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FRom MSMOBILES.com
Bad news: there will be no ROM upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 for existing Windows Mobile cell phones
May 13, 2005 [General]
Distributors and operators want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading your old phones to Windows Mobile 5.0!
Interestingly ROM images with Windows Mobile 5.0 exist for HTC Typhoon (Orange SPV C500, Audiovox SMT 5600, etc), for HTC Blue Angel and other models, but they will not be available for customers, because operators and distributors want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading new ones...
Smartphone Thoughts news website got an information from Orange UK about Windows Mobile 5.0:
Orange is looking forward to launching the new Windows Mobile platform across a range of attractive devices in 2005. The key benefits to customers and to Orange will be an enhanced phone experience, increased customisation possibilities, as well as improved overall performance.
Florian Seiche, Director of Devices, Orange Group
We have also got information from other sources that there will be no upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 for existing Windows Mobile phones. The only ROM upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 from Windows Mobile 2003 will be available for some Pocket PC PDAs (not phones) from HP, Dell, and some other vendors.
Conclusion: don't buy any Windows Mobile phone if it is not powered by Windows Mobile 5.0 or if a vendor/distributor of given phone is not giving official promise that upgrade to Windows Mobile 5.0 will be available.
Please note: first official devices with Windows Mobile 5.0 will be available in August 2005. It's also important to notice that Windows Mobile 5.0 works also in low resolution of 176x220 and technically speaking it can work on any Windows Mobile phone

Who cares? We'll get our un-offical updates here in xda-developers anyway as usual

How are they gonna obtain the Original Rom?

vbguru613 said:
How are they gonna obtain the Original Rom?
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How did we got WM2005 or WM2003SE (more than one!) for Himalaya? How did we got WM2003SE for Wallaby? In many-many ways which will be not known probably for us

i ampraying they get the blueangel rom!!

no need to worry man...
There's no reason to worry about the rom..
BECAUSE THIS IS XDA-DEVELOPERS MAN....
we are here the best with the best!

No worries dude! everything is upgradable here in xda-developers.com 8)
I never expect to have WM2003SE on my Wallaby device, but the great guys here has made it! Many thanks to all people here in this forum

It's sad that this is the case. My blue angel rocks, and it's less than 6 months old. Thanks to xda-devs we'll get WM5 These guys rock

let not forget the xda2i... hehehe..would love to have this baby running on wm2k5

BLUEANGEL WM 2005
This forum can do anything!! This is the exclusive kickass XDA think-tank on a www.. level !!! I am confident that before it is all over with, our fellow forum members will have the WM 2005 runnig on the BlueAngel and someone might even take it a step further and probably make up a streamline (simulated) version to run on and XDA I!!
It all starts with an idea and everyone digs in and can have it solved in hours or a day at the latest. Totally freaking AMAZING!! 8) Thanks to all who have helped us all!!! :lol:

WM 5 on HTC Typhone working
Hey msmobiles.com has screenshots of a typhoon with WM 5. i would kill to get a rom on mine from that phone. It says its availible to a closed group of developers. Developers log on here!!!!!
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3848.html

That would be sweet.

Distributors and operators want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading your old phones to Windows Mobile 5.0!
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Correct is all about money, BUT
as for me and my GSM SP and many other GSM SP's arround the world have their subscribers locked into a 24 month contract?
What do we do then?
I chatted to the support for iMate on www.clubimate.com last Friday and they also said there was no upgrade for the iMate 2020 PPC. In fact I was told that "testing" was not complete. Yet Dell was very quick off the mark and annonce imediately (the day after, MS annoncement) that ALL Axim X50 Handheld Family. (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/top...ce/en/2004/2005_05_10_rr_000?c=us&l=en&s=corp)
Now that is service!

Qtek 8020 Smartphone - Upgrade to Mobile 2005?

Is there any Mobile 2005 version out there who will work on a Qtek 8020 (runing Windows Mobile 2003 SE)?

non of the pocketpc htc devices can share rom and smartphones use a whole different family of cpu's
so unless qtek release it or leak it then there is no big chance of getting 2005 on your device

okay, but have Microsoft released a Smartphone version of mobile 2005?

ms dont release roms for devices such as pda's or phones with ms software on them they release a basic rom to the makers of the devices and they can give them for free or chage people for them or
do nothing if they'd rather have people buying new devices with the new os on

But why are the Pocket PC version out and not the Smartphone version?

Give the poor guy Rudiger a brake, he has answered 2 of your questions, he like most of us dont have a cristal ball nor do we work for microsoft.
Want to know more about the smartphone version then read the ms web page. Ask bill. Go to a smartphone site.
You cant buy 2005 on a cd, in shop or even on a device at this moment in time.

Sorry for asking... tought the meaning of forum like this is to get answers... but maybe not here...

But it is, just sometimes you get answers that may be you dont want to read, thats also the idea of forums.

Agree! Still can't find any sites where I can find information about how to buy or download WM2005... surfed all Mobile 2005 related MS sites, without finding any information... just have to wait for a new device with preinstaled WM2005... thanks...

Microsoft only releases WM2005 to mobile phone makers (such as HTC for our devices). It is then up to each company to choose to release an update for their old phones with it or to make new phones with it.
Microsoft has nothing to do with the end user.

joamyhre said:
Is there any Mobile 2005 version out there who will work on a Qtek 8020 (runing Windows Mobile 2003 SE)?
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Sure u all know but Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on APRIL 1st

Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu

1 April.
Hmmmmm.
Not to sound cynical but.........1 April.......

I am an ADMIN and I handle frontpage news at theHotfix.net so I do my research i have my sources and OBVIOUSLY I use other news sources, this seems legit, its NOT offical from MS, but a credible source from within MS says thats the date, I dunno, I posted it on my SITE

Hmm. So what do they know about the hard reset issue that nobody else does? April 1?

April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!

nicknowsky said:
Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu
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Yeap, but it is the Smartphone edition.. doesn't work for us yet...

I read about it two days ago. I think the article was on www.forteplace.com or something like that.

THE Original SOURCE that Bink used as his news source was POCKET LINT
here is the article http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/13612/14636/windows-mobile-61-coming-april.phtml

Fallen Spartan said:
April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!
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ha ha i didnt think about that, you're quick on draw Spartan

Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?

t-readyroc said:
Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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Yeah, I'm a bit confused by this "news". I've been running 6.1 for a while now (thanks to this forum), but for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1. So in what way was it not already released a while back?

raburton said:
..... for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1.
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thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet,. but then again, if we really cared about official, we wont be here in xda devs would we

XtreMe_G said:
thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet
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It is true, please don't call me a liar just because you haven't seen what I'm talking about. Maybe Orange are shipping leaked ROMs on their phones, or maybe they are a leak themselves. My brother has one, purchased direct from orange as an upgrade over a month ago, that came with 6.1 on it.

WM6.1 > HTC Hermes100/AT&T8525
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.

LouMessina said:
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.
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I'm a loyal AT&T/Cingular user for years, but im just getting into the PDA section of AT&T so far I like my 8525, but my fav thing is the WiFi, that all I need and use, aside from the occasional phone cal, I just took advantage of a near NEW 8525 for $100 on craigslist last weekend

I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.

Fallen Spartan said:
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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So why not share one that doesn't hard reset every 5 minutes?

Currently using Schaps WM6.1 Beta which doesn't hard reset every 5 mins, and chances are Official release will require a lot of reseting anyhow

t-readyroc said:
I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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No it hasn't.

Fallen Spartan said:
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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Some of us see so many different versions out there and aren't sure which one to use.
I find my official 6.0 adequate, I'm not even sure what I'd look for in a 6.1.
I'd also want it to be completely stable.

windows mobile 6.1 final build?

hi, i have read that wm6.1 was released on april 1st. so, can anyone say me whats the final build number for this release? thx and a nice day.
regards chief

i think so far its only been released for smartphones, I having been looking into it and I cant find a definitive answer

the picture here shows 19202 ???
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/04/01/htc-touch-dual-comes-to-the-us-sporting-wm-61-and-hsdpa/

I know there is the Official AT&T Tilt ROM upgrade 6.1 I think thats what I just downloaded from HTC site, and on the Windows Mobile Team Blog
Upgrades for several current devices will be available. From the press announcement linked above, the following new phones and updates were announced today:
Mobile operators:
Alltel Wireless: HTC PPC6800, HTC Touch
AT&T: Samsung BlackJack II, MOTO Q 9h global, Pantech duo, AT&T Tilt by HTC
Sprint: A new Palm Treo and updates for the Mogul by HTC, Touch by HTC, MOTO Q 9c, Samsung ACE
T-Mobile International: T-Mobile MDA Ameo 16 GB, T-Mobile MDA compact IV
Device-makers:
ASUS: New phones including the P320, ZX1, P560, M536 and updates for the P527, P750, M930
HTC: A new Touch Dual for the U.S. and updates for the AT&T Tilt, Touch by HTC, Mogul by HTC from Sprint, TyTN II
i-mate: 8502, 9502, 8150, 6150
Intermec: CN3
Motorola: MOTO Q 9c, MOTO Q 9h global, MC70, MC9000
Pantech: Pantech duo
Samsung: BlackJack II
Toshiba: Portégé G810,Portégé G910
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That is what it SAYS.......................

nicknowsky said:
I know there is the Official AT&T Tilt ROM upgrade 6.1 I think thats what I just downloaded from HTC site, and on the Windows Mobile Team Blog
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there no official at&t tilt 6.1 upgrade. the one on the htc site is a 6.0 upgrade. there is a at&t tilt test rom though, closest thing to a shipped rom for the kaiser so far. build 19209

I think the 202 was a picture from beta versions given to the press...

I like the OS... its fast, Batt life is good, Text Msg,

The Windows Mobile 6.1 device emulator images released for developers seem to be build 19202, for what that's worth.

Chiefcooker said:
hi, i have read that wm6.1 was released on april 1st. so, can anyone say me whats the final build number for this release? thx and a nice day.
regards chief
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I am using 19209 WM6.1ROM,stable and faster. But it is in Chinese.

if you want an english version of wm6.1 build 19209 then try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381326.
I quite like it and its been out for a few days n ow. no HR's, no freezes. I like it alot...

Does anyone know the approximate date HTC is going to release the official 6.1 rom for our Hermes?

My guess is that they won't. Hermes has now had a successor model for some time, and most phone companies are replacing it. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one, but I don't think they'll feel it's a great business decision to release one; this is similar to why they don't release all their HTC apps (HTC home etc) for older devices...gives you more reason to upgrade.

April Fool's Day
Chiefcooker said:
hi, i have read that wm6.1 was released on april 1st. so, can anyone say me whats the final build number for this release? thx and a nice day.
regards chief
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As you mentioned it was released on 1st of April. don't you think it's a day we all know about.

WP 7.8 On Lumia 900 in China !!!!!!!

Hello guys ,
i don't know if you have read in China is out WP 7.8 for the Lumia 900 .
Is possible to spoof this Rom and mount on European Lumia ????
Thanks

wolfgart said:
Hello guys ,
i don't know if you have read in China is out WP 7.8 for the Lumia 900 .
Is possible to spoof this Rom and mount on European Lumia ????
Thanks
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... and where did you read this??? Microsoft hasn't made ANY announcements regarding availability of 7.8, or even if it's 'finished' yet. Sounds a bit dodgy...

drtolson said:
... and where did you read this??? Microsoft hasn't made ANY announcements regarding availability of 7.8, or even if it's 'finished' yet. Sounds a bit dodgy...
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http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-lumia-920-running-windowsphone78-spotted-in-china/

This is not windows phone 7.8!!!
This is a app for WP7.5 called "W Phone 8"!!!
You can try it, download the app in the windows phone market and try it!
Cheers

It's not an app. There's a video of it running at http://www.liveside.net/2012/11/05/windows-phone-7-8-shows-up-on-nokia-lumia-900-in-china/ and the build is 7.10.8847.619

It's definitely an early version of 7.8, likely beta. You can tell by the icons on the home screen. They are not all the correct sizes. But is proof that it's coming, because as far as I'm aware, there is NO way to flash a custom ROM to the 900.

exiva said:
It's not an app. There's a video of it running at http://www.liveside.net/2012/11/05/windows-phone-7-8-shows-up-on-nokia-lumia-900-in-china/ and the build is 7.10.8847.619
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If only someone could dump this... Now we only have 7.8 8835.