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Hey,
Does anyone else have problems with the delayed lock screen feature?
Settings -> Security -> Automatically Lock
(You need to have a pattern or pin unlock for the option to show up)
In there are delay settings, so the lock only activates after a set period of time. No matter what delay I pick, the screen lock activates instantly as soon as the screen turns off.
I was wondering if this happened for anyone else, before I post an issue with Google.
The weird thing is I'm sure it worked at one point, but I've tried a factory reset and it still doesn't work with a fresh handset.
Cheers
Do you use a (corporate) exchange account on your phone? I think I read somewhere that Exchange security settings can override the delay and force the phone to lock instantaneous.
gokpog said:
Do you use a (corporate) exchange account on your phone? I think I read somewhere that Exchange security settings can override the delay and force the phone to lock instantaneous.
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I do yeah, but I tried with a clean factory reset and it still happens
I don't know exactly how Exchange accounts work - If my device ID was registered with the Exchange server, would it still enforce the security settings even though the email account is not on the phone any more? (i.e. a factory reset).
Shodney said:
Hey,
Does anyone else have problems with the delayed lock screen feature?
Settings -> Security -> Automatically Lock
(You need to have a pattern or pin unlock for the option to show up)
In there are delay settings, so the lock only activates after a set period of time. No matter what delay I pick, the screen lock activates instantly as soon as the screen turns off.
I was wondering if this happened for anyone else, before I post an issue with Google.
The weird thing is I'm sure it worked at one point, but I've tried a factory reset and it still doesn't work with a fresh handset.
Cheers
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I have set a 5 minute delay on the lock and it has been working perfectly.
I cannot think of a reason why you are not able to apart from your Exchange set up.
I don't use Exchange and also have this issue... no matter what I set the delay at, it always locks.
I removed the Exchange account from my phone, and got the server admin to delete my device ID from the system - but it still locks instantly when the screen goes off, so it doesn't look like that's the problem.
How odd...
Anyone have any more info on this? It's pretty irritating and don't want to do a factory rest if I can avoid it!
Shodney said:
I removed the Exchange account from my phone, and got the server admin to delete my device ID from the system - but it still locks instantly when the screen goes off, so it doesn't look like that's the problem.
How odd...
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Did you remove the device administrator you create (at least in 2.x) when you accept the Exchange security policies? Might still be there I guess.
I think the timer only kicks in when the screen turns off by itself not when you hit the lock button. Try letting the screen goto sleep and see if the delay works.
balto said:
I think the timer only kicks in when the screen turns off by itself not when you hit the lock button. Try letting the screen goto sleep and see if the delay works.
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Oh yeah
Seems slightly odd behaviour - I'm used to the CM7 way where it would delay the lock whether you turned the screen off manually or not.
Cheers
balto said:
I think the timer only kicks in when the screen turns off by itself not when you hit the lock button. Try letting the screen goto sleep and see if the delay works.
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Oh... yeah, that worked! As Shodney said, seems strange as I come from a ROM (Android Revolution HD) that doesn't care if the screen times out or if you press power - it starts the timer from then.
To be honest I prefer the "old" behaviour - I like having a long "awake" time on my screen so it doesn't go off while I'm reading a web page or whatever and to turn it off manually to save battery. But I don't like it locking straight away! Guess I just have to live with it for now. Thanks for the answer anyway.
I find it weird too. The sgs2 was the same way. There is a great app called delaylock (https://market.android.com/details?id=de.j4velin.delayedlock2&hl=en) on the market that will make the lock work the as cm7 not sure it works on ics yet, I plan on trying it when my phone gets here Friday.
Glad I could clear all the confusion on this setting.
Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
Gary02468 said:
Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
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Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
Kamau54 said:
Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
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It turns off when I disable S Voice. If I try to turn it back on, it tells me I need to enable S Voice first.
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
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And does that let you use "Ok Google" recognition from all screens (including the lockscreen)? For me, that option in the Google Now settings is greyed out unless I disable S Voice.
No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
Exactly correct.
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No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
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Works great. Thank you!
Ok Google Fix
This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
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This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
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Used to
Worked at stage 3. Reenabling S Voice rebroke OkGoogle. RE Disabled S Voice. All that's changed is either the screen must be on or it must be plugged in. Like my Note Pro. Used to just need to be on..screen off and all.
That's a change with Lollipop and not a "problem." (now it is screen on or charging) It appears Ok Google no longer works with the screen off by design, at least on the Note 4.
I can keep S Voice on after doing the steps. (Though I have since turned it off) Try doing all the steps and while in safe mode turn off then on the settings. It's possible this makes Ok Google the "default" over S Voice.
So other phones like the Sony Xperia and LG V-Series phones have a feature where the phone can detect your eyes and/or face while you are reading something on the screen while NOT touching it. This feature is MOST helpful when reading whatever is on the screen and NOT wanting it to shut off either.
For whatever crazy reason, the HTC 10 does NOT have this feature! And when I try to install 3rd party apps in order to make this an option, I always have some issue come up that doesn't let it work. Does ANYONE have a way around this that DOESN'T involve bootloader unlocking and/or rooting????????! It is so frustrating to me that HTC did not think to put this on a 2016 FLAGSHIP natively.
Thanks!
Why not just adjust the screen timeout settings? Not exactly what you're looking for but it'll do the job.
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Why not just adjust the screen timeout settings? Not exactly what you're looking for but it'll do the job.
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Well b/c I wanna save battery life. I'm not ALWAYS reading the screen, and I don't want it to stay on longer than needed. I just can't believe HTC didn't think of this. I LOVE this phone except for 1) This very issue and 2) The fact that when you enable ANY kind of security measure on the phone involving the lockscreen, Double Tap To Sleep ONLY works if you're ON the lockscreen (a lesser issue to me, but still). Both LG and and Sony have this same option, and NEITHER has any issue with it. You just double tap the screen to turn the screen off, and no problem. The apps I got that DID let the double tap to sleep work also disable the security settings, which isn't cool Just can't believe HTC didn't think of this.
They could fix BOTH issues with updates, but who knows if they will.
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hi com,
This app is a step in the RIGHT direction, but it keeps the screen, on where I need something that scans for my eyes and/or face so I can read the screen comfortably and not feel rushed to touch the screen to keep it on.
I'll write to the developer though since he seems cool.
Thanks!!
Set it to 30 minutes or an hour (Which isn't possible on Samsung phones (10 min max so they have to waste unnecessary battery life with useless smart stay which is crap at night), and turn your screen off manually like everyone else.
Custom roms allow holding home button to sleep or various other options.
If you switch to viper ROM, there's a quick setting called "caffeine" it will keep your screen on until manually shut off or set period of time
Jonathan-H said:
Set it to 30 minutes or an hour (Which isn't possible on Samsung phones (10 min max so they have to waste unnecessary battery life with useless smart stay which is crap at night), and turn your screen off manually like everyone else.
Custom roms allow holding home button to sleep or various other options.
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I could do that, but I'd rather not. lol
I ended up finding an app called Wakey which when you get the full version, it keeps the screen on for any specific apps you choose until you either manually shut the screen off yourself or else leave/close out of those apps. So basically it's been resolved.
Is there anyway to turn off the screen with the home button and then be able to use the fingerprint scanner to unlock?
Advanced features > side key.
For the locking part, there is an app called home button actions, but good lock would give you more functions , as to unlock, there is a double tap option, as LG devices have had since some time
I really appreciate the answers but still looking for an easy way to long press the home button to turn off the screen and have it turn back on with the fingerprint sensor.
stu5797 said:
I really appreciate the answers but still looking for an easy way to long press the home button to turn off the screen and have it turn back on with the fingerprint sensor.
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Nova - gestures, home button, screen lock.
Always on display - active, fingerprint unlock turned on.
I think this is the closest you can get. I don't think the fingerprint is active while the screen's completely off.
If you want the screen completely off, you'll have to use the lift to wake option, that way it turns on as soon as you pick up your phone. You'll have to turn that option on in the phone settings.
Edit: "Nova".
20degrees said:
Nove - gestures, home button, screen lock.
Always on display - active, fingerprint unlock turned on.
I think this is the closest you can get. I don't think the fingerprint is active while the screen's completely off.
If you want the screen completely off, you'll have to use the lift to wake option, that way it turns on as soon as you pick up your phone. You'll have to turn that option on in the phone settings.
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Nove?
live_in_the_sky06 said:
Nove?
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Auto correct. Should say "Nova". As in nova launcher.
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Auto correct. Should say "Nova". As in nova launcher.
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OK great! Thank you
stu5797 said:
I really appreciate the answers but still looking for an easy way to long press the home button to turn off the screen and have it turn back on with the fingerprint sensor.
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A single press turns off the screen and pressing the fingerprint sensor when the screen is off turns on the phone. You can set a long press to bring up power off menu.
Just press the power button and the screen will turn off. The easiest way
You can also use "good lock" and the navstar plugin to create a power button shortcut.
Double Tap apk
I use the Double Tap apk. Simple double tap anywhere on the screen to turn t off.
May not work with Android Q though as it's an over lay... works perfectly with Pie.
blackhawk said:
I use the Double Tap apk. Simple double tap anywhere on the screen to turn t off.
May not work with Android Q though as it's an over lay... works perfectly with Pie.
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Do you have a link for that app?
I use the app "DTSO" from the Google Play Store & it works fine on every device mfg except for Samsung. It works on the initial setup, but, subsequent attempts & it does nothing.
On all other devices, I'm able to use a DTSO widget for double tap, on & off.,with no problems.
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Do you have a link for that app?
I use the app "DTSO" from the Google Play Store & it works fine on every device mfg except for Samsung. It works on the initial setup, but, subsequent attempts & it does nothing.
On all other devices, I'm able to use a DTSO widget for double tap, on & off.,with no problems.
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If you're running on Android Q I don't think it will work as it's an overlay. Uses no data; well behaved.
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If you're running on Android Q I don't think it will work as it's an overlay. Uses no data; well behaved.
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Yeah, too bad. Just checked the date of the last update to that app, been a good while, pre-dating Android 10 (Q).
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Do you have a link for that app?
I use the app "DTSO" from the Google Play Store & it works fine on every device mfg except for Samsung. It works on the initial setup, but, subsequent attempts & it does nothing.
On all other devices, I'm able to use a DTSO widget for double tap, on & off.,with no problems.
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Yeah, too bad. Just checked the date of the last update to that app, benn a good while, pre-dating Android 10 (Q).
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One of the reasons I'm not going to Q. I have a couple overlay apps that work well and I use.
The added "security" is a bad joke at a high cost to functionality.
blackhawk said:
One of the reasons I'm not going to Q. I have a couple overlay apps that work well and I use.
The added "security" is a bad joke at a high cost to functionality.
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Part, if not all of that, is a Samsung limitation, the app I'm using, DTSO, is similar to the one you referenced, it's an overlay/widget & it works just fine on my stock/unrooted OnePlus 7 Pro & it's running Android 10/Q.
The DTSO app never worked properly pre-dating Android 10 on any Samsung devices I've owned, & I tried other similar apps & the same results.
Regardless, it's a head-scratcher as to why Samsung doesn't build in the functionality, a la LG, perhaps it's a Knox thing limiting it, IDK......
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Part, if not all of that, is a Samsung limitation, the app I'm using, DTSO, is similar to the one you referenced, it's an overlay/widget & it works just fine on my stock/unrooted OnePlus 7 Pro & it's running Android 10/Q.
The DTSO app never worked properly pre-dating Android 10 on any Samsung devices I've owned, & I tried other similar apps & the same results.
Regardless, it's a head-scratcher as to why Samsung doesn't build in the functionality, a la LG, perhaps it's a Knox thing limiting it, IDK......
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Another option is One Handed Operation Plus. You can set gesture control screen off and much more. I wuv this apk. Up to 6 different discreet switch zones and up to 6 switches per zone. Very low power consumption and reliable. Perfect companion to fill in those unused curve screen zones, a brilliant apk.
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Since I'm not using a screen lock the double tap on/off is great. Samsung marketing is like a box of rabid gerbils; absurd and unpredictable.
However when it comes to unrooted phone customization, Samsung is hands down the best.
A plain Jane Apple would bore me to death...
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Another option is One Handed Operation Plus. You can set gesture control screen off and much more.
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THX for the heads up, I've had this app for a while now, missed that option, now using down swipe for screen off, this works for me.
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Part, if not all of that, is a Samsung limitation, the app I'm using, DTSO, is similar to the one you referenced, it's an overlay/widget & it works just fine on my stock/unrooted OnePlus 7 Pro & it's running Android 10/Q.
The DTSO app never worked properly pre-dating Android 10 on any Samsung devices I've owned, & I tried other similar apps & the same results.
Regardless, it's a head-scratcher as to why Samsung doesn't build in the functionality, a la LG, perhaps it's a Knox thing limiting it, IDK......
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THX for the heads up, I've had this app for a while now, missed that option, now using down swipe for screen off, this works for me.
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The long stroke gestures aren't as reliable.
Useful for Apks that get inadvertently triggered like flashlight, ha-ha.
Occasionally it gets triggered when cut and pasting but it integrates in pretty well. Adjusting the zone size and placement can help prevent this.
Plus you can have the touch zone indicator any color or transparency setting you like or none al all.
Great touch for custom themes.
Making use of the customization Samsung apps takes the Note 10+ to a completely new level.
Outstanding... and very resource/battery friendly.
I have a S20 ultra ATT, and I setup Smart Lock to unlock the phone when I am at my house. 95% of the time, it does not work, I have to use my fingerprint instead. I have edited the address multiple times using Google maps and the location is accurate, but I can't get it to unlock most of the times.
Not sure if this is related to the GPS issues people have been experiencing with their S20
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I have a S20 ultra ATT, and I setup Smart Lock to unlock the phone when I am at my house. 95% of the time, it does not work, I have to use my fingerprint instead. I have edited the address multiple times using Google maps and the location is accurate, but I can't get it to unlock most of the times.
Not sure if this is related to the GPS issues people have been experiencing with their S20
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I'm having the same issue. No one chiming in, though I can't imagine it's just the two of us.
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I guess not a lot of people use this feature.
I started using it since I was tired of putting my finger on the screen everything I want to unlock the phone when I am at home and using it a lot
I got this issue on S8, S9+ and S10+. Since then I use Bixby Routines to do such things and this is working fine.
S8 s10+ and s20 ultra all fail to work properly with the smart Lock location setting. It hasn't gotten any better, just like the fingerprint scanner.
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I use bixby routine, when you choose location you can widen the circle
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Maybe the GPS goes to sleep when the phone is locked?
This is what separates apple from the rest
I can't believe they put out a feature out there knowing it is not working.
What's weird is that on my phone during the lock screen, it says phone unlocked by smart lock. When I swipe it takes me to the fingerprint lol
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What's weird is that on my phone during the lock screen, it says phone unlocked by smart lock. When I swipe it takes me to the fingerprint lol
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I actually figured out. You have to swipe up from the very very bottom of the phone if it says phone unlocked by smart lock.. Kinda taking that verbiage and dragging it up. Also I set my location in Google as coordinates not the actual address. I dropped the pin close to my actual location and set that as my home.