong before...
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This phones has more than enough power to do so and I'm not quite understanding why it is so low.
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Film runs at 24fps. Bluray also runs at 24fps to match the film so that you don't get any nasty 3:2 pull down or audio speed up due to frame rate conversion.
That's no reason why the Nexus should default to 24fps, but it does explain why the frame rate is present.
Just out of interest - when you go to the movie theatre do you complain that it's "choppy" because of the 24fps shutter?
People upgraded the Droid 3's video fps from 20 to 30 so it shouldn't be too hard to do for the Nexus.
im sure we'll see something when the dev community kicks in as the phone is released
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Just out of interest - when you go to the movie theatre do you complain that it's "choppy" because of the 24fps shutter?
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It's because film is recorded on proper 'film' which allows soft blurrs to occur. On a digital camera that has been converted into video duty, low frame rates makes things look like claymation (simply because the camera is taking 'photos').
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It's because film is recorded on proper 'film' which allows soft blurrs to occur. On a digital camera that has been converted into video duty, low frame rates makes things look like claymation (simply because the camera is taking 'photos').
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Makes no difference. Those "photos" still contain motion blur. What do you think the individual frames of film are?
Also many modern "films" are shot digitally at 24fps.
Even though 24fps is good enough for film, wanting to record at 30fps is not an unreasonable request. 30fps, or more specifically 29.976 fps is a VERY common framerate, in fact this has been the color NTSC video standard since 1953.
It definitely should be supported, as it gives recordings a certain "feel" just like the 24fps rate gives a certain "feel".
My guess is that someone will figure it out if they haven't already for this device like they have on other devices.
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Even though 24fps is good enough for film, wanting to record at 30fps is not an unreasonable request. 30fps, or more specifically 29.976 fps is a VERY common framerate, in fact this has been the color NTSC video standard since 1953.
It definitely should be supported, as it gives recordings a certain "feel" just like the 24fps rate gives a certain "feel".
My guess is that someone will figure it out if they haven't already for this device like they have on other devices.
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Oh, I agree, as I said in my post I was explaining why that "odd" frame rate was present, not arguing against 30fps being available.
I would expect to find 24, 25, and 30fps options. Not having my Nexus yet I wouldn't know.
It would also be nice if it supported 60fps at 720, but I haven't seen anything to confirm this.
I thought the specs listed 30fps @ 720p, 24fps @ 1080p. Not sure where I saw that, have to go look.
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Film runs at 24fps. Bluray also runs at 24fps to match the film so that you don't get any nasty 3:2 pull down or audio speed up due to frame rate conversion.
That's no reason why the Nexus should default to 24fps, but it does explain why the frame rate is present.
Just out of interest - when you go to the movie theatre do you complain that it's "choppy" because of the 24fps shutter?
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Movies are filmed with $100,000 cameras. They are always following a subject and use a lot of motion blur. With all of this, you cant see choppiness. You shouldn't give Samsung/Google excuses for poor performance. This is a $650 device coming out at the end of 2011, I expect top quality. Luckily this is a Nexus device so im assuming work could be done to fix this.
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People upgraded the Droid 3's video fps from 20 to 30 so it shouldn't be too hard to do for the Nexus.
im sure we'll see something when the dev community kicks in as the phone is released
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I don't have a Galaxy Nexus as im waiting for the Verizon version. I'm just trying to get this problem noticed so when I do get the phone I can fix it.
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Oh, I agree, as I said in my post I was explaining why that "odd" frame rate was present, not arguing against 30fps being available.
I would expect to find 24, 25, and 30fps options. Not having my Nexus yet I wouldn't know.
It would also be nice if it supported 60fps at 720, but I haven't seen anything to confirm this.
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Ahhh, understood... 60fps @ 720 would be pretty sweet as well.
All video settings (480P, 720P and 1080P) are set to 25fps and are not changeable from within the settings menu.
Im sure that it can be hacked to give more options but for now thats all you get out of the box.
1080P does look outstanding though with no choppyness at all.
Mark.
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All video settings (480P, 720P and 1080P) are set to 25fps and are not changeable from within the settings menu.
Im sure that it can be hacked to give more options but for now thats all you get out of the box.
1080P does look outstanding though with no choppyness at all.
Mark.
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Have you seen the Galaxy S2 and iPhone 4S videos? Now thats outstanding and smooth. I dont know why Samsung chose not to put the GS2 sensor in the Galaxy Nexus.
That can hopefully be changed in media_profiles.xml later.
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All video settings (480P, 720P and 1080P) are set to 25fps and are not changeable from within the settings menu.
Im sure that it can be hacked to give more options but for now thats all you get out of the box.
1080P does look outstanding though with no choppyness at all.
Mark.
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So the OP is talking rubbish then when saying only 24fps setting is available?
I did suspect that. I wouldn't have expected 24fps to have been available at all, so for me I would have considered it a bonus feature not something to be complained about.
It's interesting that there is not a 576p option, given that 480p at 25fps doesn't make any sense since it doesn't match any standard - I'm not sure any TVs would even support that. It should be 480p30 or 576p25.
Is it easy to access the media_profiles.xml? Im surprised no one has created any quality enhancements for video like what was done for the Galaxy S2. This camera is crap
anyone gotten anywhere w/ this yet?
Who cares? The GNex is awesome and if ANYTHING is possible on it, then the dev community will crack it and find it
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Just out of interest - when you go to the movie theatre do you complain that it's "choppy" because of the 24fps shutter?
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I do, and so does James Cameron.
Hi all.
I've been able to record in 1080p resolution at 120 fps through app called Ultracorder. As a bonus is encodes in H.265 codec which promises half of the byte rate when compared to the H.264 with similar quality.
Not sure if possible in free app (you can try) but I've been using paid version which after latest update allows to change fps and surprisingly I can set 240 fps (although it looks like 120 fps with doubling of the frames to reach 240).
Video looks super smooth and crisp when played at 25% speed.
No luck with higher resolutions, only 30 fps available :crying:
Looks like the 120fps on FHD is legit as there's notable difference when slowing down the vids on 60fps and 120fps. But the quality is still kind of bad lol. BTW Thanks.
Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
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Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
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I believe the stock camera app is recording 240fps at 720p. But in a very very bad quality and cannot zoom. (Quality is worse than the sony recording 960fps)
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Shame this phone is 2 generations ahead of my Nexus 6p but my Nexus 6p can do 240fps slow motion but the V30 appears incapable
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Never mind. Thought you said Nexus 6.
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Hi all.
I've been able to record in 1080p resolution at 120 fps through app called Ultracorder. As a bonus is encodes in H.265 codec which promises half of the byte rate when compared to the H.264 with similar quality.
Not sure if possible in free app (you can try) but I've been using paid version which after latest update allows to change fps and surprisingly I can set 240 fps (although it looks like 120 fps with doubling of the frames to reach 240).
Video looks super smooth and crisp when played at 25% speed.
No luck with higher resolutions, only 30 fps available :crying:
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Thanks for your post, I downloaded Ultracorder as well and made a video comparision between slow motion modes which I uploaded on Youtube and I´m not allowed to post because I have <10posts.
The internal slow motion camera always records on 720p 240fps with no options of changing the framerate, but you can choose the normal and wide angle lens. The wide angle lens footage looks worse than normal lens though.
In the Ultracorder App you can also choose 1080p with 120fps with the normal lens. It works fine and enhances the quality a little bit.
You can also choose 1080p 240fps but if you record with that setting, you get a file with 160fps and dropped frames. I thought maybe the memory write speed was too low, so I also tried recording it on my Sandisk Extreme MicroSD with the same result of 160fps.
In Ultracorder you can max. choose 30fps with the wide angle lens.
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The internal slow motion camera always records on 720p 240fps with no options of changing the framerate,.
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Are you sure this is true because my Nexus 6p actually gives you an option to choose 240 for slo more and it looks a lot smoother than the V30 slo mo. I'm pretty sure V30 only shoots in 120fps
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Are you sure this is true because my Nexus 6p actually gives you an option to choose 240 for slo more and it looks a lot smoother than the V30 slo mo. I'm pretty sure V30 only shoots in 120fps
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Yes, the footage is 240fps you can choose the playback rates
1/2
1/4
1/8
directly in the LG V30´s media player while
1/8* 240fps= 30fps playback rate
Also I inspected the file in windows and it was 240fps. My V30 runs on Android 8.0 security patch 1.9.18 I just received it yesterday
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Yes, the footage is 240fps you can choose the playback rates
1/2
1/4
1/8
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1/8* 240fps= 30fps playback rate
Also I inspected the file in windows and it was 240fps. My V30 runs on Android 8.0 security patch 1.9.18 I just received it yesterday
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I realized why. Shooting in regular camera produces 240fps while shooting in wide angle mode only does 120. I'd been shooting slo mo in wide angle only.
And for some reason the new GCam (and the mods based on GCam v6.1) kinda ends up recording 1080p240 instead of 720p240 when you set it to 1/8th slow motions speed.... Even though i ONLY have a 720p240 entry in the media profiles, otherwise only 1080p120...
Playing that video then (which is generally already pretty damn dark) is also kinda laggy, so either camera or SoC arent capable of that
Could our lack of 1080p240 possibly be due to a hardware issue such as the write speed of the storage medium in use, or the method of connecting the camera to the SOC? I was thinking largely of these being essentially a computer at it's core, and if the storage devices aren't on a fast enough bus, it could lead to dropped frames. My other thought is if the camera is connected to a slower bus, then it would result in frames being dropped due to not being able to get the data transferred off the camera fast enough. Essentially a lack of bandwidth issue...
I'm in the middle of using the pixel 2xl as the primary camera on a YouTube cooking show. Aside from the need for extra/adequate lighting - why shouldn't I just shoot everything in slow motion?
From what I can see the files aren't even twice as large as those shot in 1080p60. Which still makes them about 20% the size of 4k video (my math is most certainly terrible)
The kicker - is that the slow motion video when played at regular speed (I think it's 60fps) doesn't look any different than if I shot it at 1080p60 - again assuming the lighting is adequate. So with every take it seems like I get a regular and slow motion shot. I just have to render it both be ways. I thought there would be ghosting or blur but I'm not seeing any at 60fps.
I did not tested the 60 FPS for a while now but I remember the quality of the 60FPS was not so detailed.
There are a couple of videos on youtube like:
Test if it is fits for you. Maybe some of the latest patches fixed some of the quality loss.
I looked at several reviews of a50 and a70. All video examples has a problem. Autofocus can not find the optimal setting, so the video is jerky! Most bloggers did not pay attention to this moment! But this is not normal for a $ 485 phone. What do you think about it? Are there owners of the device? Maybe an update has already been released that fixes the situation? Example in youtube 6-iwSS_hX0Q in 5:37 (sorry, i cant permissions for publish links)
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I looked at several reviews of a50 and a70. All video examples has a problem. Autofocus can not find the optimal setting, so the video is jerky! Most bloggers did not pay attention to this moment! But this is not normal for a $ 485 phone. What do you think about it? Are there owners of the device? Maybe an update has already been released that fixes the situation? Example in youtube 6-iwSS_hX0Q in 5:37 (sorry, i cant permissions for publish links)
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Yes,seems to be issues with the cameras,no EIS as far as I know,the 32mp lens uses software to account for only really being 8mp. Im not a camera guy so don't know that much about it but most of what I've seen and read indicate the cameras aren't that good
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Yes,seems to be issues with the cameras,no EIS as far as I know,the 32mp lens uses software to account for only really being 8mp. Im not a camera guy so don't know that much about it but most of what I've seen and read indicate the cameras aren't that good
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Thanks fo reply! I means video camera only. Photo camera, in my opinion, is not bad. But the video, which is approaching, then moving away, is a real problem. I'm not ready to give $ 500 for the quality of the video, as if my hands were shaking. But I expect that the problem can be solved in one of the updates.
This is a stabilisation issue I think, not a focus one. Ideally the camera software could do some work to stabilising 1080p video using the spare/latent area from the 4K chip, but it would still require some heavy processing which perhaps the chipset is not up to?
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This is a stabilisation issue I think, not a focus one.
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May be, I incorrectly described the problem when I said about shaking hands. The frame in the video is approaching, then moving away. Then approaching again. That is looks as the zoom is not fixed. Poor stabilization may be an indirect cause of this behavior. That is, shaking may interfere with the correct setting of autofocus. But I am convinced that the actual reason is poor autofocus.
It's really simple.
4K video = no EIS
1080p video = EIS
As you can see in this review https://youtu.be/rwrDrG23gRA?t=344 (5:43) stabilization is just fine.
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4K video = no EIS
1080p video = EIS.
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That's what I was hoping (see my last post). Good to see someone showing 1080 recording while walking, which is sufficient for most users I suspect. To get stabilisation in 4K you either need a much larger raw chip resolution, or optical stabilisation (probably not on mid-range devices).
Andre
Here's another A70 1080p rear camera video, he tests many scenarios. Looks OK to me for this price range https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ju52xFjYz4
If you need to shoot a lot of high quality videos then get S10 which is twice the price. Mid range phones will never have camera as good as high end flagships, that's just impossible.
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It's really simple.
4K video = no EIS
1080p video = EIS
As you can see in this review https://youtu.be/rwrDrG23gRA?t=344 (5:43) stabilization is just fine.
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I'm not sure still. My example in start post shows 3 shooting modes:
1. 4k
2. 1080p
3. 1080p Wide angle lens
3rd shooting mode gives good quality only. The second mode is also a little jerky
p.s. I think, my xiaomi mi5 probably did not have that problem. But i just can not check it now. So I am unpleasantly surprised by this effect
Wider angle shooting always makes shots look steadier, regardless of any other technology. The more you zoom an image in, the more any camera shake is exaggerated.
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Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Samsung Galaxy S11 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Not really a fan of the 8K video quality especially at low (maxes out at 24fps) frame rates. What do you guys think?
It's.... fine. 24fps is cinema rate, so it's more intended to be used with a stabilized mount and slow panning, so that accounts for a lot of the jutter. Well, that, and YouTube's compression algorithms, but I won't hold that against the camera. 8K isn't likely to be really useful for a few years yet, so honestly I am fairly impressed the the quality is as good as it is when the camera is still.
Video capability is on par with iPhone 11, and blows Pixel out of the water. If you do a lot of video recording, this is currently the best Android device for that job.
I would say the video quality is quite good.
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Video capability is on par with iPhone 11, and blows Pixel out of the water. If you do a lot of video recording, this is currently the best Android device for that job.
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Keep dreaming! ??
I have taken video with this phone and the quality is very high and clear. I think you have a good resolution camera.
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I don't like its optimization, too highlighted colors
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and here ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgsCzfiOEkg
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and here ?
:rouler des yeux:
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Well done ?
Does anyone know or has tried to record 4k 60fps continuously.
What I mean to ask is, if recording 4k 60 fps, is their any limit to the record time or can you keep doing so until you run out of space or battery.
I'am coming from an Sony Xperia devices, on their there is no limit apart from the memory card or battery.
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Does anyone know or has tried to record 4k 60fps continuously.
What I mean to ask is, if recording 4k 60 fps, is their any limit to the record time or can you keep doing so until you run out of space or battery.
I'am coming from an Sony Xperia devices, on their there is no limit apart from the memory card or battery.
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space look's the limit...
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Thanks for your reply, so I take it there isn't a time recording limit. What about 8k recording?
wide angle cam stabilization test
here's a sample footage to test stabilization of the wide angle camera on a very bumpy trail. i say stabilization is excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEm5bgGoXkk
i think that Video capability is on par with iPhone 11 PRo, and blows Pixel out of the water. If you do a lot of video recording, this is currently the best Android phone.