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Currently have a Galaxy Nexus pre-ordered on Bell on a 3 yr contract should i switch?

Hey Everyone,
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus pre-ordered on Bell on a three year contract ($185 and $50/month for 500mb of data + 150 minutes). I found out that Mobilicity is also a GSM network that will work with the Galaxy Nexus and the price per month is only $17.50/month (for unlimited data, unlimited local calling and caller ID!) but the only downside is that many people report that the network drops often and there is no HSPA+ speeds. I know this may seem like a REALLY stupid question to ask, but do you guys think I should cancel the order, and then re-order the Galaxy Nexus unlocked for $800? (Taxes + cancellation fee). I mean with the network not supporting HSPA+ and the network itself not being supported in some areas in Canada (although I don't travel much and according to the coverage map I'm fully supported), is it really worth it from switching from my current order with Bell on a 3 year contract to Mobilicity?
Note: I realize its a fairly stupid question, but I haven't been thinking straight for the past few days and your comments will be extremely appreciated.

I go through 500MB of data in a week. That plan would never work for me. I have a T-Moble/Wal-Mart $30/month unlimited data (5GB at H+), unlimited text, 100 talk mins (I never talk on the phone) and bought an unlocked GN for $850. The closest plan would cost me $99/month with Verizon.
I don't get why people can't realize that buying a good phone and then getting a cheap plan is cheaper in the long run.

Taggard said:
I go through 500MB of data in a week. That plan would never work for me. I have a T-Moble/Wal-Mart $30/month unlimited data (5GB at H+), unlimited text, 100 talk mins (I never talk on the phone) and bought an unlocked GN for $850. The closest plan would cost me $99/month with Verizon.
I don't get why people can't realize that buying a good phone and then getting a cheap plan is cheaper in the long run.
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I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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Towle said:
I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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Huh?
$30 x 24mo + $850 phone = $1570
$60 x 24mo + $150 phone = $1590
And he overpaid for the phone considering most are getting it for around ~$700 shipped. So for most in his situation it'd be more like ~$1420 for 2 years + phone. And you got a good deal on your SGSII, as T-mo advertises it for $229. So we can say most people's annual cost in your situation is ~$1670.
So if we go with real-world math its ~$1420 vs. ~$1670....
Not to mention that you're on a contract, and he isn't. Some people don't like being in a contract and that's worth it for them.

Yea I'm a heavy data user.... so I thought. But looking at several past invoices I realized I only use about 200 minutes and about 1.5-2gb a month data. I utilize wifi at work, work, and hotels when I can.
I pay $60 a month on T-Mobile for 1000 minutes and 5gb cap.
Buying the phone outright and using the Nexus on a cheap plan (Simple Mobile or Walmart special) is the way to go.
I also have a Verizon blackberry through work. I'm ditching my personal line, buying the Nexus on a new contract price on the corporate account and saving my money.
500mb of data would kill me... especially if there are overages and penalties.
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Towle said:
I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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$149 up front but you pay full price for the phone over the 2 years which is $15 a month or more extra on top of the 59.99 a month

martonikaj said:
Huh?
$30 x 24mo + $850 phone = $1570
$60 x 24mo + $150 phone = $1590
And he overpaid for the phone considering most are getting it for around $700 shipped.
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Correct 30x24+850=1570, which would work if there were no taxes and fees. And I did mine wrong I was going off of the time until I can upgrade again, my bad.
I'm still paying less than him after taxes and fees, and getting 10x the minutes.
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b1337 said:
$149 up front but you pay full price for the phone over the 2 years which is $15 a month or more extra on top of the 59.99 a month
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What? No. I pay $149 total for the phone, I'm not on a value plan.
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Towle said:
Correct 30x24+850=1570, which would work if there were no taxes and fees. And I did mine wrong I was going off of the time until I can upgrade again, my bad.
I'm still paying less than him after taxes and fees, and getting 10x the minutes.
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Look at my post again for a better breakdown... And even if he's paying 10% sales tax on his monthly purchases (there's no carrier fees involved with a pre-pay plan), that's only another $72 over 2 years.
That walmart/T-mo prepay play is an amazing deal. I'm looking to switch to it myself from my EM+ plan.

Towle said:
What? No. I pay $149 total for the phone, I'm not on a value plan.
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pinky up i need that plan!!

The point I'm trying to make is that there is no savings in buying a phone outright and going on an off contract plan (when comparing apples to apples with the plans). The only difference is one has a contract and one doesn't. Which I don't plan on leaving Tmobile anytime soon, or ever, because everyone else is more expensive.
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Towle said:
The point I'm trying to make is that there is no savings in buying a phone outright and going on an off contract plan. The only difference is one has a contract and one doesn't. Which I don't plan on leaving Tmobile anytime soon, or ever, because everyone else is more expensive.
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Well there is considering that this phone isn't offered on T-mobile... If you're going to be buying a phone full price to get one not available on the carrier, then you're saving money by going pre-pay or some form of off-contract service. And like I said, people see value in being off contract.
I wasn't trying to say you're doing the wrong thing (everyone makes their own choice for service that works for them), but I have to point out blatant math errors when you're trying to prove your point. He really is spending less money over 2 years.

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Well there is considering that this phone isn't offered on T-mobile... If you're going to be buying a phone full price to get one not available on the carrier, then you're saving money by going pre-pay or some form of off-contract service. And like I said, people see value in being off contract.
I wasn't trying to say you're doing the wrong thing (everyone makes their own choice for service that works for them), but I have to point out blatant math errors when you're trying to prove your point. He really is spending less money over 2 years.
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I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong by going that route either, it's all personal preference. I just didn't like the statement "I don't get why people don't realize" when it's not true.
And your comparison isn't even valid. I'm pretty sure neither of us live in fake worlds and I paid $149 for my phone and he paid $850 for his. Even if they come out to be the same price over 2 years, I'm getting 10x the minutes, and don't have to fork over $600+ at one shot. Like I said, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the other plans whatsoever, I just don't want people saying that everyone else is stupid for not going that route, when it's all personal preference.
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I'm on someones employee t-mobile plan : ) 2k minutes my faves unlimited txt web tethering and insurance for $10 a month : )
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Towle said:
I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong by going that route either, it's all personal preference. I just didn't like the statement "I don't get why people don't realize" when it's not true.
And your comparison isn't even valid. I'm pretty sure neither of us live in fake worlds and I paid $149 for my phone and he paid $850 for his. Even if they come out to be the same price over 2 years, I'm getting 10x the minutes, and don't have to fork over $600+ at one shot. Like I said, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the other plans whatsoever, I just don't want people saying that everyone else is stupid for not going that route, when it's all personal preference.
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I simply covered the fact that most people are buying their Nexus' for ~$700, and T-mobile advertises the SGSII for $229.
That aside, I think his statement still holds strong. You've obviously crunched the numbers but most don't. Most people don't realize that there are fantastic off contract or pre-pay options that can save them $100's per year. Especially if they're coming from Verizon or AT&T, we're talking about moving from ~$100 per month to ~$30.

Thanks so much for the replies guys I think what I'll be doing is buying it on a three year contract, buying another phone unlocked after a year or so when it becomes TRULY obsoleted in terms of software + hardware and using the sim on that. (I also had a question: would the galaxy nexus be considered "unlocked" after I remove the sim? Or is it still locked to the carrier? Also, if it is locked to the carrier, could I just get it unlocked from an external source?) Also, I have 14 days to return the phone (as long as I don't use 15 minutes or 1.5 mb) Finally, I'm not on a two year contract, but a 3 year one. The best plan I could get is $70/month and I get 6GB of data + 200 minutes. I see how I'm losing money, but I'm in Canada and the plans here are MUCH worse than in the US.

mohitrocks said:
Thanks so much for the replies guys I think what I'll be doing is buying it on a three year contract, buying another phone unlocked after a year or so when it becomes TRULY obsoleted in terms of software + hardware and using the sim on that. (I also had a question: would the galaxy nexus be considered "unlocked" after I remove the sim? Or is it still locked to the carrier? Also, if it is locked to the carrier, could I just get it unlocked from an external source?) Also, I have 14 days to return the phone (as long as I don't use 15 minutes or 1.5 mb) Finally, I'm not on a two year contract, but a 3 year one. The best plan I could get is $70/month and I get 6GB of data + 200 minutes. I see how I'm losing money, but I'm in Canada and the plans here are MUCH worse than in the US.
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Hopefully it will be unlocked from Bell. The Nexus S was, and some people have reported Bell reps saying the Galaxy Nexus will be as well.
You should ask Bell for 6 GB though. I talked to a rep and told him that Rogers was offering me 6 GB for the 500 MB price (unadvertised, but it was all over mobile sites a week or two ago), and asked if Bell could do the same for me if I was signing a 3-year contract. He said they would. It's common for Bell and Rogers to offer the 6 GB at times... ask for it, and if you're signing a 3-year contract you might just get it. Why have only 500 MB if you can get 6 GB for the same price?

Wait, what? A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? I thought 24 months was hard enough!

momagic said:
Wait, what? A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? I thought 24 months was hard enough!
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It's the unfortunate standard for Canada. The two-year contract price for the GN is $599.99. That's F***ing ridiculous. This is why I decided to let my current contract run out in 15 months and not sign another. It's unlocked phones and the negotiating ability of switching for me now.
I'm also hoping the GN is carrier unlocked, as it should be, from Bell. Since I'm buying it outright anyways, I'll just drop my Telus SIM in and be a happy camper. Otherwise I have to wait until January when Telus and Rogers release it.

Prof-KOS said:
It's the unfortunate standard for Canada. The two-year contract price for the GN is $599.99. That's F***ing ridiculous. This is why I decided to let my current contract run out in 15 months and not sign another. It's unlocked phones and the negotiating ability of switching for me now.
I'm also hoping the GN is carrier unlocked, as it should be, from Bell. Since I'm buying it outright anyways, I'll just drop my Telus SIM in and be a happy camper. Otherwise I have to wait until January when Telus and Rogers release it.
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I can confirm that the Bell GN is unlocked. Just popped a Telus sim in and it worked.

[Q] Can you "Own your cell service" in Canada?

I know that Canada's cellphone market is unfortunately less competitive than the US's but I've been very intrigued by this thread. I had a contracted Galaxy Nexus for two weeks from Bell, but I took it back before the 14 day tester period was up. I quite liked my Nexus but I figured if I was signing on for 3 years, I might as well have the most up to date thing I could so I waited to see what the SIII was going to be like. I'm not really sold on it and since it'll likely be mid summer or later before it's in Canada, I'm thinking I won't bother.
However, if a new Nexus or even the iPhone 5 really makes me want to upgrade in 6 - 9 months, I don't want to be eating my contract for a ton of money. So I have a few questions:
1) Are there any crazy deals in Canada like the Tmobile 30 dollar plans with good data/texting and etc that are detailed in the thread I linked above. I'm in Eastern Canada, so I'm pretty sure Wind doesn't have much of a presence here, but even still I'd count them in since I feel they will in the near future.
2) I've seen a lot of 399 dollar Nexus' listed places. Google Play, Expansys, Newegg (for a bit more). All of these seem to be largely American shipped, so I get hammered with shipping and tax pushing upward of 500 or more. Google Play didn't ship to Canada as far as I could tell, though in comments on websites I saw people saying they had gotten on from Google play to Canada. Would Expansys be my best bet (475 it ends up with tax and shipping) or is there any way around Google Play/a better place I missed.
3) Most importantly, a GSM version of the Nexus from Google Play that's supposed to be for the US would work in Canada, correct?
If there is some awesome Canadian version of Own your cell service that I couldn't find (I sifted through search results but got nothing), I'd love to see that. I largely want to know if dropping 400-500 dollars on a Nexus to run prepaid plans would be worth it if I only kept it under a year.
Currently I would pay 49.99 from Bell to upgrade to a Nexus, and I'd pay 70 bux a month for 1 gig data/fab 10/unlimited texting. I can get a 7 dollar/month damage warranty thing that replaces the phone for 150 dollars from bell. If there was a good prepaid plan for about 40 dollar, I'd be saving 30 dollars a month, for say 10 months would be saving 300, which almost pays off the Nexus and I would have no worries about being locked into a contract if I decided to not use my phone a month. I'd also be able to sign a contract down the road if a new, crazy Nexus came out that I really wanted.

chrstphrbrnnn said:
I know that Canada's cellphone market is unfortunately less competitive than the US's but I've been very intrigued by this thread. I had a contracted Galaxy Nexus for two weeks from Bell, but I took it back before the 14 day tester period was up. I quite liked my Nexus but I figured if I was signing on for 3 years, I might as well have the most up to date thing I could so I waited to see what the SIII was going to be like. I'm not really sold on it and since it'll likely be mid summer or later before it's in Canada, I'm thinking I won't bother.
However, if a new Nexus or even the iPhone 5 really makes me want to upgrade in 6 - 9 months, I don't want to be eating my contract for a ton of money. So I have a few questions:
1) Are there any crazy deals in Canada like the Tmobile 30 dollar plans with good data/texting and etc that are detailed in the thread I linked above. I'm in Eastern Canada, so I'm pretty sure Wind doesn't have much of a presence here, but even still I'd count them in since I feel they will in the near future.
2) I've seen a lot of 399 dollar Nexus' listed places. Google Play, Expansys, Newegg (for a bit more). All of these seem to be largely American shipped, so I get hammered with shipping and tax pushing upward of 500 or more. Google Play didn't ship to Canada as far as I could tell, though in comments on websites I saw people saying they had gotten on from Google play to Canada. Would Expansys be my best bet (475 it ends up with tax and shipping) or is there any way around Google Play/a better place I missed.
3) Most importantly, a GSM version of the Nexus from Google Play that's supposed to be for the US would work in Canada, correct?
If there is some awesome Canadian version of Own your cell service that I couldn't find (I sifted through search results but got nothing), I'd love to see that. I largely want to know if dropping 400-500 dollars on a Nexus to run prepaid plans would be worth it if I only kept it under a year.
Currently I would pay 49.99 from Bell to upgrade to a Nexus, and I'd pay 70 bux a month for 1 gig data/fab 10/unlimited texting. I can get a 7 dollar/month damage warranty thing that replaces the phone for 150 dollars from bell. If there was a good prepaid plan for about 40 dollar, I'd be saving 30 dollars a month, for say 10 months would be saving 300, which almost pays off the Nexus and I would have no worries about being locked into a contract if I decided to not use my phone a month. I'd also be able to sign a contract down the road if a new, crazy Nexus came out that I really wanted.
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what do you mean own you cell service???? off contract? if so yes you will be paying 500$ for sure

Click my link in my first paragraph. It's a link to a thread called "Own your cell service..with prepaid and the Galaxy Nexus". The idea is you get an unlocked Nexus, multiple sims and flip between various carriers who are offering the best prepaid bang for your buck, rather than getting stuck in a long term, expensive contract. However, the US is more competitive than Canada in terms of cell providers, so I was wondering if it was even possible to accomplish this in Canada.

dr mcknight said:
what do you mean own you cell service???? off contract? if so yes you will be paying 500$ for sure
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Read the thread he linked...

Unfortunately at least in Ontario the pay as you go market is pretty terrible.
I have a GN I bought in the UK and came back with, and have been casually shopping around while my Bell contract expires on my old phone.
So far, I'm currently using a Telus PAYG service which offers VM call I'd unlimited texting and 250MB data for 20 a month and that's about the best I've found.
The "big 3" all require basically minimum of 20-30 a month to get data and you're at less than 500MB or less. Then you'd still need top up on the account if you wanted any voice.
I've no experience with eBay for sims for Canada but to get from the carriers generally they all charge I think it was 15 for a PAYG.
If you want to try 30 day ''contracts' there's decent options I'm finding through Rogers and Bell retention but still going to be around 60 a month and no real differentiation between carrier. If you're not an existing customer they'll charge 25 for a service fee and run a credit check.
Now if you only live in a major city and have an i9250 then the AWS carriers (like Wind) are a bit more attractive. The Rogers version and not sure about the play version lack the AWs band.
Hope this helps you get started and would be interested if there are options.

ceribaen said:
Unfortunately at least in Ontario the pay as you go market is pretty terrible.
I have a GN I bought in the UK and came back with, and have been casually shopping around while my Bell contract expires on my old phone.
So far, I'm currently using a Telus PAYG service which offers VM call I'd unlimited texting and 250MB data for 20 a month and that's about the best I've found.
The "big 3" all require basically minimum of 20-30 a month to get data and you're at less than 500MB or less. Then you'd still need top up on the account if you wanted any voice.
I've no experience with eBay for sims for Canada but to get from the carriers generally they all charge I think it was 15 for a PAYG.
If you want to try 30 day ''contracts' there's decent options I'm finding through Rogers and Bell retention but still going to be around 60 a month and no real differentiation between carrier. If you're not an existing customer they'll charge 25 for a service fee and run a credit check.
Now if you only live in a major city and have an i9250 then the AWS carriers (like Wind) are a bit more attractive. The Rogers version and not sure about the play version lack the AWs band.
Hope this helps you get started and would be interested if there are options.
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Yeah, I'll looked through everything that's offered in Atlantic Canada and it seemed as if Telus had the best offer, and it was still over 50 bucks with a few missing features. I'm not really saving much money (if any) shelling out 500 for a Nexus if I dump it within a year (which would probably happen, as a new Nexus would be around by then). Still, I'm sick of being locked with Bell. Tough decision I suppose...

[Q] Verizon Unlimited Data Note 2

I have a HTC Thunderbolt with unlimited Data and most months I go over 2 Gigs. I'm going to get the note 2 when it comes out and I want to keep my data plan so I need to know some things.
1.) Has anyone went through this ordeal yet ?
2.) Do I need to buy an international version, and why?
3.) Where can I buy one for under 50 Bucks ? (Just kidding) !!!http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

International version will not work with Verizon LTE. You need to wait for the Verizon announcement.

You won't be able to use any other model on Verizon than the official Verizon model. That's the fate of it being a CDMA carrier like Sprint, even when both use LTE which is a GSM based technology.

Not sure if you are aware but if you plan to keep your Verizon unlimited data plan, you will need to buy the phone unsubsidized.

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Not sure if you are aware but if you plan to keep your Verizon unlimited data plan, you will need to buy the phone unsubsidized.
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Yes, I know, but, does that mean I have to buy it from Verizon, or can I get it from Amazon ?

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Not sure if you are aware but if you plan to keep your Verizon unlimited data plan, you will need to buy the phone unsubsidized.
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...qid=1349878485&sr=8-1&keywords=galaxy+note+ii

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Not sure if you are aware but if you plan to keep your Verizon unlimited data plan, you will need to buy the phone unsubsidized.
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Update: LTE! There are many people commenting about this. Apparently there's a version of the international Note 2 (not the N7100) that sports LTE, the model number is N7105 and it comes with "LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100" (Sources: GSM Arena, Engadget and XDA forums). If you have a N7100 the LTE radio is simply not there. However this is not guarantee that the N7105 will work with AT&T's or Tmo's LTE, it all depends if those frequencies are compilant with those carriers' respective LTE signals. As LTE network compatibility can be a deal breaker for many people within the US, I suggest you to research very well before buying it. If someone can squeeze any info out of AT&T or Tmo, please comment. To shed more light on this issue, you can Google the xda thread 1917383.

No, you will have to wait until Verizon launches their version. The ones you see on Amazon are international versions and only works on GSM networks (ex, AT&T, TMobile)

hamsup1o said:
No, you will have to wait until Verizon launches their version. The ones you see on Amazon are international versions and only works on GSM networks (ex, AT&T, TMobile)
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I guess I have no choice. Thanks for the info.

wait for verizon version, go to best buy or wherever and get it, dont let them activate it, go to a verizon store and have them activate it and make sure they maintain your unlimited data.
also if you get it at best buy consider their $10 a month insurance as its supposed to come with no deductable and you are now buying devices out right full price....otherwise face verizons rip off insurance or having to buy a device out right again or use an upgrade and lose unlimited if you break it.
this is how i did two s3's with no problems and kept unlimited. (i have not had to use the insurance from best buy yet, so i cant speak as to how well they handle a claim).

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wait for verizon version, go to best buy or wherever and get it, dont let them activate it, go to a verizon store and have them activate it and make sure they maintain your unlimited data.
also if you get it at best buy consider their $10 a month insurance as its supposed to come with no deductable and you are now buying devices out right full price....otherwise face verizons rip off insurance or having to buy a device out right again or use an upgrade and lose unlimited if you break it.
this is how i did two s3's with no problems and kept unlimited. (i have not had to use the insurance from best buy yet, so i cant speak as to how well they handle a claim).
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Great info. Thanks. I'll do that. Now comes the wait.

faber78 said:
wait for verizon version, go to best buy or wherever and get it, dont let them activate it, go to a verizon store and have them activate it and make sure they maintain your unlimited data.
also if you get it at best buy consider their $10 a month insurance as its supposed to come with no deductable and you are now buying devices out right full price....otherwise face verizons rip off insurance or having to buy a device out right again or use an upgrade and lose unlimited if you break it.
this is how i did two s3's with no problems and kept unlimited. (i have not had to use the insurance from best buy yet, so i cant speak as to how well they handle a claim).
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I hope Best Buy has a Buy one, get one free deal !!!!!

fwhomeboy said:
I hope Best Buy has a Buy one, get one free deal !!!!!
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2 phones @ $700 a piece = $1400 (intrest free, pay off with tax return)
3g max use = 10g, now 4g = max 40g a month. (myself, not including light usage of other 2 phones on plan).
current cost for 3 smartphones unlimited data each = $205 a month.
cost a month for 3 smartphones with 10g data shared plan = $220 a month for 10g + $10 a month for extra 2g to get 40g = additional $150 = a total a month of = $370 a month to satisfy my usage.
$370 - $205 (current cost) = $165 extra a month x 24 months = $3,960 extra to get my phones subsidized over course of two year contract using the data I currently use now. The subsidized phones would save me $500 each phone = $1,000.
So $3,960 - $1000 = $2,960 more over two year contract to get subsidized phones (2 of the 3 I have on my contract, the other is still the same).
$2,960 - the cost of buying out right ($1400) = $1,560 dollars more + out pocket cost of 2 subsidized phones ($300) = $1,860 saved over the course of a two year contract.
....$1,860 or $78 a month saved by buying 2 phones out right + i keep unlimited on 3 lines, dont renew a ****ty contract, and can use as much data as i like on any line.
someone check my math....
(side note; i didnt even go in to comparing the insurance vs. verizon insurance....as far as it concerns me anymore the only thing i need verizon for is their network, i could care less what else they have to sell me).
either way even if i lost money, id rather give it to best buy then verizon

faber78 said:
2 phones @ $700 a piece = $1400 (intrest free, pay off with tax return)
3g max use = 10g, now 4g = max 40g a month. (myself, not including light usage of other 2 phones on plan).
current cost for 3 smartphones unlimited data each = $205 a month.
cost a month for 3 smartphones with 10g data shared plan = $220 a month for 10g + $10 a month for extra 2g to get 40g = additional $150 = a total a month of = $370 a month to satisfy my usage.
$370 - $205 (current cost) = $165 extra a month x 24 months = $3,960 extra to get my phones subsidized over course of two year contract using the data I currently use now. The subsidized phones would save me $500 each phone = $1,000.
So $3,960 - $1000 = $2,960 more over two year contract to get subsidized phones (2 of the 3 I have on my contract, the other is still the same).
$2,960 - the cost of buying out right ($1400) = $1,560 dollars more + out pocket cost of 2 subsidized phones ($300) = $1,860 saved over the course of a two year contract.
....$1,860 or $78 a month saved by buying 2 phones out right + i keep unlimited on 3 lines, dont renew a ****ty contract, and can use as much data as i like on any line.
someone check my math....
(side note; i didnt even go in to comparing the insurance vs. verizon insurance....as far as it concerns me anymore the only thing i need verizon for is their network, i could care less what else they have to sell me).
either way even if i lost money, id rather give it to best buy then verizon
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My unlimited contract is over in March. Will I have to renew the contract or is it a month to month thing. I gotta keep my unlimited data.

fwhomeboy said:
My unlimited contract is over in March. Will I have to renew the contract or is it a month to month thing. I gotta keep my unlimited data.
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if you buy the device out right your contract will expire and you go month to month under the same terms, the up side is you keep unlimited,, the down is you pay full price for the device. some people point out that since your contract is technically over Verizon could make changes , but that would cost them business as people would just leave since there's no early termination fee or contract.
basically if you let Verizon help you (subsidize) with the device cost, that's when you're back in contract and lose unlimited.
i chose to buy my device, let my contract expire and keep unlimited. then i don't pay for home internet to save extra money.
that's my understanding of it.
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its interesting as now i get the upgrade notifications and don't care anymore, i don't care about when this phone or that goes off contact. i don't care about their anything, not signing up for two more years, if i want I'll leave with no early termination. really with no contract i don't care what they say about anything.
when phones came out they hit you for over minutes, then roaming, then minutes were cheap and there was no roaming. that's when text were around and they hit you for texting to much. now they gave unlimited data to get people to try smart phones and once devices improved and people got hooked, capped data.
not me, I'll go back to a dumb phone if i ever actually lose unlimited data.

Good information faber78... I feel the same way. Once VZW pulls the grandfathered unlimited data I'm gone...
Just picked up a SCH-I605 from Swappa for quite a bit less than the long dollar @ full retail.
To date, I've had good luck buying "new to me" phones on both eBay and Swappa. However, I think I like Swappa thing a bit more... it seems a more straight forward and user friendly. (Didn't feel like I was shoveling through all the busted screen & bad ESN phones.) Plus, there is a link to swappa in the xda banner above.... If XDA gives it a thumbs up, it must be good.
Only thing that slowed me down was waiting for the micro SIM card. Just had to call VZW customer service they FedEx'ed me one straight away.

[Q] T-Mobile $30/mo plan for Note2?

I posted this earlier but this question probably deserves its own thread as I'm not sure yet why more people aren't considering it here for the Note2 (up front cost of unsubsidized device? - there seems to be plenty of people either buying or considering buying unlocked international models in XDA forums)?
- Someone I met at BestBuy while marveling at the Note2 for ~2hrs told me about a $30 T-Mobile plan :http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/04/t-mobile-monthly-4g-review-30-per-month-bargain (He praised Verizon local coverage but is grandfathered into their unlimited plan)?
" For $30 per month, including taxes and fees, I could get unlimited messaging and Web. The plan includes just 100 minutes of voice calls per month, but that’s plenty considering my use-case for this phone. Extra minutes cost just 10 cents each. The mobile hotspot feature is a $15 add-on."
Anyone using this $30/mo T-Mobile plan with their Note2? Any issues besides buying an unsubsidized device to use it?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
" Get talk, text and high-speed web on any capable T-Mobile phone.
It’s a better way to do prepaid. Compare Monthly4G plans.
$50/mo
Unlimited Talk Text & Web
$30/mo
Unlimited Web & Text with 100 Minutes Talk
Great for video chat, streaming
music/movies/TV, playing
online games, and more."
Also found the following related thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892968&page=2 ( T-Mobile 30 dollar plan for gs3???) - Babydoll25 mentions no Wi-Fi calling but I think I can live without it & use Skype or other alternatives if needed

I am on the $30 a month 100 minutes talk 5GB 4G plan from Walmart, which is the same plan as the one on that link, with the Note II and no issues here. Obviously I had to pay a huge unsubsidized chunk of change for the device itself but I'm glad to only be paying $30 a month for everything.
I almost never go over the 100 minutes and I do keep an extra $10 on the account just in case I do go over and run into the 10 cents a minute after the 100 minutes are up but I've only had to dip into that a little bit once.
BTW the 'unlimited' data you will find in the fine print is the first 5GB is 4G, then thereafter you get throttled to slower speeds, but I still find 5GB is plenty enough for me.
Also, you can do wifi calling if you use a different app like Google Voice + GrooveIP. IIRC you do have to root also to keep it from deducting from your minutes though. I did it on my old phone but I haven't messed with it on the Note II yet because like I mentioned I just really don't talk that much.
Hotspot you can also do either with root and some finagling or if you don't mind a cord you can do cabled usb tether.

Sorry to disappoint you buddy, but a lot of people here including myself is been using this plan for a long time now. I've been using it myself for almost a year and half, so far I have used this plan with the galaxy s 2, Galaxy Note AT&T, Galaxy note T Mobile, and now Galaxy Note 2 T Mobile. It's a great plan for people that doesn't talk much on the phone hahahahaha.
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We all have been using this plan for awhile lol.
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_Motoki_ said:
I am on the $30 a month 100 minutes talk 5GB 4G plan from Walmart, which is the same plan as the one on that link, with the Note II and no issues here. Obviously I had to pay a huge unsubsidized chunk of change for the device itself but I'm glad to only be paying $30 a month for everything.
I almost never go over the 100 minutes and I do keep an extra $10 on the account just in case I do go over and run into the 10 cents a minute after the 100 minutes are up but I've only had to dip into that a little bit once.
BTW the 'unlimited' data you will find in the fine print is the first 5GB is 4G, then thereafter you get throttled to slower speeds, but I still find 5GB is plenty enough for me.
Also, you can do wifi calling if you use a different app like Google Voice + GrooveIP. IIRC you do have to root also to keep it from deducting from your minutes though. I did it on my old phone but I haven't messed with it on the Note II yet because like I mentioned I just really don't talk that much.
Hotspot you can also do either with root and some finagling or if you don't mind a cord you can do cabled usb tether.
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Thanks _Motoki_ are you rooted or will you root the Note2?
For those who would rather not pay the full unsubsidized price upfront, couldn't they buy the Note2 for that T-Mobile in store price of $250 +$20/mo for 20 mo interest free (total $650 over ~20 months) with the no contract $49.99/mo plan (500 Whenever Minutes + unlimited data or $59.99/mo for no throttling if needed) & then just do this $30/mo plan thereafter if their use case supports it (or would the store let you immediately do it on that $250 +$20/mo for 20 mo interest free price)?
T-Mobile seems to offer more plan flexibility than the other carriers but they certainly did not mention any $30/mo plan to me when I was in their store..is it really only $30/mo total including taxes & fees?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks _Motoki_ are you rooted or will you root the Note2?
For those who would rather not pay the full unsubsidized price upfront, couldn't they buy the Note2 for that T-Mobile in store price of $250 +$20/mo for 20 mo interest free (total $650 over ~20 months) with the no contract $49.99/mo plan (500 Whenever Minutes + unlimited data or $59.99/mo for no throttling if needed) & then just do this $30/mo plan thereafter if their use case supports it (or would the store let you immediately do it on that $250 +$20/mo for 20 mo interest free price)?
T-Mobile seems to offer more plan flexibility than the other carriers but they certainly did not mention any $30/mo plan to me when I was in their store..is it really only $30/mo total including taxes & fees?
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The $250 down with $20/mo times 20 months=$650 for phone is only available thru the value plan which requires a 2 year contract. So you are locked into a contract and pay full price for the phone.
The $30 4g monthly plan unl data, text, and 100 min is a prepaid plan requiring no contract. You bring your own phone- any gsm will do. Better if it works on tmo 3g.
An there are no taxes or fees. If you buy thru calling mart, with the right discounts which are sent to you via email if you are on their customer list- you can get refils for $28.50/month!
Also this plan is only available online or thru walmart stores. T-mobile stores will not offer it to you. Strictly do it yourself online.

xpprofessional1 said:
Sorry to disappoint you buddy, but a lot of people here including myself is been using this plan for a long time now. I've been using it myself for almost a year and half, so far I have used this plan with the galaxy s 2, Galaxy Note AT&T, Galaxy note T Mobile, and now Galaxy Note 2 T Mobile. It's a great plan for people that doesn't talk much on the phone hahahahaha.
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Why would I be disappointed?:victory: Don't you think more people would consider trying the Note 2 on T-Mobile if they knew this plan was available for the Note2?
If the coverage isn't acceptable, the Note 2 could still be returned for a full refund within 14 days right with no activation fee right?
Sounds like a low risk way to try T-Mobile..
Also can't users just move up to other T-Mobile off contract plans if this $30/mo total plan doesn't best support their use case?:good:

No sim fees, no activation fees? All you have to do is pay the first month?
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sashusmom said:
The $250 down with $20/mo times 20 months=$650 for phone is only available thru the value plan which requires a 2 year contract. So you are locked into a contract and pay full price for the phone.
The $30 4g monthly plan unl data, text, and 100 min is a prepaid plan requiring no contract. You bring your own phone- any gsm will do. Better if it works on tmo 3g.
An there are no taxes or fees. If you buy thru calling mart, with the right discounts which are sent to you via email if you are on their customer list- you can get refils for $28.50/month!
Also this plan is only available online or thru walmart stores. T-mobile stores will not offer it to you. Strictly do it yourself online.
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Thanks Ok she didn't mention that price required a 2 year contract (& was within a broader conversation of plans available outside of contracts).. well I guess if someone is unsure of how the Note2 on T-Mobile would work for them, they can could still get it for the above deal to test out for 14 days & return it for full refund to get out of that contract & then buy it online for full $650+tax if satisfied right?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans (not just Walmart it seems but $30/mo or $28.50/month for email discount refills is impressively less than I'm currently paying for my inferior EVO non-existent "4G"service on Sprint compounded by their slow 3G)..
Users can still easily go to other T-Mobile off contract plans if this $30/mo total plan doesn't best support their use case in following months right?
I don't think I want to deal with contracts if there is a better option for my use case..

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks Ok she didn't mention that price required a 2 year contract (& was within a broader conversation of plans available outside of contracts).. well I guess if someone is unsure of how the Note2 on T-Mobile would work for them, they can could still get it for the above deal to test out for 14 days & return it for full refund to get out of that contract & then buy it online for full $650+tax if satisfied right?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans (not just Walmart it seems but $30/mo or $28.50/month for email discount refills is impressively less than I'm currently paying for my inferior EVO non-existent "4G"service on Sprint compounded by their slow 3G)..
Users can still easily go to other T-Mobile off contract plans if this $30/mo total plan doesn't best support their use case in following months right?
I don't think I want to deal with contracts if there is a better option for my use case..
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Of course. It's a no-contract prepaid plan. Nothing keeping you from doing whatever you want. You could buy a Straight Talk sim and switch off between that and T-Mobile's $30 plan every month if you want.
BTW I'm on the $30 plan, bought the phone in store for $650. Best choice for me by far. The cost savings over 2 years will make the initial high price pay for itself several times over.
Also, don't completely discount T-Mobile stores. Some of them are greedy but mine had no problems activating the $30 plan. They even gave me the sim for free and had no problem adding insurance ($7) for me. My total in store was $649.99 + $30 + $7 + tax. Everything was set up in under 5 minutes. Maybe I just got lucky!

LucJoe said:
Of course. It's a no-contract prepaid plan. Nothing keeping you from doing whatever you want. You could buy a Straight Talk sim and switch off between that and T-Mobile's $30 plan every month if you want.
BTW I'm on the $30 plan, bought the phone in store for $650. Best choice for me by far. The cost savings over 2 years will make the initial high price pay for itself several times over.
Also, don't completely discount T-Mobile stores. Some of them are greedy but mine had no problems activating the $30 plan. They even gave me the sim for free and had no problem adding insurance ($7) for me. My total in store was $649.99 + $30 + $7 + tax. Everything was set up in under 5 minutes. Maybe I just got lucky!
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Wow that's fast thanks, just wanted to make sure there are no complications-fine print (the T-Mobile store didn't mention the $250+$20/mo for 20 months would involve contracts & seemed to rather laud that it was an interest free way to buy the Note2 unsubsidized in these days of low interest rates)
Do you think it would be best to call some local T-mobile stores to see if they'll do it before showing up or will they be more likely to do it impulsively (there is at least one T-Mobile close to a frequented shopping center locally here)?
I actually noticed the $7/mo insurance including theft, loss, accidental damage etc..anything we should be aware of besides the below (people have had good experiences with it?):
Thnx
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-additional-services#Monthly4GHandsetProtection
http://www.t-mobile.com/Company/pdf/WP24276B_T-Mobile_NY_6.11.12.pdf
"Handset Protection* you won’t
miss a beat if your device is:
• Lost
• Stolen
• Accidentally damaged
(including water damage)
• Malfunctioning due to mechanical
or electrical failure**
Live Your Life With Confidence.
Enroll Today!
You can enroll in Monthly4G Handset Protection within
14 days of purchasing your T-Mobile®
phone with
an accompanying Monthly4G rate plan.
***
Handset
Protection is optional and is not required to purchase
the device or obtain T-Mobile wireless services.
* Benefits may also be purchased separately through an insurance
program that offers coverage in the event of accidental damage,
loss, or theft and is underwritten by American Security Insurance
Company for a monthly charge of $6; or through an extended
service contract that offers coverage against mechanical breakdown
for a monthly charge of $2. To enroll in the separate insurance or
extended service contract programs, please call 1-866-778-1044.
**Excludes mechanical or electrical breakdown covered by the
manufacturer’s warranty.
***Monthly4G Handset Protection is not available on the iPhone®
;
not all devices sold by T-Mobile are eligible for Monthly4G
Handset Protection Coverage.
More fine print:
http://wac.04c7.edgecastcdn.net/000...s/pdf/WP24276B_T-Mobile_All_States_online.pdf

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks _Motoki_ are you rooted or will you root the Note2?
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I'm not rooted on the Note II. I don't want to risk messing anything up for the LTE software update T-Mobile should hopefully push, eventually.
I was rooted on my last phone which was just a cheap Samsung Exhibit II that bought when I switched over from Virgin until I could get something better.
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For what it's worth, I am running Solavei($49 unlimited everything including 4G) vs the $30 plan from T-Mobile (although I have the t-mobile sim, just in case). I am loving the coverage... and I am even more impressed with the download speeds. Attached a pic to show how good it is. (the 11mb speed is sitting in a dave and busters in columbia, MD, the slow 600k speed is sitting in the back corner of a pizza joint in columbia for lunch, with edge connectivity).
If you ask me, it's a better deal than the $30 plan.

mdt73 said:
For what it's worth, I am running Solavei($49 unlimited everything including 4G) vs the $30 plan from T-Mobile (although I have the t-mobile sim, just in case). I am loving the coverage... and I am even more impressed with the download speeds. Attached a pic to show how good it is. (the 11mb speed is sitting in a dave and busters in columbia, MD, the slow 600k speed is sitting in the back corner of a pizza joint in columbia for lunch, with edge connectivity).
If you ask me, it's a better deal than the $30 plan.
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It depends on your individual needs. I don't use much more than 100 min and if I need more, I have a little extra balance and just pay 10 cents per minute. 5gb of 4g data is good for me, then it switches to unl. at edge speeds. $20 savings for 12 months is $360- half the cost of the phone off contract! A much better deal for me than Solavei's $50/month

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Wow that's fast thanks, just wanted to make sure there are no complications-fine print (the T-Mobile store didn't mention the $250+$20/mo for 20 months would involve contracts & seemed to rather laud that it was an interest free way to buy the Note2 unsubsidized in these days of low interest rates)
Do you think it would be best to call some local T-mobile stores to see if they'll do it before showing up or will they be more likely to do it impulsively (there is at least one T-Mobile close to a frequented shopping center locally here)?
I actually noticed the $7/mo insurance including theft, loss, accidental damage etc..anything we should be aware of besides the below (people have had good experiences with it?):
Thnx
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-additional-services#Monthly4GHandsetProtection
http://www.t-mobile.com/Company/pdf/WP24276B_T-Mobile_NY_6.11.12.pdf
"Handset Protection* you won’t
miss a beat if your device is:
• Lost
• Stolen
• Accidentally damaged
(including water damage)
• Malfunctioning due to mechanical
or electrical failure**
Live Your Life With Confidence.
Enroll Today!
You can enroll in Monthly4G Handset Protection within
14 days of purchasing your T-Mobile®
phone with
an accompanying Monthly4G rate plan.
***
Handset
Protection is optional and is not required to purchase
the device or obtain T-Mobile wireless services.
* Benefits may also be purchased separately through an insurance
program that offers coverage in the event of accidental damage,
loss, or theft and is underwritten by American Security Insurance
Company for a monthly charge of $6; or through an extended
service contract that offers coverage against mechanical breakdown
for a monthly charge of $2. To enroll in the separate insurance or
extended service contract programs, please call 1-866-778-1044.
**Excludes mechanical or electrical breakdown covered by the
manufacturer’s warranty.
***Monthly4G Handset Protection is not available on the iPhone®
;
not all devices sold by T-Mobile are eligible for Monthly4G
Handset Protection Coverage.
More fine print:
http://wac.04c7.edgecastcdn.net/000...s/pdf/WP24276B_T-Mobile_All_States_online.pdf
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I just got done making a Loss claim with them about 2 weeks ago and they were VERY quick and the deductible was $130 and they shipped me a BRAND NEW Note 2 in it's original box w/all accessories included... Not too shabby.... Although seeing as the Note 2 just came out they def do not have any refurbs yet... I am sooooo glad I had it on my account cause I just paid almost $700 w/tax for the phone and I would much rather pay $130 rather then lose a brand new $700 phone! I woulda **** myself if I lost it with no recourse...
BTW: Their Monthly4g prepaid plans are through a different provider (insurance company) than their contract plans and I have heard of people having hassles with the other company but not through Assurance...

I use ensquared for my insurance. $58 a year. $75 deductible. 2 phones can be replaced. Covers loss, theft, accidents and the normal coverage. Hard to beat.
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sashusmom said:
It depends on your individual needs. I don't use much more than 100 min and if I need more, I have a little extra balance and just pay 10 cents per minute. 5gb of 4g data is good for me, then it switches to unl. at edge speeds. $20 savings for 12 months is $360- half the cost of the phone off contract! A much better deal for me than Solavei's $50/month
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Recheck your math. Also, do you have a house phone?
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Wish I signed up that $30 plan before signed my contract.
Is there a way to sign up for 2nd line under the $30 dollar plan and port my number to that 2nd line then cancel the 1st line?
I want to keep my same number.

mdt73 said:
I use ensquared for my insurance. $58 a year. $75 deductible. 2 phones can be replaced. Covers loss, theft, accidents and the normal coverage. Hard to beat.
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Sounds like an interesting alternative but I'd have to read that fine print:
http://www.ensquared.com/catalog/phone-insurance/1-year-phone-insurance-smartphone
http://www.ensquared.com/1_Year_Phone_Insurance_Terms.htm
http://www.ensquared.com/catalog/phone-insurance/2-year-phone-insurance-smartphone
http://www.ensquared.com/2_Year_Phone_Insurance_Terms.htm

I picked up A Note II Saturday off CL for a decent price. White too...all the stores had were the grey ones. I had preordered a sim activation kit from T-Mobile http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit for .99 cents and then did the activation online when I got the phone. Smooth as silk and I am getting surprisingly good data speeds. 8-16MB
Cheers

shojus said:
I just got done making a Loss claim with them about 2 weeks ago and they were VERY quick and the deductible was $130 and they shipped me a BRAND NEW Note 2 in it's original box w/all accessories included... Not too shabby.... Although seeing as the Note 2 just came out they def do not have any refurbs yet... I am sooooo glad I had it on my account cause I just paid almost $700 w/tax for the phone and I would much rather pay $130 rather then lose a brand new $700 phone! I woulda **** myself if I lost it with no recourse...
BTW: Their Monthly4g prepaid plans are through a different provider (insurance company) than their contract plans and I have heard of people having hassles with the other company but not through Assurance...
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Verizon S3 32gb in white w/unlimited LTE
T-mobile Note 2 16gb in Titanium
Apple iPad 3rd gen 64gb white w/Verizon LTE (For my 3 year old lil girl....)
Coming SOON: Nexus 4 16gb
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Good to read, so the deductible shouldn't be more than $130? I might not be as happy about getting a refurb in the future however. If it didn't cover theft, loss, accidental damage I wouldn't bother considering it but at $7/mo over T-Mobile competitive plans sounds like a more reasonable consideration to take some of the sting out of some unfortunate event.
I'm still somewhat debating the $30/mo prepaid for the Note2 which you point out uses a different insurer or some of their reasonable contract plans. I'm also considering a Nexus 4 as a second device which I'd likely do on this $30/mo prepaid plan likely without insurance considering its lower unit cost, are you planning on getting insurance for your Nexus 4?
Could you comment on your experiences with T-Mobile Vs your Verizon service? Thnx

AT&T Grandfathered Unlimited Data vs. T-Mobile Unlimited 4G LTE?

Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.

1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
No. If you have Unlimited Nationwide 4G you will never be throttled.
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
Both.
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
That's up to you.
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Not a chance, this is their main selling point.

CZ Eddie said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
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1) With the unlimited nationwide 4g data plan, there is no throttling and its unlimited 4G data.
2) Yes it does apply to LTE but you need a LTE enabled device.
3)If you think that the 5 dollar difference is worth it. But in all reality its unlimited everything with no data caps when you get the 70 dollar plan, plus LTE is coming to your area soon so i'd go for it.
4)I highly doubt they would do something like that as they are trying to get ahead of Sprint, At&t, Verizon with the simple choice uncarrier plans.
lol someone answered while i was typing...oops.

Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.

CZ Eddie said:
Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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Keep in mind - with AT&T you gotta contract for that $199 phone. Whereas with TMobile, you don't have a contract..

CZ Eddie said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
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1) hell no
2) full LTE
3) hell no
4) hell no

coyttl said:
Keep in mind - with AT&T you gotta contract for that $199 phone. Whereas with TMobile, you don't have a contract..
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Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
Sounds nice I guess.
I wish T-Mobile website had a "chat" capability so I can talk to a salesperson. But they removed that feature.

CZ Eddie said:
Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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you dont have to pay $20 a month for 24 months if you pay the $149, and then make a $300 payment after you account is created. you'll only pay $20 a month for 9 months after.
this is what i did.
f*** ATT bro.
f*** em'
make the jump.
i was with ATT mobile for ~15 years and couldn't be happier ive left those f**ks
f*****g bit*es

CZ Eddie said:
Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
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I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.

Regarding 2) Faux 4G/LTE:
I know quite a lot of ppl have issue with this as a matter of topic. But to be honest the "faux" 4G / LTE is pretty darn fast. It's HSPDA+ which at its worst runs at 4meg down and 1 meg up. I know plenty of ppl in Nyc that don't get that on their cable modems reliably. Also it's pretty challenging to really push the need for more unless you are downloading a rom.
I think it's a lot of media hype that ppl "need" 20 meg down and 10 meg up... It's like advertising a car that can do a 200+ mph top speed. Is it nice to have? Sure it is... Do you often have the opportunity to show it off I real life or day to day use? Not really... 100mph is plenty fast lol
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coyttl said:
I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
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Awesome idea except that when you get a subsidized priced phone from att you are committing to 2 more years under contract with them...
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CZ Eddie said:
Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
Sounds nice I guess.
I wish T-Mobile website had a "chat" capability so I can talk to a salesperson. But they removed that feature.
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No, the phone is not a contract. It's just T-Mobile financing the phone to you. Just like buying a car, you put so much down and you pay it off when you pay it off, but your MINIMUM monthly payment is 20 bucks.
If you put the down payment, then 200 down the first month, and another 200 down the next month, and another 80 or so down the third month then cancel your service you now own the phone completely and T-Mobile will give you an unlock code and be like "Alright bro, thanks for the business, hope you come back yo." No early termination fees, no nothing.
However, if you cancel your service while you still owe money on the phone, you still owe money on the phone. You either pay it off at a rate of at minimum 20 per month OR you don't and they sell the finance to a collection agency.
It's just simple financing rather than being put into actual contracts like the big guys.
coyttl said:
I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
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...except the ETF for ATT is 325 dollars... plus tax... plus tax when you buy the phone for 199... So you're looking at 525 plus tax for a phone you can MAYBE sell for 600. Not to mention whatever the rediculous cost of the first month plus activation fees, plus hidden charges, plus whatever the **** ATT feels like adding to your first (only in this case) bill.
Plus I'm sure ATT has somewhere in fine print you will have to pay more if you try some stupid **** like this.
Great idea, you should try it and end up paying probably around 150 bucks for the lesson.

TeknoGodz said:
You either pay it off completely you don't and they sell the finance to a collection agency.
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FTFY. If you end service before the end of the phone payment term, you owe the balance of the phone there. If it's $20, you pay $20, if it's $200, you pay $200.

k0nane said:
FTFY. If you end service before the end of the phone payment term, you owe the balance of the phone there. If it's $20, you pay $20, if it's $200, you pay $200.
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Oh really, I thought you could still pay it monthly... Well that kinda sucks.

TeknoGodz said:
Oh really, I thought you could still pay it monthly... Well that kinda sucks.
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No I'm pretty sure you can still pay it off monthly even after you cancel the service according to one of the corporate T-Mobile agents I spoke to.
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No I'm pretty sure you can still pay it off monthly even after you cancel the service according to one of the corporate T-Mobile agents I spoke to.
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Then again I would NOT trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They no nothing. I asked 3 different people and they told me I could not use the 100 dollar cards that you can buy at walmart or target for my simple choice plan. They told me there was no way and there are no prepaid cards that allow you to do this. The next day I was at target and saw the card.... It clearly states "For use with prepaid or monthly plans". Bought it and used it no issues.
Haven't believed a word from their mouth since.

TeknoGodz said:
Then again I would NOT trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They no nothing. I asked 3 different people and they told me I could not use the 100 dollar cards that you can buy at walmart or target for my simple choice plan. They told me there was no way and there are no prepaid cards that allow you to do this. The next day I was at target and saw the card.... It clearly states "For use with prepaid or monthly plans". Bought it and used it no issues.
Haven't believed a word from their mouth since.
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That's bad luck lol. Usually the people I talk to are usually right but I do customer service over chat.
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Yeah, it's really clever marketing by T-Mobile, this whole "un-carrier" thing. You end up paying $20/month for the privilege of not having a contract. I don't know about most of you, but I don't switch carriers THAT often. And even so, if your termination fee is pro-rated, then why not let the carrier eat the subsidy for as long as you were a customer? You're going to have service for a period of time anyway, you might as well get device subsidy credit for it. With T-Mobile you get nada. Assuming you're a T-Mobile customer for 2 years, you just paid full price for the phone AND $70/month for service. It's really genius and AT&T has to be pissed they didn't think of it first those livered lilly money grubers!
I have the AT&T Unlimited Data plan, but at 5gb and then throttled, they can s!#k it.

kevroc said:
Yeah, it's really clever marketing by T-Mobile, this whole "un-carrier" thing. You end up paying $20/month for the privilege of not having a contract. I don't know about most of you, but I don't switch carriers THAT often. And even so, if your termination fee is pro-rated, then why not let the carrier eat the subsidy for as long as you were a customer? You're going to have service for a period of time anyway, you might as well get device subsidy credit for it. With T-Mobile you get nada. Assuming you're a T-Mobile customer for 2 years, you just paid full price for the phone AND $70/month for service. It's really genius and AT&T has to be pissed they didn't think of it first those livered lilly money grubers!
I have the AT&T Unlimited Data plan, but at 5gb and then throttled, they can s!#k it.
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From each carrier's website, new contract, two lines, assuming purchase of two S4s:
Sprint: $249.99 per phone ($149.99 if transferring your number), $149.99 per month for 1500 shared minutes and unlimited text/data ($209 per month for unlimited everything)
AT&T: $199.99 per phone, $149.99 per month for 550 shared minutes, unlimited text, 3 GB data per phone (more per month for more minutes, 209.99 if you want unlimited; $20 extra per phone to upgrade to 5 GB, their max allowed)
Verizon: $199.99 per phone, $149.99 per month for unlimited talk/text and 4 GB of shared data ($160 for 6 GB, up to $190 for 12 GB)
T-Mobile: $149.99 per phone up front, $140 (includes phone payment) for unlimited talk/text and 2.5 GB of data per phone, $160 for unlimited data instead
*That* is the point of T-Mobile's plans, the no-contract thing is merely a nice convenience. Even including the phone cost it's $10/month cheaper than the other carriers for their cheapest useful plans (assuming you want more than a few hundred megs of data each month) and just $10 more per month than the fairly limited plans Verizon and AT&T offer at that price level gets you full unlimited.