Tmobile G7 on Project fi - LG G7 ThinQ Questions & Answers

Hi I cannot find it in forums, can I use Tmobile version of lg g7 with project fi, do I have to unlock it?
Or can I load the project fi firmware in the tmobile variant.
thanks

I think you can.
https://fi.google.com/compatibility

Can someone explain what googel FI is..
Is it just a operator?
Pricing is more expensive then a normal operator here in Sweden.
Do u get anything els for the price.
Today I have unlimitee cals and text. 30gig of data for 28$ and free roaming in EU

maydayind said:
Can someone explain what googel FI is..
Is it just a operator?
Pricing is more expensive then a normal operator here in Sweden.
Do u get anything els for the price.
Today I have unlimitee cals and text. 30gig of data for 28$ and free roaming in EU
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It's an MVNO. Here in the U.S. it uses three different cellular networks that the phone can switch between depending on which network has the best service in that area. The networks are T-Mobile, Sprint, and US Cellular. I'm also fairly sure it works abroad without issue or extra cost. It costs $20/month right off the bat, with every Gigabyte of data costing an additional $10/month after that until you reach $60, afterwards, you don't get charged for data usage (and don't get throttled either). Therefore your bill can never be more than $60 (before taxes and whatnot). It's not the greatest deal for people that use a ton of data, but it is a decent deal for those that don't use a ton of data, like me. My phone bill is usually around $40 a month. If you have any unused data at the end of the month, they credit your bill. So it's cheap, provides access to two major networks in my area, WiFi calling, and gives you access to Google Hotspots. Pretty cool, the only huge drawback is that while almost any phone will work with Google Fi, if you truly want to take advantage of the network switching feature you have to buy a fully compatible phone. That is, a phone with both a CDMA and a GSM antenna in it. Very few phones have this capability as of right now.

I'm glad that I live in Romania where my plan is 3.99 EUR for unlimited calls and sms and 50 GB of Lte speed monthly. Just wanted to sign up for fi and when I saw the prices ... ? I tought that it was some kind of private club with access to google's premium services... ?
You americans have cheaper petrol and diesel prices, but when it comes to IT, you are scammed with prices ???

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I'm glad that I live in Romania where my plan is 3.99 EUR for unlimited calls and sms and 50 GB of Lte speed monthly. Just wanted to sign up for fi and when I saw the prices ... I tought that it was some kind of private club with access to google's premium services...
You americans have cheaper petrol and diesel prices, but when it comes to IT, you are scammed with prices
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Yeah, Telecoms and ISPs are basically crooks here in the US. The prices have come down over the years but the amount we pay for what we actually get as a service compared to other parts of the world is pretty astounding. Filling up my car with 93 octane for $2.99/gal ain't bad though.
Fi isn't a special club or anything haha, but their support (in my experience) has been great and offer some pretty nice deals for new phones once in a while. I snagged my LG G7 ThinQ when it was brand new for $350 as they credited my bill over $300. So I haven't had to pay my phone bill in months.

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What are you ppl paying per month for your Inc?

I ask because a lot of the promised discounts aren't materializing for me, so I might not be keeping this phone after all.
RIght now I pay $30 for a SERO plan on sprint. 500 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data
The best I came up with on VZW was $40 for 450 minutes, $10 for 500 texts a months, and $30 for unlimited data: That's $80 a month, for less minutes and texts.
When I was asking about work discounts, the WZA people said it was 20% off evrything, which then became 19% everthing, then I found out that required a contract, the non contract discount was 17% and only on the voice plan, not the text or data plan. the $10 one bill disocunt required singing a new 2 year contract with FIOS with a $315 ETf, which I'm not signing, I am so sick of being locked into service contracts, I'm done with those things.
So with my big discount, my $80 bill turns into a $73.20 bill. Wheee.
Yes, the Incredible is a great device, but more than doubling my cell phone charges is a tough pill to swallow. Whats everyone else out there paying?
Well I too got tired of paying out the ass.. I took my ding and went to metropcs ( I know that's not an option for many) but 40 bucks a month rocks for unlimited everything. Ya it sucks using the slow 1x speed for data. But it works fine for emails and Facebook. Etc. I don't stream music or movies when I'm not home so it works for me.
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I am paying $88 a month
$40 for my half or a 700 shared minute Talk plan (again, the smallest as I do mostly in-network which is unlimited)
$30/month unlimited data
$10/month for 500 text mesasges (got the smallest as I just needed texting period, almost all of mine are in verizon network and therefore unlimited)
$8/month for Assurion insurance
I am locked in on this until July 2012 at which point I will be evaluating if I want to stay with Verizon or switch to sprint (ATT is out as their data plan disgusts me)
My wife tells me were paying 180 a month. For what I have no idea. Apparently I shouldn't of asked. What the hell Verizon. What the hell me why aren't I paying attention to our bills.
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My wife and I both have data plans and we are on my parents' plan to save money. We all split 1400 anytime minutes. We have have the $5/mo texting (gotta love GTalk), and unlimited data and it usually comes out to $120/mo for the 2 of us (in total). Too much, IMO, but I dont know what else to do. Dropping the minutes doesnt change the price THAT much.
Added to my parents plan after my ex shut off my sprint phone, pay $50 a month, love it!
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My wife and I both have data plans and we are on my parents' plan to save money. We all split 1400 anytime minutes. We have have the $5/mo texting (gotta love GTalk), and unlimited data and it usually comes out to $120/mo for the 2 of us (in total). Too much, IMO, but I dont know what else to do. Dropping the minutes doesnt change the price THAT much.
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Reason many pay out the ass for verizon is because they have good coverage and data speeds. No other carrier in my area has solid coverage, it's all spotty.
I seriously have not been in any place without a signal unless it was underground or inside a meat locker, so for now I'll swallow the big bill for what I'm getting. Hopefully other carriers will eventually widen their network range out so people like me can have more of a choice.
I pay ~70$ with corporate discount.
You guys got it good. I pay 200+ a month for 4 phones. 2 on unlimited android (25$ each)1 with 200mb(10) family txt (10) 750m shared (59) then 2 phones with insurance (7each) yep.. Tmobile isnt so vad with the bill they cut my android unlimited to 25 each instead of 30. But I'm getting sick of it going to make the fam pay soon (evil laugh)
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125 a month. 900 minutes, unlimited data, 500 texts. Bout to drop my texting plan which will drop me 10 bucks. Not much but I'll take it. Google Voice ftw.
Im on an old allltel plan, 1200 sharrd, unlimited text n mms, data for the 2 phones cost $20 together and is unlimited. My bill is $180 a month for both smattphones. Is a little high, but as im sitting in the can typing this in the middle of nowhere, ks, i realize my coverage is superb.
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Reason many pay out the ass for verizon is because they have good coverage and data speeds. No other carrier in my area has solid coverage, it's all spotty.
I seriously have not been in any place without a signal unless it was underground or inside a meat locker, so for now I'll swallow the big bill for what I'm getting. Hopefully other carriers will eventually widen their network range out so people like me can have more of a choice.
I pay ~70$ with corporate discount.
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Funny, I get worse coveragr than I do with sprint, which I would think is impossible since they both roam with each other, right?
I took my ding and went to metropcs ( I know that's not an option for many)
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How'd you get them to activate a non MPCS phone? I wish phones weren;t carrier branded so I could use my Dinc on Sprint.
I have the lowest smartphone plan on Verizon, 450 minutes, unlimited data and 500 texts for $79 plus tax which comes out to $81 per month. I came from Sprint and the cheapest smartphone plan they had ran $69 per month plus tax. The $10 difference in plans being Sprint includes texts and Verizon doesn't. The reasons I switched from Sprint were; one terrible service and, two they lacked a good choice in phones. The SERO plan you are talking about is not compatible with the new smartphones and you will have to upgrade to the $69 plan and sign a two year contract to get it.
Me and my wife have a plan through my work (17% discount). our total is $130.50/month for 700minutes, my phone has unlimted (30$/month) my wifes has 150MB, and my wife added 200 texting for $5 but I use google voice since I have unlimeted data.
all in all not a bad price. as mentioned it has to do with the service. On AT&T I never got a signal at my families cottage, with verizon I do (Not sure if that was a good call since my wife can not get a hold of me on the guys weekends hehehe )
SoBBie
It is good to see that what I am paying is somewhat common on verizon and I am not missing some considerable discount haha
Also, with my circle and my 1200 min plan, my wife and i use about 5000 to 6500 minutes a month and never go over, thats a good plan
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Paying around 60$ /month with VZW. I got unlimited calling/data/texting though.
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Funny, I get worse coveragr than I do with sprint, which I would think is impossible since they both roam with each other, right?
How'd you get them to activate a non MPCS phone? I wish phones weren;t carrier branded so I could use my Dinc on Sprint.
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You have to get the esn added to metro. then have it flashed.. .. I saved my apn's for data. so when i flash a new rom. I can restore them. and have working data again.. again. if you can put up with 1x speeds. and have metro coverage. then the price cant be beat...
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I have the lowest smartphone plan on Verizon, 450 minutes, unlimited data and 500 texts for $79 plus tax which comes out to $81 per month. I came from Sprint and the cheapest smartphone plan they had ran $69 per month plus tax. The $10 difference in plans being Sprint includes texts and Verizon doesn't. The reasons I switched from Sprint were; one terrible service and, two they lacked a good choice in phones. The SERO plan you are talking about is not compatible with the new smartphones and you will have to upgrade to the $69 plan and sign a two year contract to get it.
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You can upgrade to SERO premium and get a new phone for $50 a month. I still have an ancient smartphone so I still get the $30 a month plan.
I just found out that with no contract I get no discounts at all, so I just cancelled with Verizon. I'll just play with my Inc over wifi I guess.
I think I'm just going to buy a TP2 on Sprint, it's the last smartphone they had that you could get that still works with the $30 SERO plan. The Inc is an awesome device, I love it, but I don't use my phone nearly enough to justify spending an extra $50 a month on it, that's crazy.
Prepaid is cheap!
I am on a prepaid plan that costs $27.70 per month, with no taxes, which can range from 15-20% on top of the post-paid rates. It is on the Verizon network with Verizon voicemail and 3G data, but I purchase it through a virtual network operator that buys Verizon network capacity at a discount and provides their own customer service. The company is PagePlus cellular. In turn, PagePlus cellular has dealers that are authorized to sell their plans, and the one I use is KittyWireless.com. KittyWireless offered a deal where I paid (one-time) $50 and now I get a discount on my monthly rate for life. PagePlus cellular charges $29.95 for the plan I described, and with my KittyWireless discount, I pay $27.70 per month.
I have 1200 voice minutes, 2000 text messages, and 100 MB of data per month, and I'm set up on an autopay plan that charges my credit card each month.
This plan works great if you have wifi at home and at work, and don't do a lot of music & video streaming, and you are smart about updating apps, etc. I just use email, Google navigation, and some light web browsing and come in well below the 100 MB. I also have three additional family members on the same plan, and we are all very satisfied (three of us use HTC Droid Incredibles, two rooted). There are no family plans or sharing of minutes, we each have the $27.70 plan.
The downside is that you have to provide your own device (buy on eBay, etc) and they only provide assistance if you buy a device through them, and they don't have Droid Incredibles, so you are completely on your own if you have any technical issues. Also, some of the Verizon "services" are not available, such as visual voicemail, and some other stuff that I consider as junk anyway.
Also, PagePlus cellular does not have the same level of customer service as Verizon. Expect to be on hold for 20 minutes before you get to talk to anyone. This is not for people that need hand-holding, but seems like it would be appropriate for a lot of people in the XDAdev community who are willing do research on forums, etc to solve any issues.
Hmmm, I'm paying $84.28 give or take a few cents from month to month.
Verizon Wireless
Nationwide Talk & Text 450 (unlimited text/picture messages) --- $59.99
Email & Web for SMARTPHONE --- $29.99
TEC Advanced Devices - Asurion --- $7.99
Taxes --
Then a nice 22% discount from company I work with

Worth early contract cancellation and move to Verizon?

are any of you considering instead of buying the unlocked version for 750ish dollars instead just cancelling your current contract and moving to verizon for the supposed 200 dollar contract price?
I'm thinking the Pros so far would be LTE and verizon is currently having their 4GB for the price of 2GB data plan.
I thought about it briefly only because my fiance is on verizon and it would be nice to get a shared plan. However, I am on a very cheap legacy T-mobile plan with unlimited internet. I get anywhere from 5-10mbps down and 2 up in my area. It's not worth it for me.
I hadn't planned on buying the unlocked version at all. I'm currently on AT&T (and ridiculously on a contract...despite not initiating it) and I'm jumping ship when it's released for Verizon. Right now it's like a $230 ETF, but AT&T credited me $100 because it was their miscommunication that entered me onto a new contract, in the first place. Yes, I'll still end up paying $130, but I saved $300 when I bought my phone (I was planning on buying it outright, they gave me the contract pricing but started a new contract).
Pros:
*MUCH* faster internet. I have devices on both networks and the difference is massive from 4-6Mbps and 25-35Mbps (both of which are the average of what I've gotten on both networks)
*Much* better coverage. Inside of the city I have great 3.5G on AT&T. 30 minutes outside of the city things start dropping off *very* quickly.
Better group data connections. On AT&T, anytime I'm in a very crowded area (think baseball or football stadiums) my data connection drops off to nothing. I still have full service, but I get no data at all. This means I get very few texts, if any, and my internet is all but useless. This is the biggest annoyance I have with AT&T, and I've been true for years.
Currently it is cheaper to switch then it is to buy unlocked. I am on AT&T right now and my prorated termination fee is $235. If I switch to Verizon it will cost me the $235 + $199.99 or $299.99 (whatever the phone ends up costing). in other words I will be spending $435 or $535 for the phone vs. 700+ to import it. On top of that I can sell my current phone (atrix) for around $200 (with accessories) which will bring my costs to either $235, $335, or $500+ depending on what I do.
Long story short its currently a better deal to switch carriers unless they release the unlocked version here in the us for ~$500.
If you're switching from AT&T it's probably worth it considering the monthly plans are about the same price If you're switching from T-mobile it probably isn't considering your plan is probably much cheaper.
Obviously you can make your own call on your situation, if you have LTE in your area, if Verizon's voice service is better in your area, or if you have family members on Verizon, etc.
I think the answer is different for each case. There's definitely no 1 answer here.
I was considering doing the same thing until I looked at how much it would cost me on Verizon vs. the cost if I were to stick with my T-Mobile plan.
Right now I'm paying a nice $113/m for:
750 minutes split across four lines, all with unlimited texting, and unlimited data on my phone.
by my calculations, it would be at least $80/m with my student (15%) discount at Verizon for just me, never mind the fact that I would need to pay a $200 ETF and then $200 for a phone. By the time I have my GN in hand it would have cost me $400 to get there to a more expensive plan..
If I were to switch my entire family over to Verizon, it would cost so much more per month, and they would all need to buy new phones - it's not worth it.
Instead, I sold my old nexus one for $150, bought a SGS II for $275 and am currently about to sell it for $520 or so. By my calculations, that takes off about $400 of my GN, bringing it down to about $300 - a very reasonable price for this phone.
The speeds on T-Mobile here in Seattle are pretty awesome as well. I just did a speedtest and got 7mb down (for some reason only 300kb up), while LTE may be faster, the price and battery drain makes it completely not worth it.
Unlocked + $30 PrePaid unlimited 4G T-mobile plan = pure ownage.
I'll be also swapping my HTC Rezound for Verizon's Nexus as it's within the return policy frame. Two Nexi woot
I think it may be worth switching now after reading the comments from that youtube video of the Verizon version of the phone it's listed as having 32GB as opposed to the 16GB for the unlocked version.
I'm ETFing my 2-line family plan with T-Mobile and switching to Verizon. About 4 months ago, the data speeds in my neighborhood dropped from about 2.5 Mbps to 0.5 Mbps. T-Mobile has done nothing to rectify the issue, so I'd rather pay a bit more each month and actually get what I pay for. However, I am not interested in any phone other than the GNex.
And this why carriers continue to rule in the usa because the sheep like subsidies. Vomits.
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And this why carriers continue to rule in the usa because the sheep like subsidies. Vomits.
Sent from my samsung gt i9250 which is in the wrong country.
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Actually they rule because of coverage and devices. tmobile works for some people and doesn't for most which is why it is in the financial quagmire it currently is in.
I think it's totally worth it, and I almost did it. Ultimately, for now I think I will stick with the GSM version, but the lure of LTE is very tempting. Here are the factors you should consider:
1a) Verizon has (much) faster data speeds on their Nexus if you have LTE in your area.
1b) Verizon has slower data speeds on their Nexus if you do not have LTE in your area.
2) Verizon is much better for use in crowds, like at football games where AT&T doesn't work at all.
3) Verizon generally has better coverage in buildings.
4) AT&T and T-Mobile have (much) better international options. Verizon is basically unusable internationally because you will lose your double your data plan if you ever switch to an international plan and/or rent an international phone, even temporarily (and yes, I had something like 4 conversations with various Verizon representatives about this).
I have unlimited data on AT&T, so that plus the international issue (1-2 trips a year) made me decide to pass for now. It's still incredibly tempting, though, so I wouldn't blame you at all. Just do yourself a favor and don't let the carrier subsidy be the deciding factor.
I have to admit, I didn't think of this angle. I still have a contract from AT&T from the original iPhone 4 (sold long ago). I believe my ETF currently is around $180 or so. I bought the unlocked GN two weeks ago and have been loving it, but Verizon's (expensive) network is tempting as is LTE.
But I look at it this way. I don't need more than 5 down. I mean 25-30 would be nice, but I just don't see the need for that type of bandwidth on a phone. Perhaps if I had a tethering plan, but add that in and you will burn through 4-6 gigs/month fast...so then you look at the 10 gig plan, which is a fortune. Next thing you know, your monthly bill for one line is like $130, and that's with only 450 non-rollover minutes and no texts. Not for me.
I have two lines on ATT, both with unlimited data and 200 SMSs. After my company discount, it only costs us $117 after taxes. We have like 4,000 rollover minutes.
I just can't justify it, but I do fully agree Verizon is a much better network than ATT. And then there's the "toss any pre-paid SIM" international angle...
It's just sensible to stay where I am for now. If Verizon ever did an unlimited data promotion again, I'd join in a heartbeat. They already tested the waters with double data, so I'd say it's always possible for a short-running unlimited data promo.
Ball's in your court VZW!
Also if you think the GSM nexus is going to be at this price forever you are nuts. As soon as more supply opens up and other retailers start selling it the price is going to fall rapidly. I'd just wait a month and be perfectly happy buying it from Amazon for much less.
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Also if you think the GSM nexus is going to be at this price forever you are nuts. As soon as more supply opens up and other retailers start selling it the price is going to fall rapidly. I'd just wait a month and be perfectly happy buying it from Amazon for much less.
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What do you consider "much less?" I'd bet it holds above $550 for many, many months.
For reference, the SGSII is still $552 on Amazon. It's been out for quite a while...
I don't think a single person thinks the GNEX will be $750 "forever."
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What do you consider "much less?" I'd bet it holds above $550 for many, many months.
For reference, the SGSII is still $552 on Amazon. It's been out for quite a while...
I don't think a single person thinks the GNEX will be $750 "forever."
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$200 less and no etf is a lot of change.
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I have to admit, I didn't think of this angle. I still have a contract from AT&T from the original iPhone 4 (sold long ago). I believe my ETF currently is around $180 or so. I bought the unlocked GN two weeks ago and have been loving it, but Verizon's (expensive) network is tempting as is LTE.
But I look at it this way. I don't need more than 5 down. I mean 25-30 would be nice, but I just don't see the need for that type of bandwidth on a phone. Perhaps if I had a tethering plan, but add that in and you will burn through 4-6 gigs/month fast...so then you look at the 10 gig plan, which is a fortune. Next thing you know, your monthly bill for one line is like $130, and that's with only 450 non-rollover minutes and no texts. Not for me.
I have two lines on ATT, both with unlimited data and 200 SMSs. After my company discount, it only costs us $117 after taxes. We have like 4,000 rollover minutes.
I just can't justify it, but I do fully agree Verizon is a much better network than ATT. And then there's the "toss any pre-paid SIM" international angle...
It's just sensible to stay where I am for now. If Verizon ever did an unlimited data promotion again, I'd join in a heartbeat. They already tested the waters with double data, so I'd say it's always possible for a short-running unlimited data promo.
Ball's in your court VZW!
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Just found out they are offering Microsoft Employees unlimited data for 20 dollars, so looks like i'm definitely switching over to verizon and just cancelling AT&T
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Just found out they are offering Microsoft Employees unlimited data for 20 dollars, so looks like i'm definitely switching over to verizon and just cancelling AT&T
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...so basically MSFT is incenting their employees to go to VZW for, well, Android phones?
Sounds like a great deal! (/sarcasm)
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And this why carriers continue to rule in the usa because the sheep like subsidies. Vomits.
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I like options. Sometimes its cheaper to buy outright and other times its cheaper to go on contract if you plan to be with a carrier for a couple years. In the US we only have 4 carriers really, 2 of which are GSM... so we don't switch carriers often and prices are about the same.
Buy now, pay later is the American dream.
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[INFO][GSM] Own Your Cell Service ..with Prepaid and the Galaxy Nexus [UPDATED 5/24]

WARNING: This guide should not be considered definitive nor accurate at all times. I'm going to try to keep things up to date if only to serve my own needs, but the responsibility to make your own choices in cell providers and how you spend your money are yours. Please do your own research.
Hey... up until recently I've been a loyal Sprint customer. Ten years worth of arguing with my friends who passed through Analog, TDMA, and finally GSM. I had better coverage, better data speeds, and frankly, a whole raft of why CDMA beat out GSM in technical merit. But what I did have in common with all my friends was a contract. The revolving 2 year door was a giant chain around our necks. When in 2008 I got laid off from my job at a hedge fund, I tried to get Sprint to let me out of my expensive data card contract and just keep my phone. They didn't.
Since then I've become rabidly anti-contract as cell service becomes more and more a commodity. But few people really understand what it means .. or even how .. to commoditize their cell service. We've become so used to the 2 year contract setup and postpaid system (as well as stigmatized that prepaid is for losers and deadbeats) that I've had to walk out on wireless store clerks who still argued data speeds, coverage, and their lineup of phones. The phone is becoming a PC, we want hardware features (dual core, screen size, amoled) and not software .. we bring what our phone does with us, just like our laptops and desktops. So why would we treat it any different from commodity hardware in other parts of the market? Insanity.
What is a commodity market, why is it good for me, and how do I participate?
A commodity market, simply put, is a range of products that are interchangeable with each other. Using one product does not provide a substantive difference from another. In the case of cell service, we all want three things: minutes, texts, and data. There are some differences in the products in this space, but they're negligible. Sure, one guy may have more coverage than another .. but the networks are built out enough where unless you live in some kind of hole, you can choose. Phone calls all sound (roughly) the same, text messages are all the same, and data rates are all very similar (1.5-5Mb/s is 'good enough', though some providers have some seriously high speed stuff .. with the data caps, I'm just going to download the giant BlueRay Rip on my home connection so it doesn't matter.) For most of us, all providers do the same thing. And this is good, that means we as consumer can choose based almost solely on price. Whoever has the best price will get the monthly fee, and whomever sticks it to their customer gets left with lots of people jumping ship. Overall, prices go down. But it only works if you take on the mentality of dealing with a commodity ...
Rules for Participation
- Define your minimum needs. I need unlimited minutes and at least 2GB of data a month. You have tons of tools to figure out your average usage, so work it out.
- A cell provider SHOULD NEVER be a commitment. Contracts are like HIV, once you get it they're not going away unless you have Magic Johnson amounts of cash.
- Names, branding, and customer service are to be ignored. I don't care if this month I'm using Retard Cellular, if they've got the best deal for my minimum needs I'm using it!
- Reevaluate the market regularly. I need to make sure I'm not blindly paying into my provider, I need to reward the best priced provider with my money!
That last line is really important and it's part of what makes our shiny new GSM phones absolutely brilliant. If you want you can jump between providers EVERY MONTH. We can do everything that is GSM and it makes no substantive difference. With the inclusion of the AWS bands usually only found on stuff labelled "T-Mobile" (or i9020T) this frees us from the horrors of vendor lock-in and truly makes commoditization of cell service possible.
Question: What about non-GSM providers like Sprint and Verizon?
Good question! Screw them. Both Sprint and Verizon have the ultimate in vendor lock-in, they have every phone they'll ever activate in their databases custom made for them. It's a dying model. GSM/LTE style SIM based technologies are the way forward. It's a worldwide standard and you'll be likely to see mega-band radios (5 or more!) as we progress into the future.
Question: So besides sticking it to the man, what do I gain from going to a commoditized model?
Cost savings. That's what this all comes down to. Saving your money and being smarter about how you spend it. Sprint sure loves their $10 you-have-a-cool-phone fee. F that. Screw extra fees, screw overage costs, screw desperately holding on to that grandfathered plan that you get $5 off on. Right now you'll pay pretty much $60 a month for unlimited talk and text with 2GB of data. My guess is that there's going to be a race to the bottom of costs as this model takes off (and it is, AT&T lost a pile of postpaid - that means contract - users and gain a ton more prepaid customers in Q4 2011).
Ok, so you're sold. What do you need?
1 - A GSM Galaxy Nexus Pentaband phone.
This phone allows you to use any GSM provider and get the maximum data rates from them. But you already know how awesome this phone is, you own it already!
2 - A stack of unactivated SIM cards.
If you're going to jump providers a lot, buy a pile of SIM cards off eBay. You'll usually be able to find SIM cards for a buck ($1). Buy 10 of each vendors' and have a variety.
3 - Optionally: Google Voice
This service has really matured over the last few years. It's free and works great with your Android phone. Port your number to GV if you want to keep it, or get a new one and tell all your friends you have a new number. (My God, you people who hold onto numbers like they're your own children need to understand that your number goes into someone's phonebook and is never seen again. No one memorizes numbers anymore, get over it and go through the new number process .. you'll see it's not hard. AND you'll be able to leave some people you don't want to have your number behind.) GV allows you to switch providers instantly without having to change you number with every SIM swap. Just set your new SIM's number up in GV and you're done. Also, GV's web based (and some windows clients) text messaging is really great for cube farmers like me who'll use it all day without having my phone's beeping pissing off the entire floor of cubes.
If you don't go the GV route, be prepared to port your number a lot. It can be done, but GV is so much easier.
So, the idea is simple. Review the plans offered by all of the providers. Choose their SIM, activate it, and pay for the month. At the end of the month, do the same thing again .. or stick with what you have if you want (most can be set up to do automatic payments) After 30-60 days (usually) an unused and zero value SIM card will be permanently deactivated. Shred it.
About the Providers
Service in the USA is really only provided by 2 major GSM carriers. You know them, they're AT&T and T-Mobile. Both have good coverage and both support HSPA+ (the fast data) in most metro places. HOWEVER, these two providers lease their towers to other companies called MVNO's (Mobile Virtual Network Operator). These guys give you the same coverage and service as AT&T and T-Mobile, but often at different price schemes. Below I've got a list of TEN (10) different operators you can buy service from! And they're not all the same price or features! This is where commoditization hits home. These 10 providers change prices and play against each other. Some are even the same company using different names but using different pricing and feature sets. The beauty of this arrangement is that YOU CAN CHOOSE. At any time (though it make sense monthly on your personal billing cycle) you can switch providers.
At the core it's still AT&T and T-Mobile. So let's look at the underlying networks:
AT&T: Signal at 850/1900, HSPA+ in metros (I haven't heard of much past 12Mb/s though) with great coverage nationwide, except for Nebraska and a big chunk of Maine. 850Mhz signal penetrates buildings better and repeater systems (like the one in my truck) will work with these bands. Data is overloaded in some places, most notably New York, but data rates may suffer in any major downtown .. you need to do your homework or try an AT&T SIM in the places you use it.
T-Mobile: Slightly less coverage, but quite built out in the last 10 years. 1700/2100 AWS band has a hard time with buildings sometimes and there's no install base of repeaters. Data is FAST where available, up to 42Mb/s. Less loaded than AT&T, but again, you need to test and see what works best for you.
Most of us in the US should be covered, but if you're not, it's not my problem. Try a contract on VZW if you can't get GSM coverage. I live in a city, and though I travel rurally frequently, metro functionality is my main requirement for coverage .. and both AT&T and T-Mobile work great.
Question: What about roaming?
There's no such thing on prepaid. Take a look at AT&T's coverage for postpaid contract and prepaid. There's a difference! Same goes for T-Mobile. Again, if you're in a position that you HAVE to roam on all these podunk little operators, then do what you must. But I do suggest you think critically on whether you really need coverage at that cabin in the mountains you go to once a year... is it worth the contract game for that one weekend a year?
REMEMBER: What works for one person may not be the right thing for another. Some people I know need only 250MB/mo .. they're on WiFi all the time. Me, I need about 1GB realistically, 2GB is my established minimum in case I need to do some tethering while on the road. Some people do just fine with the coverage of Simple Mobile (smallest national coverage) while others are better off with AT&T MVNOs. You need to make the decisions yourself. Just remember, you can change your mind at any time .. so if your test of Simple Mobile isn't working out, try an AT&T MVNO. If 2GB isn't enough, that $70 5GB plan on T-Mobile might do the trick. I always keep a few various sims in my laptop bag so if I'm on the road and I need more data or have poor coverage I can always pop in and activate a new one.
So, that's it. Free yourself from the carrier's contracts and postpaid bills and go prepaid. With a little bit of planning and effort you'll be riding the deals down in cost as the prepaid war heats up. It's just starting to boil ... and you're in a the perfect place to take advantage of it.
RAW PROVIDER DATA - 02/27/2012
I'm still collating this.
T-Mobile Prepaid - http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/
Coverage: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-coverage
$30/mo 100m unlim text 5G
$50/mo unlim min unlim text 100MB
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 2GB
$70/mo unlim min unlim text 5G
Throttled to EDGE after data cap
Can disable voicemail
SIMs available on T-Mobile's site for $1, get a free SIM in-store for any of the above plans
WARNING: Activation requires an “activation code” that is not printed on the SIM. It is in the activation kit, but SIMs on eBay DO NOT HAVE THEM usually.
AT&T GO Phone -http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/go-phones/index.jsp
Coverage: http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/?type=gophone&opt=payg (Click GoPhone)
Pretty much crappy plans for our device. The GNex is a "smartphone" and requires a "data package", all of which suck.
$75/mo ($50/mo plan plus 500MB data) unlim min unlim text 500MB
SIMs on eBay $1, activate online
Simple Mobile (T-Mobile MVNO) - http://www.mysimplemobile.com/
Coverage: http://www.mysimplemobile.com/Simple-Mobile-Coverage.aspx
$40/mo unlim min unlim text 5-8GB (not published) at 119kb/s
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 5-8GB (not published) HSPA+ speeds
SIMs on eBay $1 – activate online
H20 Wireless (AT&T MVNO) - http://www.h2owirelessnow.com UPDATE: Data size changes
Coverage: AT&T Go Phone
$50/mo unlim min unlim text 500MB
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 2GB "500MB at 4x speeds"??
SIMs on eBay $1 – activate online
Red Pocket Mobile (AT&T MVNO) – http://goredpocket.com
Coverage: AT&T Go Phone
$50/mo unlim min unlim text 250MB
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 2GB
SIMs on eBay $1 – activate online
Jolt Mobile (AT&T MVNO) - www.joltmobile.com
Coverage: AT&T Go Phone
$50/mo unlim min unlim text 250MB
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 2GB
SIMs hard to find online (ebay, ~$10), activate online
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Skyview (AT&T MVNO) -http://www.skyvw.com UPDATE: Data size changes
Coverage: AT&T Go Phone
$50/mo unlim min unlim text 500MB
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 2GB "500MB at 4x speeds"??
SIMs Hard to find on eBay, activate online
MyBlack Wireless (AT&T MVNO) - http://myblackwireless.com/
Coverage: AT&T Go Phone
$50/mo unlim min unlim text 250MB
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 1GB
SIMs Hard to find on eBay, activate online
AirVoice Wireless (AT&T MVNO) - http://www.airvoicewireless.com/
Coverage: AT&T Go Phone
$50/mo unlim min unlim text 100MB
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 500MB
SIMs on eBay $1 – activate online
Pure Talk (AT&T MVNO) - http://www.puretalkusa.com/
Coverage: AT&T Go Phone
$43.95/mo unlim min unlim text 300MB
SIMs hard to find on eBay, activate online
Straight Talk (AT&T/T-Mobile MVNO) – http://www.straighttalksim.com/
Coverage: AT&T and/or T-Mobile (depends on local coverage, select when you order a sim)
Additional Note: ST voice (not data) roams on other networks (including a lot of the little ones), potentially even on sister networks (AT&T will voice roam on T-Mobile and vice-versa). This likely is the largest coverage MVNO out there.
$45.00/mo unlim min unlim text "unlim" data*
* Data usage limits are not specified in the documentation .. the going theory is that 100MB/2GB a month is about "safe", though there's a lot of stories that talk about different (even more) usage. This is the sticking point of ST, you really don't know what metrics they use and you can get cut off .. so YMMV. AT&T users, including myself, are getting the standard att.mvno APN speeds of 7Mb/s or so .. so it's not throttled like the Simple Mobile $40 plan or anything.
SIMs found on their website for $15 with free 3-day shipping. Activate online.
I Am Personally Using:
Straight Talk $45 unlim talk/text with ~2GB (see notes above on data limits)
I have used:
Red Pocket $60 unlim talk/text with 2GB
T-Mobile $70 unlim talk/text with 5GB
Simple Mobile $60 unlim talk/text with ?? GB
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Some AT&T MVNOs have changed to some kind of 500MB at "4x" speeds, then some kind of slowdown up to 2GB. I have no idea what this means ... if anyone actually uses these offbeat plans, please report it.
StraightTalk appears to be the best deal for full "unlimited", given the caveats about data use.
T-Mobile's $30 still rocks for high data with 100mins.
Some notes: T-Mobile activation of SIMs can take "up to 24 to 48 hours". (as said by several CSRs) Mission activation codes CAN be overridden if they do not work, but they will backtrack the source of the SIMs by order number and tracking number. I had trouble with shipped SIMs with activation codes online, and CSRs took forever to get activated.
Simple Mobile SIMs can be activated online without CSR intervention and are immediately provisioned and available. (Other MVNOs do the same as well)
I read through all your info even though I am in the UK. It just amazes me how much your service provides rip you guys off over there. $70 for unlimited calls, texts and 5GB of data. That's just ridiculous. Over here a company called GiffGaff (<<<<) uses o2's signal and towers. I get for £10 (~£7) 250 minutes (not much off a call guy) unlimited texts and unlimited data (tethering not allowed). It just seems they rip you guys off so much because they can tbh.
I do agree with your point about GSM though. Its a thing of beauty. If my service provider hikes prices up or lowers data/text limit and The is a better option I can just jump ship. I bought the phone and own it outright why should we have to stay with just one provider when other companies can give us more bang for our buck. That's the whole point of capitalism, competition.
Jameslepable said:
I read through all your info even though I am in the UK. It just amazes me how much your service provides rip you guys off over there. $70 for unlimited calls, texts and 5GB of data. That's just ridiculous. Over here a company called GiffGaff (<<<<) uses o2's signal and towers. I get for £10 (~£7) 250 minutes (not much off a call guy) unlimited texts and unlimited data (tethering not allowed). It just seems they rip you guys off so much because they can tbh.
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I *really* don't want to stand up for our cost structure ... but there might be a mitigating circumstance ..
United States Of America: Total size area: 9,631,418 sq km
United Kingdom: Total size area: 244,820 sq km
"The state of Wisconsin in America is almost the same size as the UK [...]" or "[...] slightly smaller than Oregon."
My phone works in a significant portion of that 9,631,418 sq km. Some of the really regional providers can be cheaper (like MetroPCS), but it's still a problem of lots and lots and lots of infrastructure.
Also .. I should mention that from the US on my business line I can call the UK (land lines) for the same price as calling down the street. (About a cent and a half) However, if I call a UK cell phone, I get hit with a 30c/m charge. That's a significant difference in how the calling rates are structured.
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RAW PROVIDER DATA - 01/20/2012
I'm still collating this.
T-Mobile Prepaid - http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/
Coverage: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-coverage
$30/mo 100m unlim text 5G
$50/mo unlim min unlim text 100MB
$60/mo unlim min unlim text 2GB
$70/mo unlim min unlim text 5G
Throttled to EDGE after data cap
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You are missing one more prepaid plan - http://www.tmonews.com/2012/01/t-mobile-and-walmart-upgrade-to-unlimited-web-on-family-mobile-plan/
denis_y_s said:
You are missing one more prepaid plan - http://www.tmonews.com/2012/01/t-mobile-and-walmart-upgrade-to-unlimited-web-on-family-mobile-plan/
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Good call, though this is an odd one .. postpaid, but no contract .. and 5GB for a couple months then 250M. But I love the fact that TMO is playing with prices like this though. Their offerings post-AT&T debacle seem to show a real interest in pushing some boundaries. And AT&T said the merger would be good for competition ... smh
Good info, and interesting timing! My pre-paid SIM activation kit for T-Mobile is in the mail to my house right now Shooting for the $30 100min / UL text / UL (5GB) Data.
I also found it interesting about Simple Mobile. I'd looked at them before but thought it was kinda shady how they offer different plans for "3G speeds" and "4G speeds".
Found 1 typo:
$75/mo ($50/mo plan plus 500GB data) unlim min unlim text 500GB
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Assuming that is 500mb?
martonikaj said:
Good info, and interesting timing! My pre-paid SIM activation kit for T-Mobile is in the mail to my house right now Shooting for the $30 100min / UL text / UL (5GB) Data.
I also found it interesting about Simple Mobile. I'd looked at them before but thought it was kinda shady how they offer different plans for "3G speeds" and "4G speeds".
Found 1 typo:
Assuming that is 500mb?
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That $30 5GB is a killer plan for the data, I'm all over it if I need to run a tablet or USB modem.
As far as Simple goes, yeah, I can personally confirm the 119kb/s throttle. But it works great for my gf, who still does email, surfs the web, and plays Pandora on it all day at work ... she doesn't notice it being slow. I, however, being the obvious cellphone geek I am, want more than that!
And thanks, typo fixed.
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That $30 5GB is a killer plan for the data, I'm all over it if I need to run a tablet or USB modem.
As far as Simple goes, yeah, I can personally confirm the 119kb/s throttle. But it works great for my gf, who still does email, surfs the web, and plays Pandora on it all day at work ... she doesn't notice it being slow. I, however, being the obvious cellphone geek I am, want more than that!
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Yep the plan is a good deal for sure. I'm not a huge voice user, but I easily push 5GB data per month right now. I'm on a $60 ($70 after taxes) Even More+ Plan right now and dropping it for pre-paid. Gonna save ~$40 a month, therefore subsidizing my purchase of the Galaxy Nexus Plan on using GrooVe IP to substitute out a few minutes. I'm having mixed results atm.
If its too few minutes for me, I'm just going to bump up to the $70 UL voice / UL text / UL (5GB) data pre-paid plan. Same price as current but with UL voice lol. Really win-win.
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Plan on using GrooVe IP to substitute out a few minutes. I'm having mixed results atm.
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I purchased both GrooVe IP and gVoice but haven't really used them yet. I did a bang-up job last time I was in the UK with TMO UK prepaid there and just getting data, then doing SIP calls (CSipSimple) while on Wifi. (TMO UK blocks SIP on cell data). But GV texting still worked fine, so no one really even knew I had left the states. I'm hoping the GV clients like GrooVe work on their data network, but it'll be a few more months until I'm back there to test.
BTW, if you're passing through Heathrow, you *can* buy a SIM from a vending machine in the international terminal .. but it's a ripoff. Buy one or more on eBay before you go.
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I purchased both GrooVe IP and gVoice but haven't really used them yet. I did a bang-up job last time I was in the UK with TMO UK prepaid there and just getting data, then doing SIP calls (CSipSimple) while on Wifi. (TMO UK blocks SIP on cell data). But GV texting still worked fine, so no one really even knew I had left the states. I'm hoping the GV clients like GrooVe work on their data network, but it'll be a few more months until I'm back there to test.
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GrooVe IP has very mixed results from the reviews I see. There are so many factors and settings in play that can change the quality. It really seems hit or miss right now. Trying to figure it out.
LionAR10 said:
I *really* don't want to stand up for our cost structure ... but there might be a mitigating circumstance ..
United States Of America: Total size area: 9,631,418 sq km
United Kingdom: Total size area: 244,820 sq km
"The state of Wisconsin in America is almost the same size as the UK [...]" or "[...] slightly smaller than Oregon."
My phone works in a significant portion of that 9,631,418 sq km. Some of the really regional providers can be cheaper (like MetroPCS), but it's still a problem of lots and lots and lots of infrastructure.
Also .. I should mention that from the US on my business line I can call the UK (land lines) for the same price as calling down the street. (About a cent and a half) However, if I call a UK cell phone, I get hit with a 30c/m charge. That's a significant difference in how the calling rates are structured.
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I see your point but also I would say big american cities are more densely populated. London and Manchester aside most other cities (Am from Liverpool) aren't as big so shouldn't require as many towers as say the other cities would. But in the likes of major cities in america the would be millions of people in a small area. That would be a lot of market potential and therefore more money.
Also I could understand it costing slightly more due to more areas being coverd but the likes of $60-&70 on a pay as you go. Thats a heck of alot of money.
Jameslepable said:
Also I could understand it costing slightly more due to more areas being coverd but the likes of $60-&70 on a pay as you go. Thats a heck of alot of money.
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And to think, I was paying $180/mo on Sprint for my EVO and a data card. I feel downright giddy paying only $60/mo! (And the data card is a moot point with decent tethering)
I'm tempted to cancel my ATT plan ($165 ETF) and go to Red Pocket. Make that ETF back after a few months. Thanks for the write up!
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Hi. Welcome to gsm.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
I've been telling people this for YEARS now. Thanks for the fantastic write-up though - very clear.
Howardforums has a lot of different threads about each specific provider's cheap plans, but this single resource is very helpful. I'd hope that all of us with GSM phones take advantage of the fact that we can swap out sims whenever we want, and Google Voice lets us free ourselves from the tethers of the carriers.
I'm planning on visiting Orlando and Washington in the summer and going on t-mo's $30 for a month but i've heard that they are getting rid of that plan and I don't want to spend like $60 for two weeks of usage
T-Mobile has a NO CONTRACT POST PAID plans. It's called Monthly4G. It's on their website.
And yes, PrePaid is for losers
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Monthly 4G is pre-paid...

Federal-Univ Serv Assess Non-LD ???

I know the Sprint Surcharges are just fees Sprint wants to charge their customers because they are too greedy to pay it on their own as a benefit to their customers. But I am curious as to what the Federal-Univ Serv Assess Non-LD is because I have not been able to find any exact information on it. I tried chatting with a Rep but she could not give me any real answer on what it is other than a blanket statement saying its based on taxes Sprint has to pay. Im paying $7.21 for something I have no idea about.
Under the Government Fees & Taxes, I also see a California State-Univ Lifeline Serv Charge for $1.21. I need answers
I also need answers too. Every month the "Federal Taxes" are high and high.
I also have my employee discount and when change the $130.00 for two line to $110.00 first line and $19.99 the second my bill go high again.
When I get my phone the bill was $141.90 now $151.50. Yes $10!!!
Im starting to hate Sprint, but they are the only with unlimited data.
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Does no one really care about this?
call your congressman...
it is a federally asses fee. although sprint is the one to choose to pass this along to you, it is because it is assesed to them. would you feel better if they just said that your plan is actually 139.99 instead and still put it toward paying this fee?
30 seconds with google came up with this government page that explains what these fees are:
http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/phonebills/samplePhonebill.html
As far as whether sprint should pay it for you, if they did that, who's money would they use to pay it? They'd have to get it from somewhere, so it would come from money they charge you for you service. So, instead of burying the costs they incur, they list it.
They could pull it out of the pure profit $10/mo data fee they charge, among all the other fees they charge to double the advertised price. Straight Talk and Cricket seem to do just fine under $70/mo without all the bogus fees. Perhaps they should ask these companies how they can afford to do it at half the price.
wingbat said:
They could pull it out of the pure profit $10/mo data fee they charge, among all the other fees they charge to double the advertised price.
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Trolololwut? Sprint has been operating at a net LOSS of hundreds of millions of dollars for 5 years now. I don't know where you get the idea that Sprint is hoarding a bunch of "profits." Even AT&T and Verizon, with all their luxurious capital (and often $20-30/month higher average bills, might I add) are still burning through it to build their own completely spectrum-segregated LTE networks on top of maintaining and improving their 3G networks. That cost billions upon billions every year, and Sprint is a very distant 3rd. Then you have to factor in the money that they have to give back to Lightsquared for backing out of their deal to buy LTE spectrum using satellite coverage (basically the spectrum satellites were interfering with some GPS devices and satellites, so the FCC denied them approval). Oh, and don't forget the $4 Billion that Sprint had to pay Apple to get the iPhone for the next 3 years.
wingbat said:
Straight Talk and Cricket seem to do just fine under $70/mo without all the bogus fees. Perhaps they should ask these companies how they can afford to do it at half the price.
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Oh, I guess you didn't know that Cricket and Straight Talk don't actually own their network infrastructure. They rent out the towers from those with the resources to build them, as in AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and SPRINT. That's why the cheapo carriers can afford to offer those low prices, they just thrown the major carriers some money. Of course, the trade-off is that service sucks outside of the major cities, so good luck actually making calls in between. Sprint, however, doesn't have the luxury of bumming off of Verizon's towers, you know, because they're direct competitors on a national scale.
Honestly, how the hell do you think this phone company can afford to charge me $85/month for unlimited EVERYTHING and still build/maintain a fast and consistent 3G and 4G network? If you want to pick a fight, pick it with AT&T and Verizon, but since you're on the one US carrier with a couple BILLIONS of dollars of debt, you'd best sit down and appreciate your relatively cheap bill.
I pick a fight with Sprint because they offer unlimited everything, on a 1x connection that's slower than dialup, and then charge an additional $10/mo for that luxury because I have an Android phone. It takes less time to call someone than for the email to send after I hit send. They can afford to offer unlimited everything for $85/mo because they charge $130/mo for it, and are not capable of providing what they sell.
At least when I had Verizon, they warned me that 3g may not work in my area. But it did, and still does, as well as their recently rolled out LTE. Sprint? Nothing planned in the next 6 months. Perhaps Sprint should consider leasing tower space if they want to remain relevant over the next 10 years. Right now, they can't compete on coverage nor connectivity.
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Dante of the Inferno said:
Trolololwut? Sprint has been operating at a net LOSS of hundreds of millions of dollars for 5 years now. I don't know where you get the idea that Sprint is hoarding a bunch of "profits." Even AT&T and Verizon, with all their luxurious capital (and often $20-30/month higher average bills, might I add) are still burning through it to build their own completely spectrum-segregated LTE networks on top of maintaining and improving their 3G networks.
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Im sorry but that's bull. If Sprint was doing so badly, they wouldnt be here for this long and they wouldnt be adding LTE or spending money on the Iphone or anything like that. You know they are profiting or else why would they continue to run their business?
Also, At&T and Verizon may be spending billions on the LTE network but they are also making billions on top of knowing LTE will bring in more customers.
Dante of the Inferno said:
Oh, and don't forget the $4 Billion that Sprint had to pay Apple to get the iPhone for the next 3 years.
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That Sprint chose to pay. They saw a good marketing move when they saw it and sure it cost them a bit more than they wanted (or did it?) but think about how fast they will make that money back with all the transfers to Sprint's unlimited plan?
Dante of the Inferno said:
Honestly, how the hell do you think this phone company can afford to charge me $85/month for unlimited EVERYTHING and still build/maintain a fast and consistent 3G and 4G network?
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Because: 1. Its 2012 and those technologies arent new, and 2. I pay $40 a month for "unlimited" gigabytes of unlimited information, media, news, etc on what is the Internet. No need to pay to connect extra devices, no need to pay extra for certain websites, no need to pay for more than one user.
Whose Money
poit said:
...As far as whether sprint should pay it for you, if they did that, who's money would they use to pay it?
Whose money? Start with Sprint's new CEO Marcelo Claure: "Sprint will pay Claure $1.5 million a year in salary, on top of a $500,000 signing bonus, and provide potential performance-based bonuses that could be twice his salary or larger, according to a company filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. He also will receive potential stock and options awards worth $24 million when granted to him, the filing said."
From the Kansas City Star article "Sprint names Brightstar founder CEO, replacing Dan Hesse". I'd provide a link, but as a new member here I'm not allowed. Google the article title to find the full article if interested.
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rogers 6gb superplan

Any canadian customers should jump all over this!!
unlimited canadawide my10
200 daytime mins
free evenings after 6 and weekends
6gb of data
unlimited texting
Yup jumped onto it as soon as I saw the offer, I already had all that at the same price but only 1GB.
crixley said:
Any canadian customers should jump all over this!!
unlimited canadawide my10
200 daytime mins
free evenings after 6 and weekends
6gb of data
unlimited texting
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How much?
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^^^ This
None of that means anything with no price.
I'm curious as I have almost exactly the same plan on Bell right now, with a few other added goodies but less data (still way more than I use though)
speedyink said:
^^^ This
None of that means anything with no price.
I'm curious as I have almost exactly the same plan on Bell right now, with a few other added goodies but less data (still way more than I use though)
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Its 60$. I read Bell and virgin followed up with their own 6gb plans here's a link with the bell/virgin info.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/07/18/virgin-rolls-out-new-6gb-60month-plan/
I'm lucky with bell. I have a plan for a few years I upgrade from a normal cellphone e an to a smart phone. My old plan had unlimited internet. I have the 6 gb plan right now. But they forgot to take my other unlimited plan. So I have basically a unlimited data plan including tethering. I thanks bell
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crixley said:
Any canadian customers should jump all over this!!
unlimited canadawide my10
200 daytime mins
free evenings after 6 and weekends
6gb of data
unlimited texting
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does it have caller ID?
I have a standard 200min+unlimited incoming calls+6gb+unlimited text +5pm evenings and weekends for the same price (60).
So it's basically my10 vs free incoming.
Why even bother with Rogers?
For 21$ more with fido I have
UNLIMITED incoming outgoing 24/7 35$
UNLIMITED across canada 24/7 I could be in any city and call any city in Canada for FREE 0$
UNLIMITED calling to the united states 24/7 from any city in canada but not the other way around 15$
UNLIMITED sms
UNLIMITED mms
6 GIGS of data 30$
Call diplay
Call forwarding and what have you
BILLED BY THE SECOND (not that it matters)
Unless you have an Lte handset I don't know why you're messing with rogers
and Unless you live behind gods back or in a bunker there's no reason to mess with Bell or Telus
Just buy the handset you want unlock it Flash whatever you want on it and come into the light.
This is awesome timing my contract is just ending with fido.
(Leaving them due to horrible customer service plus they are dropping per second billing) and Now Rogers will be bringing LTE to my area.
I just bought an Unlocked Galaxy Nexus. Usually when you sign up for a new contract you get to subsidize a phone but considering what is on the market right now I'd rather save the subsidy for a later date (2013).
Does any one know if this is possible or does it require a new 3 year commitment?
Is this plan only available on a 3year contract?
eksdee905 said:
This is awesome timing my contract is just ending with fido.
(Leaving them due to horrible customer service plus they are dropping per second billing) and Now Rogers will be bringing LTE to my area.
I just bought an Unlocked Galaxy Nexus. Usually when you sign up for a new contract you get to subsidize a phone but considering what is on the market right now I'd rather save the subsidy for a later date (2013).
Does any one know if this is possible or does it require a new 3 year commitment?
Is this plan only available on a 3year contract?
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Why the hell would billing by the second matter if everything is UNLIMITED?
You're getting LTE with rogers but you have a galaxy nexus with no LTE I presume
you should should stay with fido after your contract is done get the best deal you can when your contract is over they have to keep charging you the same thing. In a year or so when LTE is implemented in your area and you find an LTE phone worth dropping the gnex for then and only then Jump ship by all means. Don't worry about the deal still being around something better will come along.:good:
mrnovanova said:
Unless you have an Lte handset I don't know why you're messing with rogers
and Unless you live behind gods back or in a bunker there's no reason to mess with Bell or Telus
Just buy the handset you want unlock it Flash whatever you want on it and come into the light.
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I'm with Bell because Rogers reps repeatedly lied to me just to get me off the phone. And by repeatedly I mean a solid 3 months of bull****, costing me lots of money that I never got back, and time I really could have spent more productive. Eventually I bailed and refused to go back to that sadistic company. Fido being owned by Rogers can go f*** themselves as well. Also they screwed my younger brother out of his $200 deposit, which leads me to believe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Virgin has also come out with a 6GB plan.
300
Anytime Minutes
UNLIMITED
Weekends & Early Evenings from 5pm
6 GB
Data Usage
Additional data is only $10/GB
limited time offer
UNLIMITED
Canada, U.S., & International Text and Pic Messaging from Canada
UNLIMITED
Incoming Calls
The only thing missing is Canada wide Calling even if it was for My5 or whatever i was always getting dinged a few bux for calling some one just outside the city...
IMO the ways traffic is networked nowdays there really isnt and such thing as long distance anymore.. No switch boards to patch you through to another carriers telephone lines. Its just a cash grab.
Rogers had this deal before also, I was able to get mine for 50/month. 6GB is hard to fill up though so its a good deal.
I jumped on this.
I hate Rogers, but I'm stuck with them due to contract and I have come to the conclusion that all the providers suck.
But this plan was IDENTICAL to the plan I was already on with the exception of the data limit. I was on a 1GB plan. So now I am bumped up to 6GB along with everything else.
I also got a value pack which includes Call display, some additional minutes and txts (which are useless since its unlimited incoming and outgoing anyway), call forwarding, enhanced voice mail, ringbacks, and something else. I have a credit for all the value packs so I don't actually pay for them.
So all that for $60 I am pretty happy.
Btw, even though the GNex is not LTE you can still get it. I was on a 3G plan and the rep told me (we will see for sure) that this plan will update me to 4G connection speeds. So if you were like me and still on 3G plan this is definitely worth it imo.
--- Now I am just keeping my fingers crossed that the rep didn't lie to me and everything is as he claimed it would be. Been screwed in the past so I had him repeat everything to me twice haha
bourne-nolonger said:
I jumped on this.
I hate Rogers, but I'm stuck with them due to contract and I have come to the conclusion that all the providers suck.
But this plan was IDENTICAL to the plan I was already on with the exception of the data limit. I was on a 1GB plan. So now I am bumped up to 6GB along with everything else.
I also got a value pack which includes Call display, some additional minutes and txts (which are useless since its unlimited incoming and outgoing anyway), call forwarding, enhanced voice mail, ringbacks, and something else. I have a credit for all the value packs so I don't actually pay for them.
So all that for $60 I am pretty happy.
Btw, even though the GNex is not LTE you can still get it. I was on a 3G plan and the rep told me (we will see for sure) that this plan will update me to 4G connection speeds. So if you were like me and still on 3G plan this is definitely worth it imo.
--- Now I am just keeping my fingers crossed that the rep didn't lie to me and everything is as he claimed it would be. Been screwed in the past so I had him repeat everything to me twice haha
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The GNex isn't capable of LTE so no matter what you will not be able to get LTE speeds. The radio chip in the phone doesn't support it in Canada. If that's what your wondering?
*Edit* - And technically the GNex is 21Mbps which is classified as 4GHSPA so you already have 4G. 3G or 'Edge' on Rogers is anything below 14Mbps. LTE is anything above 42Mbps.
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The GNex isn't capable of LTE so no matter what you will not be able to get LTE speeds. The radio chip in the phone doesn't support it in Canada. If that's what your wondering?
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I know that the gnex isn't compatible with LTE. But should work the 4G no?
I get so bloody confused by all the different networks now
Hmm well it will be interesting to see if there is any difference. Even if there isn't I'm still happy to have the 6gb. Thanks for clearing that up.
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you know, I'm with fido and i'm paying 33.90 a month for unlimited incoming calls, unlimited local and international texts, unlimited evenings and weekends starting at 7pm and i get 200 mins per month.
Sometimes I feel like I'm getting ripped off but in the end; that's what it was then and no other company was better then.
NOW I've been looking at different carrier contract because my girlfriend is due for a renewal soon and rogers definately has the best plans for the best prices. ALSO they have the best reception in the city. You can be in a basement and it'll work; with BELL forget about it, you wont even get reception on the top room of your house.
Personally, I think you guys are crazy to pay so much money just to have portable internet. I use straight up wi-fi at home and thats itttt. I am in no need for data. But everyone has different uses for it i guess
MRsf27 said:
you know, I'm with fido and i'm paying 33.90 a month for unlimited incoming calls, unlimited local and international texts, unlimited evenings and weekends starting at 7pm and i get 200 mins per month.
Sometimes I feel like I'm getting ripped off but in the end; that's what it was then and no other company was better then.
NOW I've been looking at different carrier contract because my girlfriend is due for a renewal soon and rogers definately has the best plans for the best prices. ALSO they have the best reception in the city. You can be in a basement and it'll work; with BELL forget about it, you wont even get reception on the top room of your house.
Personally, I think you guys are crazy to pay so much money just to have portable internet. I use straight up wi-fi at home and thats itttt. I am in no need for data. But everyone has different uses for it i guess
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I live in a basement apartment in Thornhill and my reception is horrible. You'd swear the walls were pure lead. I have to put my phone on the Window sill just to get two bars which are sketchy at best.
Having data is nice, special when your in a pinch and your lost or something. Good for work as well.
But like you said everyone is different
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bourne-nolonger said:
I live in a basement apartment in Thornhill and my reception is horrible. You'd swear the walls were pure lead. I have to put my phone on the Window sill just to get two bars which are sketchy at best.
Having data is nice, special when your in a pinch and your lost or something. Good for work as well.
But like you said everyone is different
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are you with BELL? just curious cause you said your reception is terrible but didnt state what carrier your with
Mobilicity > big 3
Brb getting unlimited talk text and data for $23 (you can't get this plan anymore)
But you could still get all this for like $35
Oh also Mobilicity is increasing their network speed this year and expanding like crazy, you all should switch to a carrier that doesn't rip you off and lock you in contracts
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