Hello.
Just bought a refurbished moto z play verizon phone through amazon.
upon unlocking the bootloader, I get this response from motorola: Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking.
Is this because it was used or refurbished?
I tried the same process in my Linux computer and win10. same outcome.
usb dev and oem bootloader on phone is checked prior to fastboot screen
** I have not updated any software on the phone.
so i see all this wonderful development is for other variations of the moto z play. basically, damn verizon locks everything and i will return this phone. to bad.
canezila said:
so i see all this wonderful development is for other variations of the moto z play. basically, damn verizon locks everything and i will return this phone. to bad.
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Yeah thats verizon
I was considering a Play, only if I could unlock and root. So should I look for a unlocked one to start with? Why could you not unlock yours?
34Ford said:
I was considering a Play, only if I could unlock and root. So should I look for a unlocked one to start with? Why could you not unlock yours?
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He's got a Verizon branded one. It's bootloader is not unlockable due to Verizon specifically requesting Moto exclude VZW branded devices from the unlock program.
If you want to unlock/root/ROM, buy an unlocked model. But if you need to use VZW network, you may be out of luck. Check wireless bands supported by the device against the bands you need to access on your network of choice. Unlocked version is a GSM device.
I finally found that this is the one I need to buy. "moto z play xt1635-02"
34Ford said:
I finally found that this is the one I need to buy. "moto z play xt1635-02"
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haha, because you can lock the bootloader again if you have that one?
Ah crap, even that unlocked model will not work on Verizon. Looks like my option is to buy a Moto Droid Z2 Play.
34Ford said:
Ah crap, even that unlocked model will not work on Verizon. Looks like my option is to buy a Moto Droid Z2 Play.
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I don't think any modern Verizon phone will bootloader unlock.
Sucks because back in the day I bought a moto x dev... To me, that was the right customer model.
34Ford said:
Ah crap, even that unlocked model will not work on Verizon. Looks like my option is to buy a Moto Droid Z2 Play.
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That one won't be unlockable or rootable either, to my knowledge.
Not even the Z2 Play XT1710-01? Or is it just a unlocked sim?
34Ford said:
Not even the Z2 Play XT1710-01? Or is it just a unlocked sim?
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All of Verizon's devices are sim unlocked I believe, but all as far as I know are NOT bootloader unlockable.
Read in the Droid z2 play forum before buying to confirm. If there's a root method, it should be at the top of the dev forums
Edit: took a quick look over at z2 play forums. Not a lot of action. Unlock/root instructions require unlocking bootloader via Moto site. A comment down thread indicates VZW version not rootable. That is consistent with VZW past policy. Unless you're in possession of specific info on how to unlock and root Verizon version, I'd assume it's locked. Given the amount of development over there so far and general consensus that the z2 play is at best a side grade from original Z play, I'd definitely avoid VZW/Droid version if you ever want root.
I'm not sure which sub model is which over there, -01 is Verizon on original Z play
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Hey guys,
So one of us had to sacrifice themself and it had to be me. I bought the z2 play from motos site and it came stock with the verizon logo and all. It came in from Wuhan, China built on demand and sent to my address in the usa. I got it about 10 minutes ago, followed the unlockbootloader protocol from moto and bam.....not unlockable. So don't waste your time folks. Unless you wanna deal with india reps for an hour to return it or well I'm still on the phone. So cheers! And you're welcome.
You really thought a Motorola phone specifically for the Verizon network would have an unlockable bootloader? Lol.
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is it rootable?
PiousInquisitor said:
You really thought a Motorola phone specifically for the Verizon network would have an unlockable bootloader? Lol.
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I'd agree with you but I am pretty sure there was a Verizon-specific Nexus 6 and it was bootloader unlockable.
Yes, I know it was a Nexus, and yes I know it was pretty much the same as the unlocked version... but there was still a VZW version of the phone. Just saying its not 100% though.
KnightCrusader said:
I'd agree with you but I am pretty sure there was a Verizon-specific Nexus 6 and it was bootloader unlockable.
Yes, I know it was a Nexus, and yes I know it was pretty much the same as the unlocked version... but there was still a VZW version of the phone. Just saying its not 100% though.
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Like you said, it was a Nexus. Has there been a Nexus that didn't have an unlockable bootloader? Don't think so. Name the last Motorola phone specifically for Verizon that wasn't a developer edition that you could unlock the bootloader out of the box. I'm pretty damn sure there aren't any. The 2015 Moto X Pure Edition is the closest thing to it but it wasn't a Verizon specific phone. It was simply one that worked on the Verizon network. OP is still foolish for even dreaming about a Verizon/Moto phone with an unlocked bootloader.
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You really thought a Motorola phone specifically for the Verizon network would have an unlockable bootloader? Lol.
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My last phone was verizon and it was. So yes it can happen. But I have been rooting since the droid line came out. But youre welcome. I mean if people don't test things out then how could you know? I think it is more stupid to assume. Right now I switched to the g5 plus and I like it and yes its a moto. Not verizon but a moto and it works on verz
diskmaster23 said:
is it rootable?
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No but the one coming out that international is rootable.
ihatevz said:
My last phone was verizon and it was. So yes it can happen. But I have been rooting since the droid line came out. But youre welcome. I mean if people don't test things out then how could you know? I think it is more stupid to assume. Right now I switched to the g5 plus and I like it and yes its a moto. Not verizon but a moto and it works on verz
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Your last Motorola Droid phone had an officially unlockable bootloader? Since the Droid line came out? You should have known that Droid phones don't have unlockable bootloaders unless they are developer edition models. Bro, you're not a hero. Only a fool buys a phone to test for an unlocked bootloader then tries to return it when he can't. There are loads of people that have bought the phone that would like an unlocked bootloader that can test it but plan on keeping it either way. You wasted time and money for nothing.
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Wait what about other regions? does India/International versions are locked too. ?
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Name the last Motorola phone specifically for Verizon that wasn't a developer edition that you could unlock the bootloader out of the box.
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Droid 1
PiousInquisitor said:
Like you said, it was a Nexus. Has there been a Nexus that didn't have an unlockable bootloader? Don't think so. Name the last Motorola phone specifically for Verizon that wasn't a developer edition that you could unlock the bootloader out of the box. I'm pretty damn sure there aren't any. The 2015 Moto X Pure Edition is the closest thing to it but it wasn't a Verizon specific phone. It was simply one that worked on the Verizon network. OP is still foolish for even dreaming about a Verizon/Moto phone with an unlocked bootloader.
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Technically yes, there has been a nexus without an unlockable bootloader. Pixel is basically nexus - and it is locked on Verizon. Thank you OP, I was just about to try this myself. Back to the N6P I go
Train88 said:
Technically yes, there has been a nexus without an unlockable bootloader. Pixel is basically nexus - and it is locked on Verizon. Thank you OP, I was just about to try this myself. Back to the N6P I go
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Thanks to the op for sharing their experience. Not sure how useful some of the snarky replies are.
I posted this elsewhere but I will post it here too since this is a thread about unlocked bootloaders - the unlocked Moto Z2 Play lists its Verizon compatible.
My thoughts exactly. I'm hoping to purchase the unlocked version when it's available, root / unlock bootloader, then pop in my Verizon Sim.
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My thoughts exactly. I'm hoping to purchase the unlocked version when it's available, root / unlock bootloader, then pop in my Verizon Sim.
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They are available now on the Lenovo/Motorola website for preorder. I have the same idea as you. Tentative delivery is August 18th for me.
RedWingsFanEd said:
They are available now on the Lenovo/Motorola website for preorder. I have the same idea as you. Tentative delivery is August 18th for me.
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Any update?
joefuf said:
Any update?
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Stuck in the build phase with no delivery on the 18th. Keep checking on line in faint hope it will speed up.
RedWingsFanEd said:
Stuck in the build phase with no delivery on the 18th. Keep checking on line in faint hope it will speed up.
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Sorry man.
What carrier do you have?
joefuf said:
Sorry man.
What carrier do you have?
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Verizon. That was why I waited for the unlocked version so I can root it and keep all my toys
I've been out of the game for a bit so I'm a little lost, are ALL the z2 phones boot loaders unlockable through the Motorola Devs site, or only the ones from Sprint and T-Mobile? I haven't been to my store to see which particular version of the Z2 they sell yet, but I'm also looking at the LG V30 which I know I need a specific version number (998). What do I need to look for before I buy the Z2 to make sure I can unlock it and flash TWRP?
I used to be an android tweaker back when I was in middle school (about 2009-ish) and then switched to apple. Now I'm done with that and want to get back into android so I'm looking into what phones are out and my tiny local cell carrier offers the V30 and the Z2 Force which are both contenders. I'm particularly interested in using Magisk which wasn't around back in the day
Thanks!
I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
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I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
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Thanks would like to know myself. I'm on Verizon but would like maybe to root and wondering which bootloaders can be unlocked and which can't. Verizon isn't to friendly in that respect.
Thanks.
wooddale said:
Thanks would like to know myself. I'm on Verizon but would like maybe to root and wondering which bootloaders can be unlocked and which can't. Verizon isn't to friendly in that respect.
Thanks.
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stay away from the LG phones if you want an unlocked bootloader. unless you get an international variant they will not be what you want. I just got rid of my G6 because of this. They allow you to unlock your BL on Tmobile but guess what? No fastboot commands work!!! Seems all the new Lg's are doing this now
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stay away from the LG phones if you want an unlocked bootloader. unless you get an international variant they will not be what you want. I just got rid of my G6 because of this. They allow you to unlock your BL on Tmobile but guess what? No fastboot commands work!!! Seems all the new Lg's are doing this now
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Thanks but I was thinking on the Z2 Force from Motorola. Wondering if the Verizon Z2 Force bootloader bcan be unlocked.
wooddale said:
Thanks but I was thinking on the Z2 Force from Motorola. Wondering if the Verizon Z2 Force bootloader bcan be unlocked.
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not unless someone finds an exploit. so i wouldnt hold your breath
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Thanks! Is there a way to differentiate between those that can be unlocked and those that can't based on serial number of something? I need to be able to know before I leave the store because if I can't root, I don't want to switch back yet.
ctrl+alt+pasta said:
Thanks! Is there a way to differentiate between those that can be unlocked and those that can't based on serial number of something? I need to be able to know before I leave the store because if I can't root, I don't want to switch back yet.
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att and verizon = not unlockable
sprint and tmobile = unlockable
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att and verizon = not unlockable
sprint and tmobile = unlockable
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Well I'm not on any of those four lol, thats why I want to know if I can tell by serial number or something. Otherwise I suppose I can go buy the thing, try the moto website, and if it's not eligible I'll just tell my carrier I didn't like the phone and since the warranty should still be good they'll let me "test drive" it for two weeks.
(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
There is the model numbers for the big four and US Cellular
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(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
There is the model numbers for the big four and US Cellular
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So I read there is a process to carrier unlock any phone correct? So can I buy a TMobile phone carrier unlock it unlock the bootloader and use it on Verizon. Thanks
wooddale said:
So I read there is a process to carrier unlock any phone correct? So can I buy a TMobile phone carrier unlock it unlock the bootloader and use it on Verizon. Thanks
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Have a friend who has TMobile buy it outright, after 7 days you can carrier unlock it via calling in to TMobile and them giving you the SIM unlock code. The T-Mobile account must be current, phone be active, and must be purchased, you can't carrier unlock (via carrier) unless it is purchased and not leased, rented, amount owed on device. Will it work on Vz? I wouldn't know to be honest.
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Have a friend who has TMobile buy it outright, after 7 days you can carrier unlock it via calling in to TMobile and them giving you the SIM unlock code. The T-Mobile account must be current, phone be active, and must be purchased, you can't carrier unlock (via carrier) unless it is purchased and not leased, rented, amount owed on device. Will it work on Vz? I wouldn't know to be honest.
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Thanks I thought I had something going lol. I did read about getting the code but it didn't go through the details. That is probably why Moto is.not selling an unlocked version. I'm not so much interested in a custom.rom but would like root. I'm in a tough signal area in Wisconsin and the only phones that work well here are Motorola. I've tried the Note 8, Pixel2XL even the Essential none of them are worth a darn signal wise. I have the original Z Force but Verizon so no root. Oh well back to the boards. Thanks Again.
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Thanks I thought I had something going lol. I did read about getting the code but it didn't go through the details. That is probably why Moto is.not selling an unlocked version. I'm not so much interested in a custom.rom but would like root. I'm in a tough signal area in Wisconsin and the only phones that work well here are Motorola. I've tried the Note 8, Pixel2XL even the Essential none of them are worth a darn signal wise. I have the original Z Force but Verizon so no root. Oh well back to the boards. Thanks Again.
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That is why I left Vz. Great signal but I want unlock options. Having to use rumrunner on my HTC M7 was a pain compared to just going to HTCdev and accepting the voided warranty. HTCdev, Motorola unlock site, etc will always work. Programs like rumrunner, Sunshine, etc can be patched via update and not work on newer firmwares. No bueno in my book.
I first bought the VZW Z2 Force and fell in love with it but I couldn't live without root. I sent it back and went to TMO and got one. TMO signal in my area is terrible, many dead spots. I don't own this phone but I'd pay it off in a heartbeat if I knew I could carrier unlock it and then throw my Verizon SIM card in it. Nobody has tried yet?
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I first bought the VZW Z2 Force and fell in love with it but I couldn't live without root. I sent it back and went to TMO and got one. TMO signal in my area is terrible, many dead spots. I don't own this phone but I'd pay it off in a heartbeat if I knew I could carrier unlock it and then throw my Verizon SIM card in it. Nobody has tried yet?
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Usually it would require the Verizon flash all and then it depends if Lenovo went cheap and put the Verizon specific frequencies for LTE in all models. Most of the time each phone for different carriers are from different batches with tiny hardware differences. Some times the radio is the exact same and the modem firmware file depicts what frequencies are unlocked. (Most of us modders went away from Verizon for what my previous post explains, so possibly no one who has Verizon has tried to bite the bullet).
If I didn't have Verizon I wouldn't be able to make a call from my.house. That's how bad it is right here and that's only because of a Network extender. You could still try it all you have to do is carrier unlock it and try. Anybody's Verizon sim will work.
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wooddale said:
If I didn't have Verizon I wouldn't be able to make a call from my.house. That's how bad it is right here and that's only because of a Network extender. You could still try it all you have to do is carrier unlock it and try. Anybody's Verizon sim will work.
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Sorry missed the part about not owning I guess they won't carrier unlock unless you own
Uzephi said:
(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
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hmm. It's weird that ATT and TMO have the same serial if ones unlockable and one isn't. I guess the serials won't really help me then
ctrl+alt+pasta said:
hmm. It's weird that ATT and TMO have the same serial if ones unlockable and one isn't. I guess the serials won't really help me then
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What MVNO do you use?
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What MVNO do you use?
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Not going to lie I had to look MVNO up but Wikipedia says Verizon. ****...so I guess that means I'm out of luck
EDIT: My company does sell the snapdragon Galaxy devices though. I know the boot loader is locked but they can still get root and I can still run exposed then right? It'll really suck not having a custom recovery but Xposed should give me enough to play with. I'll have to jump over to those forums
I recently upgraded from a Note 8 to a Pixel 2 XL unlocked verizon model.
Unfortunately I cannot root the phone so I can't use xposed for the ad blocking capabilities.
I was told that there was a virtural exposed that does similar things yet I used it and I cannot use it on youtube to block ads.
Without rooting is there any way I can block youtube ads and app ads similar to exposed?
I am using firefox with ublock so that helps but I would very much enjoy blocking youtube and other ads?
Also is there something similar to Air android for Pixel 2? I cannot use Air android for pixel 2 it keeps force closing. Not sure if its because of the phone or Android P?
Phone other wise is extremely great and I am using it on Android P
Would love suggestions for good cases and tempered glass
Thanks!
Dns66 would be your best bet for ad blocking without root.
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Dns66 would be your best bet for ad blocking without root.
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where would I find the DNS66?
A small search using uncle google reveal the answer
js2shanks said:
I recently upgraded from a Note 8 to a Pixel 2 XL unlocked verizon model....
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I'm curious, is your phone an unlocked model or a verizon model?
Where did you purchase your phone; Google Store? Did you purchase specifically the Verizon model from the Google Store?
Just checking, because if you did purchase an unlocked model and simply have a Verizon SIM in it, you are and would be able to root your phone...
Then, if you would be able to unlock the bootloader, many of your concerns could be addressed better having root access...
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I'm curious, is your phone an unlocked model or a verizon model?
Where did you purchase your phone; Google Store? Did you purchase specifically the Verizon model from the Google Store?
Just checking, because if you did purchase an unlocked model and simply have a Verizon SIM in it, you are and would be able to root your phone...
Then, if you would be able to unlock the bootloader, many of your concerns could be addressed better having root access...
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I'm assuming he means carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked.
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I'm assuming he means carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked.
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aaahhh...thank you for the clarification...
wait.....unless it's a verizon model, wouldn't they all be "carrier unlocked"? And, if so, it's only bootloader unlocked if it's a Verizon model, right?
Supposedly even the Verizon model is carrier unlocked. It however also has a locked bootloader. A device purchased direct from Google won't have a locked bootloader.
Funny story. I went into a Verizon store to get a case for my P2XL because Amazon couldn't tell the difference between a P2 and P2XL: they sent the wrong product. The Verizon rep asked me why I didn't buy my P2XL from them. Reply? "You lock your bootloaders." Without missing a beat the rep tried to say that they supposedly stopped doing that, to which I countered that I know more than a few people who would disagree with you. The "deer in the headlights" look and the mumbling about having to look into that [locked bootloader] was priceless.
Good story! Most Verizon emp's don't know what a bootloader is! ???
Youtube Vanced. Get the unrooted version.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Supposedly even the Verizon model is carrier unlocked. It however also has a locked bootloader. A device purchased direct from Google won't have a locked bootloader.
Funny story. I went into a Verizon store to get a case for my P2XL because Amazon couldn't tell the difference between a P2 and P2XL: they sent the wrong product. The Verizon rep asked me why I didn't buy my P2XL from them. Reply? "You lock your bootloaders." Without missing a beat the rep tried to say that they supposedly stopped doing that, to which I countered that I know more than a few people who would disagree with you. The "deer in the headlights" look and the mumbling about having to look into that [locked bootloader] was priceless.
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So, trying to understand this all correctly, you could purchase a "Verizon model", and bring over to another US carrier (let's say AT&T) and it would work? Or even an EU carrier (although I've heard that there is a carrier lock for the first number of months [I think 9 months] before you can activate your US Pixel 2 in another country)?
And so, the only thing different between Verizon model and any other is only the bootloader? As you can supposedly activate the VZ model in other networks (not exclusively the use of Google's model) and/or it's not like you can't use/activate Google's model on Verizon's network?
...Outside of Verizon's exclusive deal with Google, I wonder why Google didn't just advertise is as Locked-Bootloader version and Unlocked-Bootloader version -- other than Verizon pulling the bait-and-switch locking the bootloader of a phone that's initially and naturally unlocked and/or didn't want it advertised that way due to negative connotation...
Verizon may also have it carrier locked. I don't have one and I'm not about to find out either since I steer far clear of Verizon. However, the only difference I can recall between the Google and Verizon P2XL is the bootloader. So if Verizon doesn't also SIM lock the P2XL, then you could buy a Verizon P2XL and use it on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any of their MVNOs like Straight Talk or Cricket just by swapping SIM cards.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the fact Verizon locks the bootloader at all means you're better off with buying direct from Google, even though the deals are not nearly as significant as with Verizon/Best Buy.
You can get Verizon Motorola devices direct from Motorola. Unlike Motorola, Google doesn't offer the Verizon models in their store. Therefore Google doesn't have to advertise something that only appeals to a select group of owners. As for Verizon, there is no bait and switch here. Bait and switch involves substituting a product for a product the merchant has no intention of selling. Verizon isn't doing that, as all their devices are bootloader locked.
I am currently looking at Verizon for phones (needs to be Verizon based in my area as the GSM signals are weak to non-existent, whereas the CDMA signal is usable). I am looking at phones through the website and see they have a G7 Play (SKU# MOTXT19523) for free, and I want to do my research before placing an order to see if the bootloader of this phone is unlockable. I look at the moto bootloader support page and see that G7 Play's should be unlockable, but I can also remember getting burned on other moto devices because of it being a verizon device and they don't seem to like unlocking the bootloaders to their devices. If that is the case, would I be able to unlock the bootloader of any of the devices that verizon is trying to sell me? I appreciate any assistance that can be provided, and I am sorry if this is a repeat, but I could not come up with anything that I could tell was the right answer... and I don't want to waste time and money if I don't have to. Thank you.
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I am currently looking at Verizon for phones (needs to be Verizon based in my area as the GSM signals are weak to non-existent, whereas the CDMA signal is usable). I am looking at phones through the website and see they have a G7 Play (SKU# MOTXT19523) for free, and I want to do my research before placing an order to see if the bootloader of this phone is unlockable. I look at the moto bootloader support page and see that G7 Play's should be unlockable, but I can also remember getting burned on other moto devices because of it being a verizon device and they don't seem to like unlocking the bootloaders to their devices. If that is the case, would I be able to unlock the bootloader of any of the devices that verizon is trying to sell me? I appreciate any assistance that can be provided, and I am sorry if this is a repeat, but I could not come up with anything that I could tell was the right answer... and I don't want to waste time and money if I don't have to. Thank you.
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Carrier exclusive models (ex. Verizon, AT&T, Tracfone) are almost never unlockable.
Bootloader unlock codes are not available for Amazon Branded devices
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So my Moto E5 Supra started smoking and almost caught on fire last week. I'd had it about a year but couldnt stand how Cricket had the bootloader locked and I couldnt root it. I decided i'd not get one of their phones and order one from Ebay.
The seller had it listed as an Unlocked G7 Power ATT/Cricket XT-1955 so I looked it up and made sure it would be rootable. It gets here, and its the XT1955-6 Verizon version. Calling works but has a constant notification of it not being a verizon sim which I could live with. But then I get on here and see it has a locked bootloader...
What can I do? I contacted the seller and he will allow me to return it. I know there arent magical workarounds for phones with locked bootloaders from going through this with the E5 Supra. I really like the phone though, so im going to order another one today from somewhere online and send this one back tomorrow. Which version is guaranteed to come with an unlocked bootloader and preferably work with GSM? I saw that 1955-5 could be flashed onto the international version and its actually cheaper and comes with more ram and space I believe. Not sure on battery size.
I want to make absolutely certain that what I get can be rooted, primarily because of how much im paying for mobile hotspot data and I enjoy the freedom. Are the international versions bootloader unlocked? I dont mind having to flash things on it or whatever in order to make it all work smoothly. Is the G7 International the way to go?
Thanks in advance!
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So my Moto E5 Supra started smoking and almost caught on fire last week. I'd had it about a year but couldnt stand how Cricket had the bootloader locked and I couldnt root it. I decided i'd not get one of their phones and order one from Ebay.
The seller had it listed as an Unlocked G7 Power ATT/Cricket XT-1955 so I looked it up and made sure it would be rootable. It gets here, and its the XT1955-6 Verizon version. Calling works but has a constant notification of it not being a verizon sim which I could live with. But then I get on here and see it has a locked bootloader...
What can I do? I contacted the seller and he will allow me to return it. I know there arent magical workarounds for phones with locked bootloaders from going through this with the E5 Supra. I really like the phone though, so im going to order another one today from somewhere online and send this one back tomorrow. Which version is guaranteed to come with an unlocked bootloader and preferably work with GSM? I saw that 1955-5 could be flashed onto the international version and its actually cheaper and comes with more ram and space I believe. Not sure on battery size.
I want to make absolutely certain that what I get can be rooted, primarily because of how much im paying for mobile hotspot data and I enjoy the freedom. Are the international versions bootloader unlocked? I dont mind having to flash things on it or whatever in order to make it all work smoothly. Is the G7 International the way to go?
Thanks in advance!
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Has the big battery if it the power
I am seeing a lot of blankflash posts and bricked devices posts. I really do like the Motos for the price, but I may just go an entirely different route. Im wondering are the International G7s bootloader unlocked? As far as the Power goes, the 1955-5 comes with an unlocked bootloader correct?
GarrettVW67 said:
I am seeing a lot of blankflash posts and bricked devices posts. I really do like the Motos for the price, but I may just go an entirely different route. Im wondering are the International G7s bootloader unlocked? As far as the Power goes, the 1955-5 comes with an unlocked bootloader correct?
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The bootloader never come unlocked u have to do it certain carryors slow them to be unlocked some carryors won't allow them .if u get one that is international one most likely u can unlock boot loader and as for the brick ones most times they did something wrong I had same feeling so I got off a chat on tellagram and people there explained things to me and got an complete guied on how to do so do not brick it
Thank you for clarifying it but I didn't mean to say come unlocked. I realize you have to go through Motorola. I just don't want to go through this same issue again. Cricket had the G7 Power but they don't allow bootloader's to be unlocked on anything of theirs.
But as far as variants that are unlockable through Motorola, do you happen to know which ones have bootloader's that are 100% able to be unlocked?
I know this doesn't matter but my OEM unlock switch I am actually able to toggle. Was on the phone with Verizon and each rep moved me up the ladder until finally they tried to tell me Motorola is the one who locks them. That may be true, but at Verizon's request I would imagine ? Lol
One other thing. I've been reading and reading on here and other places. There was a guy on here who said he was going to flash the 1955-5 firmware on his 1955-6. I'm not sure if it was exactly those words, but he seemed to think some firmware could allow it. But from what I remember, the bootloader comes before all of that and are encrypted and I feel like flashing any different firmware even if stock and signed or whatever would brick his device ..
GarrettVW67 said:
One other thing. I've been reading and reading on here and other places. There was a guy on here who said he was going to flash the 1955-5 firmware on his 1955-6. I'm not sure if it was exactly those words, but he seemed to think some firmware could allow it. But from what I remember, the bootloader comes before all of that and are encrypted and I feel like flashing any different firmware even if stock and signed or whatever would brick his device ..
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@zfk110 has a Verizon model I believe. Maybe @zfk110 can let you know if it can be unlocked or not.
Also join telegram group for Moto g7 power here: https://t.me/mG7Power
Very much appreciate the help.
flash713 said:
@zfk110 has a Verizon model I believe. Maybe @zfk110 can let you know if it can be unlocked or not.
Also join telegram group for Moto g7 power here: https://t.me/mG7Power
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Thumb of the rule, any branded Motorola phone won't have unlocked bootloader.
Read here
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-G...ader-Unlock-Help-Please-post-here/m-p/3024663
if you're buying a new phone then make sure its IMEI works on Verizon first
Here
https://www.verizon.com/onedp/byod?kbid=121565#/
Edit: Once you do find that out, then make sure it's not a branded phone for Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile, MetroPcs. Normally those phones have logo's on the back and app installed on them if it's not then you might get lucky to have one which you can unlock the bootloader and still works with Verizon.
If your phone is branded then best bet to resale it and get a phone mentioned above, there is no work around to it.
zfk110 said:
Thumb of the rule, any branded Motorola phone won't have unlocked bootloader.
Read here
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-G...ader-Unlock-Help-Please-post-here/m-p/3024663
if you're buying a new phone then make sure its IMEI works on Verizon first
Here
https://www.verizon.com/onedp/byod?kbid=121565#/
Edit: Once you do find that out, then make sure it's not a branded phone for Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile, MetroPcs. Normally those phones have logo's on the back and app installed on them if it's not then you might get lucky to have one which you can unlock the bootloader and still works with Verizon.
If your phone is branded then best bet to resale it and get a phone mentioned above, there is no work around to it.
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Thanks for the info.