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Bad news: there will be no ROM upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 for existing Windows Mobile cell phones
May 13, 2005 [General]
Distributors and operators want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading your old phones to Windows Mobile 5.0!
Interestingly ROM images with Windows Mobile 5.0 exist for HTC Typhoon (Orange SPV C500, Audiovox SMT 5600, etc), for HTC Blue Angel and other models, but they will not be available for customers, because operators and distributors want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading new ones...
Smartphone Thoughts news website got an information from Orange UK about Windows Mobile 5.0:
Orange is looking forward to launching the new Windows Mobile platform across a range of attractive devices in 2005. The key benefits to customers and to Orange will be an enhanced phone experience, increased customisation possibilities, as well as improved overall performance.
Florian Seiche, Director of Devices, Orange Group
We have also got information from other sources that there will be no upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 for existing Windows Mobile phones. The only ROM upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 from Windows Mobile 2003 will be available for some Pocket PC PDAs (not phones) from HP, Dell, and some other vendors.
Conclusion: don't buy any Windows Mobile phone if it is not powered by Windows Mobile 5.0 or if a vendor/distributor of given phone is not giving official promise that upgrade to Windows Mobile 5.0 will be available.
Please note: first official devices with Windows Mobile 5.0 will be available in August 2005. It's also important to notice that Windows Mobile 5.0 works also in low resolution of 176x220 and technically speaking it can work on any Windows Mobile phone
Who cares? We'll get our un-offical updates here in xda-developers anyway as usual
How are they gonna obtain the Original Rom?
vbguru613 said:
How are they gonna obtain the Original Rom?
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How did we got WM2005 or WM2003SE (more than one!) for Himalaya? How did we got WM2003SE for Wallaby? In many-many ways which will be not known probably for us
i ampraying they get the blueangel rom!!
no need to worry man...
There's no reason to worry about the rom..
BECAUSE THIS IS XDA-DEVELOPERS MAN....
we are here the best with the best!
No worries dude! everything is upgradable here in xda-developers.com 8)
I never expect to have WM2003SE on my Wallaby device, but the great guys here has made it! Many thanks to all people here in this forum
It's sad that this is the case. My blue angel rocks, and it's less than 6 months old. Thanks to xda-devs we'll get WM5 These guys rock
let not forget the xda2i... hehehe..would love to have this baby running on wm2k5
BLUEANGEL WM 2005
This forum can do anything!! This is the exclusive kickass XDA think-tank on a www.. level !!! I am confident that before it is all over with, our fellow forum members will have the WM 2005 runnig on the BlueAngel and someone might even take it a step further and probably make up a streamline (simulated) version to run on and XDA I!!
It all starts with an idea and everyone digs in and can have it solved in hours or a day at the latest. Totally freaking AMAZING!! 8) Thanks to all who have helped us all!!! :lol:
WM 5 on HTC Typhone working
Hey msmobiles.com has screenshots of a typhoon with WM 5. i would kill to get a rom on mine from that phone. It says its availible to a closed group of developers. Developers log on here!!!!!
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3848.html
That would be sweet.
Distributors and operators want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading your old phones to Windows Mobile 5.0!
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Correct is all about money, BUT
as for me and my GSM SP and many other GSM SP's arround the world have their subscribers locked into a 24 month contract?
What do we do then?
I chatted to the support for iMate on www.clubimate.com last Friday and they also said there was no upgrade for the iMate 2020 PPC. In fact I was told that "testing" was not complete. Yet Dell was very quick off the mark and annonce imediately (the day after, MS annoncement) that ALL Axim X50 Handheld Family. (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/top...ce/en/2004/2005_05_10_rr_000?c=us&l=en&s=corp)
Now that is service!
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I have an PPC with WPPC 2003 1st Edition. Can I upgrade to the WM2005? Can I use the instructions explained in the Himalaya section?
Thx @all Chris
Himalay ROMs are different from the Wallaby ROMs. So until now there is no WM2005 ROM available for the Wallaby --> No chance to upgrade....
HTH
Stefan
Thx that was fast
You said NOW there is no version?!?
What about Windows Mobile 5. It's out since last Friday. Is this different to the WM2005 Version? Cause it's mentioned that this new version is a common version for mostly all mobile devices?!?
Chris
Yeah, Windows Mobile 2005 is the same as Windows Mobile 5.0 (Magneto was it's codename).
And even though WM5.0 is "out" since Friday, that does not mean that it will be available to everyone and every device. Up until now, only Dell and HP have publicly announced it's plans to support SOME of it's high end devices, but not all of them.
And they say it's going to be a common OS for all Microsoft mobiles because WM5.0 apps will be compatible cross platform between Smartphones and Pocket PCs.
Is there any Mobile 2005 version out there who will work on a Qtek 8020 (runing Windows Mobile 2003 SE)?
non of the pocketpc htc devices can share rom and smartphones use a whole different family of cpu's
so unless qtek release it or leak it then there is no big chance of getting 2005 on your device
okay, but have Microsoft released a Smartphone version of mobile 2005?
ms dont release roms for devices such as pda's or phones with ms software on them they release a basic rom to the makers of the devices and they can give them for free or chage people for them or
do nothing if they'd rather have people buying new devices with the new os on
But why are the Pocket PC version out and not the Smartphone version?
Give the poor guy Rudiger a brake, he has answered 2 of your questions, he like most of us dont have a cristal ball nor do we work for microsoft.
Want to know more about the smartphone version then read the ms web page. Ask bill. Go to a smartphone site.
You cant buy 2005 on a cd, in shop or even on a device at this moment in time.
Sorry for asking... tought the meaning of forum like this is to get answers... but maybe not here...
But it is, just sometimes you get answers that may be you dont want to read, thats also the idea of forums.
Agree! Still can't find any sites where I can find information about how to buy or download WM2005... surfed all Mobile 2005 related MS sites, without finding any information... just have to wait for a new device with preinstaled WM2005... thanks...
Microsoft only releases WM2005 to mobile phone makers (such as HTC for our devices). It is then up to each company to choose to release an update for their old phones with it or to make new phones with it.
Microsoft has nothing to do with the end user.
joamyhre said:
Is there any Mobile 2005 version out there who will work on a Qtek 8020 (runing Windows Mobile 2003 SE)?
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2007.05.03
Dopod International Offers Windows Mobile 6 upgrade
838Pro, D810, P800W and U1000 to be upgradable free
SINGAPORE, 3rd May 2007 – Dopod International (Singapore) Pte Ltd, a leading PDA phone and Smartphone provider, today announced its support for existing users of 838Pro, D810, P800W and the recently launched U1000 to migrate from the Windows Mobile 5 operating system to an improved platform, Windows Mobile 6. This can be done for free and is applicable to all current owners of these devices.
From July 2007, Dopod International will offer current users of these devices a free download of the upgrade code which will enable users of these devices, currently running on Windows Mobile 5, to upgrade to the Windows Mobile 6.
“This upgrade from Windows Mobile 5 to Windows Mobile 6 will enable our users of 838Pro, D810, P800W and U1000 to enjoy improved usability, and for our business users to better manage their business information which is based on Microsoft Exchange Server 2007. This will also allow our customers to continue to stay connected through our innovative and powerful products,” said Jack Tong, CEO of Dopod International Corp.
All upcoming devices will continue to reinforce Dopod International’s commitment to let users to truly Enjoy Mobility and will continue to cater to the demands of consumers looking for powerful yet stylish devices to enhance their mobile lifestyle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305316
Next someone will post the thread: "Did you know you can breathe?"
FuzzMunky said:
Next someone will post the thread: "Did you know you can breathe?"
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You can? Amazing! Let's start a thread about it and discuss it
Not only that, the thread title was very badly chosen.
Dopod WILL offer a WM6 upgrade. Saying Dopod offers a WM6 upgrade [now] is a lie.
Even I was planning to get that upgrade so that I can breath, I know its expensive, but people told me its worth, so why not give it a shot. And fuzz, I was told this upgrade was only going to be available from next week! How come you got it now?
I don't. I just saw a press release.
DOPOD Aus has been talking about releasing ROMs forever on their site and nothing has ever happened. I hope this is a change.
viperx said:
DOPOD Aus has been talking about releasing ROMs forever on their site and nothing has ever happened. I hope this is a change.
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They are all slow to release new roms, but Dopod is usually the first one to release upgrades.
ZakMcRofl said:
Not only that, the thread title was very badly chosen.
Dopod WILL offer a WM6 upgrade. Saying Dopod offers a WM6 upgrade [now] is a lie.
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Agree .....
(Anxiously waiting for the WM6 ROM)
Read this...
O2 Asia is about to offer free Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for the Xda Atom Life! This free update will be available to all current Atom Life users, and will involve either a download from the O2 Web site or a visit to one of its service centers. The upgrade will change the operating system on the Atom Life from Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC Phone Edition to Windows Mobile 6 (WM6) Professional.
Since its availability from May 12, the Atom Life will become one of the first commercially-available Windows Mobile products to sport the newer OS. Atom Life handhelds sold in stores from June onwards will also be preloaded with WM6. In comparison, Dopod, which will be acquired by HTC, will be upgrading its selected devices to WM6 in July.
O2 Atom Life will still feature its enhancements, the O2 SMS Plus and O2 MediaPlus. They have been tested on the new OS, and will still be available on the Atom Life after the upgrade. O2 added that they are currently testing WM6 on its upcoming Xda Flame (Specifications) and all of their phones which will be launched in 2007 will be opearting with WM6. The only thing left is to hear about an upgrade for the Xda Zinc and Xda Graphite soon.
Source : cnet
Im hopeful, but o2 is generally slow at this type of thing so I would not be to impatient. For my uses WM6 doesn't offer much more either. But its always nice to have the latest...
I found this while googling other sites about the flame.
"Wm5 disapointed but i made the sales person call his friend who works at the o2 shop in hong kong and he said that wm6 will be available in a month. They are still testing it and i will have an update as soon as it is released."
I don't know how realiable this is but who knows.
From this page...
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=13042&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270
Hi guys,
Just got a negative reply from O2
Here goes
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Case#BF19151/1] Flame - TT0 - WM6
Dear Jim,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.
Please inform me of any other assistance that you may require. I wish you success in your future endeavours.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com
Overall, faster and stable. Better than wm6 838pro. I use spb full keyboard, just as good as a qwert kb. Batteris bad, cannot stand for one day for normal use, also the volumn of speaker is weak that cannot always hear phone rings. hope can improve in near future. I do not need wm6 as no material difference with wm5, I do not use office in pda....
I wouldnt give up just yet fellas, I mean think about how much HTC and Dopod denied they would do WM6 ROM or even a GPS ROM for the trinity, and sure enough eventually both of those were announced etc.
Im just thinking come next month when alot more WM6 Roms roll out, O2 might jump onboard as well, whats the point of having a pretty powerful device, but being too cheap to give consumers a WM6 Rom?
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Im just thinking come next month when alot more WM6 Roms roll out, O2 might jump onboard as well, whats the point of having a pretty powerful device, but being too cheap to give consumers a WM6 Rom?
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I agree. I'm sure something like this would happen. It's pretty stupid to release such a powerful PDA with an outdated OS...
jimlau said:
Hi guys,
Just got a negative reply from O2
Here goes
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Case#BF19151/1] Flame - TT0 - WM6
Dear Jim,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.
Please inform me of any other assistance that you may require. I wish you success in your future endeavours.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com
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This is some idiot who is responding from O2.
Today wm6 for zinc has been announced, check out msmobiles / seeo2.com for details.
I think flame is the flagship model of the company and they will surely release wm6 for it.
Reply from O2 Asia Pacific
Dear Flame Users,
I'm using XDA flame and whoever posted that reply tried to discourage Flame users.
Because i got an offical reply from O2 that they are currently testing Flame upgrade and will release soon
i got following message from O2
kindly note that O2 has a policy of testing new software and applications thoroughly to ensure that potential faults and issues are mitigated so that the customer experience and enjoyment of the new device is not affected. As a result, we are conducting rigorous tests on Windows Mobile 6 with the unique O2 applications and other software intended for the Xda Flame. Customers can expect to an announcement on the availability of Windows Mobile 6 upgrades for the Xda Flame in the near future.
Hope this information is useful. Thank You.
Warmest Regards,
Joanne Goh
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jgoh#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com
I'm using XDA Zinc ... and prior to wm 6.0 launched, I asked O2 about the upcoming wm 6.0 but they answered exactly like the one posted above that they were not providing wm 6.0 for zinc ... but guess what now they have it ...
I guess it is standard answer for someone that asked about availability of wm 6.0 ... i believe wm 6.0 will be available for flame also ... just wait patiently ... after all it is the current flagship of o2 ...
From the information above, some may conlude that O2 would finally release the WM6 rom, just as I do. Actually I think, maybe there're still something imperfect of the WM6 drivers for the indepent graphic card in FLAME, so it is still being tested time and again.
Nowadays, I noticed in a Chinese online shopping website, that they have the unique FLAME to sold with WM6(simplified Chinese edition)!!!
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-7bbf4068423ebb333ff1cd39fb0804c1.jhtml
I wonder where they got it, is that a signal? Oh, the seller also claim that they have a forum which is the official one of O2(www.iio2.com).
NOT ADs! cauz I'm not quite believe that.
solaluna said:
From the information above, some may conlude that O2 would finally release the WM6 rom, just as I do. Actually I think, maybe there're still something imperfect of the WM6 drivers for the indepent graphic card in FLAME, so it is still being tested time and again.
Nowadays, I noticed in a Chinese online shopping website, that they have the unique FLAME to sold with WM6(simplified Chinese edition)!!!
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-7bbf4068423ebb333ff1cd39fb0804c1.jhtml
I wonder where they got it, is that a signal? Oh, the seller also claim that they have a forum which is the official one of O2(www.iio2.com).
NOT ADs! cauz I'm not quite believe that.
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Actually, this is truth. WM6 Chinese version are published already
danny3358 said:
Actually, this is truth. WM6 Chinese version are published already
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I looked around that website-iio2, and found that it is not an official verison, as it is replanted from D900. Amazing! But I guess there is not a proper driver for the independent graphic card in this version.
Have you guy read this:
Last week, Microsoft formally unveiled Windows Mobile 6.1, the latest version of its operating system for handhelds and smartphones.
Naturally, the owners of current devices are anxious to know if and when updates for their units will be released.
Unfortunately, there's bad news for users of HP's latest iPAQs. Responding to a question from Brighthand, Mike Hockey, Hewlett-Packard's Worldwide Public Relations Manager, said:
HP will not be offering an operating system upgrade for currently shipping HP iPAQ devices beyond what ships on the device today -- Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.
This decision comes after having evaluated the potential for delays in firmware and software updates, device recertification, and carry-over costs to our customers that are often associated with an operating system upgrade.
HP is committed to continuing its long-standing relationship with Microsoft and will deliver HP iPAQs with Windows Mobile 6.1 at a future date.
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this is the direct link:
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=256642
Anyone with 2xx cooking skills??
Open your Paypal donation Channel and lets the party begin...
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Just bought a HP 214, so I'd be very interested in the 6.1 upgrade.
It does not supprise me that HP have made this decision, they let us all down with the upgrade for the 4700 from 2003 to wm5, that in mind it will be better to have someone cook the rom than wait/trust HP to release a workable upgrade.
This just shows how committed HP is to their customers--they're not! I'm in the market for a new pocket pc and I was thinking about getting the HP 211, but I think I will just go with the dell axim X51v now.
Soo much for their so called "3 years Supports" ...
This is what i got.. 1 single version OS for the rest of your life.
multimedia on ipaq and dell.
Steven855 said:
This just shows how committed HP is to their customers--they're not! I'm in the market for a new pocket pc and I was thinking about getting the HP 211, but I think I will just go with the dell axim X51v now.
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i have brought myself a hp ipaq 214 as i`m after a multimedia player that isn`t a phone, it is just a standard 214 with whatever came on it, i also has a dell x51v with i also want to use as a multimedia device, but try as i might i can`t download vlc for either device and i can`t play any movie files just mp3`s, i`m new to swapping rom`s but i would like to run android on these devices and get a player that actually works, do you have any advice.