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o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
Go for it you will love it if not sell it many will be after it if you don't like it.
Or you could wait for the zinc (feb 07 or so) if you can do without the gps in-built?
There is an issue with MicroSD's that possibly dosnt effect all units. See other threads.
Apart from that and if you clock it to 250MHz it works extremely well. I loved my BlueAngel but even my old stylus feels fat now. The jog dial / track ball is mega and internal GPS a breeze. The slower CPU also has the benefit of longer battery life.
I am currently looking for one for a friend on eBay and they are going for £300+ so if you dont like it can always sell and keep old phone...
ps. I use a Sandisk UltraII 2gb MicroSD which may speed up map access etc, its generally slightly slower than my 500MHz BlueAngel but no problem.
I'm a new user of the Xda Orbit, my first WM PDA after owning a tapwave zodiac and the first phone I can really type text messages on. For a PDA it's light, snappy (my last wm device was a Compaq Aero 15xx), has an excellent battery life and the GPS works a treat.
The biggest benefit is the size, though, compared to the other similarly featured Xda's in the o2 lineup this one is TINY, it dropped the jaws of my techy colleagues to the floor.
I find TomTom to be pretty fast and accurate getting a fix, route calculations are fast enough, but it is a little slow to start up initially- overclocking helps but not much. I have overclocked to 260 for PocketSNES and on other occasions but find it normally fast enough to be comfortable - quite a feat with a meer 200mhz!
I'd say go for it, I'm posting this message from Mine now! got 3 tabs open text-mode in NetFront- browsing perfection!
I have had the following:
XDA II
XDA IIs
XDA IIi
XDA Exec
And recently upgraded to the Orbit. I must say that it is the closest I have come to being 100% happy with an XDA.
Had no idea how compact this device is. No more holding a brick to your ear, this is an aesthetically pleasing device - even for non PDA'ers.
I haven't found anything that doesn't work yet. I thought the GPS would be just another gimick and there was no way it was going to work properly without an external antenna - WRONG! Stick TomTom 6.02 on it and away you go. Managed nearly seven hours of GPS directed driving before the battery got too low (have now got a car charger).
I have been waiting for a device that combined all the functionality of a good PDA and phone in a phone size package and here it is.............and they throw in a GPS and FM Radio to boot.
and one more thing if you get a decent set of headphones (either buy an adapter or do a bit of DIY soldering) it's a pretty decent MP3 player too. 2GB micro SD from Moby Memory for about £40 and painless synching with Media Player 11 and your away.
The main reason I have a PDA phone is for Terminal Server. I provide software support and it gives me the freedom to get out of the House/Office and still be able to support my Clients. I was always able to justify carrying around a house brick (EXEC) because of this. Now I don't have to this phone is great and I have to say it ..... Gorgeous.
OK now it's out - I love my Orbit!!!
Go get one - I'm pretty sure you'll be happy!
Hope this helped!
Since a couple of weeks ago, I'm also the proud owner of a HTC P3300, after owning a Qtek S100 for a year and a half.
I'm truly very happy with my new P3300.
Almost all of the features have been mentioned in other replies to your post (and I agree with them), so, I want to add that, despite having the same 64Mb of RAM as the S100, it seems to me (I'm no expert) that memory management works better (probably WM5 instead of WM2003 has something to to with it) than it did on the S100.
Also the new 2Mpixel camera works very well, the picture quality is very good. It doesn't have flash or 'macro mode' selector, but I can live without it.
The phone capabilities are good (I had a lot of problems with the S100 not relating phone numbers to names or contact photos).
Apart from a little problem I had with activesync (mentioned in another thread and already solved) it's been working perfectly.
As for the GPS softwares, I use Destinator 6 (instead of TomTom) and Navitel (with custom Madeira map) for navigation and both of them work perfectly.
Bottom line, and yes, I'll be repating myself, I'm very very happy with my P3300.
regards,
thanks for the advice guys! looks like im off to get myself one then!
How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
as far as i could see and i've read no it doesnt have an IR port, but surely using your phone as a tv remote isn't the be all and end all is it?
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I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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Hi
It doesn't have infrared, but if I where you I would treat myself to one of these
Link
I have one and along with the Orbit this remote is superb.
Rich
today i upgrade
T-Mobile mda compact 3 with HTC software and it is better then t-mobile software it is quickly
BUSPBP said:
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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I asked HTC about making this device with consumer grade IR and 3G to make this a complete device. This is the response i got from HTC.
"Thank you for getting in contact with HTC regarding your recommendations and support. its more than likely a phone will come out with the functions you have asked. Its a case that at the moment a trade of as to be implemented due to technology reasons due to the GPS functions incorporated in to the phone, which requires other hardware to be dropped from the phone. The GPS being implemented is still fairly new concept and even through I don't have details of future phones its only a matter of time before it happens. Personally i'm waiting for a phone/GPS with slide out keyboard, which again can only be a matter of time.
Thank You for your comments"
All in all adding IR and 3G would make this one compact complete device. Use it to control your gadgets, navigate you around when driving, using it for phone and all manner of PPC functionality with virtually every connection option. One day it will be reality.
Just a snippet from HTC
Hope that helps.
Absolutely YES
Look at my signature, I've worked with nearly all HTCs from an early stage. If you can live without a keyboard, this is THE device to have at the moment.
HTC are nearing perfection!
Best device ever released (excluding the Universal for business use, still unbeatable).
I just got one - having been through the magician (which the wife now loves and uses) and the exec (which I still use as an excellent business tool) I have got to say that I am bowled over by the Orbit/3300 - WM5.0 AKU3, GPS, great screen, brilliant battery life (I get 3 days moderate usage out of mine between charges - 10 calls per day, push email on 18 hours per day, occasional GPS use!
GET ONE - U WILL NOT REGRET IT - and per other posts, if you don't like it I am sure it will get snapped up on EBAY
fox 2 said:
o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
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Hi,
You might like to check out the thread on the General Forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291461
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289166 (TomTom 6 instead of copilot)
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289243
Ann
Hi there, both problems crop up more and more over the internets.
hmm wanted to post links to both motorola support forums and the german forum android-hilfe. but alas i can't. i'm too new here i guess.
Anyone yet?
12 days and no issues apart from ones caused myself
do you use the headphone jack regularly?
julschau said:
Hi there, both problems crop up more and more over the internets.
hmm wanted to post links to both motorola support forums and the german forum android-hilfe. but alas i can't. i'm too new here i guess.
Anyone yet?
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Dead earpiece here.
ive only used headset twice to listen to music for a total of about 3 hours
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ive only used headset twice to listen to music for a total of about 3 hours
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Supposedly use of the stereo jack aggravates the problem. I see this a lot in Europe and very little in the US. So far.
scrannel said:
Supposedly use of the stereo jack aggravates the problem. I see this a lot in Europe and very little in the US. So far.
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Yeah it would be helpful if you post saying you are having an issue if you would also say what version of the phone you have. US or UK or whatever else is out there.
Seems mostly like there are two hardware versions, but I could be wrong.
i am not buying this phone until I get more info on this problem. many people on the net have this problem.
less than a week of ownership and no issues so far
julschau said:
Hi there, both problems crop up more and more over the internets.
hmm wanted to post links to both motorola support forums and the german forum android-hilfe. but alas i can't. i'm too new here i guess.
Anyone yet?
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Honestly I only see the reboot on the non-US Motorola forum: three or four people in the UK. They are claiming it's related to loss of 3G?
i think it has something to do with specific SIM cards (3n or 5n). theres more info on the german forum of android-hilfe.de
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i think it has something to do with specific SIM cards (3n or 5n). theres more info on the german forum of android-hilfe.de
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That's the info that the UK guys are pondering.
julschau said:
i think it has something to do with specific SIM cards (3n or 5n). theres more info on the german forum of android-hilfe.de
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Sorry for my n00bishness but what is the difference between an 3n and 5n sim card, also how do I tell which type I have?
Thanks
Broken earpiece here. Phone wasn't even a week old. Had used the headset a few times.
Now I have my second Defy and hope that it doesn't happen again.
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Broken earpiece here. Phone wasn't even a week old. Had used the headset a few times.
Now I have my second Defy and hope that it doesn't happen again.
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Where are you? I'm hoping they'll replace mine as opposed to sending it off to get it repaired.
How long have you had the new one?
Less than a week and no issues as of yet. I have had two random reboots so far but both were when my battery was under ten percent. Only issue I've had this far is battery life but I think its in part to me running launcher pro and not rooting yet, and the fact I use my phone ALOT. Overall I'm happy though, so much so that I will pay full price for a second one for the wife!
I am in Germany. They wanted to send it in for repairs first but i had them exchange it on the spot. The second one is on it's first week now. Didn't play around with the headset but am calling myself every now and then to check if the earpiece still works
Must say it's a little worrying reading about this issue. I guess the advice ought to be to simply avoid using the headphones socket! Out of the question for some perhaps, but I would point out that bluetooth headphones/headsets are actually very affordable now. £20-£30 gets a fairly good pair of headphones, which will render this issue kinda harmless (if usage of the socket is indeed the culprit). Plus, who wants cables trailing out of their mobile phone anyway? Unless you absolutely need to use the onboard FM radio, you may as well just leave the 3.5mm socket alone, especially if there's a risk of breaking the earpiece speaker.
Despite this minor issue, I think the Defy is an awesome android phone, and highly recommended. Perhaps in the coming weeks Motorola will acknowledge this problem and sort it out completely - fixing the jack properly for future production, and maybe offering free bluetooth headphones to those who've bought a Defy with this weak socket/earpiece speaker issue (well it would only be fair, certainly cheaper than furnishing all early customers with new Defys... or would that seem to be a far-fetched dream? - help me out, I've no experience with Motorola's aftersales support! Lets hope they feel obliged to do the right thing for all of us who've decided to go for something a little different to the iphone/bberry/htc crowd)
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Must say it's a little worrying reading about this issue. I guess the advice ought to be to simply avoid using the headphones socket! Out of the question for some perhaps, but I would point out that bluetooth headphones/headsets are actually very affordable now. £20-£30 gets a fairly good pair of headphones, which will render this issue kinda harmless (if usage of the socket is indeed the culprit). Plus, who wants cables trailing out of their mobile phone anyway? Unless you absolutely need to use the onboard FM radio, you may as well just leave the 3.5mm socket alone, especially if there's a risk of breaking the earpiece speaker.
Despite this minor issue, I think the Defy is an awesome android phone, and highly recommended. Perhaps in the coming weeks Motorola will acknowledge this problem and sort it out completely - fixing the jack properly for future production, and maybe offering free bluetooth headphones to those who've bought a Defy with this weak socket/earpiece speaker issue (well it would only be fair, certainly cheaper than furnishing all early customers with new Defys... or would that seem to be a far-fetched dream? - help me out, I've no experience with Motorola's aftersales support! Lets hope they feel obliged to do the right thing for all of us who've decided to go for something a little different to the iphone/bberry/htc crowd)
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I love the phone too, but we shouldn't have to work around problems like this. What's the point in having a jack if you can't use it?
Except I believe the radio (FM) will not work unless earphones are physically inserted because they act as antenna.
I bought three G5 with 3GB or RAM for myself, wife and mother. The plus model was not available at the time here in Sweden.
All three of the phones have a very strange and in your face garbled metallic sound when filming video. This sound distortion makes video in places where there is natural background noise unbearable. Is there anyway to fix this problem? Am I the only one with this issue? Lost a lot of video of my newly born baby because of this sound issue =(
Thanks
same thing here, G5 3GB RAM and mic sounds like rubbish, seems like the same issue the Nexus 5 had, where the filter were too aggressive and instead ruined the sound. the solution was to completely disable the filter with some kind of patch.
onryo said:
I bought three G5 with 3GB or RAM for myself, wife and mother. The plus model was not available at the time here in Sweden.
All three of the phones have a very strange and in your face garbled metallic sound when filming video. This sound distortion makes video in places where there is natural background noise unbearable. Is there anyway to fix this problem? Am I the only one with this issue? Lost a lot of video of my newly born baby because of this sound issue =(
Thanks
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Upload an example file to mega/yousendit/whatever, please - I'll examine it.
This is from the other day on my own phone. My wife has a zillion videos that sound the exact same way on her phone. This weird noise only shows up if there is background noise.
All three phones have this issues. All three phones are bought here in Sweden:
Moto G5
3GB RAM
16 GB ROM
64 GB SD card
Version: PVT1
SKU: XT1676
Build number: NPP25.137-15
Software Channel: reteu
Baseband Ver: M8937_8000.122.02.40R
Any clue on what this is and how to deal with it? Should I just return all three phones?
onryo said:
This is from the other day on my own phone. My wife has a zillion videos that sound the exact same way on her phone. This weird noise only shows up if there is background noise.
All three phones have this issues. All three phones are bought here in Sweden:
Moto G5
3GB RAM
16 GB ROM
64 GB SD card
Version: PVT1
SKU: XT1676
Build number: NPP25.137-15
Software Channel: reteu
Baseband Ver: M8937_8000.122.02.40R
Any clue on what this is and how to deal with it? Should I just return all three phones?
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I also bought mine in Sweden and I have the same problem...I already contacted Sweden Technical support. Please do the same so they are aware of the incident. If you check lenovo's forum there's more people with the same problem.
You can contact them in motorola rest of europe (roe) section. I'm not allowed to post links :/
Cheers!
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I also bought mine in Sweden and I have the same problem...I already contacted Sweden Technical support. Please do the same so they are aware of the incident. If you check lenovo's forum there's more people with the same problem.
You can contact them in motorola rest of europe (roe) section. I'm not allowed to post links :/
Cheers!
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I just got a mail back from them saying they are "not aware" of the issue. Could you give us a url what gets around the "not allowd to post links" ie w w w dot xxxxxx/xxxx/ dot com
onryo said:
I just got a mail back from them saying they are "not aware" of the issue. Could you give us a url what gets around the "not allowd to post links" ie w w w dot xxxxxx/xxxx/ dot com
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I tried to workaround the link...lets see again:
motorola-global-en-roe dot custhelp.com/app/utils/prod_guided_assistant/g_id/5027/
If you guys know swedish you can try calling them
jpm92 said:
I tried to workaround the link...lets see again:
motorola-global-en-roe dot custhelp.com/app/utils/prod_guided_assistant/g_id/5027/
If you guys know swedish you can try calling them
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Skit bra
I'll call them tomorrow! Ericsson bought 50 G5 XT1676. All of the phones have that trash background noise when I asked around. I was given a phone but I bought two to give to my family.
onryo said:
Skit bra
I'll call them tomorrow! Ericsson bought 50 G5 XT1676. All of the phones have that trash background noise when I asked around. I was given a phone but I bought two to give to my family.
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They offered me to replace the unit on the mails, but it's obviously a common issue, so there's no point. Maybe they are more understandable on the phone. Also remember to ask if they know when is the spring finally arriving to Sweden
Tack!
jpm92 said:
They offered me to replace the unit on the mails, but it's obviously a common issue, so there's no point. Maybe they are more understandable on the phone. Also remember to ask if they know when is the spring finally arriving to Sweden
Tack!
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lol would be funny as hell if I could get all 50 owners of the phone at work to replace them
Sweden only has two seasons. 1) Dark season 2) Rain season
onryo said:
lol would be funny as hell if I could get all 50 owners of the phone at work to replace them
Sweden only has two seasons. 1) Dark season 2) Rain season
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I'm starting to realize :laugh:
Any news?
jpm92 said:
I'm starting to realize :laugh:
Any news?
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This is what Lenovo had to say. I returned my phones. Some of the others might do the same. Unfortunately for Lenovo Ericsson was going to buy a bunch of Thinkpad X1 Carbon laptops. They are freaking expensive. That is not going to happen now since Ericsson is afraid that Lenovo will not back up its products with fw updates.
Customer Reference number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dear XXXXXXXXXXX,
I am writing to you regarding your Moto G 5 phones. The Repairs Department have reviewed your case and have unfortunately not been able to find a satisfactory solution to this sound distortion problem.
Please rest assured that this issue has been duly reported to the relevant department and it will hopefully be resolved in a future update. Regretfully, we are unable to provide any timeframe for future updates. I would therefore recommend that you return your Moto G 5 phones to the retailer to request a refund.
We would like to thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter. We are terribly sorry for any inconvenience that this has caused. For any further assistance or information please do not hesitate to get in touch with us.
We are reachable on 03339 997 550 to discuss the matter further with one of our experienced customer service agents. Please contact us any time between the hours of 8am and 6pm from Monday to Friday.
Thank you for contacting Lenovo-Motorola. I hope you have a nice afternoon.
Kind regards,
Xica
Lenovo & Motorola Mobility UK Ltd.
Just finding this thread. I bought a G5 in Denmark a few weeks ago. I've noticed the same issue. I think it's either a over aggressive noise reduction scheme they've incorporated, or a result of low quality mp4 audio bitrate for recording. Probably a combination of these. Have you found a thread on Lenovo - Motorola that I can find more info about this on? Cheers,
Damn, I'm starting to evaluate the possibility of giving it back and get another one (obviously not Lenovo). Screw them, couldnt they just release a update for it? I record a lot of videos usually and this is really annoying...
Thanks for the update though
Hey, looked into it some more. I used the Cinema FV-5 app and found that by disabling the "Automatic Gain Control" of the microphone the sounds are recorded more clearly.
So, the metallic garbled sounds are most likely largely due to an overly aggressive AGC setting on the native camera app combined with whatever settings they have on audio conversion.
Wouldn't it be nice if Moto made an update to the camera app so that you could disable the automatic gain control if you wanted to....
I talked to Motorola Support and they told me they're already working on it, but they can't give me any date. At least I know it will be fixed at some point.
I am on day 1 of my G5 testing, and yes, I also experience this horrendous "Finding Nemo" underwater sound, caused by overly aggressive audio filtering and/or AGC. FIX IT LENOVO!
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This is what Lenovo had to say. I returned my phones. Some of the others might do the same. Unfortunately for Lenovo Ericsson was going to buy a bunch of Thinkpad X1 Carbon laptops. They are freaking expensive. That is not going to happen now since Ericsson is afraid that Lenovo will not back up its products with fw updates.
Customer Reference number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dear XXXXXXXXXXX,
I am writing to you regarding your Moto G 5 phones. The Repairs Department have reviewed your case and have unfortunately not been able to find a satisfactory solution to this sound distortion problem.
Please rest assured that this issue has been duly reported to the relevant department and it will hopefully be resolved in a future update. Regretfully, we are unable to provide any timeframe for future updates. I would therefore recommend that you return your Moto G 5 phones to the retailer to request a refund.
We would like to thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter. We are terribly sorry for any inconvenience that this has caused. For any further assistance or information please do not hesitate to get in touch with us.
We are reachable on 03339 997 550 to discuss the matter further with one of our experienced customer service agents. Please contact us any time between the hours of 8am and 6pm from Monday to Friday.
Thank you for contacting Lenovo-Motorola. I hope you have a nice afternoon.
Kind regards,
Xica
Lenovo & Motorola Mobility UK Ltd.
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Don't abandon a potential ThinkPad purchase decision based on crappy consumer mobile phone product lines. The business-oriented ThinkPad laptops are superb - I have three ThinkPads here - R61, T430 and an R500, and as a service engineer who ONLY deals with quality equipment, let me tell you, you won't find better laptop hardware from ANY company. The "ThinkPad" range is a continuation from IBM's original line of ThinkPads, and they are the only laptops fully tested, approved, and signed off for use on NASA and ISS missions - that's how robust and dependable they are - the stuff of legends. The consumer <blah>Pad products are not worth a donkey turd, but the "ThinkPad" lines are hot stuff my friend, ANYONE worth their salt will back me up on this view, it's a given - they are built like tanks with carbon fibre composite, glass fibre reinforced plastic, and magnesium alloy construction - not the usual creaky, paper-thin plastic crap palmed off on the vanity market, aka consumers.
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I talked to Motorola Support and they told me they're already working on it, but they can't give me any date. At least I know it will be fixed at some point.
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"We heard your feedback and assure you we are seeking to resolve this issue"
The usual line from "The Corporate BS handbook"
mbwf said:
I am on day 1 of my G5 testing, and yes, I also experience this horrendous "Finding Nemo" underwater sound, caused by overly aggressive audio filtering and/or AGC. FIX IT LENOVO!
Don't abandon a potential ThinkPad purchase decision based on crappy consumer mobile phone product lines. The business-oriented ThinkPad laptops are superb
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No doubt the Thinkpad X1 Carbon is a really nice laptop. Its just the buyers for Ericsson want nothing to do with Lenovo now. Instead that department bought 25 'Dell XPS 15 9560' =(
Looks like the G5 is now has some ROMS! Yayyyy!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development
Somebody on IRC pointed out a work around for the video sound issues.
hello,
i searched (using the search function AND scrolling trough posts) about NFC issues. i couldn't find a thread so here it is!
i JUST BOUGHT an unlocked / international version of Z2 Play - 4Gb and 64Gb version.
the users manual states: Note: NFC is not available in all areas or on all models.
i tried to use NFC with...
- tags
- another phone
it does not recognize any of them.
the phone is updated to the latest security patches (in europe).
before i send the phone back to the seller (i can do that) i would like to know if it is a well known issue or my phone has a problem.
i tried using tags and other phone connection WITH and WITHOUT the back-cover mounted on the device.
my back-cover has only ONE metallic contact.
so please provide help in order for me to decide if i am going to return the product.
NOTE: i am a LG user and this is my first venture into Moto devices.
DTTR said:
hello,
i searched (using the search function AND scrolling trough posts) about NFC issues. i couldn't find a thread so here it is!
i JUST BOUGHT an unlocked / international version of Z2 Play - 4Gb and 64Gb version.
the users manual states: Note: NFC is not available in all areas or on all models.
i tried to use NFC with...
- tags
- another phone
it does not recognize any of them.
the phone is updated to the latest security patches (in europe).
before i send the phone back to the seller (i can do that) i would like to know if it is a well known issue or my phone has a problem.
i tried using tags and other phone connection WITH and WITHOUT the back-cover mounted on the device.
my back-cover has only ONE metallic contact.
so please provide help in order for me to decide if i am going to return the product.
NOTE: i am a LG user and this is my first venture into Moto devices.
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I got the same Problem Bro. Nothing interacts with my NFC - I read it's on the top of the phone... behind the camera or the flash. But with knowing this nothing changed.
It's really annoying cause I'm in Australia on Vacation and want to pay with my phone and paypal at the shops, because the currency is good right now.
So, the notch... The mark above the earpiece is the sensor. It works.
https://youtu.be/WRGtq7Lgf-s
Sent from my LG-D855 powered by Liquid "O" and Tapatalk.
DTTR said:
So, the notch... The mark above the earpiece is the sensor. It works.
https://youtu.be/WRGtq7Lgf-s
Sent from my LG-D855 powered by Liquid "O" and Tapatalk.
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This is really a strange Location! Mine works too... haha
thanks for figuring out.
Strange location indeed. I need NFC for car integration, I will place a NFC tag on a car charger. But my car charger is not as tall as the device.
So I intend to return it.
I like the Amoled... I like the feel of the phone (even if my 4 years old LG G3 is smoother - on a 7.1 custom ROM)... But unfortunately this one does not meet my day-to-day usage requirements.
I made my first payment using this device.
It turns out that having the NFC sensor on that spot is perfect for making payments. You don't have to manoeuvre the phone in strange positions according to the position of the place of payment. So... Nice job!
Hello XDA Forum,
my daughter's tablet screen was cracked. A Chinese web shop offered replacement screen (lcd, digitizer & glass combo) and I ordered giving them correct model of the tablet. Now, I received physically perfectly fitting gear but I won't get any image on the screen. I can see backlight lit for a short while.
I swapped the faulty LCD/digitizer/glass back and could see picture just perfectly. So it seems like resolution issue. I even swapped the new LCD back while tablet was powered up (I know, I know..) and I could see picture in the replacement screen as well! But the image was distorted just like you've seen in CRTs when resolution/refresh don't match the screen capabilities.
Tablets model is Asus ZenPad 10 Z301M-1B006A. This site explains the differences pretty well:
w w w . p d e v i c e . c o m
/comparison/asus-zenpad-10-z301m-vs-asus-zenpad-10-z301mf
Even the GPU is same for 1920*1200 and 1280*800 system.
Actual replacement LCD is NV101WUM-N52 (1920*1200).
It perhaps should have been TV101WXM-NU1 (1280*800).
I saw some web shops giving possibility to select resolution but my Chinese web shop just asked the model. I have perfectly correct model in the order.
The sticker on the replacement panel says ATAB435 and "Asus Z301M Z301MFL" plus some Chinese chars. This suggests the LCD was indeed intended for Z301M/1280*800 tablet.
Now, the question is, could my replacement screen picture problem be due to wrong initial Android bootup resolution setting which I could possibly change with adb thus upgrade the tablet to 1920*1200 reso?
Hope this question made any sense at all.
BR,
Timo
karhulitos said:
Hello XDA Forum, my daughter's tablet screen was cracked..........
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I don't have this device myself but, I did a little digging around...
First of all, I did see that the new display is actually compatible for your device.
If this were me, my next thought would be to go to the following manufacturers website FAQ section...
https://www.asus.com/us/Tablets/ASUS-ZenPad-10-Z301M/HelpDesk_Knowledge/
... and see if I can locate anything that's regarding the Display (ie... LCD, Digitizer, Display, etc...) to see if there was anything that may/might/does apply to your issue.
Personally stating, I can only assume that it may be tied to some type of Calibration or similar.
Just to clarify, if this were me, and nothing worked, I would just double check all the connections. Specifically for connections that may be loose, dirty, disconnected (by accident), etc... because things can happen when putting them together that was overseen/forgotten accidentally.
In addition, I would look at some YouTube videos in replacing the Digitizer Display for the same/similar device. I would do this only as a reference regarding what I did and see if I had overlooked anything.
If all is well and nothing was successful, I would personally feel that this Digitizer was simply defective. I would then look to begin the process of returning/replacing the Digitizer.
If I obtained the same Digitizer part, and the same happened, I would just look into return/exchange that one for the other part.
It's really hard to diagnose many items/issues without having the actual/same device.
I hope that this was helpful in some way and I had explained this okay via text.
I do wish you the best of luck!
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Ibuprophen said:
First of all, I did see that the new display is actually compatible for your device.
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First of all, your effort is highly appreciated. Thank you.
Very interesting. What made you think my replacement display combo (LCD: NV101WUM-N52) is compatible with Z301M? All hints I could gather was stating it's compatible for Z301MF* models.
I tried to look for this information but couldn't really find the proof.
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Personally stating, I can only assume that it may be tied to some type of Calibration or similar.
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This is my study hypothesis as well. First, I was thinking that my problem is just due to the LCD not understanding the signal sent to it by the GPU.
commands like:
Code:
adb shell
wm density DPI (Change display density)
wm size RES (Change display resolution)
might change the startup resolution so that the new LCD can show it and otherwise get initialized properly.
I was just puzzled that Google didn't give any hits of people doing this so I just couldn't believe I'm the 1st one to experience this. This is why decided to ask here.
What I do not know is can ARM or tablet hardware in general negotiate screen refresh/resolution/DPI information via the cable or is it always something which is hard coded in the firmware itself? After all a tablet isn't really a plug and play hot swap equipment, eh?
Only thing avoiding me to test above approach is that the web shop may want to replace my new LCD. Let's see how it boils. Is it broken or is it electrically unfit for the hw/sw model I have?
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Just to clarify, if this were me, and nothing worked, I would just double check all the connections. Specifically for connections that may be loose, dirty, disconnected (by accident), etc... because things can happen when putting them together that was overseen/forgotten accidentally.
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I hear you. I did this approximately 10 times. Some 5 times I switched back to the cracked 1280*800 and shows the picture fine. Back to NV101WUM-N52 and all I get get is backlight.
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It's really hard to diagnose many items/issues without having the actual/same device.
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Jep. I think I just need to send it back to China. But please come back to me and tell how did you come to conclusion the screen is fit for Z301M?
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......... I think I just need to send it back to China. But please come back to me and tell how did you come to conclusion the screen is fit for Z301M?
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I've seen that part number for your device within some other websites like Amazon, eBay and even Asus as a replacement part option.
I've seen this before. Sometimes a new device will have upgrade options when it's first launched.
I've got an Asus Transformer T100TA Tablet where this option was provided for the Digitizer, Memory and a few others.
As a matter of fact... I've got my Asus Tablet still apart with the newer Digitizer Display ready to be put back together. Unfortunately it's been ready to be assembled for approximately a year now (shame on me... LOL! ).
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Unfortunately it's been ready to be assembled for approximately a year now (shame on me... LOL! ).
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Pull yourself together and do it now! Thanks man for your insights.
BR,
Timo
karhulitos said:
Pull yourself together and do it now! .........
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LMAO!!!
It's actually my first (and only) tablet I've ever owned. It's like a BIG Android... LOL!
I've got a good handful of various Android devices, 3 Laptops and 2 PC Towers (with 3 monitors). This list only includes what's actually working (also less the various parts as well). On top of the various projects I'm involved in bouncing from one to another as well as Life itself.
You can see why reassembling the tablet is actually something I want/need to do, it's just not very high on my priority list at this point in time.
I wish you the best of luck!
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Ibuprophen said:
LMAO!!!
I wish you the best of luck!
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Thank you.
One last detail for the record should someone else sometime stumble upon this problem.
Z301M original LCD is KD101N59-42NA-A8 which was later replaced, according to test report 081-170425-200, by TV101WXM-NU1 1280*800.
So be careful when ordering replacement screen for Asus ZenPad 10. There is also some green & yellow connector difference which wasn't involved in this case but I just wanted to mention it here.