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[Q] High CPU usage by Media (Downloads and Media Storage processes)

I've seen the CPU usage by "Media" (android.process.media?) to be always extremely high (as seen by "Battery Usage" and "GSam Battery Monitor") - and seemed to be the culprit of my very fast battery drainage.
So using Titanium Backup, I Froze "Downloads 4.x.x" and "Media Storage 4.x.x" which seemed to have helped a LOT - I get much better battery life, and the CPU usage by "Media" is 0-1% as opposed to 80-98%.
Just wondering - anyone know why this is - and what side-effects I could have by freezing these two processes?

I have been dealing with this issue for the last couple of days too. I ended up having to clear the data in Google Music and start fresh.
I froze pretty much everything possible. Those two processes will make your music stop playing and prevent you from using system sounds. It might also keep the market from functioning.
I think the latest google music update messed something up though. My problem seems to have cleared up, but I also have not played music in a while to see if it comes back.

Gersonian said:
I have been dealing with this issue for the last couple of days too. I ended up having to clear the data in Google Music and start fresh.
I froze pretty much everything possible. Those two processes will make your music stop playing and prevent you from using system sounds. It might also keep the market from functioning.
I think the latest google music update messed something up though. My problem seems to have cleared up, but I also have not played music in a while to see if it comes back.
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I've had this for quite a while - I don't play music - and I have not had any problems with notifications or sounds, or even downloads.
I read that it does affect Gallery - which I did just try - and yes it seems to force close. But I have always used QuickPic instead which does not seem to have a problem with me freezing these two processes.
I assume they scan the internal and external data locations for media/files... I've read that it's possible that the scanning process gets stuck in a loop if there is a corrupt file or if there is something wrong with the SD card... *shrug*
I'm just wondering if I should be worried.
I'm on CM10 by the way... amazing how much faster my GS3 is over stock...

I miss CM10 from when I was on my Epic. Eventually the day will come that I will flash something. For now I am still just tooling with the way I like things.
I read about the corrupt file issue too. I am keeping an eye on this. Every time I froze media the media-related processes, something inevitably got screwed up. Hopefully I have fixed the issue on my end.
Do you have Google Music on your phone? Just because you do not listen to music does not mean the application isn't draining your battery. It could be starting up and keeping your phone awake if there is something corrupt going on there. Probably better to seek out a solution that allows the core processes to run than to keep them frozen. More than likely you will lose some additional functionality than just the gallery FC'ing.

Gersonian said:
I miss CM10 from when I was on my Epic. Eventually the day will come that I will flash something. For now I am still just tooling with the way I like things.
I read about the corrupt file issue too. I am keeping an eye on this. Every time I froze media the media-related processes, something inevitably got screwed up. Hopefully I have fixed the issue on my end.
Do you have Google Music on your phone? Just because you do not listen to music does not mean the application isn't draining your battery. It could be starting up and keeping your phone awake if there is something corrupt going on there. Probably better to seek out a solution that allows the core processes to run than to keep them frozen. More than likely you will lose some additional functionality than just the gallery FC'ing.
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Nope - I don't use Google Music - and I use a separate MP3 player for playing music (I'm one of those weird people who doesn't believe in wasting my phone battery on playing music.. haha)
I don't see anything else eating away at my battery life according to Gsam (well, ok, except the evil Amazon App Store - which I can't freeze since some apps I bought from Amazon require it - UGH).

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Instead of freezing these processes, when you reboot after a couple of minutes go to settings>battery and then to MEDIA and force stop. It will turn itself back on later if need be but that stops the ruanaway service with no apps force closing when used.

kennyglass123 said:
Instead of freezing these processes, when you reboot after a couple of minutes go to settings>battery and then to MEDIA and force stop. It will turn itself back on later if need be but that stops the ruanaway service with no apps force closing when used.
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My phone is set to reboot every morning after Ti Backup does a backup of apps/data and I'd hate to have to go through that every morning.
(the SmartPhoneMate app also requires 1-2 reboots a day so that's why I also do that)
Yeah I'm just lazy
One day I'll take the time to figure out if it's something on my SD card...
I just wanted to make sure if there was something else I should be worried about... so far nothing major as far as I can tell.
P.S> Sorry about posting in the wrong place - as you can see, I'm total n00b here (been lurking for a while though)

Here is a good set of solutions and workarounds: http://geeknizer.com/fix-android-media-server-scanner-sdcard-cpu-battery-drain/
In addition, a further one may be helpful/needed: disable (freeze) the Downloads app (com.android.providers.downloads)
What was most helpful in my case is to use the Rescan Media Root app to disable the buggy image scanner altogether.

ddvo said:
Here is a good set of solutions and workarounds: http://geeknizer.com/fix-android-media-server-scanner-sdcard-cpu-battery-drain/
In addition, a further one may be helpful/needed: disable (freeze) the Downloads app (com.android.providers.downloads)
What was most helpful in my case is to use the Rescan Media Root app to disable the buggy image scanner altogether.
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Good stuff... thanks!

Extremely Slow UI

So i really love the look, feel, options and performance of a clean fresh install of AOKP. However, the more apps i install and use the slower the performance of the UI gets. It slowly gets unbearable, seemingly, as i add back my apps that i like. Is this normal? I've tried a memory manager called Auto Memory Manager but that didn't seem to help at all. Is this just a consequence of having lots of apps installed? It's almost like i'm on an old windows machine and it needs to have a clean install every couple of months to get the "snappy" ui feel back. It bad enough sometimes where it takes the phone 5-10 seconds to actually answer a call once I click answer and 5 seconds to get to the home screen. What can i do?

TurbineTester said:
So i really love the look, feel, options and performance of a clean fresh install of AOKP. However, the more apps i install and use the slower the performance of the UI gets. It slowly gets unbearable, seemingly, as i add back my apps that i like. Is this normal? I've tried a memory manager called Auto Memory Manager but that didn't seem to help at all. Is this just a consequence of having lots of apps installed? It's almost like i'm on an old windows machine and it needs to have a clean install every couple of months to get the "snappy" ui feel back. It bad enough sometimes where it takes the phone 5-10 seconds to actually answer a call once I click answer and 5 seconds to get to the home screen. What can i do?
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flash vanir 4.3.1 build nightlies, you'll be SHOCKED on how fast it is,

shriom_manerker said:
flash vanir 4.3.1 build nightlies, you'll be SHOCKED on how fast it is,
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I've falshed it and i'm getting all my apps installed on it now to give it a go.
Do all ROM's get slower as you install more apps?

TurbineTester said:
Do all ROM's get slower as you install more apps?
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Yes, and from my perspective it's because many apps you install tend to automatically start as you e.g. power up the phone, turn on WiFi/data, etc. and then they keep running and taking CPU time and RAM in the background. Common task killers won't solve this easily. Best way to verify is to stop everything possible from Settings-Apps-Running.
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TurbineTester said:
I've falshed it and i'm getting all my apps installed on it now to give it a go.
Do all ROM's get slower as you install more apps?
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yes and no, yes if you install apps that sit in the background and start using data,check for updates constantly like facebook, the best thing to do is to use greenify and greenify that app so that it doesnt wake up your device and start eating ram n data. also note that if u do this to messenger apps you wont get notifications unless you open the app

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yes and no, yes if you install apps that sit in the background and start using data,check for updates constantly like facebook, the best thing to do is to use greenify and greenify that app so that it doesnt wake up your device and start eating ram n data. also note that if u do this to messenger apps you wont get notifications unless you open the app
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I've got all my apps up and runnign on Vanir now, and i will agree that it is far snappier than AOKP. However it has frozen on me twice. And i mean a hard freeze. Screen got stuck, audio looping on last few milisecs of sound and i had to pull the battery to get it out of the freeze.
Today, i got the first dose of it being slow like AOKP again. It was while it was charging in my car dock and i was trying to dial a phone number using rocket dial.
What are some typical apps that i should try to greenify? Sounds like i shouldn't greenify anything i want notificatinos from like phone, messaging and email. Anything else i should greenify or not greenify? Any tips on the freezing?

TurbineTester said:
I've got all my apps up and runnign on Vanir now, and i will agree that it is far snappier than AOKP. However it has frozen on me twice. And i mean a hard freeze. Screen got stuck, audio looping on last few milisecs of sound and i had to pull the battery to get it out of the freeze.
Today, i got the first dose of it being slow like AOKP again. It was while it was charging in my car dock and i was trying to dial a phone number using rocket dial.
What are some typical apps that i should try to greenify? Sounds like i shouldn't greenify anything i want notificatinos from like phone, messaging and email. Anything else i should greenify or not greenify? Any tips on the freezing?
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wow thats very weird ! one thing ive noticed is that if your internal storage (sdcard) space is less than 5 gb the phone tends to slow down. im guessing you fall under this criteria. ive never had any lags or freezes on vanir's builds till today, if you want the most stable build of 4.3 its the 26/10/2013 nightly by newclearmistake. ive found that as the most stable one and reliable one till now

Frustrated with my P20

I have had my P20 for about three month now... and it's OK but the Huawei "enhancements" and some other things are very frustrating.
1) Almost none of my "background" stuff works... Meaning things like Google Photo backup, SMS Backup & Restore scheduled backups, and other scheduled services don't run until I open the apps. Not much good to have automatic backups if they aren't automatic. Also, Google Rewards does not notify me of new surveys. Things that happen in the background seems to happen for a short time after you open the app, then they just stop.
2) Multitasking is a joke... On my old Moto G5+, I could have Facebook, Candy Crush Saga (don't judge, I have invested too much time to quit), Pandora, MeWe, Gmail, Messenger, Nine Mail, and a host of other apps running with no issues switching back and forth without them "reloading". On my P20 with the same RAM and supposedly a faster processor, if I am in Candy Crush Saga and switch to Facebook, then switch back, Candy Crush reloads when I was in the middle of level... Much less trying to have Pandora or a few other things going simultaneously. And yet I typically have 1.8-2.1GB of RAM available, it's impossible to actually multitask without apps restarting constantly.
3) Delayed or no notifications... From most apps... Gmail, Facebook, XDA, Nine (a real problem, this is my work email), Calendar, etc. Almost every app that isn't open gives delayed notification, sometimes a minute or two, sometimes hours, sometimes not until it is opened. Other times notifications show up, but no sound is given at all.
These things all seem to be related to how aggressive the memory and application management is to maintain the battery... Sort of making up for the hardware's inefficiencies through software. But it works, battery life is quite good.
4) Inability to change "default" apps like the Gallery... I hate the Gallery, but I love Google Photos as the "gallery" app. You can change it in the settings to the default, but few applications "honor" that setting. And for some reason the Gallery doesn't see all the photos I download with Photos. Weird... And even when you set other non-Huawei apps as defaults, it only works sometimes. This goes back to EMUI's software framework I think. Never had this issue on Motos, Nokias, Pixels, etc.
5) More of an annoyance than anything else, but what the heck is with the lock screen wallpaper? I can't get rid of the Huawei papers, they show up no matter what I do or how many of my own I add, the stock ones keep showing up. I have gone into the lock screen settings and disabled ALL of the embedded ones, and only my folder of about 50 or so images, and I keep getting the stock Huawei ones show up in the rotation.
Then there is the lockups... For example, open Google and search for something, switch to images, and maybe turn on GIF filter or something... This thing will grind to a halt in nothing flat, granted my old Moto would lag a bit, but it was 100 times better than this thing. I get the same thing in some apps but not others without consistency. Or if my UC-One app for work rings, sometimes it works, other times it locks up tight and needs a hard reboot to recover... No other phone out of the 80 or so at work does this. It's just so inconsistent.
And my last gripe is the data lag... At random times, regardless if on mobile data or WiFi, it will just lag out for 10 seconds to 2 minutes, usually once or twice a day, but not consistently... Everything looks fine, good signal strength regardless of source and other devices work fine, but no data will be moving and videos freeze and buffer, Facebook pictures don't load, etc. Granted, this really started after the May 2019 update.
It sounds like I hate this phone, but I do like a lot of things about it... The battery life if good, the charge times are good, the camera is excellent, the sound quality is acceptable, nice screen, not too big or overweight. But man, that new Pixel 3a XL at $20/month is sure looking pretty good.
Am I all alone here, or do others have the same issues?

Oh dude. 99 % of things you mentioned can be handled in the phone settings like telling phone not to shut apps in the background. You should Google before you write things down.
Ragarding your last point with lag: try doing a soft reset and install you carrier settings once again.
I've got the phone for half a year now and after searching and changing some settings it works better than anything else I've seen on a phone I paid 350 EUR for.

EuBir said:
Oh dude. 99 % of things you mentioned can be handled in the phone settings like telling phone not to shut apps in the background. You should Google before you write things down.
Ragarding your last point with lag: try doing a soft reset and install you carrier settings once again.
I've got the phone for half a year now and after searching and changing some settings it works better than anything else I've seen on a phone I paid 350 EUR for.
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I take no offense from your comment, but I am not a noob... I have been working with Android since Eclair and smartphones in general much longer, including working on several ROM development teams and am an RC here. I did Google and DID turn off Huawei's "App Launch" management that I assume you are talking about trying to stop the optimizations from EMUI, and a few other things, but this is AFTER that. Although some of them seemed to help a little, it doesn't fix the problems.
Not only have I soft reset, I have done complete factory resets and all of my carrier settings are current... The lag also occurs on WiFi.
My post was kind of a rant, not necessarily looking for a solution unless there was one, and I was looking to see if I was the only one with these issues. Nor am I saying this isn't a good phone... Many of the things I have talked about would not bother many people.

In my case, I'm happy with the phone. Obviously I had some other problem, especially in some of the points you mentioned in the post. As the backup of Google Photos that did not work, but when I opened the app. However, selecting that all applications start manually has worked correctly for me.
I have disabled several applications using ADB. I know it does not erase them definitively, but hey, it's something. I also hate or just do not like the amount of applications that the phone has installed, I see them as unnecessary. I've always tried to use Google apps: calendar, dialer, calculator, clock, contacts, file manager, keep notes, etc. (that means I also disabled the original dialer).
But there is something that haunts me since I upgraded to EMUI 9. And it is a bug in recent applications that has a blue shadow that only appears when using a launcher. As I read, the solution is to disable the EMUI launcher, I did it once, but I prefer the appearance of recent applications of EMUI 9 than the previous ones. (Although I believe that this is poorly implemented).

Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
Your battery will take a small hit.

The biggest issue is the wifi, very capricious
I have no problem watching a 1080p stream on twitch... but loading the newsfeed on FB, twitter, is sometimes impossible. I have to switch to 4g to load the newsfeed and it's very annoying ... Sometimes i can browse the internet for 5minutes, then nothing would load, for no reason ...
The battery management settings is also very aggressive, and notifications often displayed 1h, 2h late. Occasionally i get a "1 message from " " ... 1 day" on messenger app
One thing i really miss is viper4audio ... I did everything, i can't get this thing to work.
Appart from that, it's a good medium range phone.

maxime4611 said:
The biggest issue is the wifi, very capricious
I have no problem watching a 1080p stream on twitch... but loading the newsfeed on FB, twitter, is sometimes impossible. I have to switch to 4g to load the newsfeed and it's very annoying ... Sometimes i can browse the internet for 5minutes, then nothing would load, for no reason ...
The battery management settings is also very aggressive, and notifications often displayed 1h, 2h late. Occasionally i get a "1 message from " " ... 1 day" on messenger app
One thing i really miss is viper4audio ... I did everything, i can't get this thing to work.
Appart from that, it's a good medium range phone.
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I don't know what phone you have.I think you are on a wrong thread.This is for Huawei P20 which is a premium phone not a midrange phone.

It's not a 800€+ phone, and there's the p20 pro. I bought it for 379€ in europe, just a month after it's release. So for me it's more a medium range phone ^^ the top medium range

costindaemon said:
Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
Your battery will take a small hit.
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Thank you so much for this. I was so tired of having to reload recent apps. It was so bad on my phone that just switching between 2 apps would close the first.

maxime4611 said:
It's not a 800€+ phone, and there's the p20 pro. I bought it for 379€ in europe, just a month after it's release. So for me it's more a medium range phone ^^ the top medium range
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Well,for me there are the specifications that make a phone premium/midrange or entry-level.The P20 has specifications that matches a premium 2018 phone.If you were so lucky to find a new P20 in spring 2018 for less than 400 euros,good for you.

costindaemon said:
Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
Your battery will take a small hit.
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Ryandos said:
Thank you so much for this. I was so tired of having to reload recent apps. It was so bad on my phone that just switching between 2 apps would close the first.
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You don't need to disable the Power Genius app, it can actually do some good... disabling it is functionally equivalent to going to Settings -> Battery -> App Launch and turning off "Manage All Automatically" and that will leave you like most other Android device with the kernel managing everything.
I disabled this at first after @costindaemon mentioned it, but Gmail app notifications, especially for non-Gmail accounts, got wonky... So I re-enabled Power Genius but turned it off as I stated above, then went through the apps and turned some on that I wanted "suppressed"... Gmail is an enigma here though, if it's management is turned off I had issues with notifications and accounts, and in App Launch it had a warning saying something like that, so I turned it on for that app and it's been good since. I have since just monitored the usage with GSAM's App Sucker and anything high on the battery usage list that I didn't want I turned on the Manage Automatically for that app and it no longer misbehaved. Think I have found the happy medium here.
I still have some issues with the phone, most just annoyances now... not to the level of frustration I was at before though. Still looking at that Pixel 3a XL though... it's in the cart, financing approved, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger yet. lol

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You don't need to disable the Power Genius app, it can actually do some good...
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You're right. I made a mistake in thinking that disabling power genie worked, when in reality it was just rebooting my phone that temporarily fixed the problem.
I did a bit of googling into a "ram leak" on the P20 and it was actually because I was using a 3rd party launcher (Nova). The solution was to disable the stock Huawei launcher, and since I did that 2 days ago my free ram has not gone below 1000mb. I've installed another launcher in case Nova mucks up.
But it looks like you've moved onto the 3a now, hopefully it's better than the awful software experience that comes with this phone xD. I definitely won't be buying Huawei in the future.

Ryandos said:
You're right. I made a mistake in thinking that disabling power genie worked, when in reality it was just rebooting my phone that temporarily fixed the problem.
I did a bit of googling into a "ram leak" on the P20 and it was actually because I was using a 3rd party launcher (Nova). The solution was to disable the stock Huawei launcher, and since I did that 2 days ago my free ram has not gone below 1000mb. I've installed another launcher in case Nova mucks up.
But it looks like you've moved onto the 3a now, hopefully it's better than the awful software experience that comes with this phone xD. I definitely won't be buying Huawei in the future.
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Yeah, I got my Pixel on Monday... Already think it's 10 times better, except the camera. That 2x "optical zoom" was damn nice although the Pixel's pictures seem a better quality even though they take longer to process. For the camera, I'm still giving the edge to the Pixel but I haven't played with it much yet.
All my issues are gone now and battery life is noticeably better. The Huawei will be going up on the local classified ad sites soon, hopefully the market for them isn't completely tanked.
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Your lockscreen issue is solved by deleting the excess wallpapers from the lockscreen. As you cycle into the first one, tap it and...
Any issues you have don't exist for me. Likely because i always first disable/uninstall most major google apps immediately.
Any problems i've noticed don't appear to me as device specific but rather OS related. To me, this thing performs quite well with impressively low battery drain by comparison.

Question Why is my phone running hot?

Anyone know how I might go about diagnosing why my phone has been running much warmer than usual? Just browsing Facebook (posts, not video) for about 5 minutes with brightness around 25% the temp was up to 41 degrees. It happened earlier today when I was just using Chrome, and it happens most days now. The issue began when I updated to 11.2.8.8 (the very next day), and the phone overheated several times the first few days, evidenced by the system warning about temperature, then recovering several minutes later. I haven't seen the system warning since then, but it's frequently above 40 degrees just doing everyday tasks. Oddly, I haven't noticed it overheating when playing games.
I usually run Omega kernel, which has always run cooler than stock during both normal use and heavy gaming, but this issue has occurred with both stock and Omega, so it's not kernel-related. The only magisk modules I have installed are debloater (for YouTube only), font manager, and systemless hosts, so that's not it either.
Maybe some app going haywire (how to find it? Nothing in battery usage) or some system behavior that changed in 11.2.8.8? Anyone else have this issue or find what's causing it?

That's just how this phone is. It was worse when the phone released before all of the updates. They've been slowly trying to fix it with each update. The 888 is a hot *****.

TheKnux said:
That's just how this phone is. It was worse when the phone released before all of the updates. They've been slowly trying to fix it with each update. The 888 is a hot *****.
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I remember having that complaint when I first got it, especially when gaming, but it's been fine for me since like April, until this last update. And with Omega several degrees cooler. So there has to be something new causing it....

terlynn4 said:
I remember having that complaint when I first got it, especially when gaming, but it's been fine for me since like April, until this last update. And with Omega several degrees cooler. So there has to be something new causing it....
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What version of Omega are you on? What build of OOS? AA, BA, DA? Are there any unusual rogue apps that you've noticed running more than usual?

TheKnux said:
What version of Omega are you on? What build of OOS? AA, BA, DA? Are there any unusual rogue apps that you've noticed running more than usual?
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Latest version of Omega (8/7) since yesterday, but was having the same issue on the previous build (7/30). I'm on OOS 11.2.8.8 BA.
I haven't noticed any apps using more battery than expected, but I guess that might be part of my question... If there are any, what's the best way to find them? I'm not seeing any useful info in BBS or anything in GSam I wouldn't expect, except overall battery drain is a bit higher when it's been running hot. I do have a lot of apps installed and should probably clean up what I don't use, so I guess that's a place to start.

Find which apks are using the battery.
Google system apks are prime suspects.
Trash apps like FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn... none of that junkware runs on my device, ever.
Examine all startup apks closely, take out the trash.
Power management can end up causing excessive battery usage, try turning it off.
Track down each battery hog and deal with it on a case by case basis rather than the flip a switch shotgun approach.
I use Karma Firewall's logging feature to help track down offenders.
Dependencies... sometimes the source of the high usage is hidden. What apks and services are running? What apks are using what services and why? What's apks are getting cached first when you clear them all? Any memory leaks?
Play with it... Androids wuv attention

blackhawk said:
Find which apks are using the battery.
Google system apks are prime suspects.
Trash apps like FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn... none of that junkware runs on my device, ever.
Examine all startup apks closely, take out the trash.
Power management can end up causing excessive battery usage, try turning it off.
Track down each battery hog and deal with it on a case by case basis rather than the flip a switch shotgun approach.
I use Karma Firewall's logging feature to help track down offenders.
Dependencies... sometimes the source of the high usage is hidden. What apks and services are running? What apks are using what services and why? What's apks are getting cached first when you clear them all? Any memory leaks?
Play with it... Androids wuv attention
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Good ideas. I just installed Karma Firewall and will see if it turns up anything.
How do you manage startup apps and running services? I used to use Servicely, but with Android 11 I find that even when I disable apps at startup they still start on their own, and it seems to use more battery than it saves. I've since disabled all apps of that kind and just let Android manage things itself. The only thing I do is go to individual apps and turn on battery optimization and disable background data if not needed, and I keep apps I don't use often in Icebox, including Facebook, which is the only social media type app I have. (Uninstalling FB isn't an option unfortunately.)
What do you mean by "which apps are getting cached first when you clear them all?" and how might I find it there are memory leaks?

terlynn4 said:
Good ideas. I just installed Karma Firewall and will see if it turns up anything.
How do you manage startup apps and running services? I used to use Servicely, but with Android 11 I find that even when I disable apps at startup they still start on their own, and it seems to use more battery than it saves. I've since disabled all apps of that kind and just let Android manage things itself. The only thing I do is go to individual apps and turn on battery optimization and disable background data if not needed, and I keep apps I don't use often in Icebox, including Facebook, which is the only social media type app I have. (Uninstalling FB isn't an option unfortunately.)
What do you mean by "which apps are getting cached first when you clear them all?" and how might I find it there are memory leaks?
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Karma's logging feature doesn't work in 10 and above I believe, I run Pie. See what you got though. It will still block apk internet access though and uses almost no battery.
The battery optimization option can cause erratic behavior and I never use it. Close apps when done with them. Brave browser for instance will run in the background until closed.
Developer options>running services memory leaks show up as an apk who's memory usage just keeps increasing with time. It can get quit large. These are rare and poorly coded programs. More common on Windows.
Keep an eye though for memory hungry apps as they may be using excessive power but not always. Small memory users can be worse. Dependencies, sometimes a apk or service keeps making repeated requests because of a disabled apk or service.
Killing Goggle play Services and Playstore when not needed will help battery life.
Google backup Transport, Framework and Firebase are always disabled on my device.
All carrier, manufacturer, and Google feedback are disabled.
I have a Samsung device and I use its Device Care app to clear the cached apks. Then watch as they repopulate. You'll need an app that does this. In running services you can disable a suspect apk and see how long it takes to come back. I find that Device Care is more effective though and that ability has let me track down some misbehaving system apks saving me a reload.
FB is weaponized and a proven liability. Known data miner. Purveyor of disinformation and dissent. It has ruined countless lives and careers. It deliberately makes you have load the app to be able to send messages. If this last year hasn't taught you what you need to know...
I used it for one month 15 years ago and knew what it was back then. It's far worse today.
Don't feed the beast.

blackhawk said:
Karma's logging feature doesn't work in 10 and above I believe, I run Pie. See what you got though. It will still block apk internet access though and uses almost no battery.
The battery optimization option can cause erratic behavior and I never use it. Close apps when done with them. Brave browser for instance will run in the background until closed.
Developer options>running services memory leaks show up as an apk who's memory usage just keeps increasing with time. It can get quit large. These are rare and poorly coded programs. More common on Windows.
Keep an eye though for memory hungry apps as they may be using excessive power but not always. Small memory users can be worse. Dependencies, sometimes a apk or service keeps making repeated requests because of a disabled apk or service.
Killing Goggle play Services and Playstore when not needed will help battery life.
Google backup Transport, Framework and Firebase are always disabled on my device.
All carrier, manufacturer, and Google feedback are disabled.
I have a Samsung device and I use its Device Care app to clear the cached apks. Then watch as they repopulate. You'll need an app that does this. In running services you can disable a suspect apk and see how long it takes to come back. I find that Device Care is more effective though and that ability has let me track down some misbehaving system apks saving me a reload.
FB is weaponized and a proven liability. Known data miner. Purveyor of disinformation and dissent. It has ruined countless lives and careers. It deliberately makes you have load the app to be able to send messages. If this last year hasn't taught you what you need to know...
I used it for one month 15 years ago and knew what it was back then. It's far worse today.
Don't feed the beast.
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Thanks for the info, it's interesting. However, if you're running Pie & not even using a OnePlus device, none of this is going to be applicable to my issue which is specific to OOS 11.2.8.8 on this particular device, only present since last month's update.
Re: FB - I'm required to use it for my job (well, second job), and I need it on my mobile device in order to do that job, so it's not going away. Freezing it when not in use is the best I can do.

terlynn4 said:
Thanks for the info, it's interesting. However, if you're running Pie & not even using a OnePlus device, none of this is going to be applicable to my issue which is specific to OOS 11.2.8.8 on this particular device, only present since last month's update.
Re: FB - I'm required to use it for my job (well, second job), and I need it on my mobile device in order to do that job, so it's not going away. Freezing it when not in use is the best I can do.
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You cross platform OS version and manufacturer to find solutions. I have a lot of posts here but few asking for help because I do the above or just keeps at it until I work it out as it's my issue.
*shakes head*
You've painted yourself into a corner.

@terlynn4 I use BatteryGuru because it uses root to find rogue apps that are draining battery unnecessarily. Give it a go and see if that helps pinpoint the problem at all.

Question Heating world record?

I don't know what's going on, but all of a sudden with same usage and room temp I got 50.8 degrees (123.4F) in 10m Genshin play, it burned to the touch when case got removed, maybe it becomes the new Note 7 one day.

Better stop whatever is causing that, it will shorten the Li's lifespan.

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Better stop whatever is causing that, it will shorten the Li's lifespan.
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Yeah, rebooted, did the same and it didn't get warm at all, some software issue maybe, it only happened this time, if it continues to happen I'll RMA

Justarandomguy said:
Yeah, rebooted, did the same and it didn't get warm at all, some software issue maybe, it only happened this time, if it continues to happen I'll RMA
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Cloud apps can use a lot of resources ie Google backup Transport.
It may have been a system optimizer app running in the background. On my less than new Note 10+ I just noticed the other week one on those was enabled when I didn't want it to be. oops.
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blackhawk said:
Cloud apps can use a lot of resources ie Google backup Transport.
It may have been a system optimizer app running in the background. On my less than new Note 10+ I just noticed the other week one on those was enabled when I didn't want it to be. oops.
Cause of strange occasional behavior found
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I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine

My p6 was heating much after april update, and phone performance while using it while charging is sluggish, and i feel its charging slower than before

Justarandomguy said:
I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine
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I would've been alarmed too and suspected the possibility of malware if no explanation could be found.
I don't allow firmware updates or upgrades. Same for Playstore, it's disabled. Results a fast and very stable phone; current load will 3yo in June. Still running on Pie. Security simply isn't an issue; no malware in all that time.
I rarely allow apps to update either; upgrades/updates can and do break things. On 3rd party apps updates can potentially deliver a malicious payload. Also no social media or sales apps are ever installed; browser login only. No online games, ever. I'm very careful about what I install and all email is kept in the cloud.

Justarandomguy said:
I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine
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Yes, there was issue with Google update on Pixels.
Google fixes overheating and battery drain issue on Pixel
No user action is needed. Google is currently rolling out a patch that fixes the overheating and battery drain issue reported by some users, particularly...
www.gsmarena.com

Dayuser said:
Yes, there was issue with Google update on Pixels.
Google fixes overheating and battery drain issue on Pixel
No user action is needed. Google is currently rolling out a patch that fixes the overheating and battery drain issue reported by some users, particularly...
www.gsmarena.com
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Looks like this was the issue, still, an app being able to mess things up that much, or a phone not being able to control itself are pretty bad things, the max temp I ever got was 45.9 degrees, on a sunny day, 34-36°, playing for half an hour with max brightness, I'll try to keep my device as much as I can, I'd like to have it until major updates end at least