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bite the bullet on tmobile

i am thinking about getting the touch pro2 but i am thinking how i could do this without data
so if i sign up for the phone and get the data and then 10 days later say the phone got stolen and put the sim card in a old motorola razr and tell them is this my replacement will that work? or are they going to still make pay for data service
i had att in the past and i was able to do that with them i don't know how understanding or lenient the tm csr's are.

if you tell them that it was stolen then they will block your imei. just call them and say you dont want the data plan. or get it for a short amount of time. then say that you have a different phone

Well you can buy the phone outright without a data plan but that could get expensive. I would just get it and then cancel the data plan later.

I went with Tmobile: 39.99 for 300 min + myfaves, 24.99 unlimited net + 400 msgs = I'm using Google Voice with this thing which brings me to unlimited mins/msgs if I ever go over. The internet plan is totally worth it. And it is the cheapest one out there.

radek_mazur said:
I went with Tmobile: 39.99 for 300 min + myfaves, 24.99 unlimited net + 400 msgs = I'm using Google Voice with this thing which brings me to unlimited mins/msgs if I ever go over. The internet plan is totally worth it. And it is the cheapest one out there.
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I thought the 24.99 plan no longer included msgs, was that grandfathered?

There is a unlimited msg + data for 34.99 together I know that but I never heard of the 24.99 internet coming with 400 messages. I guess it wouldn't matter for me because I use more then 400 messages a month.

there used to be a plan with messages but it was removed so u only have it if grandfathered in.

jim_0068 said:
there used to be a plan with messages but it was removed so u only have it if grandfathered in.
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correct
they stopped that plan about 3 months ago
and to the OP, in regards of taking off the data plan later on, you cant do it. its a requirement in purchasing the phone and cannot be removed without an early termination fee. T-mobile can see what phone you are using, when was the last day you used it, and your IMEI, so reporting it stolen will not do you much good

??? you are getting an internet phone that costs $350 w/ a 2 year contract and can't afford $25 extra per month??? WHY bother? and please don't say to use the wifi, you can get a netbook for less and no contract. keep your razr.

25 dollars a month totals up to 1100 over the two year contract. MUCH more than the cost of the phone unlocked. And remember, some people DO have wifi most of the places that find themselves throughout their normal days. This means that should they happen to need 3G or EDGE or whatever cell connection is available to them, it behooves them more to pay the small fees for a momentary use than the monthly twenty-five dollars. Other people find themselves using internet wherever and whenever, thereby benefitting more from a data plan. But it's for different users and different routines/lifes. It is idiotic to judge someone just because they don't want to be forced into a data plan. Heck, there was an article in wmpowerusers or wmexperts from a guy who HAD a data plan, but HATED the fact that he was now obligated to get one. One of the points is why can't a user decide what is best for him or her? Why must they pay for things they might rarely or never use based on their personal habits? And if you HAVE to have that kind of plan, then why is the phone going for so much subsidized?
And as has been stated many times, the phone isn't just about internet, it will not magically stop working if you don't have internet access. It has MANY functions and I personally want it for the whole kitten caboodle (with the exception of 3G as it is currently not an option for me), not for just one function.

rbw411 said:
??? you are getting an internet phone that costs $350 w/ a 2 year contract and can't afford $25 extra per month??? WHY bother? and please don't say to use the wifi, you can get a netbook for less and no contract. keep your razr.
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Ah yes, the voice of reason. Why would anyone not want a netbook that weighs ~2lbs, is approx 3-5x the size of the TP2, does not necessarily come with a touchscreen, for which they don't make a belt clip, but still has a resolution that isn't much better than a TP2, with even lower battery life (unless you separately order a nine cell battery that weighs almost as much as the netbook itself) and only slightly more portability than a regular laptop? I mean that's a perfectly reasonable TP2 alternative.
Does anyone actually remember when we used PDAs? Smartphones are not just internet phones. For those who use the internet on it, do you really need 24/7 uninterrupted access? If you do, can you even begin to imagine another consumer who might not have your exact needs/usage pattern, or for whom that kind of connectivity isn't worth an extra $300 a year (you can get the TMo version for ~$500 no commitment, meaning 2yr price only saves you $150 and extra data costs you an extra $600)? Can you imagine a consumer with more offline needs than online, one who is only out out of wifi range for minutes a day, and during those minutes, doesn't really care about data access?
Do what you need to do for yourself, but keep your self-righteous lectures to yourself when you don't have a fraking clue what you're talking about. Not everyone is exactly like you.

have you considered waiting til 9/3 for the release on sprint? much cheaper data plan, and im pretty sure the cdma phone has an audio jack, nice little bonus

letstalk.com
needless to say that you can get it for 199.99 with letstalk.com. and still have to have the same data plan as if you went with tmob directly.
so you save yourself the extra 150. which in 6months equals that same 150 for internet usage during your first 6months that is required to have until your obligation is over to have so you wont be penalized under letstalk.con restrictions. so you break out even. with the difference that you get the 6months of internet plan totaling the same if you paid their 350 price.
but i am hoping att will get it. waiting to see. in the meantime i will play with my new (older) BA and hopefuly the exec
by the time my contract is over and if att gets it i will stick with them for the reason of granfathered plans.

you could just buy it off craigslist for $350-$450, depending on your local market. no data required

Or you could just buy the phone at full price $550 which doesn't require Data.

i'm glad i got grandfathered in on my old 19.99 unlimited internet plan but alas no free mobile to mobile with my old myfaves plan

Newegg.com has the TMO TP2 for $199 w/ new 2 yr contract and does not appear to be requiring a data plan with the purchase.
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There is another solution, but only if you have a family plan.
1.) Buy the phone using promo code "Windows Mobile" through T-Mobile (found HERE)
2.) Add an additional line and get the TP2 for the discounted price
3.) Add the data plan to keep T-Mobile's panties unknotted
4.) Keep the phone for 3 weeks
5.) Call back after day 21 and tell them you do not want the line anymore.
6.) Pay the early termination fee ($200).
7.) Keep the TP2.
The phone itself normally costs $349.99 with a 2 year contract. With the promo code, you get it for $149.99 + $200 term fee = $349.99. Of course, the additional data plan will be prorated for those 21 days of "usage" which comes out to be around $17, but in the end you still have the phone and you can dump any T-Mobile SIM right in.
This is the BEST solution if you are one of the fortunate few who still have the T-zones service... which WILL do 3G! I've tested it on my friend's SIM card who still has T-Zones. I just hope he doesn't get any extra charges lol.

Verizons possible new charge

Verizon Wireless’s Monthly Line Access Charge (MLAC). What is a MLAC? It’s a user fee for the privilege of using their network. Of all the pieces of the Share Everything puzzle, the MLAC is the part that really rubs me the wrong way. If the fee itself isn’t bad enough, the egregious amount they are charging, forty dollars per smartphone, is quite frankly, obnoxious. Because smartphone users will be the biggest piece of the data pie, Verizon Wireless believes they can rake those users over the coals. Once again, this fee is obnoxious. It really does shock me that Verizon would impose such egregious fee on their customers – it’s a real slap in the face to long time loyal customers.....saw this on rootz I just copy and pasted the last paragragh...will something like this let us get out of our contract assuming it happens?

Its not even a "possible", it is a "will be" when the shared data plans come into effect.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...g-proposal-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-r881
Original article if anyone cares.
No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.

Wait, so all of a sudden if you're on this share everything plan, you get smacked with an additional $40? Good thing none of us are on it and will not be on it.

I Am Marino said:
Wait, so all of a sudden if you're on this share everything plan, you get smacked with an additional $40? Good thing none of us are on it and will not be on it.
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40 dollars per smartphone, 30 per feature phone. The 50+ on top of that is the actuall plan.
So...if you were on a shared plan with one smartphone and nothing else (why the hell would you do this), you would pay 90 bucks a month plus taxes and surcharges for unlimited voice, text, and 1gb of data. If on a feature phone, it would be 80 a month. It goes up from there.
Edit: Oh and the employee discounts? Only apply to the plan and not the device fees.

That shared plan is for the birds...keeping my unlimited data plan. Who still talks that much on phones these days anyway to need unlimited voice.

No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.
OK so until we end our existing contract not much is gonna change then?I got in past the unlimited data so not to worried bout that right now....guess I should have posted the hole article sorry for any confusion guys..

evolving said:
No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.
OK so until we end our existing contract not much is gonna change then?I got in past the unlimited data so not to worried bout that right now....guess I should have posted the hole article sorry for any confusion guys..
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Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.

Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.
OK thanks for the clarification, I was assuming that anyways but was thinking they may try to force it on us whenever they felt like it.I looked it up and the shared plan takes my bill to 220 or 240 with 10 gb shared..they are gonna make us go broke or go back to ****ter phones.

evolving said:
Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.
OK thanks for the clarification, I was assuming that anyways but was thinking they may try to force it on us whenever they felt like it.I looked it up and the shared plan takes my bill to 220 or 240 with 10 gb shared..they are gonna make us go broke or go back to ****ter phones.
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Indeed. There are only a few circumstances I see this being advantageous. I am definitely not one those circumstances.

Definitely gone from Verizon once my contract is up.
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That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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Smokeey said:
That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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That's not what we are talking about,yours is 9.99 for add a line.what we are talking about has not started yet

nothing to see here, move along
1) There is NOTHING to indicate that verizon will end or take away anyone's current unlimited data plan, if you want to continue with it, even beyond when your contract expires. Keep your current phone, keep your current contract, unlimited, forever. (or until they make further changes). Same phone, some contract, no change.
2) Want to keep your unlimited plan, AND get a new phone? Go ahead, buy a new phone, keep your unlimited plan. Forever. You just have to pay full price for that new phone.
So the only REAL change coming for current, unlimited data subscribers is they won't be able to keep their current plan AND get a new subsidized phone. They are not taking away your unlimited data plans, they are taking away subsidized future phones.
REMEMBER Verizon hasn't sold new unlimited data subscriptions for a year or so now, so for most new customers unlimited data isn't an issue.
Moving forward ......
3) For NEW customers, or old customers that don't have unlimited data, the new plans look like they will save a bunch of money for (a) families and (b) users with tablets. The new plan for a smartphone + tablet will likely be cheaper than a current smartphone plan PLUS a separate tablet data plan, and, the new plans will likely be much more convenient, you won't have to worry OK, I'm at 4.7 gigs on the tablet this month, better start using the 5 gb smartphone data allowance ...
4) Verizon is expensive. Yep. We got all kinds of threads touting the unlimited Straight Talk plans, or the $30 Tmo plan. LOTS of reasons knowledgeable folks are going for the prepaid plans these days, IF you're looking to get a new, cheap plan.
5) IF you have an unlimited plan, AND you use close to or more than 5gb of data, verizon today is the best deal going, and will continue to be the best deal going. I regularly get 20 MBS 4g lte on unlimited verizon. My neighbors unlimited DSL is 6 mbs. I don't have to pay for home internet ....
I'm not seeing any reason for current unlimited users to panic, for new users the new plans are an improvement over current family and multi line plans, and there are plenty of prepaid cheaper options, have been for months now, the new verizon plans don't make the prepaid look any MORE attractive.
EXAMPLE - Galaxy Nexus + xoom lte tablet
CURRENT
Tablet 3GB plan, $35
Smartphone - unlimited talk and txt = $90
Smartphone Unlimited data = $30
Smartphone Hotspot = $30
TOTAL = $185
NEW PLAN, 10 GB
unlimited 10 GB = $100
smartphone +$40
tablet +10
TOTAL = $150
SO which plan is better? 10 GB is a lot of use a month .... and a lot more for the tablet to use if the phone hotspot isn't around.
For some folks, the unlimited IS worth the extra $35 per month, no doubt, but, for many users, looks to me like the new plan might be better ....
SO, if you have no unlimited home internet, and need to make sure you can download the 40GB MOP expansion pack for World of Warcraft when it comes out, or, have no unlimited home internet to DL HD video with every night, by all means, keep your current unlimited verizon wirless plans.
At 20 mbs dl, popping over 30 mbs in the wee hours when downloading HD video, I'll likely keep my unlimited plan for many many more months.
HAVE FUN!

noneone said:
nothing to see here, move along
1) There is NOTHING to indicate that verizon will end or take away anyone's current unlimited data plan, if you want to continue with it, even beyond when your contract expires. Keep your current phone, keep your current contract, unlimited, forever. (or until they make further changes). Same phone, some contract, no change.
2) Want to keep your unlimited plan, AND get a new phone? Go ahead, buy a new phone, keep your unlimited plan. Forever. You just have to pay full price for that new phone.
So the only REAL change coming for current, unlimited data subscribers is they won't be able to keep their current plan AND get a new subsidized phone. They are not taking away your unlimited data plans, they are taking away subsidized future phones.
REMEMBER Verizon hasn't sold new unlimited data subscriptions for a year or so now, so for most new customers unlimited data isn't an issue.
Moving forward ......
3) For NEW customers, or old customers that don't have unlimited data, the new plans look like they will save a bunch of money for (a) families and (b) users with tablets. The new plan for a smartphone + tablet will likely be cheaper than a current smartphone plan PLUS a separate tablet data plan, and, the new plans will likely be much more convenient, you won't have to worry OK, I'm at 4.7 gigs on the tablet this month, better start using the 5 gb smartphone data allowance ...
4) Verizon is expensive. Yep. We got all kinds of threads touting the unlimited Straight Talk plans, or the $30 Tmo plan. LOTS of reasons knowledgeable folks are going for the prepaid plans these days, IF you're looking to get a new, cheap plan.
5) IF you have an unlimited plan, AND you use close to or more than 5gb of data, verizon today is the best deal going, and will continue to be the best deal going. I regularly get 20 MBS 4g lte on unlimited verizon. My neighbors unlimited DSL is 6 mbs. I don't have to pay for home internet ....
I'm not seeing any reason for current unlimited users to panic, for new users the new plans are an improvement over current family and multi line plans, and there are plenty of prepaid cheaper options, have been for months now, the new verizon plans don't make the prepaid look any MORE attractive.
EXAMPLE - Galaxy Nexus + xoom lte tablet
CURRENT
Tablet 3GB plan, $35
Smartphone - unlimited talk and txt = $90
Smartphone Unlimited data = $30
Smartphone Hotspot = $30
TOTAL = $185
NEW PLAN, 10 GB
unlimited 10 GB = $100
smartphone +$40
tablet +10
TOTAL = $150
SO which plan is better? 10 GB is a lot of use a month .... and a lot more for the tablet to use if the phone hotspot isn't around.
For some folks, the unlimited IS worth the extra $35 per month, no doubt, but, for many users, looks to me like the new plan might be better ....
SO, if you have no unlimited home internet, and need to make sure you can download the 40GB MOP expansion pack for World of Warcraft when it comes out, or, have no unlimited home internet to DL HD video with every night, by all means, keep your current unlimited verizon wirless plans.
At 20 mbs dl, popping over 30 mbs in the wee hours when downloading HD video, I'll likely keep my unlimited plan for many many more months.
HAVE FUN!
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Tablets are an exception to these plans. The advantage quickly disappears when have multiple smartphone lines.
As for what I have highlighted...I promise you it will not last forever. I have been with Verizon since analog signal was all the rage. They don't roll like that.

Smokeey said:
That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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9.99 per line ( I have five lines) is 49.95.
New device fees: 170.00. Three of my lines don't use or need data. Yet, I am being forced to pay 60 bucks extra on those 3 lines.
So currently between my wife, me, daughter, and two nieces, I pay about 235 bucks after surcharges and taxes for 1400 minutes, unlimited text and MMS. My wife has 4gb of data and I have unlimited.
With the new plans, I would pay 220.00 before surcharges and taxes for just 1gb shared. We would actually pay more than we do now once surcharges are applied. Surcharges for me are just shy of 30 dollars for 5 lines.

adrynalyne said:
Tablets are an exception to these plans. The advantage quickly disappears when have multiple smartphone lines.
As for what I have highlighted...I promise you it will not last forever. I have been with Verizon since analog signal was all the rage. They don't roll like that.
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LOL OK, I'll give you that I too, am expecting to get stabbed in the back by verizon and to have my currently unlimited, UNCAPPED superfast 4g to be taken away at some point. ATT was much more evil much sooner, they simply started capping "unlimited" plans at caps that were below what lower cap plans would cost, i.e. a $60 unlimited plan would get capped at 2 GB, but a new 3GB plan would cost $30.
SO FAR, verizon has been pretty good to me with unlimited data and fast speeds.
My big point was that these "NEW POOLED PLANS" aren't the end for current verizon unlimited customers. There is no sky falling for unlimited users, and for some customer the rates may go up, for other customers the rates may go down, there is no clear "we verizon are putting new screws on the customers".
For many many folks, the current prepaid plans are already the cheapest way to go, but for some folks, the new verizon plans make sense, especially for families that currently pay for multiple lines with their own (non unlimited) data caps on verizon.

It's really not THAT bad. Under the new plans, my current plan would be $10 less a month. If I added unlimited voice right now, it'd be roughly the same.
New Plan: $40 for the phone, $100 for 10 GB's x 20% discount = $112 + taxes.
This would give me unlimited data and WiFi Tether (useful if I was a fan of stock)
Current Plan: 900 minutes, unlimited text, 10GB x 20% discount = $110 with taxes.
Now, it sucks to be forced into unlimited voice. But the total bill isn't unreasonable. What's unreasonable is having the only voice/text plan offered be an all you can eat buffet. They're essentially raising the cost of data and making it palatable by charging a reasonable amount for voice and text.
All that said, I'm a HUGE proponent of not having a contract and being able to say, "See ya later". When I had my MiFi without a contract, I got GREAT customer service. I went ahead and signed a contract for my GNex only because I frankly need Verizon's network for work purposes so it's not like I can really go anywhere. And, compared to T-Mobile, which I totally dig, Verizon's network is far superior and I think they're entitled to charge a premium for that fact. The best way to avoid the new plans is to exercise a concept called "saving" and put back a few bucks every month to afford a non-subsidized phone the next time you want to upgrade. Considering I'm on Verizon and a Nexus freak, I don't imagine I'll be upgrading any time soon.
If I ever decided to get a tablet, and I doubt I would, being able to add one on for only $10 really is pretty freaking awesome. Right now, I wouldn't fathom it. Even if I wanted to blow several hundred on a iPad or a Xoom, it's a novelty that I'm not going to pay $600/year on for data access. But $10/month, well that's actually reasonable.
I'm all for blasting networks, but Verizon should get some props for certain aspects of this change in my opinion.

KWKSLVR said:
It's really not THAT bad. Under the new plans, my current plan would be $10 less a month. If I added unlimited voice right now, it'd be roughly the same.
New Plan: $40 for the phone, $100 for 10 GB's x 20% discount = $112 + taxes.
This would give me unlimited data and WiFi Tether (useful if I was a fan of stock)
Current Plan: 900 minutes, unlimited text, 10GB x 20% discount = $110 with taxes.
Now, it sucks to be forced into unlimited voice. But the total bill isn't unreasonable. What's unreasonable is having the only voice/text plan offered be an all you can eat buffet. They're essentially raising the cost of data and making it palatable by charging a reasonable amount for voice and text.
All that said, I'm a HUGE proponent of not having a contract and being able to say, "See ya later". When I had my MiFi without a contract, I got GREAT customer service. I went ahead and signed a contract for my GNex only because I frankly need Verizon's network for work purposes so it's not like I can really go anywhere. And, compared to T-Mobile, which I totally dig, Verizon's network is far superior and I think they're entitled to charge a premium for that fact. The best way to avoid the new plans is to exercise a concept called "saving" and put back a few bucks every month to afford a non-subsidized phone the next time you want to upgrade. Considering I'm on Verizon and a Nexus freak, I don't imagine I'll be upgrading any time soon.
If I ever decided to get a tablet, and I doubt I would, being able to add one on for only $10 really is pretty freaking awesome. Right now, I wouldn't fathom it. Even if I wanted to blow several hundred on a iPad or a Xoom, it's a novelty that I'm not going to pay $600/year on for data access. But $10/month, well that's actually reasonable.
I'm all for blasting networks, but Verizon should get some props for certain aspects of this change in my opinion.
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Not that bad? Maybe for you.
adrynalyne said:
9.99 per line ( I have five lines) is 49.95.
New device fees: 170.00. Three of my lines don't use or need data. Yet, I am being forced to pay 60 bucks extra on those 3 lines.
So currently between my wife, me, daughter, and two nieces, I pay about 235 bucks after surcharges and taxes for 1400 minutes, unlimited text and MMS. My wife has 4gb of data and I have unlimited.
With the new plans, I would pay 220.00 before surcharges and taxes for just 1gb shared. We would actually pay more than we do now once surcharges are applied. Surcharges for me are just shy of 30 dollars for 5 lines.
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[Q] T-Mobile $30/mo plan for Note2?

I posted this earlier but this question probably deserves its own thread as I'm not sure yet why more people aren't considering it here for the Note2 (up front cost of unsubsidized device? - there seems to be plenty of people either buying or considering buying unlocked international models in XDA forums)?
- Someone I met at BestBuy while marveling at the Note2 for ~2hrs told me about a $30 T-Mobile plan :http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/04/t-mobile-monthly-4g-review-30-per-month-bargain (He praised Verizon local coverage but is grandfathered into their unlimited plan)?
" For $30 per month, including taxes and fees, I could get unlimited messaging and Web. The plan includes just 100 minutes of voice calls per month, but that’s plenty considering my use-case for this phone. Extra minutes cost just 10 cents each. The mobile hotspot feature is a $15 add-on."
Anyone using this $30/mo T-Mobile plan with their Note2? Any issues besides buying an unsubsidized device to use it?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
" Get talk, text and high-speed web on any capable T-Mobile phone.
It’s a better way to do prepaid. Compare Monthly4G plans.
$50/mo
Unlimited Talk Text & Web
$30/mo
Unlimited Web & Text with 100 Minutes Talk
Great for video chat, streaming
music/movies/TV, playing
online games, and more."
Also found the following related thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892968&page=2 ( T-Mobile 30 dollar plan for gs3???) - Babydoll25 mentions no Wi-Fi calling but I think I can live without it & use Skype or other alternatives if needed

I am on the $30 a month 100 minutes talk 5GB 4G plan from Walmart, which is the same plan as the one on that link, with the Note II and no issues here. Obviously I had to pay a huge unsubsidized chunk of change for the device itself but I'm glad to only be paying $30 a month for everything.
I almost never go over the 100 minutes and I do keep an extra $10 on the account just in case I do go over and run into the 10 cents a minute after the 100 minutes are up but I've only had to dip into that a little bit once.
BTW the 'unlimited' data you will find in the fine print is the first 5GB is 4G, then thereafter you get throttled to slower speeds, but I still find 5GB is plenty enough for me.
Also, you can do wifi calling if you use a different app like Google Voice + GrooveIP. IIRC you do have to root also to keep it from deducting from your minutes though. I did it on my old phone but I haven't messed with it on the Note II yet because like I mentioned I just really don't talk that much.
Hotspot you can also do either with root and some finagling or if you don't mind a cord you can do cabled usb tether.

Sorry to disappoint you buddy, but a lot of people here including myself is been using this plan for a long time now. I've been using it myself for almost a year and half, so far I have used this plan with the galaxy s 2, Galaxy Note AT&T, Galaxy note T Mobile, and now Galaxy Note 2 T Mobile. It's a great plan for people that doesn't talk much on the phone hahahahaha.
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We all have been using this plan for awhile lol.
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_Motoki_ said:
I am on the $30 a month 100 minutes talk 5GB 4G plan from Walmart, which is the same plan as the one on that link, with the Note II and no issues here. Obviously I had to pay a huge unsubsidized chunk of change for the device itself but I'm glad to only be paying $30 a month for everything.
I almost never go over the 100 minutes and I do keep an extra $10 on the account just in case I do go over and run into the 10 cents a minute after the 100 minutes are up but I've only had to dip into that a little bit once.
BTW the 'unlimited' data you will find in the fine print is the first 5GB is 4G, then thereafter you get throttled to slower speeds, but I still find 5GB is plenty enough for me.
Also, you can do wifi calling if you use a different app like Google Voice + GrooveIP. IIRC you do have to root also to keep it from deducting from your minutes though. I did it on my old phone but I haven't messed with it on the Note II yet because like I mentioned I just really don't talk that much.
Hotspot you can also do either with root and some finagling or if you don't mind a cord you can do cabled usb tether.
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Thanks _Motoki_ are you rooted or will you root the Note2?
For those who would rather not pay the full unsubsidized price upfront, couldn't they buy the Note2 for that T-Mobile in store price of $250 +$20/mo for 20 mo interest free (total $650 over ~20 months) with the no contract $49.99/mo plan (500 Whenever Minutes + unlimited data or $59.99/mo for no throttling if needed) & then just do this $30/mo plan thereafter if their use case supports it (or would the store let you immediately do it on that $250 +$20/mo for 20 mo interest free price)?
T-Mobile seems to offer more plan flexibility than the other carriers but they certainly did not mention any $30/mo plan to me when I was in their store..is it really only $30/mo total including taxes & fees?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks _Motoki_ are you rooted or will you root the Note2?
For those who would rather not pay the full unsubsidized price upfront, couldn't they buy the Note2 for that T-Mobile in store price of $250 +$20/mo for 20 mo interest free (total $650 over ~20 months) with the no contract $49.99/mo plan (500 Whenever Minutes + unlimited data or $59.99/mo for no throttling if needed) & then just do this $30/mo plan thereafter if their use case supports it (or would the store let you immediately do it on that $250 +$20/mo for 20 mo interest free price)?
T-Mobile seems to offer more plan flexibility than the other carriers but they certainly did not mention any $30/mo plan to me when I was in their store..is it really only $30/mo total including taxes & fees?
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The $250 down with $20/mo times 20 months=$650 for phone is only available thru the value plan which requires a 2 year contract. So you are locked into a contract and pay full price for the phone.
The $30 4g monthly plan unl data, text, and 100 min is a prepaid plan requiring no contract. You bring your own phone- any gsm will do. Better if it works on tmo 3g.
An there are no taxes or fees. If you buy thru calling mart, with the right discounts which are sent to you via email if you are on their customer list- you can get refils for $28.50/month!
Also this plan is only available online or thru walmart stores. T-mobile stores will not offer it to you. Strictly do it yourself online.

xpprofessional1 said:
Sorry to disappoint you buddy, but a lot of people here including myself is been using this plan for a long time now. I've been using it myself for almost a year and half, so far I have used this plan with the galaxy s 2, Galaxy Note AT&T, Galaxy note T Mobile, and now Galaxy Note 2 T Mobile. It's a great plan for people that doesn't talk much on the phone hahahahaha.
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Why would I be disappointed?:victory: Don't you think more people would consider trying the Note 2 on T-Mobile if they knew this plan was available for the Note2?
If the coverage isn't acceptable, the Note 2 could still be returned for a full refund within 14 days right with no activation fee right?
Sounds like a low risk way to try T-Mobile..
Also can't users just move up to other T-Mobile off contract plans if this $30/mo total plan doesn't best support their use case?:good:

No sim fees, no activation fees? All you have to do is pay the first month?
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sashusmom said:
The $250 down with $20/mo times 20 months=$650 for phone is only available thru the value plan which requires a 2 year contract. So you are locked into a contract and pay full price for the phone.
The $30 4g monthly plan unl data, text, and 100 min is a prepaid plan requiring no contract. You bring your own phone- any gsm will do. Better if it works on tmo 3g.
An there are no taxes or fees. If you buy thru calling mart, with the right discounts which are sent to you via email if you are on their customer list- you can get refils for $28.50/month!
Also this plan is only available online or thru walmart stores. T-mobile stores will not offer it to you. Strictly do it yourself online.
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Thanks Ok she didn't mention that price required a 2 year contract (& was within a broader conversation of plans available outside of contracts).. well I guess if someone is unsure of how the Note2 on T-Mobile would work for them, they can could still get it for the above deal to test out for 14 days & return it for full refund to get out of that contract & then buy it online for full $650+tax if satisfied right?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans (not just Walmart it seems but $30/mo or $28.50/month for email discount refills is impressively less than I'm currently paying for my inferior EVO non-existent "4G"service on Sprint compounded by their slow 3G)..
Users can still easily go to other T-Mobile off contract plans if this $30/mo total plan doesn't best support their use case in following months right?
I don't think I want to deal with contracts if there is a better option for my use case..

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks Ok she didn't mention that price required a 2 year contract (& was within a broader conversation of plans available outside of contracts).. well I guess if someone is unsure of how the Note2 on T-Mobile would work for them, they can could still get it for the above deal to test out for 14 days & return it for full refund to get out of that contract & then buy it online for full $650+tax if satisfied right?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans (not just Walmart it seems but $30/mo or $28.50/month for email discount refills is impressively less than I'm currently paying for my inferior EVO non-existent "4G"service on Sprint compounded by their slow 3G)..
Users can still easily go to other T-Mobile off contract plans if this $30/mo total plan doesn't best support their use case in following months right?
I don't think I want to deal with contracts if there is a better option for my use case..
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Of course. It's a no-contract prepaid plan. Nothing keeping you from doing whatever you want. You could buy a Straight Talk sim and switch off between that and T-Mobile's $30 plan every month if you want.
BTW I'm on the $30 plan, bought the phone in store for $650. Best choice for me by far. The cost savings over 2 years will make the initial high price pay for itself several times over.
Also, don't completely discount T-Mobile stores. Some of them are greedy but mine had no problems activating the $30 plan. They even gave me the sim for free and had no problem adding insurance ($7) for me. My total in store was $649.99 + $30 + $7 + tax. Everything was set up in under 5 minutes. Maybe I just got lucky!

LucJoe said:
Of course. It's a no-contract prepaid plan. Nothing keeping you from doing whatever you want. You could buy a Straight Talk sim and switch off between that and T-Mobile's $30 plan every month if you want.
BTW I'm on the $30 plan, bought the phone in store for $650. Best choice for me by far. The cost savings over 2 years will make the initial high price pay for itself several times over.
Also, don't completely discount T-Mobile stores. Some of them are greedy but mine had no problems activating the $30 plan. They even gave me the sim for free and had no problem adding insurance ($7) for me. My total in store was $649.99 + $30 + $7 + tax. Everything was set up in under 5 minutes. Maybe I just got lucky!
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Wow that's fast thanks, just wanted to make sure there are no complications-fine print (the T-Mobile store didn't mention the $250+$20/mo for 20 months would involve contracts & seemed to rather laud that it was an interest free way to buy the Note2 unsubsidized in these days of low interest rates)
Do you think it would be best to call some local T-mobile stores to see if they'll do it before showing up or will they be more likely to do it impulsively (there is at least one T-Mobile close to a frequented shopping center locally here)?
I actually noticed the $7/mo insurance including theft, loss, accidental damage etc..anything we should be aware of besides the below (people have had good experiences with it?):
Thnx
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-additional-services#Monthly4GHandsetProtection
http://www.t-mobile.com/Company/pdf/WP24276B_T-Mobile_NY_6.11.12.pdf
"Handset Protection* you won’t
miss a beat if your device is:
• Lost
• Stolen
• Accidentally damaged
(including water damage)
• Malfunctioning due to mechanical
or electrical failure**
Live Your Life With Confidence.
Enroll Today!
You can enroll in Monthly4G Handset Protection within
14 days of purchasing your T-Mobile®
phone with
an accompanying Monthly4G rate plan.
***
Handset
Protection is optional and is not required to purchase
the device or obtain T-Mobile wireless services.
* Benefits may also be purchased separately through an insurance
program that offers coverage in the event of accidental damage,
loss, or theft and is underwritten by American Security Insurance
Company for a monthly charge of $6; or through an extended
service contract that offers coverage against mechanical breakdown
for a monthly charge of $2. To enroll in the separate insurance or
extended service contract programs, please call 1-866-778-1044.
**Excludes mechanical or electrical breakdown covered by the
manufacturer’s warranty.
***Monthly4G Handset Protection is not available on the iPhone®
;
not all devices sold by T-Mobile are eligible for Monthly4G
Handset Protection Coverage.
More fine print:
http://wac.04c7.edgecastcdn.net/000...s/pdf/WP24276B_T-Mobile_All_States_online.pdf

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks _Motoki_ are you rooted or will you root the Note2?
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I'm not rooted on the Note II. I don't want to risk messing anything up for the LTE software update T-Mobile should hopefully push, eventually.
I was rooted on my last phone which was just a cheap Samsung Exhibit II that bought when I switched over from Virgin until I could get something better.
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For what it's worth, I am running Solavei($49 unlimited everything including 4G) vs the $30 plan from T-Mobile (although I have the t-mobile sim, just in case). I am loving the coverage... and I am even more impressed with the download speeds. Attached a pic to show how good it is. (the 11mb speed is sitting in a dave and busters in columbia, MD, the slow 600k speed is sitting in the back corner of a pizza joint in columbia for lunch, with edge connectivity).
If you ask me, it's a better deal than the $30 plan.

mdt73 said:
For what it's worth, I am running Solavei($49 unlimited everything including 4G) vs the $30 plan from T-Mobile (although I have the t-mobile sim, just in case). I am loving the coverage... and I am even more impressed with the download speeds. Attached a pic to show how good it is. (the 11mb speed is sitting in a dave and busters in columbia, MD, the slow 600k speed is sitting in the back corner of a pizza joint in columbia for lunch, with edge connectivity).
If you ask me, it's a better deal than the $30 plan.
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It depends on your individual needs. I don't use much more than 100 min and if I need more, I have a little extra balance and just pay 10 cents per minute. 5gb of 4g data is good for me, then it switches to unl. at edge speeds. $20 savings for 12 months is $360- half the cost of the phone off contract! A much better deal for me than Solavei's $50/month

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Wow that's fast thanks, just wanted to make sure there are no complications-fine print (the T-Mobile store didn't mention the $250+$20/mo for 20 months would involve contracts & seemed to rather laud that it was an interest free way to buy the Note2 unsubsidized in these days of low interest rates)
Do you think it would be best to call some local T-mobile stores to see if they'll do it before showing up or will they be more likely to do it impulsively (there is at least one T-Mobile close to a frequented shopping center locally here)?
I actually noticed the $7/mo insurance including theft, loss, accidental damage etc..anything we should be aware of besides the below (people have had good experiences with it?):
Thnx
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-additional-services#Monthly4GHandsetProtection
http://www.t-mobile.com/Company/pdf/WP24276B_T-Mobile_NY_6.11.12.pdf
"Handset Protection* you won’t
miss a beat if your device is:
• Lost
• Stolen
• Accidentally damaged
(including water damage)
• Malfunctioning due to mechanical
or electrical failure**
Live Your Life With Confidence.
Enroll Today!
You can enroll in Monthly4G Handset Protection within
14 days of purchasing your T-Mobile®
phone with
an accompanying Monthly4G rate plan.
***
Handset
Protection is optional and is not required to purchase
the device or obtain T-Mobile wireless services.
* Benefits may also be purchased separately through an insurance
program that offers coverage in the event of accidental damage,
loss, or theft and is underwritten by American Security Insurance
Company for a monthly charge of $6; or through an extended
service contract that offers coverage against mechanical breakdown
for a monthly charge of $2. To enroll in the separate insurance or
extended service contract programs, please call 1-866-778-1044.
**Excludes mechanical or electrical breakdown covered by the
manufacturer’s warranty.
***Monthly4G Handset Protection is not available on the iPhone®
;
not all devices sold by T-Mobile are eligible for Monthly4G
Handset Protection Coverage.
More fine print:
http://wac.04c7.edgecastcdn.net/000...s/pdf/WP24276B_T-Mobile_All_States_online.pdf
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I just got done making a Loss claim with them about 2 weeks ago and they were VERY quick and the deductible was $130 and they shipped me a BRAND NEW Note 2 in it's original box w/all accessories included... Not too shabby.... Although seeing as the Note 2 just came out they def do not have any refurbs yet... I am sooooo glad I had it on my account cause I just paid almost $700 w/tax for the phone and I would much rather pay $130 rather then lose a brand new $700 phone! I woulda **** myself if I lost it with no recourse...
BTW: Their Monthly4g prepaid plans are through a different provider (insurance company) than their contract plans and I have heard of people having hassles with the other company but not through Assurance...

I use ensquared for my insurance. $58 a year. $75 deductible. 2 phones can be replaced. Covers loss, theft, accidents and the normal coverage. Hard to beat.
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sashusmom said:
It depends on your individual needs. I don't use much more than 100 min and if I need more, I have a little extra balance and just pay 10 cents per minute. 5gb of 4g data is good for me, then it switches to unl. at edge speeds. $20 savings for 12 months is $360- half the cost of the phone off contract! A much better deal for me than Solavei's $50/month
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Recheck your math. Also, do you have a house phone?
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Wish I signed up that $30 plan before signed my contract.
Is there a way to sign up for 2nd line under the $30 dollar plan and port my number to that 2nd line then cancel the 1st line?
I want to keep my same number.

mdt73 said:
I use ensquared for my insurance. $58 a year. $75 deductible. 2 phones can be replaced. Covers loss, theft, accidents and the normal coverage. Hard to beat.
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Sounds like an interesting alternative but I'd have to read that fine print:
http://www.ensquared.com/catalog/phone-insurance/1-year-phone-insurance-smartphone
http://www.ensquared.com/1_Year_Phone_Insurance_Terms.htm
http://www.ensquared.com/catalog/phone-insurance/2-year-phone-insurance-smartphone
http://www.ensquared.com/2_Year_Phone_Insurance_Terms.htm

I picked up A Note II Saturday off CL for a decent price. White too...all the stores had were the grey ones. I had preordered a sim activation kit from T-Mobile http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit for .99 cents and then did the activation online when I got the phone. Smooth as silk and I am getting surprisingly good data speeds. 8-16MB
Cheers

shojus said:
I just got done making a Loss claim with them about 2 weeks ago and they were VERY quick and the deductible was $130 and they shipped me a BRAND NEW Note 2 in it's original box w/all accessories included... Not too shabby.... Although seeing as the Note 2 just came out they def do not have any refurbs yet... I am sooooo glad I had it on my account cause I just paid almost $700 w/tax for the phone and I would much rather pay $130 rather then lose a brand new $700 phone! I woulda **** myself if I lost it with no recourse...
BTW: Their Monthly4g prepaid plans are through a different provider (insurance company) than their contract plans and I have heard of people having hassles with the other company but not through Assurance...
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Verizon S3 32gb in white w/unlimited LTE
T-mobile Note 2 16gb in Titanium
Apple iPad 3rd gen 64gb white w/Verizon LTE (For my 3 year old lil girl....)
Coming SOON: Nexus 4 16gb
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Good to read, so the deductible shouldn't be more than $130? I might not be as happy about getting a refurb in the future however. If it didn't cover theft, loss, accidental damage I wouldn't bother considering it but at $7/mo over T-Mobile competitive plans sounds like a more reasonable consideration to take some of the sting out of some unfortunate event.
I'm still somewhat debating the $30/mo prepaid for the Note2 which you point out uses a different insurer or some of their reasonable contract plans. I'm also considering a Nexus 4 as a second device which I'd likely do on this $30/mo prepaid plan likely without insurance considering its lower unit cost, are you planning on getting insurance for your Nexus 4?
Could you comment on your experiences with T-Mobile Vs your Verizon service? Thnx

T mobile impressions

I just switched from att to tmo because i was able to get the phone cheaper on value plan (250 down and 20 a month) and mainly because they are the only ones who have good unlimited data, sprint sucks, who knows when lte will eventually be available for sprint...
The plans are really cheap! im on the value plan because i bought the phone outright, but i moved my mom and dad over from att family plan too.
before we were paying about 340 for all 3 unlimited everything, now it comes to 177, and we were able to get 8 percent off every bill because of my fathers company which happens to be on their list. And, we can add my sister for free for 500 minutes and unlimited night, weekends, and mobile to mobile and text.
The question was service, but i didnt care and my parents said that to save like 150 a month, they dont care either. i live in brooklyn, ny. service seems to be pretty good. The data is amazing! Honestly, you dont need more than 5-10 mbps and i get solid 10-15 or sometimes 8. thats amazing! who needs effing LTE! and according to tmo store employees theyll have lte next year.
From what i hear, customer service sucks... i havent had that yet....
My mother does sales, so she drives all over the tri-state area not just in heavily populated areas so it remains to be seen how happy she will be with it... but still Its so freaking cheap it doesnt matter
anyone else's thoughts

We have been with T-Mobile going on 8 years now. Currently have 5 phones on the Classic Unlimited Family plan. The coverage is great, with few dropped calls. Customer service is good, but their Automated Directory is a pain in the [email protected]#$. 1 suggestion to get to a live agent is to say "Loyalty" when asked what you want to do. My biggest grip with them, and I'm sure this goes for the majority of carriers is their Tech Support is worthless.

I switched after 5 years with Sprint. Since they keep dropping support for the device I purchased it was time for a change. Plus with all the same features on the plan I had, I'll pay 147 at Tmo vs 194 at sprint.
And Hspa+ 42 is soooooooo much faster the the wimax I had on my Photon
noted for future reference on my Note 2

I had switched to Sprint for the EVO 3D and the plan at the time seemed like a good deal.. biggest mistake ever leaving T-Mobile.. 3 months of painful service from Sprint... they canceled both contracts, kept the phone, sold em and moved the wife and I back to T-Mobile. Not planning on leaving for the foreseeable future.

The gf had an AT&T iphone and after 2 years and no longer in contract..., she wanted to cancel her $30 dollar dataplan and continue to just use the phone. They said No to her and that she must keep the dataplan. She said she would go to T-mobile. They didn't care and dare her.
So now she's on T-mobile with her iphone, no data plan required. T-mobile is very flexible.
Also Sim based phone > CDMA phone all day. Not only is the resale value higher, you can actually use it outside of the US.

I've been a TMO customer for 10 years. I would disagree with the poster that said their Customer Service is a negative. I haven't called recently other than lighting up the SIM that came with the Note 2 from Wirefly (I wasn't cutting my GS2 SIM) and that went similarly to every other call I have ever had with them. Outstanding every time. The only issue I have ever had with Tmobile is coverage. It sucks at my house so WiFi calling is mandatory IF I care about talking on the phone, I don't. This part of the country is Verizon for excellent coverage. Tmobile struggles in rural areas but again, I don't really care about that. It's rare I find myself in those areas. Customer support, in my experience, has always been a very positive experience.

You can't cancel your data plan on AT&T while on contract, you can pay a min of $25 a month for the data plan. I moved from ATT to Tmobile because of unlimited data. My contract is up with ATT in Jan. Was paying $50 for 5G, $30 unlimited text and on a $69. 99 family plan of 700 min. a month. Screw them... Moved to Tmobile for a valu plan of $79.99 + tax... UNLIMITED EVERYTHING. I don't miss ATT' lte cuz there ain't none in my area and seriously Tmobile runs faster.
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Love Tmobile. I'm on their prepaid Monthly4G $30/mo plan. Can't beat it. Sure i only get 5GB of 4G data, but with WiFi all day at work and at home, I don't really need the unlimited data.

I've been reading a lot about some of the carriers LTE and how TMO is faster. What I have heard is TMO is going LTE sometime next year, I'm hoping this doesn't effect our current speed?

AG0087 said:
You can't cancel your data plan on AT&T while on contract, you can pay a min of $25 a month for the data plan. I moved from ATT to Tmobile because of unlimited data. My contract is up with ATT in Jan. Was paying $50 for 5G, $30 unlimited text and on a $69. 99 family plan of 700 min. a month. Screw them... Moved to Tmobile for a valu plan of $79.99 + tax... UNLIMITED EVERYTHING. I don't miss ATT' lte cuz there ain't none in my area and seriously Tmobile runs faster.
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Thats exactly what I had with att and exactly why I left. But it sounds like youre paying 10 dollars to much now. I'm paying 69 for unlimited everything with no data cap.

AG0087 said:
You can't cancel your data plan on AT&T while on contract, you can pay a min of $25 a month for the data plan. I moved from ATT to Tmobile because of unlimited data. My contract is up with ATT in Jan. Was paying $50 for 5G, $30 unlimited text and on a $69. 99 family plan of 700 min. a month. Screw them... Moved to Tmobile for a valu plan of $79.99 + tax... UNLIMITED EVERYTHING. I don't miss ATT' lte cuz there ain't none in my area and seriously Tmobile runs faster.
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That sounds just like what I had but it sounds like youre paying 10 dollars too much now. I have unlimited everything with no data cap for 69.99...

at&t is so stupid........you can't even cancel your data plan even if you're not on contract. Smartphone = data plan REGARDLESS.
That's why I have T-Mobile even though I work for at&t.
I have 5 smartphones on my plan but only have data plans on 2 of them. My kids only use data wherever there is wifi. Why can't at&t understand that I don't know but T-Mobile does.
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jlczl said:
at&t is so stupid........you can't even cancel your data plan even if you're not on contract. Smartphone = data plan REGARDLESS.
That's why I have T-Mobile even though I work for at&t.
I have 5 smartphones on my plan but only have data plans on 2 of them. My kids only use data wherever there is wifi. Why can't at&t understand that I don't know but T-Mobile does.
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This is true. They won't let you cancel your data plan even if you're off contract. If you're using any smart phone, they required you get a data plan. lol. Plus i think they have a 2GB data cap on their LTE and if you go over, they charge for it.

OP, I was in a smilar boat as you. Transferred the fam over to value and have 4 great lines for less than $140. I thought service would suck compqred to AT&T, but quite the opposite. The only carrier coverage and speed envy I have is for VZW, but with their dumb CDMA, locked bootloaders, and double high prices they can keep it lol.
Very happy Tmo customer for the last 14 months.
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AT&T Grandfathered Unlimited Data vs. T-Mobile Unlimited 4G LTE?

Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.

1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
No. If you have Unlimited Nationwide 4G you will never be throttled.
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
Both.
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
That's up to you.
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Not a chance, this is their main selling point.

CZ Eddie said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
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1) With the unlimited nationwide 4g data plan, there is no throttling and its unlimited 4G data.
2) Yes it does apply to LTE but you need a LTE enabled device.
3)If you think that the 5 dollar difference is worth it. But in all reality its unlimited everything with no data caps when you get the 70 dollar plan, plus LTE is coming to your area soon so i'd go for it.
4)I highly doubt they would do something like that as they are trying to get ahead of Sprint, At&t, Verizon with the simple choice uncarrier plans.
lol someone answered while i was typing...oops.

Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.

CZ Eddie said:
Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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Keep in mind - with AT&T you gotta contract for that $199 phone. Whereas with TMobile, you don't have a contract..

CZ Eddie said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
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1) hell no
2) full LTE
3) hell no
4) hell no

coyttl said:
Keep in mind - with AT&T you gotta contract for that $199 phone. Whereas with TMobile, you don't have a contract..
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Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
Sounds nice I guess.
I wish T-Mobile website had a "chat" capability so I can talk to a salesperson. But they removed that feature.

CZ Eddie said:
Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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you dont have to pay $20 a month for 24 months if you pay the $149, and then make a $300 payment after you account is created. you'll only pay $20 a month for 9 months after.
this is what i did.
f*** ATT bro.
f*** em'
make the jump.
i was with ATT mobile for ~15 years and couldn't be happier ive left those f**ks
f*****g bit*es

CZ Eddie said:
Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
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I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.

Regarding 2) Faux 4G/LTE:
I know quite a lot of ppl have issue with this as a matter of topic. But to be honest the "faux" 4G / LTE is pretty darn fast. It's HSPDA+ which at its worst runs at 4meg down and 1 meg up. I know plenty of ppl in Nyc that don't get that on their cable modems reliably. Also it's pretty challenging to really push the need for more unless you are downloading a rom.
I think it's a lot of media hype that ppl "need" 20 meg down and 10 meg up... It's like advertising a car that can do a 200+ mph top speed. Is it nice to have? Sure it is... Do you often have the opportunity to show it off I real life or day to day use? Not really... 100mph is plenty fast lol
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coyttl said:
I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
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Awesome idea except that when you get a subsidized priced phone from att you are committing to 2 more years under contract with them...
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CZ Eddie said:
Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
Sounds nice I guess.
I wish T-Mobile website had a "chat" capability so I can talk to a salesperson. But they removed that feature.
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No, the phone is not a contract. It's just T-Mobile financing the phone to you. Just like buying a car, you put so much down and you pay it off when you pay it off, but your MINIMUM monthly payment is 20 bucks.
If you put the down payment, then 200 down the first month, and another 200 down the next month, and another 80 or so down the third month then cancel your service you now own the phone completely and T-Mobile will give you an unlock code and be like "Alright bro, thanks for the business, hope you come back yo." No early termination fees, no nothing.
However, if you cancel your service while you still owe money on the phone, you still owe money on the phone. You either pay it off at a rate of at minimum 20 per month OR you don't and they sell the finance to a collection agency.
It's just simple financing rather than being put into actual contracts like the big guys.
coyttl said:
I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
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...except the ETF for ATT is 325 dollars... plus tax... plus tax when you buy the phone for 199... So you're looking at 525 plus tax for a phone you can MAYBE sell for 600. Not to mention whatever the rediculous cost of the first month plus activation fees, plus hidden charges, plus whatever the **** ATT feels like adding to your first (only in this case) bill.
Plus I'm sure ATT has somewhere in fine print you will have to pay more if you try some stupid **** like this.
Great idea, you should try it and end up paying probably around 150 bucks for the lesson.

TeknoGodz said:
You either pay it off completely you don't and they sell the finance to a collection agency.
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FTFY. If you end service before the end of the phone payment term, you owe the balance of the phone there. If it's $20, you pay $20, if it's $200, you pay $200.

k0nane said:
FTFY. If you end service before the end of the phone payment term, you owe the balance of the phone there. If it's $20, you pay $20, if it's $200, you pay $200.
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Oh really, I thought you could still pay it monthly... Well that kinda sucks.

TeknoGodz said:
Oh really, I thought you could still pay it monthly... Well that kinda sucks.
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No I'm pretty sure you can still pay it off monthly even after you cancel the service according to one of the corporate T-Mobile agents I spoke to.
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No I'm pretty sure you can still pay it off monthly even after you cancel the service according to one of the corporate T-Mobile agents I spoke to.
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Then again I would NOT trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They no nothing. I asked 3 different people and they told me I could not use the 100 dollar cards that you can buy at walmart or target for my simple choice plan. They told me there was no way and there are no prepaid cards that allow you to do this. The next day I was at target and saw the card.... It clearly states "For use with prepaid or monthly plans". Bought it and used it no issues.
Haven't believed a word from their mouth since.

TeknoGodz said:
Then again I would NOT trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They no nothing. I asked 3 different people and they told me I could not use the 100 dollar cards that you can buy at walmart or target for my simple choice plan. They told me there was no way and there are no prepaid cards that allow you to do this. The next day I was at target and saw the card.... It clearly states "For use with prepaid or monthly plans". Bought it and used it no issues.
Haven't believed a word from their mouth since.
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That's bad luck lol. Usually the people I talk to are usually right but I do customer service over chat.
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Yeah, it's really clever marketing by T-Mobile, this whole "un-carrier" thing. You end up paying $20/month for the privilege of not having a contract. I don't know about most of you, but I don't switch carriers THAT often. And even so, if your termination fee is pro-rated, then why not let the carrier eat the subsidy for as long as you were a customer? You're going to have service for a period of time anyway, you might as well get device subsidy credit for it. With T-Mobile you get nada. Assuming you're a T-Mobile customer for 2 years, you just paid full price for the phone AND $70/month for service. It's really genius and AT&T has to be pissed they didn't think of it first those livered lilly money grubers!
I have the AT&T Unlimited Data plan, but at 5gb and then throttled, they can s!#k it.

kevroc said:
Yeah, it's really clever marketing by T-Mobile, this whole "un-carrier" thing. You end up paying $20/month for the privilege of not having a contract. I don't know about most of you, but I don't switch carriers THAT often. And even so, if your termination fee is pro-rated, then why not let the carrier eat the subsidy for as long as you were a customer? You're going to have service for a period of time anyway, you might as well get device subsidy credit for it. With T-Mobile you get nada. Assuming you're a T-Mobile customer for 2 years, you just paid full price for the phone AND $70/month for service. It's really genius and AT&T has to be pissed they didn't think of it first those livered lilly money grubers!
I have the AT&T Unlimited Data plan, but at 5gb and then throttled, they can s!#k it.
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From each carrier's website, new contract, two lines, assuming purchase of two S4s:
Sprint: $249.99 per phone ($149.99 if transferring your number), $149.99 per month for 1500 shared minutes and unlimited text/data ($209 per month for unlimited everything)
AT&T: $199.99 per phone, $149.99 per month for 550 shared minutes, unlimited text, 3 GB data per phone (more per month for more minutes, 209.99 if you want unlimited; $20 extra per phone to upgrade to 5 GB, their max allowed)
Verizon: $199.99 per phone, $149.99 per month for unlimited talk/text and 4 GB of shared data ($160 for 6 GB, up to $190 for 12 GB)
T-Mobile: $149.99 per phone up front, $140 (includes phone payment) for unlimited talk/text and 2.5 GB of data per phone, $160 for unlimited data instead
*That* is the point of T-Mobile's plans, the no-contract thing is merely a nice convenience. Even including the phone cost it's $10/month cheaper than the other carriers for their cheapest useful plans (assuming you want more than a few hundred megs of data each month) and just $10 more per month than the fairly limited plans Verizon and AT&T offer at that price level gets you full unlimited.