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[Q] unable to wake up my phone

Hi,
I'm using HTC Desire Z about 3 days but I have a serious issue.
My phone sometimes (f.e. if its screen locked for a long time) doesn't respond to me. I'm trying to open it with power button, no response. First when I saw this, I thought because of low battery but when I try to recharge still no response.
The phone only works if I remove battery for 3-5 seconds and insert again.
I have no clue what (or which program) does that.
I'm using stock rom 2.2.1. Here is my widgets: Agenda, messages, friend stream, watch with 8 shortcuts, bookmarks (visual one), gReader Pro, Grooveshark, PowerAMP, Radio.
Also I installed some other installed applications: Youtube, simple Last.FM scrobbler, Lyrics APP, Advanced Task Manager, Diversion, NASA App, Wikipedia, Google SKY, Zaytung (Turkish site app, like news site), Facebook for Android, Tunewiki, Kindle, Connectbot, Meebo IM, Alchemy, Angry Birds, MoboPlayer, RockPlayer, IMDB, Foursquare, Goggles, Skype, Dropbox, Barcode Scanner, WhatsApp Messenger, Camera360, MangaWatcher, PaperCamera, Photaf, Piacas Tool, Raging Thunder 2, Wifi File Explorer.
I'm using pattern lock for screen lock.
One last thing, this happened after I forgot my phone at charge for 7-8 hours. But this is its 2nd charge. And after charge I've transfer some data to phone (I've 8gig sd card, now there is approx. 32mb free at SD, 818MB free at internal storage). Maybe I should remove some files from my SD Card?
That's all. What can I do?
Thanks.

are you rooted, and over or under clocking?
Your SDcard being almost full shouldn't be any kind of issue. What kind of free phone storage do you have? And what amount of free RAM do you have when your phone is just sitting at a homescreen?
If you're not overclocked or rooted, it sounds like you might be looking at some sort of either super poorly coded app (or combination of apps) thats crashing your phone while its sleeping, or you have a hardware defect

martonikaj said:
are you rooted, and over or under clocking?
Your SDcard being almost full shouldn't be any kind of issue. What kind of free phone storage do you have? And what amount of free RAM do you have when your phone is just sitting at a homescreen?
If you're not overclocked or rooted, it sounds like you might be looking at some sort of either super poorly coded app (or combination of apps) thats crashing your phone while its sleeping, or you have a hardware defect
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No, like I said before I'm using stock rom and I do nothing except installing app and transferring some files (music, video etc. to SD card)
32mb free at SD, 818MB free at internal storage. Now, I opened advanced task manager and I have 111M free RAM. And I see there is a lot of application running. (including skype, whatsapp, grooveshark etc.)
I read something like that from another phone. They do factory data reset and It fixes that issue. I didn't try but they say.

mesutcank said:
No, like I said before I'm using stock rom and I do nothing except installing app and transferring some files (music, video etc. to SD card)
32mb free at SD, 818MB free at internal storage. Now, I opened advanced task manager and I have 111M free RAM. And I see there is a lot of application running. (including skype, whatsapp, grooveshark etc.)
I read something like that from another phone. They do factory data reset and It fixes that issue. I didn't try but they say.
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Thanks for the info. So if your phone is completely stock and its crashing while sleeping, it looks to be an issue with an app or bad combo of apps. You can try to troubleshoot on your own by uninstalling or monitoring apps, or you can always do a factory reset and start over, hoping to fix the issue. I personally would try to troubleshoot some recently installed apps or large changes you've made before you decide to bother with a full factory reset.
Also on a side note, ditch the advanced task killer. Its not necessary on anything over Android 2.1, and drains more resources and can actually cause problems. If you want to know what's going on with your apps, use something like Watchdog Lite (which I use), that monitors apps and informs you if they're misbehaving above normal levels, but never kills or changes any apps without your approval.

martonikaj said:
Thanks for the info. So if your phone is completely stock and its crashing while sleeping, it looks to be an issue with an app or bad combo of apps. You can try to troubleshoot on your own by uninstalling or monitoring apps, or you can always do a factory reset and start over, hoping to fix the issue. I personally would try to troubleshoot some recently installed apps or large changes you've made before you decide to bother with a full factory reset.
Also on a side note, ditch the advanced task killer. Its not necessary on anything over Android 2.1, and drains more resources and can actually cause problems. If you want to know what's going on with your apps, use something like Watchdog Lite (which I use), that monitors apps and informs you if they're misbehaving above normal levels, but never kills or changes any apps without your approval.
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Yes, I'm thinking on monitoring applications but is there a way to look the report after phone crashes? Trying Watchdog.
Let's try that way.
Thanks.

Now, I'm using watchdog for 10 hours. Archive Viewer (normally) and News exceeded threshold. I looked at News. (actually it is Google reader) It tries to sync my Google reader account and in my account there are a lot of items (and a lot of unread ones, subscribed to 35 site, each one has min. 1000 unread item and min. (unread count)*3 read items, I suppose)
Maybe this application causes this problem. I closed syncing (I'm already using gReader) and I hope this will fix my problem.

mesutcank said:
Now, I'm using watchdog for 10 hours. Archive Viewer (normally) and News exceeded threshold. I looked at News. (actually it is Google reader) It tries to sync my Google reader account and in my account there are a lot of items (and a lot of unread ones, subscribed to 35 site, each one has min. 1000 unread item and min. (unread count)*3 read items, I suppose)
Maybe this application causes this problem. I closed syncing (I'm already using gReader) and I hope this will fix my problem.
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Yea that sounds like it might be an issue (but you never know). Basically what can be happening is that its overwhelming the phone while sleeping and its crashing, and there's not enough CPU power to turn on the screen or wake up.
Also, don't know of any way to get a log of your crashes without root. Someone else can chime in if they know.

martonikaj said:
Yea that sounds like it might be an issue (but you never know). Basically what can be happening is that its overwhelming the phone while sleeping and its crashing, and there's not enough CPU power to turn on the screen or wake up.
Also, don't know of any way to get a log of your crashes without root. Someone else can chime in if they know.
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Also, when phone crashed I tried to call my phone number and the phone doesn't ring (it says can not be reached). So, It totally closes the phone after crashes. But, the interesting thing is I'm unable to open with its power button. I think this is because phone's fast boot option is enabled. That may can explain why power button doesn't work and removing and inserting battery works.

Hi again,
I talked with another desire z owner who has that problem. He said that if you use navigation and turn off gps sattelite from settings and lock screen. Phone crashes. I tried that. And phone crashed .
So, I'm planning to ask for replacement from store.
What else can I do?

[Q] Apps randomly starting/stopping; Unused apps being cached?

Since I noticed this behaviour last night, I've been obsessively watching various apps start and stop on their own. On the App Manager's "Running" tab, I keep seeing several apps start and stop on their own, despite the fact that I've turned off any network-related syncing or listening options in their individual settings.
Also, there seem to be far too many apps in the Cached Processes screen, most of them I haven't run at all for a long time.
Is this behaviour normal? (Android's, not my obsessing...)
I'm worried that something else is going on in the background and killing my battery. Or worse, scanning my system. (Though I did run an antivirus without any problems being detected.)
Thx.

I recently asked a similar question regarding lowering background processes allowed. Whether background and cached apps affect battery. I learned it is a trade off between using more battery to restart or pull from cache. I opted to do a heavy debloat and freeze certain apps or processes I don't need. I also use cool tools to watch my memory and CPU info and battery monitor widget pro to monitor mA and CPU temp. I enjoy trying to max out efficiency. I didn't see my post anymore in the last few pages but if its further back the guys linked me to some great info about processes. Sorry for not linking thread. I will when I get a chance. Hope it helps you too.

Bubba Fett said:
I recently asked a similar question regarding lowering background processes allowed. Whether background and cached apps affect battery. I learned it is a trade off between using more battery to restart or pull from cache. I opted to do a heavy debloat and freeze certain apps or processes I don't need. I also use cool tools to watch my memory and CPU info and battery monitor widget pro to monitor mA and CPU temp. I enjoy trying to max out efficiency. I didn't see my post anymore in the last few pages but if its further back the guys linked me to some great info about processes. Sorry for not linking thread. I will when I get a chance. Hope it helps you too.
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Thanks! I'll take a look in your post history to see if I can find it.
I'm less concerned with whether or not the apps are actually running or cached, what worries me is that they all seem to be constantly starting and stopping for a few seconds. Watching the Running apps screen I can see many different apps cycling over and over. The process starts, goes on a few seconds, then stops. Then another one pops up. Then another, etc etc.

I looked back about a dozen pages and couldn't find it anymore but I think it was diablo009 that gave me links to some really helpful stuff he had written. I'm not super proficient in maneuvering the forums but maybe you can find his posts with that info another way. Good luck.

Not sure if it loads my signature when posting from phone. But if it does, check Android Memory Management link in my signature.
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Bubba Fett said:
I looked back about a dozen pages and couldn't find it anymore but I think it was diablo009 that gave me links to some really helpful stuff he had written. I'm not super proficient in maneuvering the forums but maybe you can find his posts with that info another way. Good luck.
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(This is the one I found.)
I'm aware of that RAM usage with Android from similar articles I read last year, but it was really the automatic starting and stopping of processes/services that bugged me. I think it might just be a situation where if the app's on your phone there's nothing you can do about it if you've granted network access permissions. I probably naively assumed that if you granted those permissions where would be settings to disable network access within the apps.

Some of my observations:
An app prefetched into memory does not use CPU.
A prefetched app could be wiped from memory if more RAM is needed. After the memory intensive app quits, this could be loaded back.
If an app is used frequently, it would be one of the prime candidates to be considered for prefetching.
An app loaded (not prefetched) uses CPU based on its work, like it could be a daemon looking for updates.
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diablo009 said:
Some of my observations:
An app prefetched into memory does not use CPU.
A prefetched app could be wiped from memory if more RAM is needed. After the memory intensive app quits, this could be loaded back.
If an app is used frequently, it would be one of the prime candidates to be considered for prefetching.
An app loaded (not prefetched) uses CPU based on its work, like it could be a daemon looking for updates.
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The last one is what I am worried about. There are apps that are starting processes and then stopping repeatedly. A couple dozen different ones, including ones I have barely ever used. I've looked at some of those apps' settings and disabled any notifications or update checking, basically anything network related, but they keep showing up in my running apps/processes list throughout the day.

Not sure how Google market checks for app updates. It could be querying installed apps at regular intervals to check for their versions to compare to versions in market.
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diablo009 said:
Not sure how Google market checks for app updates. It could be querying installed apps at regular intervals to check for their versions to compare to versions in market.
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That's one thing I wondered about, but I have Google Play updates off. I guess it's possible that it still checks, though.
Thx for the reminder! I'm going to double-check my Play settings just in case something was reset during an update.

You could try something like Rom toolbox pro to stop startup programs if you use them infrequently. I have had a few issue stopping certain apps but a little tweaking and it works well. Juice Defender also has the option for disabling apps from accessing data/wifi or neither. I don't know about the process though. Thanks for spotting your name Diablo and helping out. Great info on the topics.

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Since I noticed this behaviour last night, I've been obsessively watching various apps start and stop on their own. On the App Manager's "Running" tab, I keep seeing several apps start and stop on their own, despite the fact that I've turned off any network-related syncing or listening options in their individual settings.
Also, there seem to be far too many apps in the Cached Processes screen, most of them I haven't run at all for a long time.
Is this behaviour normal? (Android's, not my obsessing...)
I'm worried that something else is going on in the background and killing my battery. Or worse, scanning my system. (Though I did run an antivirus without any problems being detected.)
Thx.
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I agree that if you don't use it, uninstall if you are able. Otherwise just disable it. This is unusual though. I randomly go into cached processes and only the things I use or that the system needs are there. On a rare basis something additional might pop up.

mediaserver

So a few weeks after getting my Nexus 7, I noticed my battery lasted nowhere near where it did when I had first got it. I discovered the culprit to be media server. I have researched quite a bit what it is, and tried many thing to rid myself of this battery draining task. My nexus hardly even lasts a full 24 hours anymore. It seems it runs, and restarts itself no matter what I do. I even unlocked my bootloader (completely erasing the device) and the problem still persists. It seems like the only way I can actually get the service to stop is when I plug the USB into a PC as a media device (for obvious reasons).
What can I do to make my Nexus 7 useful again?

The problem may or may not be Mediaserver itself.
Mediaserver is quite buggy and if you have media files (music, videos) that it doesn't like (e.g. with tags that it has problems decoding), you may get the battery drain (mediaserver is trying to index your files). Try to remove all media files and clear the Mediaserver data/cache.
Mediaserver is also used for audio/video playback/recording and some other app may cause it to run.

The only music I have on my device were pinned through the Play Music App (and probably within some apps n stuff)
I pretty much have no files on it currently regardless.
How to I clear the apps cache? It doesn't even show up as an application in the settings.

SLUSHIE said:
How to I clear the apps cache? It doesn't even show up as an application in the settings.
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The app is called 'Media Storage'.

Pixel 3XL Ram Management problem

Okay so the phone is great let me start there and virtually no lag or studder when using most apps again all. But I did notice today while using Google Maps, Pokemon Go, and Facebook messenger that switching between the apps there was a major system hang and a slow down. Also after having a bunch of apps open it ****s Pokemon go down completely from running in the background and even though it shows it's still open in the recents, when I go back to it, it starts up again like I just opened the app and reloaded it. Has anyone else noticed this issue? And if so is this something that could be fixed with an update or is this just bad ram management for 4gb of ram on this phone?

Pokemon Go is a terribly optimized heavy resource game, it reloads after using almost anything else on my Pixel 2

One thing I've noticed for some apps, if you have it battery optimized, it will do that. YouTube Music for me would. I would be in the car, stop and go in a gas station or whatever, come back out and it would startup like it just opened for the first time. Turned off optimization and hasn't done it since. But yeah, watch out for some games. Some are resource hogs.

mdonnelly1127 said:
Okay so the phone is great let me start there and virtually no lag or studder when using most apps again all. But I did notice today while using Google Maps, Pokemon Go, and Facebook messenger that switching between the apps there was a major system hang and a slow down. Also after having a bunch of apps open it ****s Pokemon go down completely from running in the background and even though it shows it's still open in the recents, when I go back to it, it starts up again like I just opened the app and reloaded it. Has anyone else noticed this issue? And if so is this something that could be fixed with an update or is this just bad ram management for 4gb of ram on this phone?
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This was happening to me on my Pixel 2 XL, and I thought it was a RAM management issue. Turns out it was battery optimization. I turned off battery optimization and PoGo stopped closing in the background. I did this for a couple of other programs I didn't want aggressively closed. It seems to have done the trick.

wtharp2 said:
This was happening to me on my Pixel 2 XL, and I thought it was a RAM management issue. Turns out it was battery optimization. I turned off battery optimization and PoGo stopped closing in the background. I did this for a couple of other programs I didn't want aggressively closed. It seems to have done the trick.
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So turning off adaptive battery helps you're saying?

mdonnelly1127 said:
So turning off adaptive battery helps you're saying?
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.

wtharp2 said:
Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Awesome, gonna give it a try, thank you

wtharp2 said:
Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Just tried it, unfortunately did not work... IDK what's up with this

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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Actually I restarted my phone after I did the changes and now it seems to be working? I'll test it through out the day but if that's all it was you're a life saver my friend. Thank you

wtharp2 said:
Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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It didn't work, see like when it gets 4 or 5 apps down the list it restarts itself when u try and reopen it .. thank you though

I think there's a RAM leak. I think there was one on the 2 XL too.

I saw someone in the comments of an article say there is way to fix this with root. Is there a magisk mod that helps with this?

probably the SWAP being used

You MOMOS. IT SAVES BATTERY. DO YOU GET IT?

More and more reports are coming up regarding this issue - playing music in the background and then using the camera, etc.
I have experienced it when using Smart AudioBook Player playing in the background and have google maps navigation running. All of a sudden, the audio bookstops playing. I have to switch to the audiobook and restart playback. It then happens again and when I restart the audiobook a second time, google maps' navigation gets closed out. I think google needs to issue a software update for their RAM management.

jrac86 said:
More and more reports are coming up regarding this issue - playing music in the background and then using the camera, etc.
I have experienced it when using Smart AudioBook Player playing in the background and have google maps navigation running. All of a sudden, the audio bookstops playing. I have to switch to the audiobook and restart playback. It then happens again and when I restart the audiobook a second time, google maps' navigation gets closed out. I think google needs to issue a software update for their RAM management.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/apps-closing-t3857299/post77946888
In addition to that @topjohnwu has stated:
Just checked the code, it seems that the configurations are read only once when it started. If kernel devs wants to tune LMK, they would either have to: a. Modify /system/bin/lmkd to allow runtime changes b. Use resetprop to modify those read-only props, and restart lmkd https://twitter.com/MishaalRahman/status/1054409086626861056
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Ram isn't a problem for me but I will be implementing simple lmk in FrankenKernel ,for those with issues it's probably just aggressive .. Should not be a huge deal going forward..
Sultan- https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...mmit/cd8c0ff4eba3310ffa016e1bd29b4b0bcd7baff5

Furthermore I think people are taking this a tad too far I have had the device since Friday and can't speak anything but great things and look forward to developing on it in the coming days

There is defiantly some ram issues, i have been using a few music apps that keep getting killed when im doing other things. im sitting at over 3gb of usage almost 700mb more usage then my pixel 2 xl with the same apps i use. Im sure it will be fixed just not sure it will be done with in my return window and since i got it from vzw i wont have the luxury of flashing better optimized kernels . sucks having issues like this but i think all my pixel nexus phones had some odd issues for the first few weeks/months

I noticed the RAM problem while using Amazon Music and Zombie's Run! The music would stop during the first song while the Run app still runs. It really sucks to have to stop my workout to make the music start. My 2XL never had this issue.
I'm on the fence. For this amount of money, I should be happy with it, not annoyed.

Question Why is my phone running hot?

Anyone know how I might go about diagnosing why my phone has been running much warmer than usual? Just browsing Facebook (posts, not video) for about 5 minutes with brightness around 25% the temp was up to 41 degrees. It happened earlier today when I was just using Chrome, and it happens most days now. The issue began when I updated to 11.2.8.8 (the very next day), and the phone overheated several times the first few days, evidenced by the system warning about temperature, then recovering several minutes later. I haven't seen the system warning since then, but it's frequently above 40 degrees just doing everyday tasks. Oddly, I haven't noticed it overheating when playing games.
I usually run Omega kernel, which has always run cooler than stock during both normal use and heavy gaming, but this issue has occurred with both stock and Omega, so it's not kernel-related. The only magisk modules I have installed are debloater (for YouTube only), font manager, and systemless hosts, so that's not it either.
Maybe some app going haywire (how to find it? Nothing in battery usage) or some system behavior that changed in 11.2.8.8? Anyone else have this issue or find what's causing it?

That's just how this phone is. It was worse when the phone released before all of the updates. They've been slowly trying to fix it with each update. The 888 is a hot *****.

TheKnux said:
That's just how this phone is. It was worse when the phone released before all of the updates. They've been slowly trying to fix it with each update. The 888 is a hot *****.
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I remember having that complaint when I first got it, especially when gaming, but it's been fine for me since like April, until this last update. And with Omega several degrees cooler. So there has to be something new causing it....

terlynn4 said:
I remember having that complaint when I first got it, especially when gaming, but it's been fine for me since like April, until this last update. And with Omega several degrees cooler. So there has to be something new causing it....
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What version of Omega are you on? What build of OOS? AA, BA, DA? Are there any unusual rogue apps that you've noticed running more than usual?

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What version of Omega are you on? What build of OOS? AA, BA, DA? Are there any unusual rogue apps that you've noticed running more than usual?
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Latest version of Omega (8/7) since yesterday, but was having the same issue on the previous build (7/30). I'm on OOS 11.2.8.8 BA.
I haven't noticed any apps using more battery than expected, but I guess that might be part of my question... If there are any, what's the best way to find them? I'm not seeing any useful info in BBS or anything in GSam I wouldn't expect, except overall battery drain is a bit higher when it's been running hot. I do have a lot of apps installed and should probably clean up what I don't use, so I guess that's a place to start.

Find which apks are using the battery.
Google system apks are prime suspects.
Trash apps like FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn... none of that junkware runs on my device, ever.
Examine all startup apks closely, take out the trash.
Power management can end up causing excessive battery usage, try turning it off.
Track down each battery hog and deal with it on a case by case basis rather than the flip a switch shotgun approach.
I use Karma Firewall's logging feature to help track down offenders.
Dependencies... sometimes the source of the high usage is hidden. What apks and services are running? What apks are using what services and why? What's apks are getting cached first when you clear them all? Any memory leaks?
Play with it... Androids wuv attention

blackhawk said:
Find which apks are using the battery.
Google system apks are prime suspects.
Trash apps like FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn... none of that junkware runs on my device, ever.
Examine all startup apks closely, take out the trash.
Power management can end up causing excessive battery usage, try turning it off.
Track down each battery hog and deal with it on a case by case basis rather than the flip a switch shotgun approach.
I use Karma Firewall's logging feature to help track down offenders.
Dependencies... sometimes the source of the high usage is hidden. What apks and services are running? What apks are using what services and why? What's apks are getting cached first when you clear them all? Any memory leaks?
Play with it... Androids wuv attention
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Good ideas. I just installed Karma Firewall and will see if it turns up anything.
How do you manage startup apps and running services? I used to use Servicely, but with Android 11 I find that even when I disable apps at startup they still start on their own, and it seems to use more battery than it saves. I've since disabled all apps of that kind and just let Android manage things itself. The only thing I do is go to individual apps and turn on battery optimization and disable background data if not needed, and I keep apps I don't use often in Icebox, including Facebook, which is the only social media type app I have. (Uninstalling FB isn't an option unfortunately.)
What do you mean by "which apps are getting cached first when you clear them all?" and how might I find it there are memory leaks?

terlynn4 said:
Good ideas. I just installed Karma Firewall and will see if it turns up anything.
How do you manage startup apps and running services? I used to use Servicely, but with Android 11 I find that even when I disable apps at startup they still start on their own, and it seems to use more battery than it saves. I've since disabled all apps of that kind and just let Android manage things itself. The only thing I do is go to individual apps and turn on battery optimization and disable background data if not needed, and I keep apps I don't use often in Icebox, including Facebook, which is the only social media type app I have. (Uninstalling FB isn't an option unfortunately.)
What do you mean by "which apps are getting cached first when you clear them all?" and how might I find it there are memory leaks?
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Karma's logging feature doesn't work in 10 and above I believe, I run Pie. See what you got though. It will still block apk internet access though and uses almost no battery.
The battery optimization option can cause erratic behavior and I never use it. Close apps when done with them. Brave browser for instance will run in the background until closed.
Developer options>running services memory leaks show up as an apk who's memory usage just keeps increasing with time. It can get quit large. These are rare and poorly coded programs. More common on Windows.
Keep an eye though for memory hungry apps as they may be using excessive power but not always. Small memory users can be worse. Dependencies, sometimes a apk or service keeps making repeated requests because of a disabled apk or service.
Killing Goggle play Services and Playstore when not needed will help battery life.
Google backup Transport, Framework and Firebase are always disabled on my device.
All carrier, manufacturer, and Google feedback are disabled.
I have a Samsung device and I use its Device Care app to clear the cached apks. Then watch as they repopulate. You'll need an app that does this. In running services you can disable a suspect apk and see how long it takes to come back. I find that Device Care is more effective though and that ability has let me track down some misbehaving system apks saving me a reload.
FB is weaponized and a proven liability. Known data miner. Purveyor of disinformation and dissent. It has ruined countless lives and careers. It deliberately makes you have load the app to be able to send messages. If this last year hasn't taught you what you need to know...
I used it for one month 15 years ago and knew what it was back then. It's far worse today.
Don't feed the beast.

blackhawk said:
Karma's logging feature doesn't work in 10 and above I believe, I run Pie. See what you got though. It will still block apk internet access though and uses almost no battery.
The battery optimization option can cause erratic behavior and I never use it. Close apps when done with them. Brave browser for instance will run in the background until closed.
Developer options>running services memory leaks show up as an apk who's memory usage just keeps increasing with time. It can get quit large. These are rare and poorly coded programs. More common on Windows.
Keep an eye though for memory hungry apps as they may be using excessive power but not always. Small memory users can be worse. Dependencies, sometimes a apk or service keeps making repeated requests because of a disabled apk or service.
Killing Goggle play Services and Playstore when not needed will help battery life.
Google backup Transport, Framework and Firebase are always disabled on my device.
All carrier, manufacturer, and Google feedback are disabled.
I have a Samsung device and I use its Device Care app to clear the cached apks. Then watch as they repopulate. You'll need an app that does this. In running services you can disable a suspect apk and see how long it takes to come back. I find that Device Care is more effective though and that ability has let me track down some misbehaving system apks saving me a reload.
FB is weaponized and a proven liability. Known data miner. Purveyor of disinformation and dissent. It has ruined countless lives and careers. It deliberately makes you have load the app to be able to send messages. If this last year hasn't taught you what you need to know...
I used it for one month 15 years ago and knew what it was back then. It's far worse today.
Don't feed the beast.
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Thanks for the info, it's interesting. However, if you're running Pie & not even using a OnePlus device, none of this is going to be applicable to my issue which is specific to OOS 11.2.8.8 on this particular device, only present since last month's update.
Re: FB - I'm required to use it for my job (well, second job), and I need it on my mobile device in order to do that job, so it's not going away. Freezing it when not in use is the best I can do.

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Thanks for the info, it's interesting. However, if you're running Pie & not even using a OnePlus device, none of this is going to be applicable to my issue which is specific to OOS 11.2.8.8 on this particular device, only present since last month's update.
Re: FB - I'm required to use it for my job (well, second job), and I need it on my mobile device in order to do that job, so it's not going away. Freezing it when not in use is the best I can do.
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You cross platform OS version and manufacturer to find solutions. I have a lot of posts here but few asking for help because I do the above or just keeps at it until I work it out as it's my issue.
*shakes head*
You've painted yourself into a corner.

@terlynn4 I use BatteryGuru because it uses root to find rogue apps that are draining battery unnecessarily. Give it a go and see if that helps pinpoint the problem at all.