[Mango] battery drain - Windows Phone 7 General

follow this steps for some reason if u experience battery drain in mango
1.- Turn off the phone and pulled out the sim card.
2.- Turn on the phone without the sim card. (Why?, eerr...i don't know!)
3.- Turn off the phone again and reinstalled the sim card.
4.- Finally, turn on the phone.
Please let us know if it worked for you

I've just done it.
I'm a bit skeptical if this method actually improves anything...
Let's see tomorrow how it goes...
I'll post the result here.

The best way to resolve battery drain issues is by resetting Mango after its flashed. I did that with mine and the battery stopped pouring out like a rain drain to just sipping a fine wine.

MartyLK said:
The best way to resolve battery drain issues is by resetting Mango after its flashed. I did that with mine and the battery stopped pouring out like a rain drain to just sipping a fine wine.
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yes resetting works...but the prob is sometimes the drain comes back...
apparently it has to do with push email and connections..
especially yahoo mail.....maybe the telco is not playing friendly with this one

MartyLK said:
The best way to resolve battery drain issues is by resetting Mango after its flashed. I did that with mine and the battery stopped pouring out like a rain drain to just sipping a fine wine.
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confirm, it works.
Data connection is the problem of battery drain if we've got data connection off, wifi off, location and bluetooth off battery drain is minimal, I can say 1-2% per 5/6 hours in sleep (during night) with data connection (during sllep) about 5-10% in the same time

MartyLK said:
The best way to resolve battery drain issues is by resetting Mango after its flashed. I did that with mine and the battery stopped pouring out like a rain drain to just sipping a fine wine.
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I did that anyways cause everything was amuck after the update. My HD7 gets like 4 hours battery life while browsing on a full 3G connection. And that's not a 4 hours of having the screen on/using it, either... Already tried a different battery, no change.
Yes, the data connection drains a colossal ton of battery, not helped by this phone's small battery size.
They need to add quick toggles for GPS, Bluetooth and stuff like that. 3rd party apps clutter up my app menu so I don't install those. Just need a quick toggle somewhere, or add the command to the voice recognition system ("GPS Off/On", "Bluetooth Off/On", etc.).
It's much easier for me to manage battery on the Vibrant because Turning off Superfluous features like WiFi, GPS, and Blue Tooth are only a swipe and a tap away. Not so much on WP7. I never turn off my data connection, so I'm confused why Microsoft added a Data Connections app, but nothing for GPS, WiFi, or BT. Just need to add in some toggles somewhere... that are easily accessible.

I don't understand how you get 4 hours when I play music/podcasts all day at work, text all day, use apps, and go online & my HD7 makes it through at least my 9 hour work day
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apparently sim issues in the OS cause battery drain problems
THis is a problem found , even in IOS and android
Wp7 should be no exception

I own a Focus and I started a thread exactly because I found a similar issue. However, the "drain" wasn't present in 7660 (Mango beta).
Indeed, data connections have a 10-20% negative impact on battery life compared to beta (at least on my Focus), but the heaviest drain I got from apps that run in the background. Once I disabled those, the boost is more than noticeable.
I will also try what OP described. Btw, how/where did you get to that?

EnderPsp said:
I own a Focus and I started a thread exactly because I found a similar issue. However, the "drain" wasn't present in 7660 (Mango beta).
Indeed, data connections have a 10-20% negative impact on battery life compared to beta (at least on my Focus), but the heaviest drain I got from apps that run in the background. Once I disabled those, the boost is more than noticeable.
I will also try what OP described. Btw, how/where did you get to that?
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well i did it works, i am not sure how but such a procedure , may reset something in the phone
maybe some issues with signal.

Well for me it did nothing...
@EnderPsp:
Last week I disable the apps that are running in the background and I noticed a small boost in battery perfomence.

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Well for me it did nothing...
@EnderPsp:
Last week I disable the apps that are running in the background and I noticed a small boost in battery perfomence.
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i also did this at the same time
refer here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302541
running the taiwan SEA rom
flashed it a few weeks ago
Tried restoring in zune to nodo
it seems microsoft does not want u to go back to nodo
anyone can confirm?
the phone restarts with the black screen of the phone connected to computer picture . Says restoring , then throws up an error and restarts to normal
But something peculiar happened. My battery life improved after this error message. not sure why..
has it got something to do with zune "resetting" ot "modifying the phone??

FiyaFleye said:
I don't understand how you get 4 hours when I play music/podcasts all day at work, text all day, use apps, and go online & my HD7 makes it through at least my 9 hour work day
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Either you are lying, or you are mistaken and are talking about another phone.
Because Mango won't last that long.

FiyaFleye said:
I don't understand how you get 4 hours when I play music/podcasts all day at work, text all day, use apps, and go online & my HD7 makes it through at least my 9 hour work day
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I never said I understood. I just know that the battery drains ridiculously fast and I lost over well 10% an hour, easily. When it's at 67% the battery saver says 2 hours remaining, and it's not lying. It has worse battery life than a cheap laptop.
Unusable as a daily driver because it dies way too damn fast.

I wouldn't call it horrible on my Focus, but it is definitely more of an issue than it was with NoDo. Following the same usage patterns as before I am lucky to get 12 hours out of a charge, where on NoDo it would just barely last through a 16 hour day. So I either charge it midway through the day, or don't use it as much. Right now I'm not using it as much .

I found change the Brightness to low instead of Automatic saves a lot of battery usage, I am so surprised.

xflier said:
I found change the Brightness to low instead of Automatic saves a lot of battery usage, I am so surprised.
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Yeah but in daylight you can't really see it then. Which is too bad.
I actually would've thought that the Focus would have a better battery as they have the AMOLED going on.

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I found change the Brightness to low instead of Automatic saves a lot of battery usage, I am so surprised.
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I found that out many months ago. I don't know if it makes a difference on all phones, but it significant on the Focus. Unfortunately, my Mango battery drain observations are with the brightness already on Low.

The Focus has a Super AMOLED screen, which has 5x the outdoor visibility and 20x the viewing angles of the HD7. That may work for that phone, but it would make the HD7 unusable for me outdoors; and I'm assuming many other people. It only has an LCD screen. With automatic brightness I can already see my own reflection in the screen more clearly than the actual phone/OS images...

"The Focus has a Super AMOLED screen, which has 5x the outdoor visibility and 20x the viewing angles of the HD7. That may work for that phone, but it would make the HD7 unusable for me outdoors; and I'm assuming many other people. It only has an LCD screen. With automatic brightness I can already see my own reflection in the screen more clearly than the actual phone/OS images..."
this makes me feel better that I picked Samsung phone, I was regretting Samsung focus because It randomly reboot and also after 10-15 mins HD video recording, I suspect it is quality issue.

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Battery life

I have charged it in the morning until it was full, and started playing with it.
It was on for 9 hours until the battery was completely dead.
I used it since 11:30 until 3:30pm, then I left it on standby for a 2 hours (battery was at 14%). I came back used it for another 2 hours, and it went dead.
Everything was on except for bluetooth and GPS.
Android Operating system used 83% of the battery and all the other application were under 5%.
I did quite a bit of browsing, photos, movies, youtube, downloaded some apps, etc...
What do you all think about the battery performance?
At the moment it is charging and I will leave it plugged in until the morning. It is also turned off.
What are your experiences? Opinions?
9 hours only? That's not good ... But probably you have quite some widgets that actively sync etc. etc.
i wouldnt worry to much as you probably just received it and you must have played with it for a while, and also try turning off the auto update of facebook, email etc etc
thats kindda dispointing, ... even with updating i expected it to last at least one full day, I mean when they put many widgets they should take into consideration the battery life ... hope its cuz the battery is new, and needs some few charges to feel maximum capability
As I said, I did have everything on apart from GPS and Bluetooth. (including updates).
And yes I did use it for 6 full hours (medium screen brightness).
Downloaded apps, watched videoclips, played some flash games, wrote e-mails, wrote texts, browsed the internet, etc... funnily enough I EVEN made 1 (one) phone call!
I wouldn't worry about it though. ALL my phones only lasted for about 8-10 hours the first day when I got them.
Doesn't new Lithium-ion battery needs a couple of charging cycles before
reaching optimal capacity!?
Would be nice if someone could update us in this thread about the battery life when you've had it a few days and it's being abused less
We must however point out a couple of things regarding the Desires out there at the moment, although we certainly do not wish to discredit anyone else's reviews.
We have been informed by a reliable source that some HTC Desires have been out for review for several days now, but these devices did not come from the same source as ours. These early versions did not contain the final ROM that we have been waiting for and I am reliably informed that those devices will have essential features missing. They have also had problems with the OS crashing and serious battery issues which is clearly down to the fact that Google had not completed the ROMS when the devices were shipped.
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found @ tracy and Matts Blog
Could It be possible, that t-Mobile did not ship the Desire with the latest firmware?
Could It be possible, that t-Mobile did not ship the Desire with the latest firmware?
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I believe you are totally right.
I had my new HTC Desire from T-Mobile delivered today. It's a good phone but I have a problem. They sent a phone with pre-release software installed. Every screen has a watermark stating "HTC Confidential" and numbers.
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Let's wait ~7th April and then we will see true battery life...
I'm fairly sure that 9 hours of constant use is pretty damn good for any device. If I use my Touch HD for browsing the net/listening to music/ syncing etc it will die in far less than that.
Remember that it is a miracle that the iPad lasts for 10 hours of constant use, and thats got a massive battery in it!
So yea get used to it! At least while you are playing with it being a new toy and all.
OnlinePredator said:
I'm fairly sure that 9 hours of constant use is pretty damn good for any device. If I use my Touch HD for browsing the net/listening to music/ syncing etc it will die in far less than that.
Remember that it is a miracle that the iPad lasts for 10 hours of constant use, and thats got a massive battery in it!
So yea get used to it! At least while you are playing with it being a new toy and all.
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dont forget that the iPad has 9.7-inch (diagonal) LED display, so that shouldnt be a reason, and dont forget that the Desire's display is AMOLED which should be a battery life saver.
For the OP, if you could try using it the same (constantly) but disable the live wallpaper
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dont forget that the iPad has 9.7-inch (diagonal) LED display, so that shouldnt be a reason, and dont forget that the Desire's display is AMOLED which should be a battery life saver.
For the OP, if you could try using it the same (constantly) but disable the live wallpaper
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LED & AMOLED = Same thing.
irkan said:
dont forget that the iPad has 9.7-inch (diagonal) LED display, so that shouldnt be a reason, and dont forget that the Desire's display is AMOLED which should be a battery life saver.
For the OP, if you could try using it the same (constantly) but disable the live wallpaper
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Agree with the AMOLED, but it's running a 1ghz processor along with the already perceived power hungry android.... Gotta admit that if you expect it to last more than a few hours of playing with, will be sorely dissapointed.
Compared to my HD which had a 528mhz processor but lcd screen, which lasted less than 10 hours when playing with non stop.
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LED & AMOLED = Same thing.
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It's not the same thing. "LED" is a backlit LCD-display, AMOLED is an active matrix OLED-display, completely different technologies.
TFT-LCD's use a backlight, OLED's has active pixels that light up per pixel and does not need an extra backlight.
The battery life is really poor.
I went to bed last night with it fully charged and this morning it was completely dead. Albeit I left meebo running in the background along with lookout and advanced task killer.
Nothing was set to update as I've deleted the friend stream and rss feed.
I'm pretty sure this phone should last a lot longer than 9 hours on standby.
If you have read the whole thread, you'll see that there might be an issue with the pre-released models. Unlocked/retail phones coming out next month with latest software will probably not have this issue.
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If you have read the whole thread, you'll see that there might be an issue with the pre-released models. Unlocked/retail phones coming out next month with latest software will probably not have this issue.
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I think someone should actually test turning everything off except gsm. No data connections, no updating of anything. No GPS, bluetooth, sync, no applications running. See how much it goes down overnight with everything off.
That could maybe be a good idea, just to see how much it goes down. But if you can't use the phone at all, I just can't see the point of having t his phone. It's made to be used and you are supposed to be connected at all times, so if HTC has made this phone with so bad battery performance, that just basically sucks.
On the other hand, it seems that the final ROM from HTC was just confirmed at Google this friday, so im guessing these early phones out there does not have the final ROM.
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Agree with the AMOLED, but it's running a 1ghz processor along with the already perceived power hungry android.... Gotta admit that if you expect it to last more than a few hours of playing with, will be sorely dissapointed.
Compared to my HD which had a 528mhz processor but lcd screen, which lasted less than 10 hours when playing with non stop.
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My Nokia E75, i run wifi all day, with push mail, and Zozoc (WiFi/GPRS Messaging client) and i can easily go through one whole day (and few hours). the screen is TFT, non-touch, and small.
I know that we cant compare cuz they are entirely different, but the point is, the battery life should not be (and i hope it is not) that bad, even when running apps in the background. one day (or few hours below that) should be decent.
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If you have read the whole thread, you'll see that there might be an issue with the pre-released models. Unlocked/retail phones coming out next month with latest software will probably not have this issue.
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The OS in the T-Mobile versions have already been approved by google, so its not a pre-release.
and i agree, someone should try to stop live wallpaper and updates (just use it as simple phone, calls, messages and a little bit of WiFi) and see how much that goes
I quote the following from the first detailed review from techradar
The battery in the HTC Desire was 'only' a 1400mAh effort - we'd have like to see a 1500mAh option there, as is the case with so many other smartphones at the moment.
We're also a little concerned about the battery life - it dropped rather quickly, and although you'll get a day's worth of use out of it under normal use (ie web browsing, calling etc) it can drop a little alarmingly fast at times.
We had a little look at what was munching on the power so much (thanks to the Android battery meter) and it seems to be the widgets (in particular FriendStream) and synchronising that's taking a lot of the power, along with the constant flicking to roaming networks and back to 3G.
We found a big increase in battery life if we stopped updating Peep, Friendstream and emails all day long, and when set to '2G networks only' the battery life also improved to three days' use without problem.
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this seems good, this is decent! i dont use 3G much, i would probably update the friends stream on demand, and with a little bit above average use, i should get 1.5-2 days without problems (based on the review)
No I want some people who already have the desire to try this and come back with the result

HD2 WP7 battery

ok so I used my phone for about 3 hours last night tweaking things and playing with stuff and didn't charge it overnight and used it a bunch today and the battery indicator looked like it was at about 70%. probably not accurate, but the fact that it's even still on amazes me because it's probably got 8 hours of playing with it and 6 hours of standby and still going strong.
I think a full drain then a full charge might reset the battery indicator for accuracy, I wish we had like a "current widget" for WP7 to see the ma drain.
how you guys doing on HD2 WP7 battery drain? Mine seems to be even better than WM6.5
I have the exact opposite experience as you. My HD2[7]'s battery life is crap. It was fully charged last night and I had left it in my drawer with the Wi-fi off. After coming from work a half hour ago, I saw that the battery was almost drained.
Also, shouldn't the battery icon show the plug when the phone is being charged? My phone is on and booted into WP7, the red light is showing but the battery icon shows no animation or the plug. EDIT: WTF IT FROZE ON ME, I had to remove the battery!
Finally, what's with the random reboots? I've seen 2 already.
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Finally, what's with the random reboots? I've seen 2 already.
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I think its something related to the SD cards you are using.
If the Sd card you are using is not compatible with WP7 then you will get random reboots.
And the main thing here is that there is no specific way to know which SD card will work and which wont work with WP7
By the way my battery is somewhat draining faster than the Android I was using on my HD2
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I think its something related to the SD cards you are using.
If the Sd card you are using is not compatible with WP7 then you will get random reboots.
And the main thing here is that there is no specific way to know which SD card will work and which wont work with WP7
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we know which sd cards work on official wp7 devices.
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we know which sd cards work on official wp7 devices.
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What I meant to say was, we don't know which SD card will work with WP7 on HD2.
I wasn't talking about the official WP7
Well the stock 16gig TMOUS card works just fine.
my battery seems to be fine, i use my scale based on my school schedual. with android from 7 am to 4 pm around 50 to 40 percent.
today running wp7 i unplugged it around 8is and about 6 is it had very little black on the battery icon. im going ot charge it up fully, then kill it, to see if that helps reset the battery stats
Well when i first flashed WP7 my battery was over lasting.. After i manually rebooted because i just felt like doing so, my battery has started to drain a little bit to fast.
Are there any marketplace apps that can monitor this stuff yet?
Update: Last night, after making sure that my phone was fully charged, I turned off the wifi and removed the SIM card and didn't touch the phone again until a half hour ago (about 12 hours standby time in total). The indicator is showing about 50% battery life remaining. This SUCKS, and any helpful comments about this will be appreciated.
just considering its not supposed to be on the phone...
also what theme are you using
and since microsd polling it may have a lot of impact on standard battery life...
plus, let's be real, it is an htc...they're not battery efficient
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just considering its not supposed to be on the phone...
also what theme are you using
and since microsd polling it may have a lot of impact on standard battery life...
plus, let's be real, it is an htc...they're not battery efficient
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Here are my settings: Dark background theme, purple (hate the color normally, but somehow manages to look nice on the HD2), 30 seconds lockscreen timeout, Wifi off, Location off.
I tried removing the MicroSD, but the phone then becomes unusable with frequent freezes and reboots. I'd love to check if the card is affecting battery life if the damn phone would let me to.
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I have the exact opposite experience as you. My HD2[7]'s battery life is crap. It was fully charged last night and I had left it in my drawer with the Wi-fi off. After coming from work a half hour ago, I saw that the battery was almost drained.
Also, shouldn't the battery icon show the plug when the phone is being charged? My phone is on and booted into WP7, the red light is showing but the battery icon shows no animation or the plug. EDIT: WTF IT FROZE ON ME, I had to remove the battery!
Finally, what's with the random reboots? I've seen 2 already.
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HTC puts bad batteries in their 4.3" phones. They've been using 1230 mAh batteries forever (over a year). Blackberry curves come with 1150 mAh batteries so you can see what that size is somewhat optimized for: feature phones and smartphones with small non-touch screens.
Most smartphones with a 4"+ screen running Android or WP7 have 1400+ mAh batteries (the i4 and Droid X also have 1400, Galaxy S and Incredible have 1500). That's why the battery life is bad.
And it's also the reason why I've never really given the phone much consideration - the battery and the TFT LCD screen they used on it.
That being said, the battery life depends on you usage. When I used my HD2 as myprimary device the battery life was terrible. Once I got my Vibrant and used it only as a PMP, the battery life was terrific because it didn't have a SIM Card and I only used it on WiFi and to play Music and Videos.
But people who use Curve 3Gs as their primary devices and are constantly BBMing and/or SMSing people in addition to calls report days-worth of uptime (emphasis on the plural).
My battery life is on par with what it was on android (about 12-16 hours with moderate usage of web, email, facebook, and heavy twitter) and its configured the same was as my android:
1) wifi is on when I need it (maybe 20-45 minutes a day for some marketplace downloads or something)
2) location is always on
3) screen is set to manual, low and 3 minute time-out
4) I have 3 IMAP email accounts that check between every 15 minutes and every 30 minutes.
5) I have a VERY active twitter account that updates every few minutes (not sure exactly as it doesn't appear to be live tile integrated)
6) facebook and google sync
7) HTC HUB is usually running updating the weather and stocks as often as it likes
8) dark brown theme
9) ringer off and no haptic feedback
Hope that helps anyone.
I do agree that the HTC supplied battery is sub-standard. Does anyone know where I can see what the battery percentage is acutally at? I only have the icon in the top right.
Just as a bit of information, my HD7 gets significantly better battery life than my sister's Galaxy phone. Also, those of you removing the SIM, make sure you also enable airplane mode, incase the phone continues to still search for signal... Battery size isn't as important as power management, though I do agree I wish we had a bigger battery on our HD7s... we might have sacrificed a little space for it though...
I think the battery meter is off. After about an hour of playing with Netflix, Zune and watching videos with the ign app my battery meter indicated that I had a lil juice left. I went to sleep without charging the phone. I was sure it would be dead when I woke but it wasn't. I was able to get about 2 more hrs out of it while using the Zune player streaming a playlist I saw.
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There is no third party multi-tasking in WP7 and Android Users usually have more apps/services updating stuff in the background. Yes, WP7 will get better battery life than lots of Android Phones and even theHD2 with the same battery in it due to that simple fact along, nevermind all the other exceptions and the obvious disclaimer: different use patterns are different.
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There is no third party multi-tasking in WP7 and Android Users usually have more apps/services updating stuff in the background. Yes, WP7 will get better battery life than lots of Android Phones and even theHD2 with the same battery in it due to that simple fact along, nevermind all the other exceptions and the obvious disclaimer: different use patterns are different.
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I have ATK or whatever it is installed on her phone, not sure if the AMOLED screen uses more juice though
Don't get me started on task killers and android. ATK may be causing the poor battery life. Those process and apps you think your killing are just gonna restart and cause more battery drain. Android does not need task killers. I suggest trying auto killer wich tweaks androids internal memory management to be more or less aggrsive. Phone must be rooted though.
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Don't get me started on task killers and android. ATK may be causing the poor battery life. Those process and apps you think your killing are just gonna restart and cause more battery drain. Android does not need task killers. I suggest trying auto killer wich tweaks androids internal memory management to be more or less aggrsive. Phone must be rooted though.
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I won't have much luck with that lol, her phone, her rules... I might convince her some day though

Battery consumption on Froyo2.2

I just replaced my battery and noticed it doesn't go beyond 4 - 5 hrs. So I was wondering if the battery has an issue or something. Can everyone using Froyo 2.2 state their battery life, please, mentioning also your phonel type.
I use a Touch Pro 2 from Sprint, that is RHOD500.
Thanks for your responses.
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First the TP2 from Sprint is a RHOD400.
Second, it highly depends on usage. Lots of phone calls? Browsing? Streaming video, etc? 4-5 hours isn't bad then. If the phone is sleeping 100% of that 4-5 hours, NO radios (cell, wifi, bt, gps, etc) then that's pretty bad.
I typically get 6-10 hours (again usage ^^). Mostly idle, 10 hours. More browsing, videos, phone calls... closer to 6. I try to stick near a charger.
The port is far from perfect. The battery meter is off, and there's probably some places where power management could use some help - but it'll never sip batteries like WinMo does. WinMo is doing nothing basically, and Android isn't so great on native devices batteries... so I'm not exactly surprised Android sucks my battery dry.
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Android isn't so great on native devices batteries... so I'm not exactly surprised Android sucks my battery dry.
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I've had my lady's HTC Desire running Android in no-sim mode for three days now. Looks like it might need a charge later today. I did a 40 minute stint using the GPS and a mapping program during that time.
Suggestion to OP: Keep the backlight low, and on a short timeout. Also, disable the high speed network when you don't need it. Especially if the phone hops between high and lower speed networks frequently. Also, the battery might improve a bit after a few charges/discharges. Is it an OEM battery or a cheap knockoff?
Twice as short as in Windows
I really love Android on my TP2 and I'm amazed how well it's running on it. Really impressive, the only thing I'm less happy with is the battery usage. Even on stand-by it lasts at less then in Windows mode.
I've been comparing it now for a few days: I can do at least 1 day with a charge in Windows mode (sometimes even 2 days), but in Android mode I have to change before lunch time and before dinner to get through a day. Even while doing more or less the same things. (Turning off WiFi, GPS, sync etc do not seem to save much).
So, I'm afraid that I can only enjoy Android while there is power outlet nearby. This is really too bad as I would simply love to get rid of the whole Windows install.
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I've had my lady's HTC Desire running Android in no-sim mode for three days now. Looks like it might need a charge later today. I did a 40 minute stint using the GPS and a mapping program during that time.
Suggestion to OP: Keep the backlight low, and on a short timeout. Also, disable the high speed network when you don't need it. Especially if the phone hops between high and lower speed networks frequently. Also, the battery might improve a bit after a few charges/discharges. Is it an OEM battery or a cheap knockoff?
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Well with no SIM in of course it would last days. One dev found our port could run 65+ hours in this manner...
GerardNL said:
I really love Android on my TP2 and I'm amazed how well it's running on it. Really impressive, the only thing I'm less happy with is the battery usage. Even on stand-by it lasts at less then in Windows mode.
I've been comparing it now for a few days: I can do at least 1 day with a charge in Windows mode (sometimes even 2 days), but in Android mode I have to change before lunch time and before dinner to get through a day. Even while doing more or less the same things. (Turning off WiFi, GPS, sync etc do not seem to save much).
So, I'm afraid that I can only enjoy Android while there is power outlet nearby. This is really too bad as I would simply love to get rid of the whole Windows install.
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C'est la vie, read above. Android will never, ever be as frugal with your battery like WinMo is. Which do you want, Android and crappy battery or WinMo and good battery? Choice is yours, no one is forcing you either way. Can't have both tho.
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WWhich do you want, Android and crappy battery or WinMo and good battery? Choice is yours, no one is forcing you either way. Can't have both tho.
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I've actually been pretty happy with FRX7.1 and battery life. I'm consistently getting 24+ hours with my usage (mostly data, some talk).
WinMo would easily go 50% more, but a full day is enough that I can forget to put it on the charger at night and not be dead in the morning.
FaluSeyi - If it's not direct usage I would check to see if you have GPS accidentally turned on, in my experience that seems to be the thing that kills my battery if I forget to shut it off when I'm done using it.
First the TP2 from Sprint is a RHOD400.
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Blame the guy that changed the phone casing before I was given the phone. lol. The front says Sprint and under the battery cover it says xxxRHOD500.
Second, it highly depends on usage. Lots of phone calls? Browsing? Streaming video, etc? 4-5 hours isn't bad then. If the phone is sleeping 100% of that 4-5 hours, NO radios (cell, wifi, bt, gps, etc) then that's pretty bad.
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I rarely use BT, cell and messaging are my regulars and of course data. wifi doesn't work, though I wonder if it ever goes off. That leaves GPS, which I think is almost always on.
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FaluSeyi said:
Blame the guy that changed the phone casing before I was given the phone. lol. The front says Sprint and under the battery cover it says xxxRHOD500.
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Well if you know this, then say that. Your first post would make me think that the Sprint TP2 is a RHOD500, which simply is not true.
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I rarely use BT, cell and messaging are my regulars and of course data. wifi doesn't work, though I wonder if it ever goes off. That leaves GPS, which I think is almost always on.
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Wifi works fine. GPS is broken to always on, read the FAQ. That's the reason your battery life sucks, you don't know how to read!!
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Wifi works fine. GPS is broken to always on, read the FAQ. That's the reason your battery life sucks, you don't know how to read!!
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The FAQ says something about getting a position fix, but I couldn't see anything about switching it off. How is that done? Or can't it be done?
The Desire ran 92 hours before it demanded a charge up, including the 40 minute stint on GPS + program with always on backlight. 10 month old OEM battery used daily.
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The FAQ says something about getting a position fix, but I couldn't see anything about switching it off. How is that done? Or can't it be done?
The Desire ran 92 hours before it demanded a charge up, including the 40 minute stint on GPS + program with always on backlight. 10 month old OEM battery used daily.
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It's a bug with our port. Once GPS is turned on/used, it is 'stuck on' until you manually turn it off. This bug is fixed in the new GB build.
You couldn't see how to turn it off? Settings --> Location & Security. Wow... from a native device owner, I'm kinda surprised.
New GB build? Nice news... I thought it was a dead project by now
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New GB build? Nice news... I thought it was a dead project by now
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Ye have little faith!
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You couldn't see how to turn it off? Settings --> Location & Security. Wow... from a native device owner, I'm kinda surprised.
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Heh, it 'just works'(tm) and I haven't had to turn it off manually.
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Ye have little faith!
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Faith is the last thing to die...

Bad batter

this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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sell it
(im just writing this stuff here because of the too short rule)
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this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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Congratulations on a useless post.
If that's the only battery life you're getting then you should really look at how you have your device set up. I easily get 12-15 hours on heavy use and more than 24 hours on light use (moderate use is somewhere in between). I use auto brightness, and keep bluetooth, gps, and wifi turned on all the time. I have facebook syncing and push email going and I have no battery issues at all. I suggest you take a look at your device configuration and also you may need to calibrate your battery.
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If that's the only battery life you're getting then you should really look at how you have your device set up. I easily get 12-15 hours on heavy use and more than 24 hours on light use (moderate use is somewhere in between). I use auto brightness, and keep bluetooth, gps, and wifi turned on all the time. I have facebook syncing and push email going and I have no battery issues at all. I suggest you take a look at your device configuration and also you may need to calibrate your battery.
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so you are suggesting to turn wifi,bluetooth and gps on all the time for better battery life? really?
Mine is currently on 1day and 7hours on battery, still with 30% left. You need to set it up properly mate..
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so you are suggesting to turn wifi,bluetooth and gps on all the time for better battery life? really?
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Nowhere in what I posted did I say that. Try reading with understanding next time. What I said was I have everything turned on and I still get good battery life, so if yours is lacking perhaps you should take a look at how your device is configured. That a bit clearer for you?....
OP, your post has made my day today!
However battery life depends on how your device usage is. People with carefully set usage patterns can extract the most. For e.g. I use Locale to set a certain profile at night that switches off wifi, data usage, etc. That is one way to maximise battery life.
Edited your title to be proper.
Please maintain forum etiquette. You can get the same exact message across using proper language
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Nowhere in what I posted did I say that. Try reading with understanding next time. What I said was I have everything turned on and I still get good battery life, so if yours is lacking perhaps you should take a look at how your device is configured. That a bit clearer for you?....
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ah i see so how is ur device configured exactly? are you rooted? because im not getting good battery life neither
I'm having similar battery issues, a heads up on how to set up the phone for a better battery life would be very much appreciated.
Evileddie said:
I'm having similar battery issues, a heads up on how to set up the phone for a better battery life would be very much appreciated.
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yea that would be awesome
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ah i see so how is ur device configured exactly? are you rooted? because im not getting good battery life neither
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Okay let me further clarify myself. When I say look at how your device is configured I mean look at what you have running. Do you have things syncing frequently in the background? Do you have apps installed that constantly wake the device? How many background apps are you running at once. I don't have any special configuration on my device. I have everything turned on as far as bluetooth, wifi, and gps. I use push email, facebook set to sync every 4 hours, weather set to sync every 6 hours, google reader set to "download frequently viewed feeds every hour", currents set to sync every 6 hours in the background (wifi only). With those settings my battery life is pretty good. When I'm not using my phone is drains between 2-2.5% battery per hour, that should give you a bit of a point of reference for what you should be getting when idle. Here's an app here I stumbled across that can show you what's waking your device http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 Hope this helps you out.
Battery is pretty good to me, under normal usage easily over 24hours.
I have had no problems with my battery or screen, not sure where your setup went wrong but listen to the posters before me and less ranting and maybe you'll make the best out of an awesome device
My battery is great! Better than any other smart phone iv used, signal is great swell and the screen is awesome
I love this phone lol
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this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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I see in your screenshot the GPS and the screen were on for most of that time.
And by "on" I mean the GPS was really on with a fix, not just "on standby" and ready to be automatically activated when a program requests it.
No phone I have ever owned has ever got more than about 4 hours from the battery when I have been using the GPS. The simple fact of the matter is the battery will discharge very quickly when using GPS. That's not a fault of the Nexus, that's just how it is.
Bad battery?
That screenshot shows you've been absolutely caning the **** out of your phone. Nothing will have a good battery life with usage like that.
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Bad battery?
That screenshot shows you've been absolutely caning the **** out of your phone. Nothing will have a good battery life with usage like that.
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QFT. Almost half of it has been screen on, GPS on. No phone can stand up to that for long.
Cool story.
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LG G4 - Pitiful battery life

Hello all,
I recently purchased a LG G4 Back In July , on Verizon, switching over from A Galaxy Note 3 (Tmobile). Honestly I really really like the phone, but I think the battery life is pitiful for a $700 dollar "Flagship" phone. I mean not once has it ever lasted the full day. I had to buy a spare battery kit, with 2 batteries, and days when im out from 6am to late at night, I go through 2 batteries, and have to put the 3rd one in. I mean , this is simply unacceptable for a phone like this.
Also, the camera is excellent WHEN it works. A lot of times, it doesn't take the picture right away, there is a delay, and many times it falls out of focus. This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
I am hoping there is a way to fix these 2 issues, mainly the battery issue though because it is awful in my opinion. Is there any tweaks or fixes for these issues?
You've barely given any relevant information other than how unhappy you are with the device, so I would suggest that you elaborate on that.
You could inform us if you're a heavy/light user, if you keep NFC, LTE, Bluetooth, Syncing, Wi-Fi, on during the whole day or maybe if you are used to 100% brightness display. Maybe you should check in your settings what is draining your battery and provide us the info.
I'm having a pretty good experience with the phone so far. It surely lasts a whole day with 3:30 to 4h SoT. I don't even need/have a spare battery.
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This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
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One person having an issue doesn't mean it's not a great camera. You'll find it's likely still the best flagship camera of any OEM.
Battery use is so dependent on which apps you run, which mods you have, how often the screen is on, what brightness, signal strength, wifi, bluetooth, etc etc etc...
I came from a galaxy s3 and reckon the battery on g4 is awesome. I use it solidly on internet for 2 hrs a day (to and from work), check messages etc through the day, usually internet at lunch. And then evening time check facebook etc over WiFi infront of telly.
I unplug at 6am and plug in around 11pm with around 3% left. I bought a 2nd battery and only needed to use it twice. It has to be how you're using it.
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13 hours on battery for me today and still 71% left. Light usage but it does illustrate that the battery life can be excellent.
itm said:
13 hours on battery for me today and still 71% left. Light usage but it does illustrate that the battery life can be excellent.
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of course, you can get excellent battery life on every smartphone - just put it in aeroplane mode..
I get MAX 3h of SOT time on my G4 - this is with fixed brightness at 65% (at all times) and only wifi and 3g enabled (NFC, bluetooth and everything else is turned off all the time)
to be fair I have yet to own a smartphone that lasts me more than 4h SOT..
the thing that annoys me the most is the broken knock code used to unlock the phone - it works 20% of the time at best
its a completely broken feature LG has not properly addressed since launch of the device (I am on V10e software)
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I recently purchased a LG G4 Back In July , on Verizon, switching over from A Galaxy Note 3 (Tmobile).
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There have been numerous firmware updates since. Have you ever performed a full factory reset after getting those updates ?
If the answer is no, then this is one potential reason for poor battery life. What you could try is to clear the system cache in recovery. Note, i said system cache not apps cache. Idea here is when updates come in there could be conflicts and it causes the system to work harder. clearing system cache might help, if it does not then the only option is a factory reset and then a manual install.
not restore. You install apps in batches, monitor, then install more and so on. You can restore contacts etc. but apps themselves will have to be reinstalled. Sometimes apps go rogue and have to be reinstalled. Its hard to tell which app is causing the issue. Otherwise you could just reinstall whatever app that seems to be taking up more than it should be.
Honestly I really really like the phone, but I think the battery life is pitiful for a $700 dollar "Flagship" phone. I mean not once has it ever lasted the full day. I had to buy a spare battery kit, with 2 batteries, and days when im out from 6am to late at night, I go through 2 batteries, and have to put the 3rd one in. I mean , this is simply unacceptable for a phone like this.
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What are you doing on your phone ? mention apps.
How do you access the net. How good is your signal. What are you doing when you access the net.
Also, the camera is excellent WHEN it works. A lot of times, it doesn't take the picture right away, there is a delay, and many times it falls out of focus. This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
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What types of shots are these. It can happen with portraits some times. It will focus on the background behind the person instead of the person and the face becomes softer and the background very sharp.
For this set focus little above the chest instead of the face. If they are wearing dark clothing this will cause other issues so focus on something else at equal distance that isn't dark.
Always check the shot at the pixel level soon after you took it. Rather than at the end of the day.
Furma said:
of course, you can get excellent battery life on every smartphone - just put it in aeroplane mode..
I get MAX 3h of SOT time on my G4 - this is with fixed brightness at 65% (at all times) and only wifi and 3g enabled (NFC, bluetooth and everything else is turned off all the time)
to be fair I have yet to own a smartphone that lasts me more than 4h SOT..
the thing that annoys me the most is the broken knock code used to unlock the phone - it works 20% of the time at best
its a completely broken feature LG has not properly addressed since launch of the device (I am on V10e software)
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Just to clarify: I had everything turned on for those 13 hours - wifi/data/bluetooth/GPS. I also made 2 phone calls and did a bit of Chromecasting using the BT Sport app for a couple of hours. Or to put it another way, I didn't take any measures at all to preserve battery life.
I used to complain just like you're doing OP ( @dredmentia ) and fixed it all with a Zerolemon battery .
Is the phone bulky/no leather back/not easy to handle... , it sure is but if battery life is crucial then it gotta get fixed.
End my day anywhere between 7 to 13 hours of sot depending on WiFi or 4g and high CPU freqs, tried light usage and hit 3 days with 12 hours sot. Snap/insta/twit/fb/periscope/... Nothing kills this battery in a day.
When and if we get a kernel I'll move back to factory battery at least then I know I'm in control of how CPU works coz while optimizing the phone for wakelocks that's the only thing I have no control over...
As for now I'm just trying to burn thru this battery every day so I can charge it every night...
Last phone was a Z3 Sony and that really grabbed my attention with its battery life in stock form, almost too perfect, Almost.
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This is what your talking about? Looks like a pretty nice battery.
LG G4 Battery Case, ZeroLemon LG G4 8500mAh TriCell Extended Battery + Soft TPU Full Edge Protection Case (Compatible with all LG G4 variants) (4897010519648)
It works with the USB charger that came with the phone ?
Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Then maybe something is wrong with the phone. I got also 4-5hr SoT.
It can't be just 2hr.
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Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Did you not see my earlier post ?
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