Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
Gary02468 said:
Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
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Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
Kamau54 said:
Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
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It turns off when I disable S Voice. If I try to turn it back on, it tells me I need to enable S Voice first.
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
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And does that let you use "Ok Google" recognition from all screens (including the lockscreen)? For me, that option in the Google Now settings is greyed out unless I disable S Voice.
No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
Exactly correct.
erick161 said:
No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
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Works great. Thank you!
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This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
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This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
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Used to
Worked at stage 3. Reenabling S Voice rebroke OkGoogle. RE Disabled S Voice. All that's changed is either the screen must be on or it must be plugged in. Like my Note Pro. Used to just need to be on..screen off and all.
That's a change with Lollipop and not a "problem." (now it is screen on or charging) It appears Ok Google no longer works with the screen off by design, at least on the Note 4.
I can keep S Voice on after doing the steps. (Though I have since turned it off) Try doing all the steps and while in safe mode turn off then on the settings. It's possible this makes Ok Google the "default" over S Voice.
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Hi guys:
I have noticed a weird thing, I know there's a feature that you can say "google" after holding the home button and drag it to the google icon to activate the voice search. It works fine on me for a while, but I realized that after a while it doesn't work. Moreover, after a reboot, it would work again. Regular voice search still works fine by pressing the microphone button. Anyone know what's going on? I am on stock jellybean btw, but only rooted.
So it only works every now and again?
Also dragging any of the soft buttons up opens google now.
I have the same issue. The hotword option just randomly disappears. If you go into Google Now/Settings/Voice, the option to toggle it off and on is even gone. When you reboot it comes back, but then randomly disappears again at some point.
I had the same problem and realized i had the language under Google Now/settings/voice/language set to English (Australian).
After changing it back to Default-English (US), I have been able to consistently see the "say Google" option in the main Google Now page.
I have exactly the same problem, the language is always English (US), it still randomly disappears.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769846
Do you use Light flow? I have noticed toggling "Accessibility" off and on when Light flow glitches out for me, or using Swype seems to kill hotword detection. Rebooting always seems to bring it back though
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I use both, light flow and Swype Beta. Which is killing the hot word detection ? How are they interfering anyway :s
I know from reading the issues log Light flow uses the Accessibility service. When you toggle Accessibility on and off, hotword detection disappears. It will just say "Search" in Google Now instead of Search or say Google. Dont know why but try it and youll see best way to avoid it is to not toggle that or just reboot after it happens
is there a good replacement for light flow ?
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I use both, light flow and Swype Beta. Which is killing the hot word detection ? How are they interfering anyway :s
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I only use lightflow, not swype, so I am sure lightflow will interfere for sure.
the same problem in here
just got an update of lightflow - we'll see how it rolls
anyway google now 'google' saying works only when EN(US) is set as language
what is more - i see that any internal integration (e.g. saying 'set timer for 10 minutes') works as well only when the overall system language is set to EN(US)
I noticed this last week also. When it wouldnt respond to saying "Google" it didnt say "Search, or say Google" in the textbox on the voice Search (Google Now) page.
I uninstalled Lightflow and not had any issues since.
I've noticed that the hot word and hot word option only appears when you have English us set.
Change to English uk and they both don't work, also the other hot word functions, send email etc don't work as well.
Disabling light flow and restarting the phone fixes it.
Ive tried looking on the forums and on google.com i have found a lot of stuff stating the same problems but no fixes. So if someone could either explain to me the problem or a solution that would be awesome.
FOr some reason on the Note 2 and S3 i think for that matter Google now wont work 100%
1. if you press menu the menu pops up for a sec and then disappears. only way around this is if you press in the search bar as if you were going to type then you can press menu.
2. I no longer have the little picture at the top that shows either the sun (if its day light) or the moon (if its night) its just the search bar with all my recent searches under it which is super annoying. If i use the fix above to get to the settings and turn google now off and then on i get my little picture back until i leave Google now. then its gone again.
Like I said in the other thread. I was able to uninstall the updates for Google Search and all is well for me.
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Like I said in the other thread. I was able to uninstall the updates for Google Search and all is well for me.
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Before updating google now, go into google now settings/voice/hotword detection and turn it off. Menu button will work fine after the upgrade. Some issue with hotword detection and Note 2.
OK Google hotword detection doesn't work at all for me. I can manually select the microphone in Google Now and voice search works, but it doesn't detect OK Google. Furthermore I can't set up OK Google hotword detection from any screen. I can get to the screen where it says to say OK Google three times, which I do, but nothing at all happens. Audio History is on, language is English (US). I don't see any setting on the phone or in Google that would seem to block it.
Weirdly this post was originally only going to be about setting up the hotword detection from any screen, I've never been able to set that up, but at the very least, detection from Google Now worked fine. But just testing it when typing this post up, I realized that even that doesn't work anymore, but it did like a week ago.
I'm rooted but basically stock, no custom recovery. Only change would be deleting a couple stock apps and adding back/home/menu softkeys at the bottom of the screen. What gives? Anyone have an idea?
Simple as disabling on screen phone in settings
I had the same problem and disabling on screen phone in settings fixed it instantly.
Is anyone else having an issue with Google voice search always listening and not launching on the ok google command? Ive tried to re train several times now, turning off the settings rebooting, and then turning them all back on again, but i still almost always have to manually launch Google search.
What's funny, is both my old galaxy s3 and nexus 7 hear me, and auto launch, but the new note 4 doesn't.
Had anyone seen a fix for this issue anywhere?
Gareee said:
Is anyone else having an issue with Google voice search always listening and not launching on the ok google command? Ive tried to re train several times now, turning off the settings rebooting, and then turning them all back on again, but i still almost always have to manually launch Google search.
What's funny, is both my old galaxy s3 and nexus 7 hear me, and auto launch, but the new note 4 doesn't.
Had anyone seen a fix for this issue anywhere?
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Are you using a different lockscreen, or no lockscreen?
When I tried AcDisplay and the Microsoft Next lockscreen, OK Google wouldnt work with the phone off. It also wouldnt work if I had lockscreen set to "None"
Also, i think you need to have the Google Text to speech selected for it to work. I recall selecting the Samsung TTS engine once and it didnt work.
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Are you using a different lockscreen, or no lockscreen?
When I tried AcDisplay and the Microsoft Next lockscreen, OK Google wouldnt work with the phone off. It also wouldnt work if I had lockscreen set to "None"
Also, i think you need to have the Google Text to speech selected for it to work. I recall selecting the Samsung TTS engine once and it didnt work.
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Another note. If you set up for phone to always listen per that other thread regarding Google Search "Ok Google" waking phone from sleep, I found after setting up secure lockscreen unlock using the fingerprint scanner, this option to wake the phone no longer works. Don't know if that is any part of your issue as described or not.
Standard lock screen, no fingerprint lock. I think i corrected it b qith b a suggestion in a post about this at android authority.
They suggested checki n g the samsung svoice settings, and setting it to the opposite of what it was set as. In my case, I had to turn svoice "wakeup on lock" off.
I suspect a conflict between svoice and google voice search.
As the title suggests, anyone know of a quick way to achieve this?
I'd love something like a quick toggle or widget.
It may be possible to add a shortcut to the activity, via a custom launcher like Nova, to bring up the Google Assistant settings menu. Which would offer some speed compared manually navigating there.
Though if someone knows of a widget or quick toggle addition which I've not been able to find, let us know!
Also similarly, how do find the battery hit, if any, by having "Hey Google" voice activation running all the time?
Goggle Assistant is one of the first packages I disable. Temporarily disabling Google play Services might kill it too... lol, I run like that most of the time. You need to disable find my device as a Administrative Assistant first probably to do that.
Package Disabler allows you to set a widget to toggle selected package on/off real time. It's primarily for Samsung phones but there's a version for other phone manufacturers. I never tested that variant. They respond to emails.
blackhawk said:
Goggle Assistant is one of the first packages I disable. Temporarily disabling Google play Services might kill it too... lol, I run like that most of the time. You need to disable find my device as a Administrative Assistant first probably to do that.
Package Disabler allows you to set a widget to toggle selected package on/off real time. It's primarily for Samsung phones but there's a version for other phone manufacturers. I never tested that variant. They respond to emails.
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Hmm but if I disable it then it'll indeed be completely disabled.
Perhaps I should have been more explicit, its the "Hey Google" voice detection I'd like to quickly toggle on/off.
I have Google speakers at home, but for example, it'd be great to be able to toggle my phone to respond to the voice command with the flick of a switch (home screen widget perhaps) rather than go through the settings, which of course would be pure laziness and save me a few seconds. But, this is Android after all, anything is possible
cd993 said:
Hmm but if I disable it then it'll indeed be completely disabled.
Perhaps I should have been more explicit, its the "Hey Google" voice detection I'd like to quickly toggle on/off.
I have Google speakers at home, but for example, it'd be great to be able to toggle my phone to respond to the voice command with the flick of a switch (home screen widget perhaps) rather than go through the settings, which of course would be pure laziness and save me a few seconds. But, this is Android after all, anything is possible
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Problem is Google is a vampire of a data miner and not to be trusted. Do you really want it to have mic or camera access at all?
Especially in your home?
I've never explored toggling it, just killing it.
Samsung's bixby is another one, after reading its eula it was so disabled
blackhawk said:
Problem is Google is a vampire of a data miner and not to be trusted. Do you really want it to have mic or camera access at all?
Especially in your home?
I've never explored toggling it, just killing it.
Samsung's bixby is another one, after reading its eula it was so disabled
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I certainly understand peoples hesitancy with Google and such privacy concerns, but I for one aren't that fussed.... I have my speakers listening and it doesn't bother me....
Each to their own though and yeah I can see why you and others choose to disable such features entirely
it already has a tile in quick settings called Mic Access for me. does exactly what you want.
Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?
Az Biker said:
Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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No, they're talking about the ability to say "Hey Google" or "Okay Google" to get their phone to start listening. The previous poster's suggestion about the Mic access Quick Tile might be the best answer.
The OP is looking for a way to temporarily turn off it's ability to be woken up by voice command, and to just as easily re-enable it.
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it already has a tile in quick settings called Mic Access for me. does exactly what you want.
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This is kind of a solution, though this would also disable all mic access presumably and not just per-app, so I'd need to toggle it back on to make phone calls etc.
I probably just need to not be lazy and manually go to the setting when needed lol
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Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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Thanks, though specifically I'd like to be able to toggle the hey Google voice detection. Eg it not listening all the time, but at the flick of a switch, listen for it and activate the assistant
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Thanks, though specifically I'd like to be able to toggle the hey Google voice detection. Eg it not listening all the time, but at the flick of a switch, listen for it and activate the assistant
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Maybe a combination of Tasker and Auto Voice will work? Idk, but check out the thread below where someone talks about an "always listening" mode. May be too much effort for the result though.
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...t-to-toggle-ok-google-detection-always-on-off
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Maybe a combination of Tasker and Auto Voice will work? Idk, but check out the thread below where someone talks about an "always listening" mode. May be too much effort for the result though.
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...t-to-toggle-ok-google-detection-always-on-off
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Thanks for this, will have a look into it.
Appreciated!