Cyanogen experience - nexus phones vs Att SGS2 - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Love CM, and enjoy trying out new roms/builds on my phone regularly.
I just bought a SGS2 on ATT about a week ago, and after a few days running stock, i am now on the newest CM KANG build.
It runs great, but my only concern (sort of) is battery life. When flashing CM, or any non i777 rom on my phone, there are drawbacks. Its not horrible, and deifnitley something i can live with, but im wondering is the nexus phones are faced with the same issues.
For example, my standby drain when using the stock rom w/o root was about 12-15% after using it minimally for 7 hours. That same use with CM is about double, which still isnt THAT bad.
Ive never owned a nexus phone, but im wondering how CM performs, and if there are any drawbacks to flashing CM over the stock rom that comes installed on the device.
As someone who flashes a lot, and someone who is starting to get tired of troubleshooting bugs, should i consider selling my SGS2 and gettings a nexus prime?

Cm is best on nexus phones.
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I've used CM on both my Nexus One and currently running it on my Nexus S. While I did enjoy it on the N1, it's been unstable on my NS.
I've maybe done one or two battery pulls when I was running the stock ROM on my Nexus S (in a 9 months period). Ever since I've switched to CM7, it seems I do about 4-5 battery pulls a week. And the battery life has been inconsistent. I'm getting ready to revert back to stock. In my case, the added features of CM7 do not outweigh the reliability I was experiencing on the stock ROM.
Once I get the Galaxy Nexus, I'll definitely rock the stock ICS build for as long I can.

OctoPI said:
I've used CM on both my Nexus One and currently running it on my Nexus S. While I did enjoy it on the N1, it's been unstable on my NS.
I've maybe done one or two battery pulls when I was running the stock ROM on my Nexus S (in a 9 months period). Ever since I've switched to CM7, it seems I do about 4-5 battery pulls a week. And the battery life has been inconsistent. I'm getting ready to revert back to stock. In my case, the added features of CM7 do not outweigh the reliability I was experiencing on the stock ROM.
Once I get the Galaxy Nexus, I'll definitely rock the stock ICS build for as long I can.
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hmmmm, i thought CM is just an AOSP rom that is skinned and modded, so maybe the problem isnt the incompabilties with the hardware, but that CM is actually bad on battery life itself.
The rom that nexus phones use are just AOSP roms with google apps installed right?

In all politeness to Cyanogen and G8D love him for his work on the android platform. I would never run one of his roms on my phone.
I have never really been that impressed with the actual running of the roms. They are great full featured produces but from my experience with them they have never been the best rom for a device.

lourivellini said:
hmmmm, i thought CM is just an AOSP rom that is skinned and modded, so maybe the problem isnt the incompabilties with the hardware, but that CM is actually bad on battery life itself.
The rom that nexus phones use are just AOSP roms with google apps installed right?
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No skin. Extra features. More tweaked than modded really.
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[Q] Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast (4.0.3) available in ROM Manager?

I haven't seen anything official about this on his site or in any other forums. Has anyone flashed this? How's it running?
He also has stock and rooted rom there also.......if I wanted to be rooted and have a stock rom.... can I use this? Also if I could....which one do I use for LTE Verizon
Thanks
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mrdziuban said:
I haven't seen anything official about this on his site or in any other forums. Has anyone flashed this? How's it running?
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Yes sir I have flashed it this morning and until now I am loving it, hope nothing comes up to change that .
Pete makes a few little changes here and there, but I've tried his ROMs since the OG droid, and I gave them a fair chance (3 day period) and I always found myself going back to other developers.
It's not so much that I had issues running his ROM, it's just the other ROMs offered much more and had better performance. I gave his bugless another chance on the galaxy nexus, and history seems to repeat itself.
gummynex and rootzboat are both superior in my opinion.
paOol said:
Pete makes a few little changes here and there, but I've tried his ROMs since the OG droid, and I gave them a fair chance (3 day period) and I always found myself going back to other developers.
It's not so much that I had issues running his ROM, it's just the other ROMs offered much more and had better performance. I gave his bugless another chance on the galaxy nexus, and history seems to repeat itself.
gummynex and rootzboat are both superior in my opinion.
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Thanks for the input! I'm running GummyNex now and loving it. I'm just interested in exploring other options.
I'm currently running Mr. Alfonso's 12/20 nightly, and it's my favorite so far...basic, solid, pure 4.03. Other than that, I've flashed (in this order):
Bigxie's Stock 4.02 rooted with added autobrightness mod - compass was broken. Facebook fonts were invisible until i deleted a couple of corrupt font files.
Revolution HD 2.1.1 - Seemed fine...felt like stock 4.02 but clearly had been poked and prodded a bit.
ODIN image with no bootloader/no wipe/no recovery - i only flashed it to get as close to stock w/ CWM as possible. not sure it was worth the effort.
rootz boat - Solid, but it was missing a few niceties from the stock rom...seemingly for the sake of aosp purity? Bleh... Google apps issues were an annoyance, and a couple of the tweaks just seemed pointless. Also, while not much of an issue, it had a terribly obnoxious default wallpaper.
paOol said:
Pete makes a few little changes here and there, but I've tried his ROMs since the OG droid, and I gave them a fair chance (3 day period) and I always found myself going back to other developers.
It's not so much that I had issues running his ROM, it's just the other ROMs offered much more and had better performance. I gave his bugless another chance on the galaxy nexus, and history seems to repeat itself.
gummynex and rootzboat are both superior in my opinion.
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Other ROM developers make a bunch of pointless changes here and there, and I've been flashing their ROMs since the venerable HTC Dream. I give them a fair chance and often appreciate their work a great deal, but I always end up going back to the ROMs that provide me with a near-stock experience boasting added stability, better battery life, and solid performance. For my wife's OG droid, there's no question Pete's ROMs and kernels were at the top of the heap for most of that phone's lifespan. For my original t-mo galaxy s vibrant, birgertime nailed it with trigger.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with the gnex. I feel like we've got a ton of top-shelf talent descending upon this device, but I'm giving Pete the early lead based on track record and my early satisfaction with the 12/20 nightly.

What should be my first custom rom

Hi guys jus bought the galaxy nexus after a wonderful experience of galasy s .. plz suggest what should be my first rom on nexus..i like modifications.. i used slimics and teraslimics and sometime cynogen nightlies..
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Miui jb
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Codename android 3.3.0 jb 4.1.1 verzion gnex has sh1t tons of add ons and theme options
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AOKP Jelly Bean Build 1
http://aokp.co/index.php/releases/_/jellybean-build-1-r28
I suggest the official CM nightlies or Build 1 of AOKP JB.
Black bean
Like the others said,AOKP JellyBean Build 1
Is it necessary to flash bootloader and radio also when flashing a custom rom?
Basically thats the only thing holding me back now because im not sure.
I've already unlocked and rooted,just not ready yet for a custom rom :angel:
I'm new to the Gnex too, but spent two years trying to get an ancient Galaxy Spica 5700 to run CM7...
Got the Gnex about a week ago, and immediately started looking around here. I chose AndroidME CM10, because it looked good, and in the developement thread no one seemed to have problems, and they said the battery life was very good. I can't remember if it's GSM only though.... Anyway I'm very happy with it, no probs at all, and battery life is good. I see that generally in America all you guys who use Google Now and all that and have different network frequencies complain about battery life, but I don't really use the phone that much, and with this ROM I get a few days with minimal screen use. There are also two other ROMs by the same dev, a modded stock JB and an AOSP JB. I like the look of the new Codename android 3.3.1, but in the dev thread too many people have little problems, and after years of limited functionality on my old phone I just want something stable and nice, to relax for a while. At least until I get bored...
RE baseband, If you look around in the forum (General forum I think,) you'll find a page all about basebands and with packages to flash them all. On my GSM I had to change the baseband, because you can't use the original baseband with JB.
I dunno what modding the Galaxy S was like for you, but based on my past with my Spica I'm loving my first Nexus device, it's all so easy! Good Luck
Thats so easy!!!! Just go for CM10, then change to AOKP, then go all in Paranoid, then just flash Miui and be happy :highfive:
AndyGnex said:
Is it necessary to flash bootloader and radio also when flashing a custom rom?
Basically thats the only thing holding me back now because im not sure.
I've already unlocked and rooted,just not ready yet for a custom rom :angel:
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If you've already received the JB OTA, then the bootloader and radio are already up to date. You could always just flash a custom recovery and SU. I've been running rooted stock since I got my phone
Whatever you're first custom ROM is, BAMF Paradigm will be your last, because once you flash BAMF, you won't want/need to flash anything else
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Yup go MIUI JB it's the best,I run it with the james bond kernel
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ppog said:
I'm new to the Gnex too, but spent two years trying to get an ancient Galaxy Spica 5700 to run CM7...
Got the Gnex about a week ago, and immediately started looking around here. I chose AndroidME CM10, because it looked good, and in the developement thread no one seemed to have problems, and they said the battery life was very good. I can't remember if it's GSM only though.... Anyway I'm very happy with it, no probs at all, and battery life is good. I see that generally in America all you guys who use Google Now and all that and have different network frequencies complain about battery life, but I don't really use the phone that much, and with this ROM I get a few days with minimal screen use. There are also two other ROMs by the same dev, a modded stock JB and an AOSP JB. I like the look of the new Codename android 3.3.1, but in the dev thread too many people have little problems, and after years of limited functionality on my old phone I just want something stable and nice, to relax for a while. At least until I get bored...
RE baseband, If you look around in the forum (General forum I think,) you'll find a page all about basebands and with packages to flash them all. On my GSM I had to change the baseband, because you can't use the original baseband with JB.
I dunno what modding the Galaxy S was like for you, but based on my past with my Spica I'm loving my first Nexus device, it's all so easy! Good Luck
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Hey, I came from Spica too. That was so buggy and slow despite the attempts by various devs. Used it for 2 yrs. GNex is so much better.
Anyway for the OP. I wanted the stock experience initially. So i am on Android Revolution and stock kernel. Wifi reception is pretty poor. Many have reported that on different ROMS. Will have to try out different kernels or wait till google gives a fix. There are no other issues and battery life is good. But i am getting bored with stock. Might try Xenon HD.
Xenon is a great choice had it till the new MIUI came out. For kernels I have had the best battery life with james bond. Have not tried slim bean yet but I ran slim ics and it was great. I think the rom was only like 50 mb
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Stock.
For the love of god, stop asking and start doing!
Aokp build 1.. so far good
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Im using MiNCO right now on my GNEX and its running great and so far its the most stable ROM I've tried. I've tried XenonHD and RASCARLO. I've only had my GNEX for about a week and I'm about to try BAMF
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Codename is packed with features from many of the other ROMS. Been running fine for me, with Franco kernel
of course the CM10 nightlies!!

Possibly buying SGS III today

while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
Wtf. Almost every cm10 or aokp rom has been updated nightly. Most touchwiz roms don't get updated since they are close to being finished since there are no bugs on stock roms.
If you want it to work good run touchwiz roms. With battery I get 15 to 25 hours and about 4 hours on screen time which is pretty heavy use. As for bugs none I know of on stock. Everything works flawlessly.
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you can use aokp, Its great!
While the International version has a ton of roms, the I747 has a good amount of solid builds. You can have your choice of stock ics touchwiz (ariel), jelly bean touchwiz leaks (aristodemos, serenity) and aosp jellybean hybrids (aokp, liquid smooth, paranoid android). All work perfectly with GPS locking on within 15 seconds max. Never had a problem.
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100$ outright or under contract? BB canada is 0$ on our crappy 3 year plan
Yea.... a lot of the TouchWiz ICS ROM's haven't had updates lately because there isn't really a whole lot for them to do with the ROM, since it was pretty much complete to begin with. Just about all they really did on them is remove bloat, add custom themes, and tweak some stuff here and there. The TouchWiz JB ROM's still get updated fairly regularly, since there are still tweaks to be made here and there, and things to be updated as new leaks arise. But stuff like Cyanogenmod and the different ROM's built off of it are updated daily or every other day or two.
Been using CM10 nightly and now on M2 stable build. I use it as daily driver and don't have any issues. You won't be disappointed OP
I'll give my two cents as I've had this phone for bout 4 days now and I am coming of iOS.
I am a fairly techy user. I I run Linux servers for fun. I am but never got jntk android because I figured I'd play with the phone more than use it and it would end up being broken half the time.
Immediately after getting it I rooted it and flashed the rom and have already tried CM10, two TW ROMs and whatever else I could get my hand on.
Ultimately for stability purposes I'm still on stock. The phone is really good in terms of use, and but be prepared to know that ROMing it is still an experimental thing and if you want it to work flawlessly, and you'll most probably sitting on stock (which is not a bad thing)
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not to hijack the thread..
but is Ariel the ATT equal of CleanRom for verizon?
I'm on SlimBean but battery isn't stellar... so going to try my luck at a touchwiz rom.
I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
I hope you got the phone today and I hope you enjoy it. Personally, I'm so satisfied with the stock rooted ROM that I've almost kicked my flashing addiction.
Almost.
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You can look under the original development page for some good stable roms like SlimBean, PA, and Aokp. All function well enough to be a DD.
Jonnyredcorn said:
I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
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I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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t3chn0s1s said:
I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
thacounty said:
This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
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Exactly.
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TheNetwork said:
while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
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The GPS and Navigation is AMAZING on any Android phone.
Their Music app could use some work, however i do use the app PlayerPro
TouchWiz is pretty stable but i find gets slower with time and i think thats due to the fact that its running ICS. I would recommend flashing a custom ROM such as CM10 for JB which makes the OS run ALOT smoother.
The stock camera is also very good with alot of features.
Hopes this helps.

New dinc for me ROMs?

I bought the dinc after my commando was smashed by a semi last week. I have a little experience with custom roms and this is my third android based phone. I received the phone yesterday and it will be rooted by me tomorrow. But I wanted to know what roms you guys find to be best also any tweaks that are useful. This phone a three years old and I know you guys have come up with some dos and don't so rather than reinventing the wheel I figured IDE use my first post to list what I'm looking for and see what you recommend.
Stability stability stability! I won't be changing every week once I find one I like that will be it. I can't devote the time to constantly update and tweak it plus this is my daily driver so I need it to work above all else.
Speed I know these guys don't have the fastest processors so if i have to choose between load speed and looking cool or cute animations I choose speed.
Battery life I'm running a 2800 mah slim battery but I spent that money because I don't want to charge it not to waste battery life.
Media I do use my phone extensively to play music, watch, movies, photos,photos,photos, anything that optimizes these features I'm all about trying out.
Also anything I should stay away from do to extensive bugs ect please let me know. I will read all I can about these roms as you suggest them and of course report how they do for me here as well as the phandriod.com site. Thanks in advance for all the knowledge I'm about to get hit with ill try not to ask too many stupid questions
Sense roms or aosp gingerbread like cm 7.2 are the most stable.
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Sense roms or aosp gingerbread like cm 7.2 are the most stable.
Thanks tiny! There are soooo many of them which is good but are there any standouts? What are the major differences between the GB and the aosp? i know on my og evo the aosp roms seemed to save batt but that all i know and i don't really know that. I do like the miui icons tbh but I think I can use those with whatever rom but I like the minimalist if nature of the miui setup.
I have rooted three phones and installed custom roms on them but am really brand new to the android or smart phone game only been messing with droids for 3 months now. Idk just looking for info are there any seance or Gb roms you think I should stay away from.?
GeNYC07 said:
Sense roms or aosp gingerbread like cm 7.2 are the most stable.
Thanks tiny! There are soooo many of them which is good but are there any standouts? What are the major differences between the GB and the aosp? i know on my og evo the aosp roms seemed to save batt but that all i know and i don't really know that. I do like the miui icons tbh but I think I can use those with whatever rom but I like the minimalist if nature of the miui setup.
I have rooted three phones and installed custom roms on them but am really brand new to the android or smart phone game only been messing with droids for 3 months now. Idk just looking for info are there any seance or Gb roms you think I should stay away from.?
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This is pretty much the only evo. What was good on that device is good here. Rom names are different. If you want a pure stock sense rom then I recommend cmlusco's rom. CM 7.2 is the best aosp gingerbread rom IMO.
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tiny4579 said:
This is pretty much the only evo. What was good on that device is good here. Rom names are different. If you want a pure stock sense rom then I recommend cmlusco's rom. CM 7.2 is the best aosp gingerbread rom IMO.
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great do you have a link to both????

Why so few custom roms?

Hey there.
I'm coming from Asus Infinity TF700, which was a great tablet but had disastrous storage speed, which made it virtually unusable.
On the other hand, there was plenty of custom ROMs, from CM to Paranoid, and others.
I've done some digging through Tab S forums and it seems so far only 3 custom ROMs are available, and even those are not being developed or are based on stock.
Why is that? Not many devs have Tab S? No people with know-how?
Anything esle?
Are there more custom roms to be expect in the future?
I am actually not sure when this tablet came to market, but it seems like 5-6 months now.
Thx for all the info. Oh, and if anyone could recommend a custom rom for Tab S 10.5 (WiFi only) I would appreciate it.
BR
We have cm11, skyhigh kernels, stock based rom, and blissed rom is being working on now. The best custom rom for the tab s wifi is cm11 in which im running now. Its super fast and stable.
Thanks for info.
Would you be so kind and point me to the CM11 thread - i'm talking T-800, not T-700 for which i have found a thread. But i don't think it is compatible, is it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2921507
Apologies for going OT
Does CM11 support colour profiles?
Regards
Rob
I've just installed cm, and it works great so far.
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Apologies for going OT
Does CM11 support colour profiles?
Regards
Rob
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I dont think so. I think they are just trying to make it stable and make most things work just like stock rom.
Thanks for the info.
R
How About Battery Life? Is it better than stock?
I've recently discovered the awesomeness of Pure Nexus on my Galaxy S4 and I would absolutely kill to have a rom like this for my Tab S. Google edition experience is buttery smooth, incredible battery life and has really extended the life of my phone. I may try the CM11, but I really don't know if it could be better than a modified Nexus rom.
Tiamath99 said:
How About Battery Life? Is it better than stock?
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Ehh well it depends. When i installed a custom rom battery life was a tad shorter. But after a couple charges to get the battery calibrated its a bit the same but A bit better. To get more battery on cm11 what i did was underclock the cpu to 1.3 mhz and set the profile to power save. I now have six hours screen on time at 35 percent. So it may vary. If you dont change anything it would not change battery life but butter smooth.
solidsnake02 said:
I've recently discovered the awesomeness of Pure Nexus on my Galaxy S4 and I would absolutely kill to have a rom like this for my Tab S. Google edition experience is buttery smooth, incredible battery life and has really extended the life of my phone. I may try the CM11, but I really don't know if it could be better than a modified Nexus rom.
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its about as close as you will get at the moment, im a stock fan, and been using CM11 for 2 days, only has the tablet 3 days, and i must say its very nice.
Any android device with no official aosp support will always be boring and stagnant in custom development
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Any android device with no official aosp support will always be boring and stagnant in custom development
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That's truly unfortunate with the great hardware available on this device. It's what the Nexus should be!

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