So i really love the look, feel, options and performance of a clean fresh install of AOKP. However, the more apps i install and use the slower the performance of the UI gets. It slowly gets unbearable, seemingly, as i add back my apps that i like. Is this normal? I've tried a memory manager called Auto Memory Manager but that didn't seem to help at all. Is this just a consequence of having lots of apps installed? It's almost like i'm on an old windows machine and it needs to have a clean install every couple of months to get the "snappy" ui feel back. It bad enough sometimes where it takes the phone 5-10 seconds to actually answer a call once I click answer and 5 seconds to get to the home screen. What can i do?
TurbineTester said:
So i really love the look, feel, options and performance of a clean fresh install of AOKP. However, the more apps i install and use the slower the performance of the UI gets. It slowly gets unbearable, seemingly, as i add back my apps that i like. Is this normal? I've tried a memory manager called Auto Memory Manager but that didn't seem to help at all. Is this just a consequence of having lots of apps installed? It's almost like i'm on an old windows machine and it needs to have a clean install every couple of months to get the "snappy" ui feel back. It bad enough sometimes where it takes the phone 5-10 seconds to actually answer a call once I click answer and 5 seconds to get to the home screen. What can i do?
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flash vanir 4.3.1 build nightlies, you'll be SHOCKED on how fast it is,
shriom_manerker said:
flash vanir 4.3.1 build nightlies, you'll be SHOCKED on how fast it is,
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I've falshed it and i'm getting all my apps installed on it now to give it a go.
Do all ROM's get slower as you install more apps?
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Do all ROM's get slower as you install more apps?
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Yes, and from my perspective it's because many apps you install tend to automatically start as you e.g. power up the phone, turn on WiFi/data, etc. and then they keep running and taking CPU time and RAM in the background. Common task killers won't solve this easily. Best way to verify is to stop everything possible from Settings-Apps-Running.
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TurbineTester said:
I've falshed it and i'm getting all my apps installed on it now to give it a go.
Do all ROM's get slower as you install more apps?
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yes and no, yes if you install apps that sit in the background and start using data,check for updates constantly like facebook, the best thing to do is to use greenify and greenify that app so that it doesnt wake up your device and start eating ram n data. also note that if u do this to messenger apps you wont get notifications unless you open the app
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yes and no, yes if you install apps that sit in the background and start using data,check for updates constantly like facebook, the best thing to do is to use greenify and greenify that app so that it doesnt wake up your device and start eating ram n data. also note that if u do this to messenger apps you wont get notifications unless you open the app
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I've got all my apps up and runnign on Vanir now, and i will agree that it is far snappier than AOKP. However it has frozen on me twice. And i mean a hard freeze. Screen got stuck, audio looping on last few milisecs of sound and i had to pull the battery to get it out of the freeze.
Today, i got the first dose of it being slow like AOKP again. It was while it was charging in my car dock and i was trying to dial a phone number using rocket dial.
What are some typical apps that i should try to greenify? Sounds like i shouldn't greenify anything i want notificatinos from like phone, messaging and email. Anything else i should greenify or not greenify? Any tips on the freezing?
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I've got all my apps up and runnign on Vanir now, and i will agree that it is far snappier than AOKP. However it has frozen on me twice. And i mean a hard freeze. Screen got stuck, audio looping on last few milisecs of sound and i had to pull the battery to get it out of the freeze.
Today, i got the first dose of it being slow like AOKP again. It was while it was charging in my car dock and i was trying to dial a phone number using rocket dial.
What are some typical apps that i should try to greenify? Sounds like i shouldn't greenify anything i want notificatinos from like phone, messaging and email. Anything else i should greenify or not greenify? Any tips on the freezing?
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wow thats very weird ! one thing ive noticed is that if your internal storage (sdcard) space is less than 5 gb the phone tends to slow down. im guessing you fall under this criteria. ive never had any lags or freezes on vanir's builds till today, if you want the most stable build of 4.3 its the 26/10/2013 nightly by newclearmistake. ive found that as the most stable one and reliable one till now
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Hi, I'm new here and new to the Android platform in general - just bought my Evo 4G last week.
I rooted the phone and have been using the Fresh ROM, but have noticed that it has some pretty severe battery-draining issues, unless I'm just using the wrong apps and settings.
Either way, I wanted to try out some other ROMs but I cannot find anything that works well so far. I tried out Cyanogen but of course it has no 4G access. Kind of a waste of that extra $10/month huh?
MIUI had some acclaim on the forums, but once again: no 4G according to the update log.
I had read on MakeUseOf or a similar site that the Baked Snack ROM is a good option for staying purely lightweight.
Before trying any other ROMs, I wanted to get some community feedback. I generally use these apps for my phone:
Browser
Google Voice
Gmail
DropBox
Endomondo
Pulse (RSS Feeds)
Which ROM would be most recommended to maximize performance and battery life with these apps, while still taking advantage of 4G capability?
Thank you for the help.
Every phone is different so someone's experience with a particular kernal/ROM will not necessarily be the same for you.
You mentioned bad battery life you also mentioned that you bought the phone last week. Since its a new toy, all you are thinking about is spending time on it. If you have 10 hours worth of battery on a full charge but 6 of those hours are awake then you are getting good battery life.
I recomend just breaking in your toy (not breaking it) and you'll notice much better battery life and time goes on since you'll be using it less.
In the meantime:
1. limit your 3g when you're not using data
2. limit your screen brightness
3. live wallpapers are nice, but they can use some battery
4. I sign out of gtalk and make sure to turn off automatic logging in
5. Sync as often as you need to but not more than that.
Good points, thank you. And yes I've been using it constantly.
Nevertheless, I downloaded Advanced Task Killer to monitor what's going on at different times. I notice certain native apps always kick themselves on, and I was hoping to disable those.
For instance, Voicemail is constantly turning itself on and I don't need it - I use Google Voice. Is there a way to disable or uninstall this altogether?
On reboot, I notice a whole list of about 10-15 apps that start themselves up too, which I usually proceed to shut down since I obviously don't need all those running in the background. Is this a good idea?
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Good points, thank you. And yes I've been using it constantly.
Nevertheless, I downloaded Advanced Task Killer to monitor what's going on at different times. I notice certain native apps always kick themselves on, and I was hoping to disable those.
For instance, Voicemail is constantly turning itself on and I don't need it - I use Google Voice. Is there a way to disable or uninstall this altogether?
On reboot, I notice a whole list of about 10-15 apps that start themselves up too, which I usually proceed to shut down since I obviously don't need all those running in the background. Is this a good idea?
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Get rid of your task killer immediately - it does more harm than good. Quit worrying about apps popping up when you don't use them.
If you want to uninstall apps you don't use that are "system" apps get Root Explorer.
Yeah - if you want a good app killer, get System Monitor from the Android Market...its only a few bucks and it gives you a lot more insight as to what is being used and what is not. I had Task Killer, but it stopped working when the OTA Froyo update was launched - which sent me searching a Froyo compatable Task Killer...
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Yeah - if you want a good app killer, get System Monitor from the Android Market...its only a few bucks and it gives you a lot more insight as to what is being used and what is not. I had Task Killer, but it stopped working when the OTA Froyo update was launched - which sent me searching a Froyo compatable Task Killer...
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Task Killers are not needed on a andriod device it only restart the app thus causing problems and battery drainage in the long run...Most experienced users can tell you that they will do more harm to your system then good...system panel is a good app for figuring out if you have a rogue app taking up all your cpu and not letting your phone sleep...good luck happy flashing
Again, I appreciate all the advice here, but I don't believe anyone has addressed the issue at hand:
What are some good options for a light-weight ROM that allows usage of my 4G capability?
Anyone know just why various apps prevent the phone from sleeping despite the fact they are not shown to be running, nor reported by Spare Parts as the culprit? I mean there are some apps I've had to uninstall to get my phone to sleep, but can't figure out why it is happening. I've been using Spare Parts to see if I can catch the bad actor, but it only will tell me if it is not sleeping and the other options don't hint at the problem either. I use my wife's Epic (which never has a problem sleeping) to compare against, as she has fewer apps. If an app is not running in the background but keeps the phone away just by it's very presence on the phone, what can cause that and why is there no way to find out the culprit besides hit and miss deleting? Too bad there's not a Wakelock app or setting on the phone that you could use to let you have the app, but keep it quiet.
Rogue apps like this seem to be the number one issue with huge battery use.
You can do stuff like disable background data sync... Uninstall facebook and apps like it. Remove widgets... etc..
But in the end it's such a PITA to manage... and when you finally get it working right, all it takes is "hey this looks cool... /download" and you're back where you started.
You're probably best off buying an extended battery.... My phone lasts 10 hours now with whatever it is that keeps my phone from sleeping.
Have you tried using Watchdog?
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Rogue apps like this seem to be the number one issue with huge battery use.
You can do stuff like disable background data sync... Uninstall facebook and apps like it. Remove widgets... etc..
But in the end it's such a PITA to manage... and when you finally get it working right, all it takes is "hey this looks cool... /download" and you're back where you started.
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Oh how true! LMAO!
orb360 said:
Rogue apps like this seem to be the number one issue with huge battery use.
You can do stuff like disable background data sync... Uninstall facebook and apps like it. Remove widgets... etc..
But in the end it's such a PITA to manage... and when you finally get it working right, all it takes is "hey this looks cool... /download" and you're back where you started.
You're probably best off buying an extended battery.... My phone lasts 10 hours now with whatever it is that keeps my phone from sleeping.
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Have you tried using Watchdog?
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Yes, I tried it, but it apparently only warns if an app reaches some threshold of cpu usage. It didn't help me find an app that was only preventing my phone from sleeping...unless I wasn't using it correctly.
I've experienced this issue twice now wherein my phone would get extremely slow and laggy to the point that it's unbearable to use anymore and the only solution was a reboot. Launcher keeps on restarting, messaging app takes 5 seconds to open, camera is lagging etc and this is after a week of uptime at least.
Why does this happen in the first place and am I the only one experiencing this? I've been running only maguro milestone 5 and franco for the past month, no other roms whatsoever. Once I power down and reboot everything becomes nice and fast again.
Never happened to me on stock.
I'd say it's "normal" for a phone to slow down over time as you add apps and things, but it should never slow down to a crawl and start crashing until you reboot.
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I've experienced this issue twice now wherein my phone would get extremely slow and laggy to the point that it's unbearable to use anymore and the only solution was a reboot. Launcher keeps on restarting, messaging app takes 5 seconds to open, camera is lagging etc and this is after a week of uptime at least.
Why does this happen in the first place and am I the only one experiencing this? I've been running only maguro milestone 5 and franco for the past month, no other roms whatsoever. Once I power down and reboot everything becomes nice and fast again.
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normal for it to slow down a bit but not like how you described it. i'm running stock though.
It's not normal. Install some monitoring tool like "OS Monitor" and run it when the problem happens to find out the culprit.
Oh and installing multiple apps will not slow down the phone. This is not Windows 95.
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It's not normal. Install some monitoring tool like "OS Monitor" and run it when the problem happens to find out the culprit.
Oh and installing multiple apps will not slow down the phone. This is not Windows 95.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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lol at the windows 95 comment
although the # of apps you have alone shouldnt slow your phone down, if you have a ton of apps running in the background eating up ram it may slow down if the available free ram you have is really really low
when your phone is laggy check the ram first
Thanks guys I'll try OS monitor to see what's running. It just happened again right now and this is getting annoying, even typing is laggy but after a reboot everything is normal again.
Kill background apps.
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So far I have not had that issue. Probably like everyone else said. There is some run away app that's eating up your memory
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Its not normal, but aokp does have a bug. Check your system process in system panel, it grows larger over time if you use lock screen options etc.
hey,
so im having some kind of trouble with my HOX.. when its just sitting on my desk it wakes itself up every now and then, sometimes very frequently and sometimes not.. with no specific pattern.. when im working on my laptop i just notice the screen turns itself on and then goes back to sleep.. i dunno whats causing it and its starting to get really annoying!! it's been happening for 2 days now, im running viperX 2.. any ideas on what may be causing this?
PS. i didnt install anything or change any settings before this started to happen
thanks in advance
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hey,
so im having some kind of trouble with my HOX.. when its just sitting on my desk it wakes itself up every now and then, sometimes very frequently and sometimes not.. with no specific pattern.. when im working on my laptop i just notice the screen turns itself on and then goes back to sleep.. i dunno whats causing it and its starting to get really annoying!! it's been happening for 2 days now, im running viperX 2.. any ideas on what may be causing this?
PS. i didnt install anything or change any settings before this started to happen
thanks in advance
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Same issu here... I think that all custom roms has this problem... But I was told that could be a recovery problem(because it also wakes up when charging) so I'm using AOKP(v1.2 AWESOME battery life now) with TWRP recovery (I was using CWM)... Tonight I'm gonna check if it still waking up itself.
The recovery has little to do with the running ROM. Clockworkmod switches on the phone when nearly charged.
The phone waling and screen.coming on is much more likely to be a rogue app.
Waseem Manneh said:
hey,
so im having some kind of trouble with my HOX.. when its just sitting on my desk it wakes itself up every now and then, sometimes very frequently and sometimes not.. with no specific pattern.. when im working on my laptop i just notice the screen turns itself on and then goes back to sleep.. i dunno whats causing it and its starting to get really annoying!! it's been happening for 2 days now, im running viperX 2.. any ideas on what may be causing this?
PS. i didnt install anything or change any settings before this started to happen
thanks in advance
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try a fresh install performing full wipe, clearing cache and dalvik cache and also use fastboot erase cache command before flashing boot img
i am also on viper 2.01 and don't have any such problems
There is no way...
I just tried everything..
With any custom rom and custom recovery, the phone wake up itself when charging off...
Only with the stock rom and oficial recovery it works Ok. Hope they find a solution..
I noticed there is some kind of pattern, the screen all of a sudden starts to turn itself on and off slowly and then faster and then it reaches a point where it stays on for about 10 seconds and then goes back off for a while.. it's very strange !! i've been using viperX for a long time and this never happened... at first i thought it was the productivity lockscreen notifying me of new emails or smth but that wasnt it... i only have google apps, xda app, facebook and chrome.. could it be one of these?? maybe its an app that uses internet because i noticed it happens much less or sometimes doesnt happen at all when i turn wifi off
task killer or smart stay ex
Had happened to me last evening. Random auto wakeup, first the touch buttons lightup and then
the screen. Then it goes to sleep on its own and then wakeup again. At first I thought it was related
to motion sensor because it always managed to coincide when I started typing in my laptop. But later
I noticed it wasn't the case as I was away from the table when it reached a very fast frequency
similar to notification LED,flashing sleeping flashing sleeping.... then complete sleep.
Went in task manager in search of rouge app, found "HTC Hub","Google Search","Google Play"
and a few other were constantly being slaughtered by the "Android Task Killer Free".
Exited the "Android Task Manager Free" and the auto wakeup has completely disappeared since then.
I also closed smart stay EX, which might have been the culprit as well since I have got dust in my front
camera and those might be recognized as faces or eyes?
I suggest you check for stray apps or task killers.
Make sure that none of the apps(background) crashing or being killed.
I believe custom roms try to enhance the performance by limiting the minimum
memory balance before which background inactive apps are killed by android.
Might be the cause but not quite sure.
So thats that, worth a try. Go to [Apps-->Running] and check if some app is disappearing and reappearing
on its own. Force stop it. Reboot the phone. Avoid any memory tweaking and task killer,
android is smart enough to know when to kill and when to keep apps.
Note: I am running a stock 4.0.3(1.29), no unlock,rooting etc...
Good luck
Rowlf said:
Had happened to me last evening. Random auto wakeup, first the touch buttons lightup and then
the screen. Then it goes to sleep on its own and then wakeup again. At first I thought it was related
to motion sensor because it always managed to coincide when I started typing in my laptop. But later
I noticed it wasn't the case as I was away from the table when it reached a very fast frequency
similar to notification LED,flashing sleeping flashing sleeping.... then complete sleep.
Went in task manager in search of rouge app, found "HTC Hub","Google Search","Google Play"
and a few other were constantly being slaughtered by the "Android Task Killer Free".
Exited the "Android Task Manager Free" and the auto wakeup has completely disappeared since then.
I also closed smart stay EX, which might have been the culprit as well since I have got dust in my front
camera and those might be recognized as faces or eyes?
I suggest you check for stray apps or task killers.
Make sure that none of the apps(background) crashing or being killed.
I believe custom roms try to enhance the performance by limiting the minimum
memory balance before which background inactive apps are killed by android.
Might be the cause but not quite sure.
So thats that, worth a try. Go to [Apps-->Running] and check if some app is disappearing and reappearing
on its own. Force stop it. Reboot the phone. Avoid any memory tweaking and task killer,
android is smart enough to know when to kill and when to keep apps.
Note: I am running a stock 4.0.3(1.29), no unlock,rooting etc...
Good luck
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That worked !! but in a different way, i have no task killers and the ROM did not kill apps before because it didnt use to happen until recently, but i tried to clean up my phone and uninstalled some apps and it stopped since then, problem is i uninstalled them all at once so i dont know which app exactly was the cause but sure it was one of 'em.. maybe it got corrupted and started crashing in the background or something because i didnt install any apps recently... this didnt happen not even once since i cleaned up those apps.. thanx a lot for helping
So the root cause could be thee Apps that has permissions to wack/prevent (android.permission.WAKE_LOCK) your devices from sleeping..
I experienced it occasionally while 'smart stay EX' was on beta time..
HebeGuess said:
So the root cause could be thee Apps that has permissions to wack/prevent (android.permission.WAKE_LOCK) your devices from sleeping..
I experienced it occasionally while 'smart stay EX' was on beta time..
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I recommend installing "Wakelock detector" which shows statistics of WAKE_LOCK usage !!
Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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since you mention facebook what's your sync situation like? just a suggestion as I remember similar threads where constant syncing was causing issues... if android os is using that much battery something is amiss... its just a matter of figuring out what...
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since you mention facebook what's your sync situation like? just a suggestion as I remember similar threads where constant syncing was causing issues... if android os is using that much battery something is amiss... its just a matter of figuring out what...
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FB's refresh interval is set to 1 hour. Is that what you are referring to?
maxspiderx said:
Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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Welcome to ics. I get the same thing and have tried everything. Good news is they are pumping out new builds pretty quick to hopefully they are working out all the kinks.
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try a different rom.