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Love CM, and enjoy trying out new roms/builds on my phone regularly.
I just bought a SGS2 on ATT about a week ago, and after a few days running stock, i am now on the newest CM KANG build.
It runs great, but my only concern (sort of) is battery life. When flashing CM, or any non i777 rom on my phone, there are drawbacks. Its not horrible, and deifnitley something i can live with, but im wondering is the nexus phones are faced with the same issues.
For example, my standby drain when using the stock rom w/o root was about 12-15% after using it minimally for 7 hours. That same use with CM is about double, which still isnt THAT bad.
Ive never owned a nexus phone, but im wondering how CM performs, and if there are any drawbacks to flashing CM over the stock rom that comes installed on the device.
As someone who flashes a lot, and someone who is starting to get tired of troubleshooting bugs, should i consider selling my SGS2 and gettings a nexus prime?
Cm is best on nexus phones.
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I've used CM on both my Nexus One and currently running it on my Nexus S. While I did enjoy it on the N1, it's been unstable on my NS.
I've maybe done one or two battery pulls when I was running the stock ROM on my Nexus S (in a 9 months period). Ever since I've switched to CM7, it seems I do about 4-5 battery pulls a week. And the battery life has been inconsistent. I'm getting ready to revert back to stock. In my case, the added features of CM7 do not outweigh the reliability I was experiencing on the stock ROM.
Once I get the Galaxy Nexus, I'll definitely rock the stock ICS build for as long I can.
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I've used CM on both my Nexus One and currently running it on my Nexus S. While I did enjoy it on the N1, it's been unstable on my NS.
I've maybe done one or two battery pulls when I was running the stock ROM on my Nexus S (in a 9 months period). Ever since I've switched to CM7, it seems I do about 4-5 battery pulls a week. And the battery life has been inconsistent. I'm getting ready to revert back to stock. In my case, the added features of CM7 do not outweigh the reliability I was experiencing on the stock ROM.
Once I get the Galaxy Nexus, I'll definitely rock the stock ICS build for as long I can.
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hmmmm, i thought CM is just an AOSP rom that is skinned and modded, so maybe the problem isnt the incompabilties with the hardware, but that CM is actually bad on battery life itself.
The rom that nexus phones use are just AOSP roms with google apps installed right?
In all politeness to Cyanogen and G8D love him for his work on the android platform. I would never run one of his roms on my phone.
I have never really been that impressed with the actual running of the roms. They are great full featured produces but from my experience with them they have never been the best rom for a device.
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hmmmm, i thought CM is just an AOSP rom that is skinned and modded, so maybe the problem isnt the incompabilties with the hardware, but that CM is actually bad on battery life itself.
The rom that nexus phones use are just AOSP roms with google apps installed right?
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No skin. Extra features. More tweaked than modded really.
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Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Why do we need more roms? The current ones provide everything we need.
Same complaints about the epic touch, six months later there's a ridiculous amount of ROMs to flash.
it's better to have a few very good roms than a lot of roms that are not so good.
I just counted 25 ROMs in the dev section. Should our phones be walking to the store for us?
What more do you need??
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Well take a look at the nexus s forum. there's a rom for everyone! One Can never have too much choice! And again it was just a question. No Need to get all defensive.
less roms equals the nest selection
I think the reason is that a couple of roms got such a headstart in users and features, the devs don't see a demand. Sometimes it seems like over half the GNex owners use aokp, myself included.
For me it's surprising to see so little in flashable mods. I'd love to try some roms, but they don't have a customizable lock screen or notification toggles. To me those are must haves, so I stick with aokp. Maybe when cyanogenmod finally goes stable, devs can use it as a base for great roms.
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I can see what you mean. I also came from the Nexus S, and I did notice that there are a lot more ROMS for it. But it seems like there is no low quality roms for the Gnex. It really is a casse of quality over quantity. And we also have some groundbreaking roms here, such as paranoidandroid.
Quality v.s. quantity.
Are you looking for ROMs built from ASOP or ROMS that are just a klang of another with skins?
IMHO, ASOP or CM9 is all that a person needs. Then add what you want and ignore the rest.
I think as far as ROMS go we have hit a plateau. Until the next release (assuming there are new features) nearly everything is available over the ROMS we currently have. I can see a few kernels coming up with new ideas but I think ROMS are as up to speed as we can expect for a while
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Well take a look at the nexus s forum. there's a rom for everyone! One Can never have too much choice! And again it was just a question. No Need to get all defensive.
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The fact the Nexus S has been around for a lot longer, that can happen.
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Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Gotta be careful what you say around here. I had opened up a similar thread where I was "complaining" about the Rom Support for the nexus and got flamed big time as effect.
Just watch out around here.. they don't like opinions
But coming from a sgs 2 I also was dissapointed to not find hundreds of different Roms for the nexus as there were for the galaxy s 2. Also every Rom on the nexus looks about the same and has about the same Features while for the galaxy they really differed.
I'm on bamf with bond Kernel and love them. But also waiting for an update from both since weeks....
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wait till jelly bean comes out
we have less ROMs coz they're all based on ICS , nexus S has various gingerbread versions too, not to mention it's been there for quite some time. as someone already said, basically we have everything we need with the current ROMs, except ParanoidAndroid, the only new idea could be a port of sense or tw for example, but then there's the same problem with drivers, certain hardware not working and so on.. Some people think for instance, that buying HTC or Samsung devices will give them more options, sense/TW roms and aosp/miui , and it does sound good in theory , but the reality is that u will always end up with a buggy AOSP experience (there's always something that's not working right-been through many devices and it's the same story all over again).
As a conclusion, people should make a little research before getting a device, if u like what sense or TW (or any other custom UI) offers u , then u should consider that device, if u want a real AOSP experience then the nexus is ur best choice. Not to mention that if u have a fetish to change the way ur UI looks u can always get a 3rd party launcher, AOSP handles it best coz sense or TW occupy more RAM and running a market launcher on top of all this just makes it worse.
yeah a lot of you guys make sense. I guess with all the options on the nexus s I had become a bit of a crack flasher. I just enjoyed trying out new and different roms and playing with them. but as someone just said here earlier all the ones here are pretty much the same. I'm using aokp now and I like it. I just also like other stuff too lol
thanks for your opinions everyone! keep em coming! great reading
I agree. I miss my galaxy s2 i9100. That phone has the most development. I wanna give you a reason for more development... it was expensive but it was launched everywhere in the world. Second you can run 4 different (base) types of roms.
1) touchwiz gingerbread
2) cm7 aosp based gingerbread
3) touchwiz ICS
4) cm9 aosp based ics roms
So you can see how there are always roms to flash. I loved flashing early builds as well. So I encourage more devs to build different and unique roms rather than taking features from other roms. Thanks
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Consider it a blessing. Towards the dying days of the SE X10, most of the renowned devs had moved on and then we had a million different variations of every kind of rom you could think of. We had heaps of MIUI roms which were all identical but with a different theme. Same story with Cyanogen roms.
There's really no need to have a plethora of roms because they all end up being the same. Its better to have a selection of high quality roms to pick from.
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in my experience most of the roms available are just variations of stock **** by some kid who learned to deodex and root. because what the world really needs is another ****ty rom based on sense.
there are no GB roms, no roms based on some vendor-ruined stock build. just AOSP. there are few bugs, just awesome features. you don't need a ton of roms when you have that.
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I agree. I miss my galaxy s2 i9100. That phone has the most development. I wanna give you a reason for more development... it was expensive but it was launched everywhere in the world. Second you can run 4 different (base) types of roms.
1) touchwiz gingerbread
2) cm7 aosp based gingerbread
3) touchwiz ICS
4) cm9 aosp based ics roms
So you can see how there are always roms to flash. I loved flashing early builds as well. So I encourage more devs to build different and unique roms rather than taking features from other roms. Thanks
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I second that.
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while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
Wtf. Almost every cm10 or aokp rom has been updated nightly. Most touchwiz roms don't get updated since they are close to being finished since there are no bugs on stock roms.
If you want it to work good run touchwiz roms. With battery I get 15 to 25 hours and about 4 hours on screen time which is pretty heavy use. As for bugs none I know of on stock. Everything works flawlessly.
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you can use aokp, Its great!
While the International version has a ton of roms, the I747 has a good amount of solid builds. You can have your choice of stock ics touchwiz (ariel), jelly bean touchwiz leaks (aristodemos, serenity) and aosp jellybean hybrids (aokp, liquid smooth, paranoid android). All work perfectly with GPS locking on within 15 seconds max. Never had a problem.
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100$ outright or under contract? BB canada is 0$ on our crappy 3 year plan
Yea.... a lot of the TouchWiz ICS ROM's haven't had updates lately because there isn't really a whole lot for them to do with the ROM, since it was pretty much complete to begin with. Just about all they really did on them is remove bloat, add custom themes, and tweak some stuff here and there. The TouchWiz JB ROM's still get updated fairly regularly, since there are still tweaks to be made here and there, and things to be updated as new leaks arise. But stuff like Cyanogenmod and the different ROM's built off of it are updated daily or every other day or two.
Been using CM10 nightly and now on M2 stable build. I use it as daily driver and don't have any issues. You won't be disappointed OP
I'll give my two cents as I've had this phone for bout 4 days now and I am coming of iOS.
I am a fairly techy user. I I run Linux servers for fun. I am but never got jntk android because I figured I'd play with the phone more than use it and it would end up being broken half the time.
Immediately after getting it I rooted it and flashed the rom and have already tried CM10, two TW ROMs and whatever else I could get my hand on.
Ultimately for stability purposes I'm still on stock. The phone is really good in terms of use, and but be prepared to know that ROMing it is still an experimental thing and if you want it to work flawlessly, and you'll most probably sitting on stock (which is not a bad thing)
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not to hijack the thread..
but is Ariel the ATT equal of CleanRom for verizon?
I'm on SlimBean but battery isn't stellar... so going to try my luck at a touchwiz rom.
I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
I hope you got the phone today and I hope you enjoy it. Personally, I'm so satisfied with the stock rooted ROM that I've almost kicked my flashing addiction.
Almost.
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You can look under the original development page for some good stable roms like SlimBean, PA, and Aokp. All function well enough to be a DD.
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I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
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I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
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This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
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Exactly.
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TheNetwork said:
while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
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The GPS and Navigation is AMAZING on any Android phone.
Their Music app could use some work, however i do use the app PlayerPro
TouchWiz is pretty stable but i find gets slower with time and i think thats due to the fact that its running ICS. I would recommend flashing a custom ROM such as CM10 for JB which makes the OS run ALOT smoother.
The stock camera is also very good with alot of features.
Hopes this helps.
I know there are people on here who have had a lot of Samsung Android smartphones. I also know that Samsung isn't the most reliable when releasing updates for the current phones when a new device is about to be released. That is extremely frustrating when Samsung says they will give their customer base a new version of the Android OS, but then drop the updates or say they will give a set number of devices the latest version, but only keep their word for 2 out 3 devices. So my question is... Who on here thinks that we will get Android 4.3 this year and who thinks we will get it nest year?
Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic
Do u guys have an official link to what Samsung said? Cause all I remember was that the s3 was gettting update in October.
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Honestly I don't think it matters when it's released. Because soon as there's a leak out there for, some new firmware. The DEVS around here are going to be all over it. And we all know that. So I think that everyone should just sit back and wait a month or so... We should know something by then.
Just my 2¢®
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I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic
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that was for android 4.2.2 but then they decided to skip that for the n2 and go right to 4.3
The last update was supposed to be in February but was delayed until April. Not to optimistic about October.
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I for one, don't see why we need a 4.3 update. Run a 4.2 and 4.3 TW ROM side by side and you won't notice any difference. Samsung replaces the stock lock screen with it's own (bye bye lock screen widgets). And if you enable lock screen widgets, it's all messed-up, you a minuscule place to touch to switch to the next widget, so most of the time you end up going to clock settings.
Quick settings panel is really changed and at least for me TW notification drawer toggles are a lot more useful.
If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
Google has done a great job by starting to update core apps and apis through play store apps.
And IMHO 4.1.2 is a lot better than 4.2.2 which brought a lot of bugs memory leaks and lag.
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If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
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You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.
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You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.
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Either you have never used AOSP or you have not used a recent 4.3 build, they are pretty much rock solid, almost zero bugs(TW ROMs are full of bugs also), and battery life is the same as a TW ROM.
And I tend to use non-OEM apps just so I have the liberty to change ROMs whenever I want. Papyrus has worked great for me
Hi a total total newbie here I have no clue but I love to learn.
I really like the ElementalX kernel for my htc one m7 mainly because of the overclocking and undervolting for battery consumption and the doubletaptowake with some sound enhancement. I custom rommed lineage os 16.0(stable) Android 9.0 from the site and I tried installing ElementalX kernel 14.12 sense which was for Android 4.4.2 sense UI 6 and the newer ElementalX-m7-22.4-Sense, obviously it wouldn't work because none of them are built for Android 9 and it would just bootloop all over again. The phone is rooted and I did download some root-needed apps kernel editors but you know how they go.. I don't wanna go back to stock because of the newer apps I'm gonna miss out on
Is there any hope for me to find a kernel that sort of supports my purpose? Thanks in advance
I honestly can’t answer your question. Just wanted to say I’m impressed you’re still rocking the m7 after all these years.
Was an awesome phone when it came out, except for the battery consumption; and then Verizon dragging their feet, and eventually refusing to release official updates.
I eventually turned to custom ROMs for a couple years before I eventually moved onto an iPhone 5c. May not have been able to customize it. But, I knew Apple would keep the updates flowing for a while.
Good luck in your quest.
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Robertjm said:
I honestly can’t answer your question. Just wanted to say I’m impressed you’re still rocking the m7 after all these years.
Was an awesome phone when it came out, except for the battery consumption; and then Verizon dragging their feet, and eventually refusing to release official updates.
I eventually turned to custom ROMs for a couple years before I eventually moved onto an iPhone 5c. May not have been able to customize it. But, I knew Apple would keep the updates flowing for a while.
Good luck in your quest.
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I knowww tbh I'm still using the LG V20, the Samsung note edge and the Nexus 6(which I still love to this day and wouldn't sell) from time to time. The main problem I have with those devices was the battery life.. "was" as in not anymore since I changed the battery and they're workhorses back again but the m7 is a hurtful little thing. I opened it once and immediately regretted unscrewing the first screw. It's a mess and hardware alternation is my current options . Anyways thank you for your input. I appreciate it. I might as well downgrade to lineage OS 14.1 Android 7 and there's a custom kernel for the same LIOS14.1 which might be compatible.