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Tonight was the first time I considered leaving sprint

I've been with Sprint for 7 years, mainly because of cost (I'm on Sero) and phones. That and I've always considered CDMA to be superior to GSM with regards to coverage. (in the US) But tonight I second guessed myself.
In my apartment, which is half underground, I need an airwave to get a decent signal from sprint. My girlfriend is visiting and for ****s and giggles I did a speed test on her atnt HTC inspire. Now I had heard people mock atnt's 4G network for not being true "4G," but with one bar of signal this phone is pulling 25mbs down and 6mbs up. Most of the time in my area I only get 3G and when I travel to the city next to mine the 4G is around 2mbs down.
I went to atnt's website and priced a plan similar to mine and it would end up costing me around $100 per month to get from atnt what I get for $60 from sprint. And thats not technically accurate since sprint gives us unlimited data. For that price difference I can't justify switching yet.
This phone is awesome and looks like it will be enough to hold me over for some time. (time as defined by a cell phone addict) The upcoming galaxy nexus may have a nice screen, but its raw power seems lacking compared to the SGS2. Which makes sense. The galaxy S series is samsung's flagship, the nexus series is google's flagship provided by samsung, who would get the better hardware? The only phone I see on the horizon right now that is a challenger (besides the S3 ofc) would be the samsung note. Now if I was going to go through the trouble of importing a phone (note will be only international initially it seems) and getting it to work on one of the carriers here, atnt would be the easiest option. If they made a CDMA international version with the right radio I could probably figure out or find/pay someone with the appropriate knowledge of CMDA workshop to get it working on sprint, but the alternative would be easier. I am an admitted sprint fanboy, but tonight is the first time in a while I actually priced out other options. I will probably stick out the rest of this contract (about two years obviously) and see how network vision and the LTE rollout pans out; however if things aren't looking much better I'm jumping ship or getting a second phone.
Anyway I apologize for the extremely random rant. I was shocked by atnt's "4G" network performance. Thats something I would've expected from a verizon LTE phone, but apparently the stereotypes I've held onto about the different networks are incorrect. Or the tower her phone is connected to is extremely uncongested, who knows. Like I said, I'm a sprint fan and a share holder, but if something doesn't change, my opinion will.
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Sprint's network blows worse than I thought compared to others

25mbs down and 6mbs up? Amazing!
Nothing like downloading a movie in under ten minutes... better be a good movie though since that uses up a good chunk of the 2GB you get per month.
Sorry, but it has to be about more than just raw speed.
This is like saying "I have a Lamborghini! But I can only drive in 40 miles a month"
The real question is, does 2mbit/s do it for you?
Because I don't know one thing you can't do on a phone [from stream music to streaming video] at 2mbit/s.
These aren't servers, they're phones.

mattykinsx said:
25mbs down and 6mbs up? Amazing!
Nothing like downloading a movie in under ten minutes... better be a good movie though since that uses up a good chunk of the 2GB you get per month.
Sorry, but it has to be about more than just raw speed.
This is like saying "I have a Lamborghini! But I can only drive in 40 miles a month"
The real question is, does 2mbit/s do it for you?
Because I don't know one thing you can't do on a phone [from stream music to streaming video] at 2mbit/s.
These aren't servers, they're phones.
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Win.
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mattykinsx said:
The real question is, does 2mbit/s do it for you?
Because I don't know one thing you can't do on a phone [from stream music to streaming video] at 2mbit/s.
These aren't servers, they're phones.
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You are very correct. If I got a consistent 2mbit/s I'd be very content, but the only time I get that is on wimax when I make a trip to best buy in the city adjacent to me. If its night time, and I'm outside, I'll get 1.5mbit/s. Daytime outside 500-600kbit/s, most of the time I'm inside so that drops to 200-400. The building I work in has wifi and when I used my Evo it wasn't an issue, but with the epic touch's horrible wifi reception there are times when my 3G signal is present and the wifi isn't x.x
Furthermore when driving around I can't even use pandora without a good 20 seconds between songs due to lag. Now maybe the same thing would be true with atnt or verizon 4g, I can't be sure since my test was isolated to one spot, but I have a good idea it would be better.

What phone are u saying is international only?
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

musclehead84 said:
What phone are u saying is international only?
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
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samsung note, but it might be coming to atnt here

Never mock the marketing names. Only mock the actual experienced speeds.
How much would it cost to go family plan on your GFs account?

Verizon's got 20mbps LTE in my house, but I'm with Sprint because they pull 2500 kbps on 3G and it's unlimited.

yeah, I think about this constantly...and it's not even the price that keeps me anymore, it's the unlimited. My use can vary between 1.5gb a month to 20gb a month depending on where I go and what I do. I don't even want to know what that would cost me on ATT or Verizon...and T-Mobile is just a non-starter due to even worse coverage than Sprint.
But lets say I get some of that ATT or Verizon 20-40mbps action. I can peg that for minutes before burning through my limit of data...that's scary. Now, okay, even sticking to my same usage pattern...no, honestly I can't even gauge that. If I didn't get cut off or lagged to death I would almost certainly consume tons more data.
Is this fear enough to keep me? Not for much longer. Do you hear that Sprint? A lot of us are thinking very seriously a bout switching. Sure, 20-40mbps is on the 'ideal-to-high' side for HDSPA+ and LTE but I would jump ship for half of that, or even a reliable quarter of that. DO YOU HEAR THAT SPRINT? I WOULD PAY MORE MONEY FOR A TIERED PLAN THAT PROMISED TO DELIVER MY DATA AT SPEEDS THAT THEIR NETWORK WOULD CONSIDER 'CONGESTED' Meanwhile we're over here on Sprint praying to get 1/16th of those speeds and failing to get even that. Sure, promise us unlimited data and then fail to provide a speed that would even allow half of us to hit the limit of the equivalent plan on Verizon or ATT...
I'm very seriously considering leaving Sprint after more than a decade. This service is bad and just getting worse. Now we have the iPhone. Big fncking deal. I hope it was worth it to Sprint, cuz it certainly wasn't to me.
Galaxy Nexus...nice phone...a slightly bigger slightly higher res version of this phone (essentially, lets not nit pick here) except it's not only on Verizon's awesome 3G network (which I'm roaming on right now), but also Verizon LTE network.....for $10 more a month and watching my data usage a little I never have to worry about getting hosed with 250-500kbps service on a constant basis....hmm, not too bad.

daneurysm said:
yeah, I think about this constantly...and it's not even the price that keeps me anymore, it's the unlimited. My use can vary between 1.5gb a month to 20gb a month depending on where I go and what I do. I don't even want to know what that would cost me on ATT or Verizon...and T-Mobile is just a non-starter due to even worse coverage than Sprint.
But lets say I get some of that ATT or Verizon 20-40mbps action. I can peg that for minutes before burning through my limit of data...that's scary. Now, okay, even sticking to my same usage pattern...no, honestly I can't even gauge that. If I didn't get cut off or lagged to death I would almost certainly consume tons more data.
Is this fear enough to keep me? Not for much longer. Do you hear that Sprint? A lot of us are thinking very seriously a bout switching. Sure, 20-40mbps is on the 'ideal-to-high' side for HDSPA+ and LTE but I would jump ship for half of that, or even a reliable quarter of that. DO YOU HEAR THAT SPRINT? I WOULD PAY MORE MONEY FOR A TIERED PLAN THAT PROMISED TO DELIVER MY DATA AT SPEEDS THAT THEIR NETWORK WOULD CONSIDER 'CONGESTED' Meanwhile we're over here on Sprint praying to get 1/16th of those speeds and failing to get even that. Sure, promise us unlimited data and then fail to provide a speed that would even allow half of us to hit the limit of the equivalent plan on Verizon or ATT...
I'm very seriously considering leaving Sprint after more than a decade. This service is bad and just getting worse. Now we have the iPhone. Big fncking deal. I hope it was worth it to Sprint, cuz it certainly wasn't to me.
Galaxy Nexus...nice phone...a slightly bigger slightly higher res version of this phone (essentially, lets not nit pick here) except it's not only on Verizon's awesome 3G network (which I'm roaming on right now), but also Verizon LTE network.....for $10 more a month and watching my data usage a little I never have to worry about getting hosed with 250-500kbps service on a constant basis....hmm, not too bad.
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I say you set the font size to 7 so Sprint can really hear you.
Oh wait, XDA is not a Sprint forum...
If your service doesn't do what you need it to, switch to one that does instead of making empty threats on a hacker forum that can't help you.

Guess I'm not the only one with insomnia at 4am...
Sent from my SPH-D710

I have to say I'm also thinking about jumping ship from Sprint. I love my ET4G but the network speeds are complete crap. I'm in Los Angeles, only 15 minutes from downtown and I get CRAP speeds everywhere I go in Los Angeles County and in Tucson. Sprint's network just plain sucks. I get slow 3G speeds and rarely even connect to 4G and 4G speeds are usually about the same as my 3G speeds if it stays connected.
I've been with them for a decade now and get pretty good pricing but I want good data now more than ever. As soon as they change from 5GB cap on data service for phones I'll be able to dump my contract without an ETF and I'll go to Verizon. Sprint's prices are only a deal if you get comparable service to other providers. http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ost-iphone-launch-45-pages-of-complaints-bad/

mattykinsx said:
I say you set the font size to 7 so Sprint can really hear you.
Oh wait, XDA is not a Sprint forum...
If your service doesn't do what you need it to, switch to one that does instead of making empty threats on a hacker forum that can't help you.
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Lol, did I hit a sensitive spot? Slow speeds gettin' ya down? LTE envy?
To think that someone from Sprint doesn't keep an eye on this place is outright stupid....though it likely isn't someone who could help. I think it's even more idiotic to think that Sprint would listen to one lone complainer when they haven't listened to hundreds of thousands yet. Hell, on their own forum they can just delete the dissenting comment.
A thread full of impotent rage is surely more useful than a dump-truck full of deleted comments.
Besides, do you think Sprint would prefer to be the discount third-rate network? If they could snap their fingers and come up with the capitol to say "make it so" and have the network be competitive I'm sure they would. They can't. I could email everyone one of the top brass at Sprint, fax it to them, have the message hand delivered to everyone that mattered and it wouldn't be any more effective.
Here I am among a group of peers who share many of the same issues, at least here my comment can't be deleted by the company it criticizes. I'm bouncing ideas around, thinking out loud, commiserating. Sometimes "just talking about it" can be cathartic and be enough to relieve the frustration...or perhaps lead to solutions.
If this thread doesn't have only messages that you like switch to one that does instead of leaving *****y replies on a hacker forum that can't help your either?
....This is the /General forum, that's why...a thread about considering leaving Sprint no less. Seems the perfect venue to me. What else did you think you'd find in here?
That said this is no empty threat. If things don't start turning around soon it's going to be pretty hard to stick around here once that LTE Nexus Galaxy comes out...I've got a couple 'outs' on my contract like a dead-spot that an air-rave couldn't fix. The Verizon signal there is fantastic and I hear it's an LTE tower too.

Overstew said:
Verizon's got 20mbps LTE in my house, but I'm with Sprint because they pull 2500 kbps on 3G and it's unlimited.
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holy cow. I wish i could just get over 200kbps in my area....
I have to drive like 8 miles to just get 800-1000kbps in Tucson. BUT if i go DEEP into tucson by the university and everything else ill get about 1600kbps - 1900kbps.
Sprints towers in my neighborhood have been on and off since August 21st. Ive dropped more calls in those few months then with the 8 years ive had them and keep roaming and at times wont even get my texts and calls.
I also have been getting a call from the same Rep every tuesday asking if signal is any better and i give the same response and he puts out a trouble ticket.
just this bs alone makes me want to get verizon (my GF has a Droid Inc 2 and she gets 2000kbps in my house. ) But the 2gb cap and the fact that for the family of smartphones with discount is $264 and alot more than i pay now.
I know its not just my phone, its every sprint phone that is in my area.
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Besides, do you think Sprint would prefer to be the discount third-rate network? If they could snap their fingers and come up with the capitol to say "make it so" and have the network be competitive I'm sure they would. They can't. I could email everyone one of the top brass at Sprint, fax it to them, have the message hand delivered to everyone that mattered and it wouldn't be any more effective.
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Now now lets look at what Sprint has bet the entire farm on. They have betted over 20 BILLION dollars just to accomodate the IPHONE and iphone alone. Yes you read that right 20 Billion dollars. What about the rest of the other phones in their lineup.
I am not knocking a thing here just saying that is Sprint can bet the farm aka 20+ Billion just for the iphone then they can put some cash toward supporting the other phones.
I am now looking at Verizon and will be pricing a plan that compares to what I have with Sprint and if its not too much more money then well sorry Sprint I am gone.
Here in my hometown Verizon is rock solid and with 4g. Sprint sucks the big arse big time and the speeds I am getting is 200K down and about 170K up. Its so bad and has gotten worse in the last year that I have to use my TWC internet connection just for data uses on my Epic 4 g touch. I am paying that extra 10 bucks a month just because of the phone and for what crap service.
Again if Sprint can bet the farm and shell out over 20 Billion dollars just for the iphone then they can invest in the rest of us. If not then maybe its time to find another provider.

Wizard220 said:
Now now lets look at what Sprint has bet the entire farm on. They have betted over 20 BILLION dollars just to accomodate the IPHONE and iphone alone. Yes you read that right 20 Billion dollars. What about the rest of the other phones in their lineup.
I am not knocking a thing here just saying that is Sprint can bet the farm aka 20+ Billion just for the iphone then they can put some cash toward supporting the other phones.
I am now looking at Verizon and will be pricing a plan that compares to what I have with Sprint and if its not too much more money then well sorry Sprint I am gone.
Here in my hometown Verizon is rock solid and with 4g. Sprint sucks the big arse big time and the speeds I am getting is 200K down and about 170K up. Its so bad and has gotten worse in the last year that I have to use my TWC internet connection just for data uses on my Epic 4 g touch. I am paying that extra 10 bucks a month just because of the phone and for what crap service.
Again if Sprint can bet the farm and shell out over 20 Billion dollars just for the iphone then they can invest in the rest of us. If not then maybe its time to find another provider.
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I agree. Granted, to stay competitive, I think they had to do whatever it took to get the iPhone... does that give them a fighting chance? At best. This wasn't capitol either, it was a promise of future sales. This, honestly, all looks terrible for Sprint in the short term and uncertain, at best, in the long term. Have you seen what their shares have been trading at?
Meanwhile I have seen the once ass-kicking network where with my LG Lotus I could pull down 2mbps on a regular basis tethered (for only $15 more than my $69.99 plan) only ~2 years later I can barely hit 500kbps for $10 on top of my $69.99 plan...and then the onslaught of iPhone users comes in to gobble up the rest. So I'm paying $5 less than I was ~2 years ago for 25% of the speed and 25% of the availability...My connections time out so much that I have to hit 'reload' so many times it's absurd. Pop on 00001.PRL to see what the other side lives with....1.5mbps all day every day, even in my apartment where I routinely get 150-500kbps. Randomly, except during peak hours (noon, give or take 6 hours) where I'm lucky to even get a connection. I absolutely need to use Opera Mini to even load a non-mobile version of a web page....how fast is it going then? Who knows, the speedtest app hangs at 'finding server'.
Things did seem to be picking up in the weeks leading up to the iPhone launch, but, that phone has made any gains moot. If in the next month I don't see some real action it's over...I'm going *sigh* Verizon. Paying too much for data you do get is preferable to paying anything for data you don't get.

I've wanted to switch for 6 or more months now. The only thing keeping me is the Google Voice/Sprint integration. Being able to check and answer all my texts and calls online regardless of where I am geographically or what state my phone is in is huge for me.
I'd easily leave and tolerate a 2GB cap that I actually have the capacity to reach, than deal with poor service even in the midst of an AirRave. I too am experiencing abysmal network speed in a decent sized American city.
I'd also love to tap in to the international developement base as far as having a popular unlocked GSM phone like the (original) GSII goes.

dmexs said:
I've wanted to switch for 6 or more months now. The only thing keeping me is the Google Voice/Sprint integration. Being able to check and answer all my texts and calls online regardless of where I am geographically or what state my phone is in is huge for me.
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Just port your number out to Google Voice. I did that with my last phone when I got out of contract for free. It cost $20 and took 3 days. They still haven't gottem MMS straightened out yet but in the past week they made it a priority...currently Sprint-to-Sprint MMS works. But I just sent a mass-text to everyone that would even send me MMS (few people, honestly, 8 or 9 maybe?) and told them to send MMS to the new number. So now I get that same integration no matter where I go. So now all voicemails and text to that number go to my phone, web browser GV tab and my tablet. It's insanely handy and totally worth the $20 and minor hassle.
I myself was thinking about going to Verizon for the Nexus Prime...and they still have month-to-month plans if you buy the device outright. That way if Sprint happens to get their **** together and fixes this network up--or if the tiered data plans end up being too much to deal with--I can just bail.
EDIT: I just looked into Verizon:
450 Minutes : $39.99
250 Messages : $5.00
2GB Data : $30.00 = $74.99 a month
or 5GB Data : $50.00 = $94.99 a month
...not to bad if I can keep it under 2GB, palatable for 5GB plan.... I'm not thrilled about it, at all. But, to get usable data on a month-to-month plan I'll just might take it.
T-Mobile:
Unlimited Everything + 2gb "full speed" = $79.99 a month
Unlimited Everything + 5gb "full speed" = $89.99 a month
...not too shabby, but, they have no compelling phones right now and even though I hear their 3G and "4G" (aka 3.5G) is pretty damned fast I'm not so sure about their coverage
AT&T:
450 Minutes : $39.99
2GB Data : $25.00 = $64.99 a month
4GB Data + tethering: $45 = $74.99 a month
though they don't seem to have any txting packages except the $20 unlimited, which is ridiculous. that's fine for me, I use GVoice, but, how to MMS count, just data? Their coverage around here ain't bad and their data speeds are very fast from what I hear.
hmmm

And lets not forget, Sprint has taken the "first" step toward teired data plans. Yes if you have mobil plan with them ( not cell phone ) you now have a teired data plan. before you pay a flat rate and got unlimited.
To me this is the last step before teired data plans comes to us cell phone users. With all the changes that Sprint has done this will be the final nail in its coffen. If Sprint does roll out teired data plans there will be zero reason to stay with them. Why because you can pay about the same price maybe just a little more and get solid service, solid data rates.

If sprint losses unlimited data I'd be gone. My 3g is miserable in Toledo 200-300 kbps. i'm never off wifi anymore.
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International One X in U.S. on Straight Talk = super cheap plan ?

My Wife and I are currently on Verizon, we both have the Galaxy Nexus, but the monthly bill is not cheap, w/tax is about $220 per month for both phone full unlimited plan. Looking to get into a cheaper carrier, but not just ATT or Sprint, etc...which will save a bit, but not a ton, but have heard about some no name brand carriers that are extremely cheaper, like this Straight Talk.
Some nice member on the Android Central Forums, said he had to buy the international One X online for full retail price of like $600 or so, but that he has it activated on this Straight Talk plan, which is only $45 per month for unlimited minutes and unlimited data.
Has anyone here done this, and how does it work ? I mean $45 per month for full unlimited is shockingly cheap, whats the catch ? Why aren't more people in the U.S. doing this ? If it's too good to be true, usually means there is something up, what am I missing here ?

AFAIK, the only catch is you can't even touch 2gb of data in a month. Don't know what their threshold is, as the threads I've seen, the op's couldn't get that out of them and got banned from the network with only using 2-2.5gb of data a month.
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ZeroRilix said:
AFAIK, the only catch is you can't even touch 2gb of data in a month. Don't know what their threshold is, as the threads I've seen, the op's couldn't get that out of them and got banned from the network with only using 2-2.5gb of data a month.
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Well my data usage is pretty small, if I am watching you tube or movies it is 90% on Wifi at home or office, and when outside doing sales, I need phone for calls...texts...e-mails reading PDF's etc...navigation...
My Nexus the four months I have had it, has never once been over 2gb, I have the 4gb plan.

i have the one x on ST run super well

Yeah I'm going to buy the One X and put it on Straight Talk unlimited. Straight Talk is affiliated with AT&T, Verizon, and Tmobile. Most people say it's recommended to not push 2gb a month, while others said they were going past it no issues. Just don't start downloading large files, stream movies, or tether too much.
I think the plan for you and your wife would be perfect and your not going to be stuck on a 2 year contract.

UnlockedNand said:
Yeah I'm going to buy the One X and put it on Straight Talk unlimited. Straight Talk is affiliated with AT&T, Verizon, and Tmobile. Most people say it's recommended to not push 2gb a month, while others said they were going past it no issues. Just don't start downloading large files, stream movies, or tether too much.
I think the plan for you and your wife would be perfect and your not going to be stuck on a 2 year contract.
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So please walk this newb threw this please. I buy the One X from here ? Is this the correct model I would need to work on Straight Talk ?
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-one-x-android-smartphone-polar-white-unlocked-229903/
For Straight Talk I am confused with which option to choose ? The "unlocked" or "ATT" compatible phone ?
http://www.straighttalk.com/ShopSims
And then which SIM ? The smaller one they say for newer phones like the iPhone4, or the larger SIM ?
And then back to plans, it would be $45 unlimited for each phone ? So for a phone plan for my Wife and I would be $90 per month ?
Last question would be about roaming ? I am in Chicago, and travel the local suburbs, rarely going beyond that. So it looks like the Chicago land is well covered under Straight Talk ? But what happens if I go into a non Straight Talk area ? Does it just drop service, and no network, or does it piggy back on to a main carrier ? And if it does piggyback do I get raped on high charges ?

Zorachus said:
So please walk this newb threw this please. I buy the One X from here ? Is this the correct model I would need to work on Straight Talk ?
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-one-x-android-smartphone-polar-white-unlocked-229903/
For Straight Talk I am confused with which option to choose ? The "unlocked" or "ATT" compatible phone ?
http://www.straighttalk.com/ShopSims
And then which SIM ? The smaller one they say for newer phones like the iPhone4, or the larger SIM ?
And then back to plans, it would be $45 unlimited for each phone ? So for a phone plan for my Wife and I would be $90 per month ?
Last question would be about roaming ? I am in Chicago, and travel the local suburbs, rarely going beyond that. So it looks like the Chicago land is well covered under Straight Talk ? But what happens if I go into a non Straight Talk area ? Does it just drop service, and no network, or does it piggy back on to a main carrier ? And if it does piggyback do I get raped on high charges ?
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Yes that model will work for Straight Talk. It lists under Straight Talk's website that the phone must operate on 850/1900 Mhz bands which it does. You choose the unlocked option since this is not a AT&t variant of the HTC One X. Then you choose micro sim: the top of the phone is where the micro sim goes. $90 for both of you on unlimited is correct, however the first month you're buying the sim card with the unlimited plan will be $120 for both of you.
They do allow free voice + sms roaming for free, but the web they don't allow (terms & conditions). I'm not entirely sure, but if they do they do it wouldn't be a lot of allowance. If you do overuse web roaming, they will notify you and cancel your service if it continues.

That's some very good single/2-line cost. It'd be nice if they come up with family unlimited plans.

Thank-you, everyone for the advice so far much appreciated.
So the big question would be coverage for my area. I live in Chicago and according their map, it looks like whole area is blanketed in coverage, but I have no idea how accurate that truly is ? And is service 3G only ? No HSPA+ ?

Zorachus said:
Thank-you, everyone for the advice so far much appreciated.
So the big question would be coverage for my area. I live in Chicago and according their map, it looks like whole area is blanketed in coverage, but I have no idea how accurate that truly is ? And is service 3G only ? No HSPA+ ?
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If you live in an area where they have 1900mhz bands (4g) then your phone will take full advantage of that. Since you're telling me it's blanketed in coverage, then there's a good chance that you'll be one of the luckier ones with 4g on simple talk.

I been using Straight Talk in SoCal for about a week now and have been pretty happy with the service. Selecting "Unlocked Phone" gives you the AT&T compatible SIM by default. I get on average 3Mbs down and 1.5Mbs up, less at commute times, but I think on par with most direct AT&T subscribers here. FYI, I had connection problems when I entered the proxy specified on their setup instructions. If you have long connection initialization times, or SpeedTest repeatedly fails, try leaving the Proxy field in APN setting blank.

raster, how is the One X on straight talk ? great deal ?

Be careful with Straight Talk...I've been trying to get my international HTC One X to work with their SIM card and it has now been over 3 weeks, 3 SIM cards, and over 8 hours with a stupid customer service reps that repeats "One moment sir, I'm checking my system" every 10 seconds!!! They are idiots and have no idea what they are doing!
Be warned about Straight Talk!!! I'm almost tempted to go to ATT just too be done with this because Edge on TMO USA is unbearable!
Damn it! The things I am going through just for this damn phone!!!
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Again...I HIGHLY DO NOT (repeat DO NOT) RECOMMEND STRAIGHT TALK!!!!

it works fine for me. although i didnt know i was giving up navigation. i will have to call their customer service for directions telling them google nav stopped working...for jokes.

I like Straight Talk a lot on my HOX, but I might switch to Tmobile $30 prepaid plan.

[INFO]AT&T Users Beware

Just wanted to give people a heads up on my horror story with AT&T. I don't want anyone else to wind up in my situation. I just received a message stating I had been charged in excess of $100 dollars in data charges and please call AT&T to prevent service disruptions or future charges.
Background: I have had unlimited Data since 2008 because I had an iPhone 3g. In the meantime I've used several Android devices. On the 9th of last month I decided I was ready for a new device. I did some searching and decided to get a Galaxy Note. I used it briefly until the GNex was announced by Google in the US. I decided to buy the GNex as well and return the device I was least satisfied with. After some use, I loved the LTE but decided I preferred the community behind the GNex and the AOSP roms. So on the 7th of this month I returned the Note before my 30 days.
Issue: The drama starts on the 7th. After returning my Note my unlimited data plan was dropped without telling me because I was no longer using an AT&T recognized smartphone. I was careful to ask in store if returning the Note would affect my unlimited data, and the salesperson said it would not. Since I no longer have a data plan, AT&T has been charging me $1 per megabyte. So in two days I have racked up over $250 dollars in data charges. The AT&T reps refuse to reactivate my Unlimited data until I put my SIM in (and presumably keep it in) an AT&T recognized smartphone. I discussed with the rep and she stated that I can use smartphone data on a non-AT&T smartphone if the system recognizes it. The Catch-22 here is that the system only recognizes AT&T sold devices. So now I have to put my SIM back in my old Infuse and contact the Rep again to have them reverse my charges and reactivate my unlimited data. I am now afraid to use the GNex for fear of losing my data again.
tl:dr: AT&T dropped my unlimited data because their system doesn't recognize the GNex as a compatible smartphone. They won't reactivate my data plan until my SIM is in an AT&T recognized smartphone.
Update: I got a better service rep today and she restored my Unlimited data and confirmed that using an unlocked device is allowed, but the combination of returning an AT&T device then picking up an unknown IMEI may be to blame. I got a verbal agreement to reverse the charges, but the rep was unable to do so until a bill with them is generated. So I will call back on my bill date to confirm.

Tell them its BS, as I've used Euro phones on AT&T for years and they never dropped my data.
Also, I've since left AT&T in December for Verizon, the network seems better/more stable, but the nexus has had voice quality issues for 5 months and they've been procrastinating on fixing it. (yay for xda, which has solved most of my issues)

VinceT3 said:
Tell them its BS, as I've used Euro phones on AT&T for years and they never dropped my data.
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What gets me is that this is clearly a customer service rep that messed me up. I had the SIM in the GNex prior to the 7th when I returned the Note. My data wasn't changed until after I returned the Note.
Also I had an N1 for over a year just after it was released. This never happened then. My suspicion is that I got a bad combo of a stupid rep and AT&T trying to crack down on users with unlimited plans.

I have at&t also. They are a bunch of money grubbing... well...
Here is your solution...
If this is your own line, itll still work, but is cheaper with a family plan.
Step one: Quit buying ATT Branded Phones. This is stupid, you pay more over the course of use. 30 bucks for 3 gigs? fuuuuck that.
Step two: get a IMEI From ANY Other non ATT Phone. Buy a 20 dollar junker off ebay. It HAS TO be a dumb phone. with a WAP Browser.
Step three: register that with ATT, tell them you want the wap data plan for your dumb phone. This is your primary and only phone as far as they are concerned. With a family plan, Unlimited WAP is 10 bucks. On your own, its 15.
Step four: wait a few days for your account to settle, or month, whenever your bill stabilizes. this is important. Dont make any more changes, as you can get hosed on price at this point.
Step five: Buy your GNEX. or Korean Galaxy Note. Or any other non ATT phone.
Step Six: Swap Sim's and setup the APN's if your rom does not come with them.
Step Seven: Enjoy your new unlimited data 10/15 dollar a month data plan on your smart phone.
a important note: Dont show any asshole at ATT your phone. Dont even mention it. Tell them you have a dumb phone. If they ask to do trouble shooting, play along. Dont do that ****. If they press for what phone you have, tell them you have a old ass Nokia. If they say your lying, tell em where to shove it.
I have 5 lines on my family plan. 1400 minutes. Unlimited messaging. Unlimited Data on all lines. 194 a month. And you get the "A list", free calls to any other network phone numbers you specify, up to 10. Needless to say, i hardly use my anytime. The only headache is getting the other idiots to pay me, even though its 38 bucks a person... peices of ****.
Have fun, dont be dumb with the ATT Reps. Make no mistake, No matter how smart you are, Stupidity will ALWAYS outsmart you.

I've never had this issue before. So what I assume happened is that the Rep cleared my IMEI on my account rather than reverting it to the one that was there before the Note.
I never had an issue when using my N1. I've never had an issue when using a dumbphone temporarily (when traveling or something like hiking where I don't want to risk damage) nor when testing my SIM in friend's phones. My guess is all other times AT&T account just used the IMEI on file, not the one it detects. If there is no IMEI on file it probably detects yours and then uses it.
Still, after I talk to the Rep tomorrow and hopefully get this cleared up I am sort of afraid to use my GNex again. I am seriously considering T-Mobile and seeing if I can get them to waive my ETF since I can't use my phone.

Also advise them they it is ILLEGAL for them to change your plan without your consent. They will correct the billing error and fix it for you. (My friend had a 6000 dollar bill for the same reason, they ate the bill as they should)

Just one of the many reasons I left AT&T 3 years ago and went to T-Mobile.

If you follow what i told you to do, you'll be a much happier ATT user... LOL
Forget the current IMEI on file. it does not matter. you need to update it to one that ATT does not have in thier database.
Trust me on this. Im a internet professional.

wyefye said:
If you follow what i told you to do, you'll be a much happier ATT user... LOL
Forget the current IMEI on file. it does not matter. you need to update it to one that ATT does not have in thier database.
Trust me on this. Im a internet professional.
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Well they need to have one on file. You simply had them add the dumbphone as their IMEI on file so that when you swapped your SIM you kept that data plan.
They tell me that IMEI is unrecgonized as well. Because of that they dropped my smartphone unlimited plan. I am not trying to go to the the $15 dumbphone plan because I want to be able to keep my unlimited data if I ever choose to go LTE. 5Gb of LTE for $30 before throttling is pretty amazing.

Well they need to have one on file. You simply had them add the dumbphone as their IMEI on file so that when you swapped your SIM you kept that data plan.
They tell me that IMEI is unrecgonized as well. Because of that they dropped my smartphone unlimited plan. I am not trying to go to the the $15 dumbphone plan because I want to be able to keep my unlimited data if I ever choose to go LTE. 5Gb of LTE for $30 before throttling is pretty amazing.
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What? you'll be transferring to a unlimited plan.
also, you realize that ATT 4G is just HSPA+, right? Everyone gets this already. they just changed the speed the 3G runs at. Plenty of documents sources on this. This is the EXACT reason ATT wanted to buy T-mobile; they have the 4G LTE Spectrum for GSM - Registered to them. In the Buyout, ATT would have acquired it, and Charged us higher prices... for upgrades... though the infrastructure already existed.
If you want REAL 4G, go for VZ.
Unrecognized is not the same as "Unsupported". you dont need a recognized phone to use thier "4G" services. You do need a recognized phone for them to tick that checkbox so you can PRETEND you have 4G, and pay more for the facade.
Your Choice.
p.s. 30 bucks for 5gb is NOT Amazing. its a ****ing scam.
OCZ RevoDrive SSD 960GB @ $3,149(most expensive SSD currently)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742
$3.2 a GB.
ATT 5GB
$8 a GB
8 bucks a GB for false 4G? Yeah.....

The issue started when you purchased an at&t Mobility branded Galaxy Note, that IMEI became associated with your account and the DATA plan became associated to that IMEI (this is the key).
If you had simply removed the SIM from the Galaxy Note (and NOT RETURNED IT), placed it into your GNex there would not have been any issues as at&t's network could care less as you had a DATA plan and the GNex comes back as unknown to at&t's internal IMEI database.
It was the act of returning the device (which you have every right to do and I would have done the same) and not replacing it with another branded device that caused your DATA plan to fall off your account. Essentially, when you returned your NOTE, the computer saw the device removed from your account and since another device was not added to your account, the system dumped your DATA plan because nothing was re-attached to the account. If the GNex was recognized internally by at&t's systems and that IMEI was associated as a smartphone on your account, your DATA plan would have been preserved.
I had a similar issue and it took a bunch of labor on my part to fix the issue including speaking with an Engineer at at&t Mobility who had to work within the system to re-add my DATA plan without attaching an at&t Mobility branded device.
Eventually he was able to get things corrected as best I understand it, he had to find my device in the "global database" and then pull it into at&t's internal database and code it as a smartphone so that the system would re-attach my DATA plan. However, he said that some non-carrier branded smartphones do show up in at&t's internal database, but it is up to a certain department to add them and apparently that department selectively chooses devices.
I am not sure what to say, I have the luxury of working for an employer who has a personal at&t Mobility Corp Sales Rep who we can call when things go pear shaped and whose general job is to ensure that we are happy with at&t. When I had my DATA plan disappear she cut through the red tape and got me in contact with correct people to fix the issue.
I had tried to deal with normal CS at first and that was totally useless, not that I am surprised, normal CS is only capable of dealing with a certain select issues, not back end engineering which requires a different skill set and an understanding of how the system functions as a whole (this generally requires somebody with a specialized degree) to fix more complicated tasks.
Dan

wyefye said:
What? you'll be transferring to a unlimited plan.
also, you realize that ATT 4G is just HSPA+, right? Everyone gets this already. they just changed the speed the 3G runs at. Plenty of documents sources on this. This is the EXACT reason ATT wanted to buy T-mobile; they have the 4G LTE Spectrum for GSM - Registered to them. In the Buyout, ATT would have acquired it, and Charged us higher prices... for upgrades... though the infrastructure already existed.
If you want REAL 4G, go for VZ.
Unrecognized is not the same as "Unsupported". you dont need a recognized phone to use thier "4G" services. You do need a recognized phone for them to tick that checkbox so you can PRETEND you have 4G, and pay more for the facade.
Your Choice.
p.s. 30 bucks for 5gb is NOT Amazing. its a ****ing scam.
OCZ RevoDrive SSD 960GB @ $3,149(most expensive SSD currently)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742
$3.2 a GB.
ATT 5GB
$8 a GB
8 bucks a GB for false 4G? Yeah.....
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AT&T is deploying (and is fairly far along) an LTE network. IDK what speeds are like, but it is definitely not the same as their HSPA+ network.

AT&T is deploying (and is fairly far along) an LTE network. IDK what speeds are like, but it is definitely not the same as their HSPA+ network.
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I believe you, but... when i look at ATT's att.com/network page, and see advertised LTE HSPA+ 4G, im far from inspired to switch.

GSM standards allow any GSM device on any GSM network. End of story.
Contact a lawyer and watch AT&T squirm. They are everything wrong with the wireless industry and overdue for a reality check.
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At&t sucks! I'll pay any other carrier double before I ever send At&t a check again. You can get those fees waved, you just have to talk to the right person. If you get someone stuck on no just hang up and call back. If its easier on you to put your sim in your other phone and then swap it back to the GN after your data plan is restored than you should do that.

Its easier to call retentions. If they can't fix it, they'll find somebody who can. Usually.
let it be.

wyefye said:
I have at&t also. They are a bunch of money grubbing... well...
Here is your solution...
If this is your own line, itll still work, but is cheaper with a family plan.
Step one: Quit buying ATT Branded Phones. This is stupid, you pay more over the course of use. 30 bucks for 3 gigs? fuuuuck that.
Step two: get a IMEI From ANY Other non ATT Phone. Buy a 20 dollar junker off ebay. It HAS TO be a dumb phone. with a WAP Browser.
Step three: register that with ATT, tell them you want the wap data plan for your dumb phone. This is your primary and only phone as far as they are concerned. With a family plan, Unlimited WAP is 10 bucks. On your own, its 15.
Step four: wait a few days for your account to settle, or month, whenever your bill stabilizes. this is important. Dont make any more changes, as you can get hosed on price at this point.
Step five: Buy your GNEX. or Korean Galaxy Note. Or any other non ATT phone.
Step Six: Swap Sim's and setup the APN's if your rom does not come with them.
Step Seven: Enjoy your new unlimited data 10/15 dollar a month data plan on your smart phone.
a important note: Dont show any asshole at ATT your phone. Dont even mention it. Tell them you have a dumb phone. If they ask to do trouble shooting, play along. Dont do that ****. If they press for what phone you have, tell them you have a old ass Nokia. If they say your lying, tell em where to shove it.
I have 5 lines on my family plan. 1400 minutes. Unlimited messaging. Unlimited Data on all lines. 194 a month. And you get the "A list", free calls to any other network phone numbers you specify, up to 10. Needless to say, i hardly use my anytime. The only headache is getting the other idiots to pay me, even though its 38 bucks a person... peices of ****.
Have fun, dont be dumb with the ATT Reps. Make no mistake, No matter how smart you are, Stupidity will ALWAYS outsmart you.
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I did EXACTLY this when I bought my Nokia 5800 xpressmusic and my Nokia C6-01.. works like a charm and the speeds are the same.

wyefye said:
What? you'll be transferring to a unlimited plan.
also, you realize that ATT 4G is just HSPA+, right? Everyone gets this already. they just changed the speed the 3G runs at. Plenty of documents sources on this. This is the EXACT reason ATT wanted to buy T-mobile; they have the 4G LTE Spectrum for GSM - Registered to them. In the Buyout, ATT would have acquired it, and Charged us higher prices... for upgrades... though the infrastructure already existed.
If you want REAL 4G, go for VZ.
Unrecognized is not the same as "Unsupported". you dont need a recognized phone to use thier "4G" services. You do need a recognized phone for them to tick that checkbox so you can PRETEND you have 4G, and pay more for the facade.
Your Choice.
p.s. 30 bucks for 5gb is NOT Amazing. its a ****ing scam.
OCZ RevoDrive SSD 960GB @ $3,149(most expensive SSD currently)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742
$3.2 a GB.
ATT 5GB
$8 a GB
8 bucks a GB for false 4G? Yeah.....
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This is false information. AT&T LTE exists and is very real. HSPA+ and LTE are very different on AT&T. With my Infuse and GNex (and the Note when not in LTE) I get about 5-7Mbps. My area has LTE and when in LTE coverage on the Note I was regularly getting 35Mbps or higher. My highest speed was 52Mbps.
Also comparing the cost of storage on an SSD to the cost of internet bandwidth is a nonsense comparison. Solid state storage should always be cheaper than data transfer. Why didn't you compare a 500Gb platter? That should run you about $0.10 per gigabyte. And you've missed the mark on the AT&T pricing we are discussing. The LTE unlimited still costs $30 and throttles at 5Gb. So that is actually $6 per Gb unthrottled. Try comparing it to home internet providers maybe.

wyefye said:
What? you'll be transferring to a unlimited plan.
also, you realize that ATT 4G is just HSPA+, right? Everyone gets this already. they just changed the speed the 3G runs at. Plenty of documents sources on this. This is the EXACT reason ATT wanted to buy T-mobile; they have the 4G LTE Spectrum for GSM - Registered to them. In the Buyout, ATT would have acquired it, and Charged us higher prices... for upgrades... though the infrastructure already existed.
If you want REAL 4G, go for VZ.
Unrecognized is not the same as "Unsupported". you dont need a recognized phone to use thier "4G" services. You do need a recognized phone for them to tick that checkbox so you can PRETEND you have 4G, and pay more for the facade.
Your Choice.
p.s. 30 bucks for 5gb is NOT Amazing. its a ****ing scam.
OCZ RevoDrive SSD 960GB @ $3,149(most expensive SSD currently)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742
$3.2 a GB.
ATT 5GB
$8 a GB
8 bucks a GB for false 4G? Yeah.....
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AT&T 4G LTE is much faster than Verizon 4G LTE in my experience. (I have both)

This is false information. AT&T LTE exists and is very real. HSPA+ and LTE are very different on AT&T. With my Infuse and GNex (and the Note when not in LTE) I get about 5-7Mbps. My area has LTE and when in LTE coverage on the Note I was regularly getting 35Mbps or higher. My highest speed was 52Mbps.
Also comparing the cost of storage on an SSD to the cost of internet bandwidth is a nonsense comparison. Solid state storage should always be cheaper than data transfer. Why didn't you compare a 500Gb platter? That should run you about $1 per gigabyte. And you've missed the mark on the AT&T pricing we are discussing. The LTE unlimited still costs $30 and throttles at 5Gb. So that is actually $6 per Gb unthrottled. Try comparing it to home internet providers maybe.
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Your right, it is "Real", and does "Exist". Congrats. Not all of us live in the city, though.
I chose a SSD simply because the platter device is cheaper, for one. two, Lets compare a strictly home based internet data plan, to price per GB on ATT. Lets go with Comcast XFINITY since their similar in throttling and whatnot.
50meg is 114 a month, then add taxes and fees.
the month of May is 2,678,400 seconds...
convert 50mbps to MB a second is 6.25 MB/s
2,678,400 Seconds x 6.25MB/s
16,740,000 MB in the month...
16,347.6562 GB in a month...
15.964508 TB in a month...(just for scale)
Total cost per GB of home internet provided you are fully maxed out and no throttling....
0.0069622572370832 cents per GB.
Compared to ATT's...
$8 dollars per GB?!?! (op's 5BG)
But... lets not forget operating costs, upgrade fees, costs of network towers... and all that expensive throttling equipment. needs to be payed for somehow, right?
dont forget how much the CEO's Pockets cost!
Also, in reality, you cant compare HD's or Home internet... they are not the same technology....

Verizon vs T Mobile plan

My current T mobile plan is: Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited Text, and Unlimited Data (2GB of 4g, then throttled) for $79.99/month, plus a discount, so I pay $78 every month.
Now I never looked at Verizon plans because I have always heard they were so much more expensive.. so tonight I decide to look into it.. and I don't know If I am looking at them wrong or what..
But I see a plan.. SHARE EVERYTHING UNL TALK & TEXT 4GB $70 0612
Which I would read as Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited Text, and 4GB of LTE/4G Data for $70???
Is this correct or what? If it is that means I can get more with Verizon for less than T-Mobile? OR am I not seeing some extra fees and what not?
and BTW, with the 2GB on T mobile, I never go over, the most I used was about 1.8GB a month.. so I don't need unlimited data.

I just made a plan through their mobile website and it looks like they charge an extra $40 per smartphone on top of the plan price. The total for a 4Gb plan would be $110.
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Their "share everything" plans are a great concept, but you probably overlooked the device fee ($40 per smartphone).
They charge a fixed fee for each device that ties into it, and then all devices share all data/voice/text allotments and you simply purchase enough for your combined usage.
It's a great concept for families where everyone uses just a little more than one tier gives them and so instead of all of them having to pay for the next higher tier, they can aggregate and their average ends up with a cheaper combined tier. As an example, if they have a tier at 500MB and everyone uses 600-700MB then they might all have to individually upgrade to the 2GB plan. But, if they combine then they can get away with a single 2GB amongst 3 family members.
One of the big benefits for individual users is that you can share data between your smartphone and your tablet and the tablet only had a $10 fee to buy in. Typically you access things on your tablet or your smartphone, so the usage on both is usually not much higher than the usage on a single plan with one device. Essentially, you could probably get a tablet and add it to your plan for only $10 a month total.
But, at $40 per smartphone I'm not sure how much of a boon it is for families compared to the "add a tablet for $10/month" scenario.

Wow! That's a joke! 40$ a month just because you're using one of their devices, that doesn't even make sense.
So after all the mobile is cheaper
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Yea the plans are REALLY deceptive. I think it's $30 per dumbphone and $40 per smart ON TOP of the $70 for the plan. So even when you share with a flip it's almost like adding a whole nother plan. Tmo is cool because you can add lines and NOT give them data/texting.

Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.

joederp said:
Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Dunno what you're smoking, I set up a wifi hotspot with my S3 and tether my Nexus 7 to it all the time, no problems streaming hd from Netflix.
Actually, I guess it's all depending on your market. I never have any issues anywhere around the Minneapolis area.

joederp said:
Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Uhhh.. grandfathered with data for one phone 2GB and two flips was $140, shared plan was $170. I went with tmo for $95.
Ohh you said PER PERSON. The difference is huge still.

Yeah I'll just stay away from them. To get the same plan with Verizon that I have with the mobile it would be 100$ plus tax... And right now I pay 78.
When I renew my contract I'll most likely get the 500mins (I checked my bills for the last three months and I never go over) unlimited text and unlimited 4G for 79.99$.
Orrr I might switch to simple mobile... Unlimited everything 50$ a month and they use the t mobile towers. I've had them before and had no problems.
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Verizon is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Sprint is probably cheaper than Tmobile for the most part + unlimited, but it's very deceptive advertising as their LTE is hardly rolled out anywhere. Their 3G is almost like Dialup too. Just keep Tmobile.

Aria807 said:
Verizon is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Sprint is probably cheaper than Tmobile for the most part + unlimited, but it's very deceptive advertising as their LTE is hardly rolled out anywhere. Their 3G is almost like Dialup too. Just keep Tmobile.
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Yeah I've heard plenty bad things about sprint data. Yep ill most likely stick with t mobile or switch to their son simple mobile lol
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Crisisx1 said:
Yeah I've heard plenty bad things about sprint data. Yep ill most likely stick with t mobile or switch to their son simple mobile lol
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I've used Sprint for years and their data is PAINFULLY slow. Even "4g" was giving me 1ish Mbps. I switched to VZW and the service is awesome but the cost is really bothering me. I'm currently on VZW paying $75.00 a month for 4gigs of data 450min and 1000 text messages. Every month I go over in texts and it pushes me to $80ish
I just ordered a S2 from Tmo and I'm going to check out the $30.00 prepaid for a couple of weeks to see how well the service compares to VZW. Upon telling my boss this he laughed and told me Tmo sucks in our area and he just switched to VZW from Tmo so I might be stuck on VZW for the forseable future.

joe_sun said:
I've used Sprint for years and their data is PAINFULLY slow. Even "4g" was giving me 1ish Mbps. I switched to VZW and the service is awesome but the cost is really bothering me. I'm currently on VZW paying $75.00 a month for 4gigs of data 450min and 1000 text messages. Every month I go over in texts and it pushes me to $80ish
I just ordered a S2 from Tmo and I'm going to check out the $30.00 prepaid for a couple of weeks to see how well the service compares to VZW. Upon telling my boss this he laughed and told me Tmo sucks in our area and he just switched to VZW from Tmo so I might be stuck on VZW for the forseable future.
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I would switch to Verizon but they are just too expensive. 2gb data unlimited mins and text=100$ plus tax.
On tmobile I get that for 78$. And don't have to worry about over fees because t mobile just throttles you. The highest speed test I got was 30mb. But average is 10mb and about 2.5 up
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If you want cheap T-Mobile is the way to go. The 2 line unlimited plan for $99 cant be beat, unless you go prepaid. But you probably wouldn't be in the s3 forums if you were wanting prepaid.

If you haven't, try to see if you can get any work discounts. It would probably help a bit on costs.

Lol don't know why people make such a big stink over Verizon. I had them for the last 8-9 years and I switched to Tmobile. It was easier than expected honestly. Sure their network isn't as good as Verizon but it's not so distinctly different where if you put the same phone and did a Web browsing test that someone would tell a difference. If I am downloading a huge rom then it's noticeable but for forum surfing and websites (don't do much more than that at work since... Well I'm working lol and I have wifi at home) its just fine.
It's funny because if you knew me then you would know this doesn't sound like me because I am a spec freak... Also it isn't the cost that bothers me. I work 60 hours a week and I can afford Verizon its just the lack of value. Maybe it's because Verizon doesn't give a **** about its customers and they don't try to hide it. Maybe it's because I do work so many damn hours and if I don't see value in my spending I won't buy it. Idk. Either way I'm thrilled with Tmobile and have no reason to go back. Also, I'm in a sort of crappy Tmobile area where everywhere around me gets 5-25mbs and I'm in the one patch that gets less than 2 lol
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For 3 lines with ins.:
Sprint had me at $222 (15% off)
Verizon would have been $228 (25% off data)
Tmobile has me at $180 (15% off)
The speeds are way better than what I had on Sprint even with the EvoLTE and the download speeds are on par with every Verizon phone I have come across. Verizon's upload speeds are faster (like 5 to 2)
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AB33 said:
For 3 lines with ins.:
Sprint had me at $222 (15% off)
Verizon would have been $228 (25% off data)
Tmobile has me at $180 (15% off)
Tbe speeds are way better that what I had on Sprint even the EvoLTE and the download speeds are on par with every Verizon phone I come accross. Verizon's upload speeds are faster (like 5 to 2)
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Just left sprint for t-mobile, so far so good, I live in Northern New jersey work in queens, haven't had any signal issues yet, strong signal indoors. Defintely a better data experience. I can actuality get a signal and use at my job in LIC. Nice to have functional service. Still have to test in philly where I go a lot, but for right now sprint < tmobile.

akasan said:
Just left sprint for t-mobile, so far so good, I live in Northern New jersey work in queens, haven't had any signal issues yet, strong signal indoors. Defintely a better data experience. I can actuality get a signal and use at my job in LIC. Nice to have functional service. Still have to test in philly where I go a lot, but for right now sprint < tmobile.
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Yeah I'm with sprint now. I switched from tmobile from being customer for 6 years. And I gotta say worst mistake!! I'm so upset with the speeds. I mean I cant even get Pandora to work.
Needless to say I will be turning this pretty gs3 back to best buy and cancel my sprint. And reactivate my T-Mobile account.
Can't believe I shot my self in the foot like that.
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For some who don't know T-Mobile is undergoing a huge network upgrade so expect some big changes soon with service its only getting better from here guys jump on the Tmo express

T mobile impressions

I just switched from att to tmo because i was able to get the phone cheaper on value plan (250 down and 20 a month) and mainly because they are the only ones who have good unlimited data, sprint sucks, who knows when lte will eventually be available for sprint...
The plans are really cheap! im on the value plan because i bought the phone outright, but i moved my mom and dad over from att family plan too.
before we were paying about 340 for all 3 unlimited everything, now it comes to 177, and we were able to get 8 percent off every bill because of my fathers company which happens to be on their list. And, we can add my sister for free for 500 minutes and unlimited night, weekends, and mobile to mobile and text.
The question was service, but i didnt care and my parents said that to save like 150 a month, they dont care either. i live in brooklyn, ny. service seems to be pretty good. The data is amazing! Honestly, you dont need more than 5-10 mbps and i get solid 10-15 or sometimes 8. thats amazing! who needs effing LTE! and according to tmo store employees theyll have lte next year.
From what i hear, customer service sucks... i havent had that yet....
My mother does sales, so she drives all over the tri-state area not just in heavily populated areas so it remains to be seen how happy she will be with it... but still Its so freaking cheap it doesnt matter
anyone else's thoughts

We have been with T-Mobile going on 8 years now. Currently have 5 phones on the Classic Unlimited Family plan. The coverage is great, with few dropped calls. Customer service is good, but their Automated Directory is a pain in the [email protected]#$. 1 suggestion to get to a live agent is to say "Loyalty" when asked what you want to do. My biggest grip with them, and I'm sure this goes for the majority of carriers is their Tech Support is worthless.

I switched after 5 years with Sprint. Since they keep dropping support for the device I purchased it was time for a change. Plus with all the same features on the plan I had, I'll pay 147 at Tmo vs 194 at sprint.
And Hspa+ 42 is soooooooo much faster the the wimax I had on my Photon
noted for future reference on my Note 2

I had switched to Sprint for the EVO 3D and the plan at the time seemed like a good deal.. biggest mistake ever leaving T-Mobile.. 3 months of painful service from Sprint... they canceled both contracts, kept the phone, sold em and moved the wife and I back to T-Mobile. Not planning on leaving for the foreseeable future.

The gf had an AT&T iphone and after 2 years and no longer in contract..., she wanted to cancel her $30 dollar dataplan and continue to just use the phone. They said No to her and that she must keep the dataplan. She said she would go to T-mobile. They didn't care and dare her.
So now she's on T-mobile with her iphone, no data plan required. T-mobile is very flexible.
Also Sim based phone > CDMA phone all day. Not only is the resale value higher, you can actually use it outside of the US.

I've been a TMO customer for 10 years. I would disagree with the poster that said their Customer Service is a negative. I haven't called recently other than lighting up the SIM that came with the Note 2 from Wirefly (I wasn't cutting my GS2 SIM) and that went similarly to every other call I have ever had with them. Outstanding every time. The only issue I have ever had with Tmobile is coverage. It sucks at my house so WiFi calling is mandatory IF I care about talking on the phone, I don't. This part of the country is Verizon for excellent coverage. Tmobile struggles in rural areas but again, I don't really care about that. It's rare I find myself in those areas. Customer support, in my experience, has always been a very positive experience.

You can't cancel your data plan on AT&T while on contract, you can pay a min of $25 a month for the data plan. I moved from ATT to Tmobile because of unlimited data. My contract is up with ATT in Jan. Was paying $50 for 5G, $30 unlimited text and on a $69. 99 family plan of 700 min. a month. Screw them... Moved to Tmobile for a valu plan of $79.99 + tax... UNLIMITED EVERYTHING. I don't miss ATT' lte cuz there ain't none in my area and seriously Tmobile runs faster.
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Love Tmobile. I'm on their prepaid Monthly4G $30/mo plan. Can't beat it. Sure i only get 5GB of 4G data, but with WiFi all day at work and at home, I don't really need the unlimited data.

I've been reading a lot about some of the carriers LTE and how TMO is faster. What I have heard is TMO is going LTE sometime next year, I'm hoping this doesn't effect our current speed?

AG0087 said:
You can't cancel your data plan on AT&T while on contract, you can pay a min of $25 a month for the data plan. I moved from ATT to Tmobile because of unlimited data. My contract is up with ATT in Jan. Was paying $50 for 5G, $30 unlimited text and on a $69. 99 family plan of 700 min. a month. Screw them... Moved to Tmobile for a valu plan of $79.99 + tax... UNLIMITED EVERYTHING. I don't miss ATT' lte cuz there ain't none in my area and seriously Tmobile runs faster.
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Thats exactly what I had with att and exactly why I left. But it sounds like youre paying 10 dollars to much now. I'm paying 69 for unlimited everything with no data cap.

AG0087 said:
You can't cancel your data plan on AT&T while on contract, you can pay a min of $25 a month for the data plan. I moved from ATT to Tmobile because of unlimited data. My contract is up with ATT in Jan. Was paying $50 for 5G, $30 unlimited text and on a $69. 99 family plan of 700 min. a month. Screw them... Moved to Tmobile for a valu plan of $79.99 + tax... UNLIMITED EVERYTHING. I don't miss ATT' lte cuz there ain't none in my area and seriously Tmobile runs faster.
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That sounds just like what I had but it sounds like youre paying 10 dollars too much now. I have unlimited everything with no data cap for 69.99...

at&t is so stupid........you can't even cancel your data plan even if you're not on contract. Smartphone = data plan REGARDLESS.
That's why I have T-Mobile even though I work for at&t.
I have 5 smartphones on my plan but only have data plans on 2 of them. My kids only use data wherever there is wifi. Why can't at&t understand that I don't know but T-Mobile does.
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jlczl said:
at&t is so stupid........you can't even cancel your data plan even if you're not on contract. Smartphone = data plan REGARDLESS.
That's why I have T-Mobile even though I work for at&t.
I have 5 smartphones on my plan but only have data plans on 2 of them. My kids only use data wherever there is wifi. Why can't at&t understand that I don't know but T-Mobile does.
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This is true. They won't let you cancel your data plan even if you're off contract. If you're using any smart phone, they required you get a data plan. lol. Plus i think they have a 2GB data cap on their LTE and if you go over, they charge for it.

OP, I was in a smilar boat as you. Transferred the fam over to value and have 4 great lines for less than $140. I thought service would suck compqred to AT&T, but quite the opposite. The only carrier coverage and speed envy I have is for VZW, but with their dumb CDMA, locked bootloaders, and double high prices they can keep it lol.
Very happy Tmo customer for the last 14 months.
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