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because it had some strange hardware problem when the volume was decreased to mute on its own as if were pressing minus constantly and when the volume was at 0 it started to vibrate nonstop. No it's not a software problem
Why did I get a refund instead of a new desire? Mainly because of 2 reasons.
1. The phone is useless in the sun. I couldn't even see who is calling. Beautiful beautiful 100 billions colors oled screen turns into void. No really I'd rather buy a device with 256 colors if these colors were plainly visible in the sun. Additionally I used to read books and with the oled screen I had to read white on black because of the battery life and this is annoying.
2. Battery life is just not bearable. Yes I'm using internet and what's why I bought it! Every day I had to think about battery and this is really boring. I had to stop my last.fm radio because 20 percent left in the middle of the day.
There are other problems but these two are the most important to me
It's a phone.
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It's a phone.
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flux said:
because it had some strange hardware problem when the volume was decreased to mute on its own as if were pressing minus constantly and when the volume was at 0 it started to vibrate nonstop. No it's not a software problem
Why did I get a refund instead of a new desire? Mainly because of 2 reasons.
1. The phone is useless in the sun. I couldn't even see who is calling. Beautiful beautiful 100 billions colors oled screen turns into void. No really I'd rather buy a device with 256 colors if these colors were plainly visible in the sun. Additionally I used to read books and with the oled screen I had to read white on black because of the battery life and this is annoying.
2. Battery life is just not bearable. Yes I'm using internet and what's why I bought it! Every day I had to think about battery and this is really boring. I had to stop my last.fm radio because 20 percent left in the middle of the day.
There are other problems but these two are the most important to me
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1. having auto brightness on ive never had any problems wit the screen
2. at the end of the day its a phone, not a notebook, so if ur using it just for the internet then u should exchange it for a notebook, cuz no phone ever made would last any longer if u were using internet for couple hours
normally when im at half hour break the phone uses about 10% of the battery using internet and listening to music, in general phone lasts a day or a day and a half, and im happy with it.
1. Use auto brightness OR put brightness control app shortcut which you can change brightness quickly.
My setting:
brightness at 10% (LOW, for indoor)
brightness at 40% (NORMAL)
brightness at 70% (HIGH)
I always use LOW and my eyes is pretty happy with that.
2. With correct settings you can have up to 2 days with medium - high usage.
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2. Battery life is just not bearable. Yes I'm using internet and what's why I bought it! Every day I had to think about battery and this is really boring. I had to stop my last.fm radio because 20 percent left in the middle of the day.
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Battery life is a joke on this device, I consider returning it too because of this.
I don't want to read any explanation and advices to use it as dumb phone!!!
My Omnia II could last 2 days with heavy usage pattern, this device dies in the middle of the day!!!
gogol said:
1. Use auto brightness OR put brightness control app shortcut which you can change brightness quickly.
My setting:
brightness at 10% (LOW, for indoor)
brightness at 40% (NORMAL)
brightness at 70% (HIGH)
I always use LOW and my eyes is pretty happy with that.
2. With correct settings you can have up to 2 days with medium - high usage.
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what's what I'm talking about. You have to think about your your power settings all the time. You have to stop this, screw that, get used with your eyes and so on.
NO this is not just a phone. If I wanted a phone I'd be still using my old siemens that works for weeks with no recharge.
But I'm not going to start a flame with fan boys. You like it - go for it. But don't tell me nobody warned you if you're about to buy it.
btw analog audio quality is also bad. You can hear periodic noise pattern.
@OP
Judging from your couple of posts here since joining, it's clear that the Desire has not impressed you. Hope you're able to find another device that's capable for your needs.
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Battery life is a joke on this device, I consider returning it too because of this.
I don't want to read any explanation and advices to use it as dumb phone!!!
My Omnia II could last 2 days with heavy usage pattern, this device dies in the middle of the day!!!
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People need to relax with slamming the device because of battery life. There are several reasons your battery life may be terrible.
1. Your battery is not yet optimally conditioned yet. Cycle it through charges for several weeks and it'll improve significantly.
2. Your device is new so you naturally play with it all the time for absolutely no reason. That kills your battery life too.
Nobody would suggest you use this smartphone as a dumbphone. But do you really need Twitter, Friendstream, Weather, News, and Stocks widgets to all be active on your homescreen and autoupdating every hour? Is Google Maps Latitude really necessary? Does GPS and WIFI have to be constantly on? Is 100% brightness really necessary when auto-brightness looks just fine?
Take a more conservative approach to widgets and auto-updating and that will go a long way.
Btw, if you consider the battery life of the Desire to be bad, consider yourself lucky that you didn't go for the Xperia X10. That's a smartphone that you seriously have to use as a dumbphone to get through the day.
I'm a heavy user, and my Desire is at about 15% by the end of the day. What are you doing that's draining 100% by the afternoon?
Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with the Desire.
Battery life imho is about the same as my Hero or Diamond or Omnia.
They all last a day with heavy usage. And when you leave the phone alone it will last two days.
Especially when using a lot of services that constantly use the internet. Those things use loads of power.
As for the sun, I use a anti glare protector now and that works great. I don't find the Desire extra hard to read outside when compared to the other phones I had. They all reflected so much in direct sunlight, they were all unusable. Without the anti glare that is, but anti glare us at the cost of quality.
Anyway, perhaps its best for you to wait. Wait for a phone with super amoled screen, bigger battery and more efficient chip.
But battery life is a common problem with electronics these days. Smartphones, laptops, netbooks and tablets all are build around the battery. A constant tradeoff between battery and power consumption. Endurance or performance.
Until we see some new battery technologies arise the battery will always be the weak part. Perhaps that super fast charging new Toshiba battery might find it's way into phones soon. At least charging it will be super fast
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because it had some strange hardware problem when the volume was decreased to mute on its own as if were pressing minus constantly and when the volume was at 0 it started to vibrate nonstop. No it's not a software problem
Why did I get a refund instead of a new desire? Mainly because of 2 reasons.
1. The phone is useless in the sun. I couldn't even see who is calling. Beautiful beautiful 100 billions colors oled screen turns into void. No really I'd rather buy a device with 256 colors if these colors were plainly visible in the sun. Additionally I used to read books and with the oled screen I had to read white on black because of the battery life and this is annoying.
2. Battery life is just not bearable. Yes I'm using internet and what's why I bought it! Every day I had to think about battery and this is really boring. I had to stop my last.fm radio because 20 percent left in the middle of the day.
There are other problems but these two are the most important to me
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Well, I had same problems for a first two days. Phone was perfect, only screen wasn't visible in the sun, and also battery was empty in 5 - 6 hours. But then I played a little with settings and installed a Brightness Profiles application for a screen. Now when Im inside I have 15% Brightness and when Im outside I get 80% brightness with one click. Now screen is very well seen outside, inside it saves a lot of battery and now battery (with additional settings + task manager) lasts 1.5 days with a lot of usage or 2 days with normal usage. I had a lot of phones, but this one is perfect IMO.
btw I've just found in the device spec
Code:
Automatische Reduzierung der Klingeltonlautstärke, sobald das Handy in die Hand genommen wird
Because of this beautiful feature they got their treasure back. They have removed useful features from n1 (like trackball or active noise cancellation) and put useless ones into the desire. Way to go htc, way to go.
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Why did I returned my desire
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Why should anyone care?
flux said:
btw I've just found in the device spec
Code:
Automatische Reduzierung der Klingeltonlautstärke, sobald das Handy in die Hand genommen wird
Because of this beautiful feature they got their treasure back. They have removed useful features from n1 (like trackball or active noise cancellation) and put useless ones into the desire. Way to go htc, way to go.
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another important thing. They also managed to remove charging stripes so it is only possible to charge it with an usb cable. Now think how long will last the miniusb connector if you connect/disconnect cable once per day.
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Hehe, let's not get mean here....
Here's what I don't get though: Why did you buy the Desire in the first place?
Certainly, you've read about the battery life. It's mentioned in every review.
And certainly, you knew about the charging contacts if you've seen pictures of the device.
Regarding the screen in direct sunlight, I don't get this argument. My last device that had decent sunlight legibility was my Compaq iPaq over 10 years ago when the screens were not backlit. I think the light came from the borders of the screen. Is there a single device available right now that provides comfortable outdoors viewing experience over long period of time?
It's almost like buying the Desire and then complaining that it doesn't have a hardware keyboard...
I read books on my Desire and I have a black screen with white text, not an issue for me. Should have got a decent app. Also re brightness, try turning the levels up if you are in a situation where you cant see the screen.
Battery gets better over a period of weeks, but like any device, if you use it smartly then the issue is minimised.
Also re the first comment......?
I think your post suggests you are not ready for a big boys toy and should invest in a pretend phone that flips up and makes sounds when you press the button so you can look cool to all your 7 year old friends at school. You will be pleased to know that you won't even have to splash out hundreds of pounds or be tied into a long contract with this option as the 99p shop often has a supply, if however 99p is too much, i'm sure you can sneak one into your pocket.
Oh and as a bonus, the screen will not be affected by sunlight! Awsome!
Also, if you would like lot's of unlimited free calls between you and your friends, open up your fridge, consume two yougharts and then attach some string to both ends of the cups and there you go! Free calls!
Now run back to the sandpit and leave the grown ups to have a mature discussion.
Good boy.
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@OP
Btw, if you consider the battery life of the Desire to be bad, consider yourself lucky that you didn't go for the Xperia X10. That's a smartphone that you seriously have to use as a dumbphone to get through the day.
I'm a heavy user, and my Desire is at about 15% by the end of the day. What are you doing that's draining 100% by the afternoon?
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If I stop my Exchange sync in business hours (every 15 minutes) then I'll lost power after 15 hours (7:00-22:00) which is acceptable and similar to your experience (I charge every night).
But with my Exchange sync ON (I need it!) it dies very quickly.
Omnia II with push exchange tend to loose about 40% of charge during business day (push email vs. 15 minutes checks). It was approximately 4-5 times better.
Desire is sooooooooo much better device/OS/software combination that I'd never like to go back, the only drawback is this battery draining.
No, I don't sync Flickr, No, my battery is not super-new (3 weeks already), 'Always on' is disabled
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This made me piss my pants!
Well said!
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This made me piss my pants!
Well said!
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I disagree, the first post of this thread may be useful for someone.
I remember skipping some devices myself based on their known issues and I'm glad someone warned others not to waste money and time on them (for instance GPS lags in HTC Touch Pro etc.).
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Hehe, let's not get mean here....
Here's what I don't get though: Why did you buy the Desire in the first place?
Certainly, you've read about the battery life. It's mentioned in every review.
And certainly, you knew about the charging contacts if you've seen pictures of the device.
Regarding the screen in direct sunlight, I don't get this argument. My last device that had decent sunlight legibility was my Compaq iPaq over 10 years ago when the screens were not backlit. I think the light came from the borders of the screen. Is there a single device available right now that provides comfortable outdoors viewing experience over long period of time?
It's almost like buying the Desire and then complaining that it doesn't have a hardware keyboard...
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fan boy detected.
I preordered the desire on 17 February yfi what reviews were available on that day?
And saying that one can get experience just reading about something is also stupid.
I don't get how some batteries seem so bad? I'm on 3 days and 14 hours since last plugged in. I did loads of surfing, some calls, about 30 photos, 20 texts, and I'm at 12% left. One thing is true, it took 2 or 3 weeks before battery got so good. Was terrible for first 3 or 4 cycles.
follow this steps for some reason if u experience battery drain in mango
1.- Turn off the phone and pulled out the sim card.
2.- Turn on the phone without the sim card. (Why?, eerr...i don't know!)
3.- Turn off the phone again and reinstalled the sim card.
4.- Finally, turn on the phone.
Please let us know if it worked for you
I've just done it.
I'm a bit skeptical if this method actually improves anything...
Let's see tomorrow how it goes...
I'll post the result here.
The best way to resolve battery drain issues is by resetting Mango after its flashed. I did that with mine and the battery stopped pouring out like a rain drain to just sipping a fine wine.
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The best way to resolve battery drain issues is by resetting Mango after its flashed. I did that with mine and the battery stopped pouring out like a rain drain to just sipping a fine wine.
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yes resetting works...but the prob is sometimes the drain comes back...
apparently it has to do with push email and connections..
especially yahoo mail.....maybe the telco is not playing friendly with this one
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The best way to resolve battery drain issues is by resetting Mango after its flashed. I did that with mine and the battery stopped pouring out like a rain drain to just sipping a fine wine.
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confirm, it works.
Data connection is the problem of battery drain if we've got data connection off, wifi off, location and bluetooth off battery drain is minimal, I can say 1-2% per 5/6 hours in sleep (during night) with data connection (during sllep) about 5-10% in the same time
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The best way to resolve battery drain issues is by resetting Mango after its flashed. I did that with mine and the battery stopped pouring out like a rain drain to just sipping a fine wine.
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I did that anyways cause everything was amuck after the update. My HD7 gets like 4 hours battery life while browsing on a full 3G connection. And that's not a 4 hours of having the screen on/using it, either... Already tried a different battery, no change.
Yes, the data connection drains a colossal ton of battery, not helped by this phone's small battery size.
They need to add quick toggles for GPS, Bluetooth and stuff like that. 3rd party apps clutter up my app menu so I don't install those. Just need a quick toggle somewhere, or add the command to the voice recognition system ("GPS Off/On", "Bluetooth Off/On", etc.).
It's much easier for me to manage battery on the Vibrant because Turning off Superfluous features like WiFi, GPS, and Blue Tooth are only a swipe and a tap away. Not so much on WP7. I never turn off my data connection, so I'm confused why Microsoft added a Data Connections app, but nothing for GPS, WiFi, or BT. Just need to add in some toggles somewhere... that are easily accessible.
I don't understand how you get 4 hours when I play music/podcasts all day at work, text all day, use apps, and go online & my HD7 makes it through at least my 9 hour work day
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apparently sim issues in the OS cause battery drain problems
THis is a problem found , even in IOS and android
Wp7 should be no exception
I own a Focus and I started a thread exactly because I found a similar issue. However, the "drain" wasn't present in 7660 (Mango beta).
Indeed, data connections have a 10-20% negative impact on battery life compared to beta (at least on my Focus), but the heaviest drain I got from apps that run in the background. Once I disabled those, the boost is more than noticeable.
I will also try what OP described. Btw, how/where did you get to that?
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I own a Focus and I started a thread exactly because I found a similar issue. However, the "drain" wasn't present in 7660 (Mango beta).
Indeed, data connections have a 10-20% negative impact on battery life compared to beta (at least on my Focus), but the heaviest drain I got from apps that run in the background. Once I disabled those, the boost is more than noticeable.
I will also try what OP described. Btw, how/where did you get to that?
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well i did it works, i am not sure how but such a procedure , may reset something in the phone
maybe some issues with signal.
Well for me it did nothing...
@EnderPsp:
Last week I disable the apps that are running in the background and I noticed a small boost in battery perfomence.
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Well for me it did nothing...
@EnderPsp:
Last week I disable the apps that are running in the background and I noticed a small boost in battery perfomence.
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i also did this at the same time
refer here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302541
running the taiwan SEA rom
flashed it a few weeks ago
Tried restoring in zune to nodo
it seems microsoft does not want u to go back to nodo
anyone can confirm?
the phone restarts with the black screen of the phone connected to computer picture . Says restoring , then throws up an error and restarts to normal
But something peculiar happened. My battery life improved after this error message. not sure why..
has it got something to do with zune "resetting" ot "modifying the phone??
FiyaFleye said:
I don't understand how you get 4 hours when I play music/podcasts all day at work, text all day, use apps, and go online & my HD7 makes it through at least my 9 hour work day
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Either you are lying, or you are mistaken and are talking about another phone.
Because Mango won't last that long.
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I don't understand how you get 4 hours when I play music/podcasts all day at work, text all day, use apps, and go online & my HD7 makes it through at least my 9 hour work day
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I never said I understood. I just know that the battery drains ridiculously fast and I lost over well 10% an hour, easily. When it's at 67% the battery saver says 2 hours remaining, and it's not lying. It has worse battery life than a cheap laptop.
Unusable as a daily driver because it dies way too damn fast.
I wouldn't call it horrible on my Focus, but it is definitely more of an issue than it was with NoDo. Following the same usage patterns as before I am lucky to get 12 hours out of a charge, where on NoDo it would just barely last through a 16 hour day. So I either charge it midway through the day, or don't use it as much. Right now I'm not using it as much .
I found change the Brightness to low instead of Automatic saves a lot of battery usage, I am so surprised.
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I found change the Brightness to low instead of Automatic saves a lot of battery usage, I am so surprised.
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Yeah but in daylight you can't really see it then. Which is too bad.
I actually would've thought that the Focus would have a better battery as they have the AMOLED going on.
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I found change the Brightness to low instead of Automatic saves a lot of battery usage, I am so surprised.
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I found that out many months ago. I don't know if it makes a difference on all phones, but it significant on the Focus. Unfortunately, my Mango battery drain observations are with the brightness already on Low.
The Focus has a Super AMOLED screen, which has 5x the outdoor visibility and 20x the viewing angles of the HD7. That may work for that phone, but it would make the HD7 unusable for me outdoors; and I'm assuming many other people. It only has an LCD screen. With automatic brightness I can already see my own reflection in the screen more clearly than the actual phone/OS images...
"The Focus has a Super AMOLED screen, which has 5x the outdoor visibility and 20x the viewing angles of the HD7. That may work for that phone, but it would make the HD7 unusable for me outdoors; and I'm assuming many other people. It only has an LCD screen. With automatic brightness I can already see my own reflection in the screen more clearly than the actual phone/OS images..."
this makes me feel better that I picked Samsung phone, I was regretting Samsung focus because It randomly reboot and also after 10-15 mins HD video recording, I suspect it is quality issue.
Im seriously considering returning this item. I just bough the moto 360 yesterday and im getting unaceptable battery life. I see people on this forum able to use the watch for a full day and it still got battery while mine is struggling to run for 6 hours straight. Right now my watch has been running for 4 hours and a half and its down to 44%. I have tried every troubleshoot,I have resetted my watch 4 times now,I have cleared the cache of my application and reinstalled the whole thing. I even tried running it without any application installed, completely stock and my battery is still draining like crazy.
Im not using it that much. Right now I have insta weather installed,skymaster skin and wear battery stats and thats about it. I love this watch but i cant deal with this kind of ****. I consider myself pretty good with hardware and new accesories, and I cant believe how much time ive wasted trying to make this thing worked. Is there something to do really?
Try to use for is purpose for notifications if you bought yesterday and do all that things how are you going yo know which is is battery life with a normal use ?
The panel is who use al the battery , if u use ir forma notification you would get a day battery like a phone if you use youre phone for 4 hours you would drain your battery is battery life of your phone of 4 hours ? NO.
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Try to use for is purpose for notifications if you bought yesterday and do all that things how are you going yo know which is is battery life with a normal use ?
The panel is who use al the battery , if u use ir forma notification you would get a day battery like a phone if you use youre phone for 4 hours you would drain your battery is battery life of your phone of 4 hours ? NO.
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I have some difficulty understanding , but from what I can see you are telling me im using my watch to much? this is not the case. I just got back from work, and in 3 hours of work I lost about 30% of battery. this mean that my watch would be dead after 10 hours of small to none-use of my watch. I always see people talk about how theirs can last 18-24hours on average usage, are these people simply lying?
What do you have install ?
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What do you have install ?
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Insta weather
Skymaster clock
wear battery stats
all the rest is stock.
When im looking at the percentage of the usage of each app by google wear app ( nothing is showing with wear battery stats) it shows this
skymaster : 14%
Screen : 14%
Android wear : 9%
unknown Icon : 7%
Idle : 4%
Bluetooth : 3%
......
Try unistall Skymaster and instaweather
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Try unistall Skymaster and instaweather
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I already did try like I said, Ive tried running the watch stock and it was still losing battery life. Ive read somewhere that I need to completely empty my battery a couple of time before getting better?
Yes it will get better battery bit is not magicall remember
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I already did try like I said, Ive tried running the watch stock and it was still losing battery life. Ive read somewhere that I need to completely empty my battery a couple of time before getting better?
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Also, as of right now, I keep losing contact with my watch. Bluetooth is fine and everything since I can change the look of my clock and settings.. but from time to time im losing connection with hangout and it do not send the messages to my watch.......
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Yes it will get better battery bit is not magicall remember
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Yea well, I still have 12 days left to try it and see if it gets better, If not im gonna have to return this watch. I need at least 10 hours.. I mean comon this is ridiculous getting 5 to 8 hours per charge.. Im doing 20 hours of heavy usage on my LG g3 right now so the watch would die on me 3 to 4 time by the time my phone die... this is ridiculous
That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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Thanks for the information! Did you meant skymaster pilot watch face? i bough it for like 1$ but it looks like it is the biggest battery drainer
Lexite said:
Thanks for the information! Did you meant skymaster pilot watch face? i bough it for like 1$ but it looks like it is the biggest battery drainer
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Use the new facer app and watchmaker no battery draining problems here.
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FallN said:
That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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One more tip that works well when you don't need to use your watch at night power it down and back on when you wake up and if you don't need notifications from your watch put it in aeroplane mode that turns bluetooth off big drainer when you need it take it out of aeroplane mode I get nearly 3 days use like this.
FallN said:
That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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Just be aware that theater mode seems to turn off vibrations.
"...If you care about battery life:"? It's good advice, however do you hear yourself? What you are basically saying is "don't use the features, shut it all down and use it only to look at the time (ahem, just get $35 timex if that is the case). That's kinda nuts for a product that is targeted to the general consumer. Motorola (or Lenovo or Google?) have a marginal product here at best. Thats bad because the smartwatch has been with us now for a number of years, the battery should be a lot better - especially at this fairly high price point. How many people have returned the 360 after a few days because the battery life is crap in real world use? I'm going to bet many did, unless they are like us tinkerers, programmers and devs here... Nobody and I mean nobody is going to know to do the the things you have outlined to "save" the battery. Consumers are just going to use it, show it off and load whatever is available on the app store..
I've said it before on these forums and I say it again... We are paying to beta test this watch for Motorola. The battery life is horrific and Motorola know it. It is a "toy" admittedly a cool one at that. But frankly... All of us 1st gen owners who are sticking it out should be getting coupons for a deep discount on gen 2.
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"...If you care about battery life:"? It's good advice, however do you hear yourself? What you are basically saying is "don't use the features, shut it all down and use it only to look at the time (ahem, just get $35 timex if that is the case). That's kinda nuts for a product that is targeted to the general consumer. Samsung have a marginal product here at best. Thats bad because the smartwatch has been with us now for a number of years, the battery should be a lot better - especially at this fairly high price point. How many people have returned the 360 after a few days because the battery life is crap in real world use? I'm going to bet many did, unless they are like us tinkerers, programmers and devs here... Nobody and I mean nobody is going to know to do the the things you have outlined to "save" the battery. Consumers are just going to use it, show it off and load whatever is available on the app store..
I've said it before on these forums and I say it again... We are paying to beta test this watch for Samsung. The battery life is horrific and Samsung know it. It is a "toy" and a cool one at that. But frankly... All of us 1st gen owners who are sticking it out should be getting coupons for a deep discount on gen 2.
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same here i bought it tried to learn or play with the watch all day not all day few hour after it died but i didn't thought it was watch defective or w/e. its my own fault because i turned it on non-stop. i give it a normal usage a day after i bought it pretty much live to 20% on 9 hour on few times changing face theme and showing off to friends lol,, i think this watch will last 15hrs max on any heavy usage. those who said 1 or 2 day they're definitely lying or encouraging people to buy the watch or can be Motorola's hired scum bags
Guys, I am constantly getting at least 40 percent left at the end of my 12 hours day.
Using it for notifications only, as intended, plus some weather checking and replies by voice to incoming messages.
Ambient OFF
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same here i bought it tried to learn or play with the watch all day not all day few hour after it died but i didn't thought it was watch defective or w/e. its my own fault because i turned it on non-stop. i give it a normal usage a day after i bought it pretty much live to 20% on 9 hour on few times changing face theme and showing off to friends lol,, i think this watch will last 15hrs max on any heavy usage. those who said 1 or 2 day they're definitely lying or encouraging people to buy the watch or can be Motorola's hired scum bags
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While that post is pretty much in need of a complete rewrite, I will agree that I have no idea who these people are that are getting 2 days out of there watch on a single charge. I End the day at about 30% which is great, but it would be practically dead by morning if I wouldn't charge it over night.
I use InstaWeather and have no issues on battery life. Have you updated to the latest firmware? I can easily get a full day with plenty of battery life left at the end of the day. I'd return it for a different one. You may have issues. After the first update to 4.4, battery life for everyone went up dramatically.
Hello all,
I recently purchased a LG G4 Back In July , on Verizon, switching over from A Galaxy Note 3 (Tmobile). Honestly I really really like the phone, but I think the battery life is pitiful for a $700 dollar "Flagship" phone. I mean not once has it ever lasted the full day. I had to buy a spare battery kit, with 2 batteries, and days when im out from 6am to late at night, I go through 2 batteries, and have to put the 3rd one in. I mean , this is simply unacceptable for a phone like this.
Also, the camera is excellent WHEN it works. A lot of times, it doesn't take the picture right away, there is a delay, and many times it falls out of focus. This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
I am hoping there is a way to fix these 2 issues, mainly the battery issue though because it is awful in my opinion. Is there any tweaks or fixes for these issues?
You've barely given any relevant information other than how unhappy you are with the device, so I would suggest that you elaborate on that.
You could inform us if you're a heavy/light user, if you keep NFC, LTE, Bluetooth, Syncing, Wi-Fi, on during the whole day or maybe if you are used to 100% brightness display. Maybe you should check in your settings what is draining your battery and provide us the info.
I'm having a pretty good experience with the phone so far. It surely lasts a whole day with 3:30 to 4h SoT. I don't even need/have a spare battery.
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This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
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One person having an issue doesn't mean it's not a great camera. You'll find it's likely still the best flagship camera of any OEM.
Battery use is so dependent on which apps you run, which mods you have, how often the screen is on, what brightness, signal strength, wifi, bluetooth, etc etc etc...
I came from a galaxy s3 and reckon the battery on g4 is awesome. I use it solidly on internet for 2 hrs a day (to and from work), check messages etc through the day, usually internet at lunch. And then evening time check facebook etc over WiFi infront of telly.
I unplug at 6am and plug in around 11pm with around 3% left. I bought a 2nd battery and only needed to use it twice. It has to be how you're using it.
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13 hours on battery for me today and still 71% left. Light usage but it does illustrate that the battery life can be excellent.
itm said:
13 hours on battery for me today and still 71% left. Light usage but it does illustrate that the battery life can be excellent.
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of course, you can get excellent battery life on every smartphone - just put it in aeroplane mode..
I get MAX 3h of SOT time on my G4 - this is with fixed brightness at 65% (at all times) and only wifi and 3g enabled (NFC, bluetooth and everything else is turned off all the time)
to be fair I have yet to own a smartphone that lasts me more than 4h SOT..
the thing that annoys me the most is the broken knock code used to unlock the phone - it works 20% of the time at best
its a completely broken feature LG has not properly addressed since launch of the device (I am on V10e software)
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I recently purchased a LG G4 Back In July , on Verizon, switching over from A Galaxy Note 3 (Tmobile).
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There have been numerous firmware updates since. Have you ever performed a full factory reset after getting those updates ?
If the answer is no, then this is one potential reason for poor battery life. What you could try is to clear the system cache in recovery. Note, i said system cache not apps cache. Idea here is when updates come in there could be conflicts and it causes the system to work harder. clearing system cache might help, if it does not then the only option is a factory reset and then a manual install.
not restore. You install apps in batches, monitor, then install more and so on. You can restore contacts etc. but apps themselves will have to be reinstalled. Sometimes apps go rogue and have to be reinstalled. Its hard to tell which app is causing the issue. Otherwise you could just reinstall whatever app that seems to be taking up more than it should be.
Honestly I really really like the phone, but I think the battery life is pitiful for a $700 dollar "Flagship" phone. I mean not once has it ever lasted the full day. I had to buy a spare battery kit, with 2 batteries, and days when im out from 6am to late at night, I go through 2 batteries, and have to put the 3rd one in. I mean , this is simply unacceptable for a phone like this.
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What are you doing on your phone ? mention apps.
How do you access the net. How good is your signal. What are you doing when you access the net.
Also, the camera is excellent WHEN it works. A lot of times, it doesn't take the picture right away, there is a delay, and many times it falls out of focus. This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
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What types of shots are these. It can happen with portraits some times. It will focus on the background behind the person instead of the person and the face becomes softer and the background very sharp.
For this set focus little above the chest instead of the face. If they are wearing dark clothing this will cause other issues so focus on something else at equal distance that isn't dark.
Always check the shot at the pixel level soon after you took it. Rather than at the end of the day.
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of course, you can get excellent battery life on every smartphone - just put it in aeroplane mode..
I get MAX 3h of SOT time on my G4 - this is with fixed brightness at 65% (at all times) and only wifi and 3g enabled (NFC, bluetooth and everything else is turned off all the time)
to be fair I have yet to own a smartphone that lasts me more than 4h SOT..
the thing that annoys me the most is the broken knock code used to unlock the phone - it works 20% of the time at best
its a completely broken feature LG has not properly addressed since launch of the device (I am on V10e software)
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Just to clarify: I had everything turned on for those 13 hours - wifi/data/bluetooth/GPS. I also made 2 phone calls and did a bit of Chromecasting using the BT Sport app for a couple of hours. Or to put it another way, I didn't take any measures at all to preserve battery life.
I used to complain just like you're doing OP ( @dredmentia ) and fixed it all with a Zerolemon battery .
Is the phone bulky/no leather back/not easy to handle... , it sure is but if battery life is crucial then it gotta get fixed.
End my day anywhere between 7 to 13 hours of sot depending on WiFi or 4g and high CPU freqs, tried light usage and hit 3 days with 12 hours sot. Snap/insta/twit/fb/periscope/... Nothing kills this battery in a day.
When and if we get a kernel I'll move back to factory battery at least then I know I'm in control of how CPU works coz while optimizing the phone for wakelocks that's the only thing I have no control over...
As for now I'm just trying to burn thru this battery every day so I can charge it every night...
Last phone was a Z3 Sony and that really grabbed my attention with its battery life in stock form, almost too perfect, Almost.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01181ODJI/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
This is what your talking about? Looks like a pretty nice battery.
LG G4 Battery Case, ZeroLemon LG G4 8500mAh TriCell Extended Battery + Soft TPU Full Edge Protection Case (Compatible with all LG G4 variants) (4897010519648)
It works with the USB charger that came with the phone ?
Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Then maybe something is wrong with the phone. I got also 4-5hr SoT.
It can't be just 2hr.
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Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Did you not see my earlier post ?
Answer everything asked in full.
So my pixel 3 XL is arriving on November 1st (UK) and I'm curious about the battery.
Of course I know the phone is new, takes time to bed in, and for adaptive battery to work it's magic - however, I've read and watched videos on YouTube about how the battery isn't quite as good as the pixel 2 XL, which I find surprising.
I understand that the battery is a tiny bit smaller, but with the more efficient sd845 I would have thought it'd more than offset the loss of the smaller battery size. In quite a few comparisons they're saying the phone hits 0 much faster than the pixel 2 XL.
So for those of you with the phone, what are your own anecdotal feelings on this?
so far, havent had much time to use the phone without it being charged on pixel stand.
I did leave it off the charger since yesterday, and it is on par or better than with my pixel 2 xl. right now it has 60% with 2h 20m of screen time, was off charger for approx. 14 hours, just had it plugged into computer for a few minutes to do a backup.
Doing just what I normally do (email, web, feed, etc), though I did watch a couple 4K UHD videos on youtube for about 20 minutes.
I charged mine fully, and then non-stop used it right off the full charge since I just got it. I got over 6 hours SOT with 20% left. This was all while the phone was being set up, syncing, and being constantly played with. If I can get over 6 hours SOT a day, and still have juice left I'm quite happy with it.
My battery life is almost exactly the same as what I got on my 2 XL. I'm good with that. It still would've been nice to get a little better battery performance. Also, my phone shut down last night at 5% battery left. Not cool. I'm gonna see if it shuts down early again tonight and if it does I'll have to send it back. I also noticed that the battery meter is getting stuck on certain percentages and then skipping a percentage here and there, just like my 6p, Pixel XL and 2 XL did. Must be a Google thing.
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I charged mine fully, and then non-stop used it right off the full charge since I just got it. I got over 6 hours SOT with 20% left. This was all while the phone was being set up, syncing, and being constantly played with. If I can get over 6 hours SOT a day, and still have juice left I'm quite happy with it.
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Ok I'm happy with that. I love the battery on my pixel 2 XL, and it sounds comparable if a tiny bit better than what I currently get in stock.
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My battery life is almost exactly the same as what I got on my 2 XL. I'm good with that. It still would've been nice to get a little better battery performance. Also, my phone shut down last night at 5% battery left. Not cool. I'm gonna see if it shuts down early again tonight and if it does I'll have to send it back. I also noticed that the battery meter is getting stuck on certain percentages and then skipping a percentage here and there, just like my 6p, Pixel XL and 2 XL did. Must be a Google thing.
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That sounds like a calibration issue if anything, few charge cycles should help I would have thought
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Ok I'm happy with that. I love the battery on my pixel 2 XL, and it sounds comparable if a tiny bit better than what I currently get in stock.
That sounds like a calibration issue if anything, few charge cycles should help I would have thought
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Well I've just charged it once so maybe it'll get better. Every Google phone I've owned has had a battery meter that sticks on percentages here and there so I'm not looking for that to change. I just hope it doesn't keep shutting down early because that's something I'll send it back for.
Take this with a grain of salt as I do not have a sim card and only use as a media device but battery seems pretty good. At least on par with my iPhone XS Max which has one hell of a battery in terms of power consumption. Though with the pixel I probably get lower than average standby drain due to not having cellular.
Battery life is just OK I think. It gets me through a day with moderate use but not sure yet if it is better or even with the 2 XL.
Battery gets me through the day. It gets me through the day and more if I drive somewhere since my car mount has wireless charging built in.
Battery life for me so far is great. I'm sitting at 18% at midnight after being off the charger since 630am with just over 6hrs of screen on time.
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Its just okay for me... I think I got better on my 2XL so far. Maybe 4-4 1/2 hours of SOT if I'm lucky... right now i'm at 80% with 38 min
Mark me down for about 6 hours SOT on average daily after about 4 days of usage.
I try to goto Greenify immediately to see the list of "who's talking to their mothership in the background".
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I read the always "ON" display dragged the battery down and did not "really" add to the phone so much. . . . Is it 'on' by default ? . . . . I mean, if you're staring at the screen "that much", well . . . .
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( for those with root ), Greenify made my last setup last more than two days / almost three ! . Subjective as to what need to always "run".
Battery has been pretty much a disappointment. It is nowhere near a One+ 6 or iPhone Xs Max - I'd even say worse than the Pixel 2XL.
Mainly disappointing since the screen brightness is so low even running full brightness outside makes it barely tolerable. This is after a couple of days but don't see it getting better.
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Mark me down for about 6 hours SOT on average daily after about 4 days of usage.
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How?
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How?
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How? I'm a heavy user but I don't game. Lots of internet via Chrome, tons of social media, pictures, etc. I turn off always on display and set it to turn on when I lift up the phone. I turn off Google location accuracy mode in settings and just use GPS. I don't use adaptive brightness. I don't sync/push emails. And I always have both wifi and data on. Just normal stuff. Nothing special. I don't use any battery saver app garbage. It's just stock. Been pleased with the battery.
Confirmation. Not as good as 2XL. But close. Max 8 hours SOT
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How? I'm a heavy user but I don't game. Lots of internet via Chrome, tons of social media, pictures, etc. I turn off always on display and set it to turn on when I lift up the phone. I turn off Google location accuracy mode in settings and just use GPS. I don't use adaptive brightness. I don't sync/push emails. And I always have both wifi and data on. Just normal stuff. Nothing special. I don't use any battery saver app garbage. It's just stock. Been pleased with the battery.
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I just got my phone yesterday. Think I need to adjust some settings. Definitely need to turn off location and the brightness thing. Also, I'm on stock and have a much of new stuff on my home screen. Trying to remove that too. I'm not a gamer either so I should get good battery soon
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I just got my phone yesterday. Think I need to adjust some settings. Definitely need to turn off location and the brightness thing. Also, I'm on stock and have a much of new stuff on my home screen. Trying to remove that too. I'm not a gamer either so I should get good battery soon
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Oh forgot a most important thing! I use a pure black wallpaper. OLED displays don't use any power to display the black color so it only uses power to illuminate the icons when you are using a black wallpaper. Saves a ton of battery. Use a black background wherever you can. Dark mode is your friend.
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Oh forgot a most important thing! I use a pure black wallpaper. OLED displays don't use any power to display the black color so it only uses power to illuminate the icons when you are using a black wallpaper. Saves a ton of battery. Use a black background wherever you can. Dark mode is your friend.
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Question about location. Did you turn it off on the top or bottom? I remember when I was on andriod before there was a way to turn it off and on in the control center.
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