question about which version to get - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

hi i currently have a moto x4 and i love it but the battery is completely done for. (skips around in percentages and randomly dies) i used to have a moto z play which i also liked a lot. i still have the moto mods so i figured I would buy a z2 force so i could still use the mods. i remember verizon having its own version of it during the generation 1, but i see the unlocked z2 force has band 17 which can be used with verizon (i think) so could the unlocked version be used on verizon?

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Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking.

Hello.
Just bought a refurbished moto z play verizon phone through amazon.
upon unlocking the bootloader, I get this response from motorola: Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking.
Is this because it was used or refurbished?
I tried the same process in my Linux computer and win10. same outcome.
usb dev and oem bootloader on phone is checked prior to fastboot screen
** I have not updated any software on the phone.
so i see all this wonderful development is for other variations of the moto z play. basically, damn verizon locks everything and i will return this phone. to bad.
canezila said:
so i see all this wonderful development is for other variations of the moto z play. basically, damn verizon locks everything and i will return this phone. to bad.
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Yeah thats verizon
I was considering a Play, only if I could unlock and root. So should I look for a unlocked one to start with? Why could you not unlock yours?
34Ford said:
I was considering a Play, only if I could unlock and root. So should I look for a unlocked one to start with? Why could you not unlock yours?
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He's got a Verizon branded one. It's bootloader is not unlockable due to Verizon specifically requesting Moto exclude VZW branded devices from the unlock program.
If you want to unlock/root/ROM, buy an unlocked model. But if you need to use VZW network, you may be out of luck. Check wireless bands supported by the device against the bands you need to access on your network of choice. Unlocked version is a GSM device.
I finally found that this is the one I need to buy. "moto z play xt1635-02"
34Ford said:
I finally found that this is the one I need to buy. "moto z play xt1635-02"
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haha, because you can lock the bootloader again if you have that one?
Ah crap, even that unlocked model will not work on Verizon. Looks like my option is to buy a Moto Droid Z2 Play.
34Ford said:
Ah crap, even that unlocked model will not work on Verizon. Looks like my option is to buy a Moto Droid Z2 Play.
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I don't think any modern Verizon phone will bootloader unlock.
Sucks because back in the day I bought a moto x dev... To me, that was the right customer model.
34Ford said:
Ah crap, even that unlocked model will not work on Verizon. Looks like my option is to buy a Moto Droid Z2 Play.
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That one won't be unlockable or rootable either, to my knowledge.
Not even the Z2 Play XT1710-01? Or is it just a unlocked sim?
34Ford said:
Not even the Z2 Play XT1710-01? Or is it just a unlocked sim?
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All of Verizon's devices are sim unlocked I believe, but all as far as I know are NOT bootloader unlockable.
Read in the Droid z2 play forum before buying to confirm. If there's a root method, it should be at the top of the dev forums
Edit: took a quick look over at z2 play forums. Not a lot of action. Unlock/root instructions require unlocking bootloader via Moto site. A comment down thread indicates VZW version not rootable. That is consistent with VZW past policy. Unless you're in possession of specific info on how to unlock and root Verizon version, I'd assume it's locked. Given the amount of development over there so far and general consensus that the z2 play is at best a side grade from original Z play, I'd definitely avoid VZW/Droid version if you ever want root.
I'm not sure which sub model is which over there, -01 is Verizon on original Z play

Is the Moto Z2 Force bought from Motorola carrier locked?

Looking at getting a Moto Z2 Force directly from Motorola since it's on sale at the moment for Mother's Day for $500
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-edition-gen-2/ecomm
But when I go to select one I am asked to choose a carrier. And a chat session with Moto support says the phones are carrier locked.
That seems very strange for a phone bought with no plan. Is it hard to unlock?
Thanks
T-Mo one can just be unlocked with an active SIM, no other need for it. Other carriers, I don't know about.
If you get the TMobile version from Moto bear in mind you will have to go through a bunch of hoops to get it unlocked after you qualify. The IMEI never makes it to TMobile for them to unlock so you have to do a stupid appeals process over Facebook of all things. It adds almost and extra month to the unlock time.

Unlocked AT&T Branded phone

Hi, I just got a new unlocked AT&T Z2 force phone. I'm on Cricket and the phone works, but i can't upgrade the phone to Oreo or 8.0+ What's the best way to get around this? I'm pretty new so but hopefully i can figure it out. Thanks
Just out of curiosity, is your phone the Super Black or the White Gold? There are many reports of users being unable to update their AT&T z2 Force
kingstu said:
Just out of curiosity, is your phone the Super Black or the White Gold? There are many reports of users being unable to update their AT&T z2 Force
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Black
My black AT&T z2 Force has the same issue and they seem to be cheaper than all the other z2 Forces at Motorola's web store.
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My black AT&T z2 Force has the same issue and they seem to be cheaper than all the other z2 Forces at Motorola's web store.
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I was just about to order a Black one when I saw this thread. I started a new thread asking if this was a known problem. Does seem strange that the Black model has an extra $121 discount!
New thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/help/problems-att-black-z2-force-t3804697
Someone could get the update? I just bought the same model as you and i have the same problem.
Time to dump AT&T. Out of all the major carriers, they seem to give their customers the biggest screwing of them all...
Hello!
I don't know if any of you already try it but i found this https://www.getdroidtips.com/ocx27-109-47-oreo-att-moto-z2-force/
It seems that should work, i downloaded the update, and did everything but in the last step, when i type "adb sideload .zip" i got an error that says it can`t read the file.

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So I managed to get my hands on a Black Z2 Force, with my gold one having gotten Zero IMEI due to attempting to straight flash the Android 9 Firmware on it. (Don't do it btw.)
Because of that I sold that off and got a Black Z2 Force, same sprint version and all. And now have a new issue with it. I flashed the Verizon Oreo files, but I have no Service during setup. I can't get through the first screen, and is stuck on "Please Wait, this may take a few minutes." I did the exact same thing I did on my Gold One before and I didn't have issues.
Did anyone else have this issue? When on the Sprint Firmware I had Verizon Service and all when I inserted my sim card (Some invalid sim errors) so I don't know whats going on here. It is the -03 Sprint obviously, so I don't know if I possibly missed something or maybe someone had this issue and got through it.
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