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http://www.talkandroid.com/8164-galaxy-s-to-have-micr-usb-to-hdmi-output/
anyone hear more about this??
and just found this saying the american Galaxy S versions will support it
http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-does-microusb-to-hdmi
that would include captivate model
more reading.. (below) samsung states its possible after an update. other reading says it may sacrifice ability to use docking station.
samsung has abandond update idea and pulled cables from release.
CAN WE PULL IT OFF??
Trusselo said:
http://www.talkandroid.com/8164-galaxy-s-to-have-micr-usb-to-hdmi-output/
anyone hear more about this??
and just found this saying the american Galaxy S versions will support it
http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-does-microusb-to-hdmi
that would include captivate model
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This is old news. I don't think anyone was ever able to get it to work. There was also issues with the cable itself.
yeah found that after too. another abandoned promise from samsung.
was going to be available after software update. cable was even posted on their site coming soon. now removed. now samsung doubts they will do 2.3, HIGHLY doubt they would ever update the HDMI capabilities.
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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The specs for Infuse does not have HDMI out. Samsung has gone the route of DLNA like our current Captivate using AllShare.
Dani897 said:
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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Samsung has never been afraid of devaluing their devices. I worked for at&t until March of 2010, and I can say honestly that I have seen some crazy samsung stunts.
Example of Gimping one model to not devalue another:
BlackBerry Bold 9000 - 3G, WIFI.
BlackBerry Curve 8900 - EDGE, WIFI.
Why is the 8900 3G on every carrier that supports it EXCEPT at&t? Because they didn't want to devalue the Bold 9000. On other carriers, the 8900 was the top-end 3G BlackBerry, but not on at&t.
Example of Samsung not giving a damn:
Samsung Eternity. Great feature phone, pretty decent touch screen, overall good device. I owned two, personally. My youngest sister and her then-boyfriend both owned one each.
Samsung Propel. Another great feature phone, with a slide-out QWERTY. Bought them for my mother, my other sister, my brother-in-law. None of them had complaints.
Shortly after:
Samsung Solstice, Samsung Mythic... both replaced the Eternity.
Samsung Flight, a Propel with a touch-screen. (Replaced my mother's Propel with the Flight though... trying to get her into touch-screen first, then transition her to android!)
Samsung didn't care how heavily stocked we were on the Propel, the Eternity and the Impression. They dropped those new phones like it was no big deal.
So, I wouldn't count on dual-core. Samsung likes to generate as much buzz early on as possible to get people talking about their new phones... hardware is -always- secondary to them. The thing they hold back until just before release is the UI. The Mythic is a great example... almost the exact same specs as the Eternity, but the UI is what they held back to just before release and what was it? Some god-awful slow iPhone knock-off UI.
They LOVE the horizontal scrolling in the 'app drawer'. They did it with the Mythic, then with TouchWiz. Bleh.
The title says it all. I am wondering if anybody heard if the Captivate (galaxy) glide will be receiving the 4.0 ICS update? I know its more than capable of running it!
http://www.techeh.ca/2011/11/what-phones-will-get-android-4-0-ics/
Sorry no info as of yet on this site for us. Just thought you might like to see which phones are getting it according to this site.
JB
Its listed there as galaxy s glide. Rogers. Same thing diffrent carrier from canada, this phone will definatly get it, why else have a powerful chip in the phone
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the Galaxy S devices are not going to get official ICS.
Our glide, if the boot logo serves me correct, is a Galaxy S (not SGS2).
But Galaxy S devices are capable of running ICS smoothly, so we just need devs that can get their hands on the captivate glide and port.
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the Galaxy S devices are not going to get official ICS.
Our glide, if the boot logo serves me correct, is a Galaxy S (not SGS2).
But Galaxy S devices are capable of running ICS smoothly, so we just need devs that can get their hands on the captivate glide and port.
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Even though our device is branded as 'S', I don't think it it is part of the S lineup so there is still hope.
The Glide is Galaxy S in name only, specs are completely different.
That site lists the OS as 2.2. The Captivate Glide (at least in the US) has 2.3.
Does the Rogers version only have 2.2?
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The Glide is Galaxy S in name only, specs are completely different.
That site lists the OS as 2.2. The Captivate Glide (at least in the US) has 2.3.
Does the Rogers version only have 2.2?
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Nope always had 2.3 and I bought it on launch.
Isn't the glide based off of the S2 since we have a dual processor. Fine smaller screen and not Super Amoled Plus.
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The Captivate Glide is technically a Galaxy S model. Even though it has a much more powerful chip I don't see it getting official ice cream sandwich. It hasn't done well in retail and that speaks for itself. There's probably a 95% chance that it will not get an update by Samsung to official ICS. They will be much more focused on their Galaxy SII line, galaxy nexus, and their upcoming Galaxy SIII model (rumored to be announced next month at Mobile World Congress). Unfortunately the Glide is just a little fish lost in the sea of Samsung devices.
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The Captivate Glide is technically a Galaxy S model. Even though it has a much more powerful chip I don't see it getting official ice cream sandwich. It hasn't done well in retail and that speaks for itself. There's probably a 95% chance that it will not get an update by Samsung to official ICS. They will be much more focused on their Galaxy SII line, galaxy nexus, and their upcoming Galaxy SIII model (rumored to be announced next month at Mobile World Congress). Unfortunately the Glide is just a little fish lost in the sea of Samsung devices.
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According to Wikipedia it's technically part of the S II line. Despite being named for the Captivate, a member of the original Galaxy S line, the Glide is part of the Galaxy S II series of phones. It is also listed as a variant of the S II. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_S_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Captivate_Glide
Also not releasing an update to a phone that is high end and just a few months out is super scummy even for Samsung.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
Samsung will release it. AT&T on the other hand is notorious for delaying updates...even never releasing them ie; X10.
We need our devs. To beat samsung to the prize rom aha I think no matter what specs are in this device the master minds here can make pretty much anything happen
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Is anybody else pissed because this phone is awesome and under-rated? I switched my atrix 4G for this and will never turn back. Much nicer screen, the samsung theme is nicer (removed motoblur ASAP) , everything seems to run more fluidly, and it has a keyboard to boot!
This phone needs more attention for sure!
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Is anybody else pissed because this phone is awesome and under-rated? I switched my atrix 4G for this and will never turn back. Much nicer screen, the samsung theme is nicer (removed motoblur ASAP) , everything seems to run more fluidly, and it has a keyboard to boot!
This phone needs more attention for sure!
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Totally, heh.
I could never use a phone without a qwerty keyboard. Losing half the screen any time you want to enter data is so awful.
But, apparently we are alone in this assessment.
lambgx02 said:
Totally, heh.
I could never use a phone without a qwerty keyboard. Losing half the screen any time you want to enter data is so awful.
But, apparently we are alone in this assessment.
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Not entirely alone - on the CDMA side of the house, HTC has at least 2 or 3 QWERTY options... But ya for a GSM phone, the Glide is the only smartphone with a dual-core processor, more than a half gig of RAM, a MicroSD slot, and QWERTY
I've tried using swype to text message and it... has not turned out well :-\
lambgx02 said:
Totally, heh.
I could never use a phone without a qwerty keyboard. Losing half the screen any time you want to enter data is so awful.
But, apparently we are alone in this assessment.
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Yeah, I let my fears about the Glide not getting ICS chase me over to the Skyrocket, and while it's a great phone and typing on it isn't exactly awful, I really do miss having a big landscape keyboard. I make a lot more errors, and I wouldn't want to type anything really long on it, where with my old phone I could bang out a whole article if I wanted to without slowing down.
Everyone will tell you it doesn't matter and you'll get used to it (and to some extent you do), but they're wrong. If you do a lot of typing, there's no substitute for a nice keyboard.
But my last phone was the Backflip, and I'm not going through having an unsupported phone for 2 years again, so I let myself get scared off. Overcompensating, perhaps.
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Not entirely alone - on the CDMA side of the house, HTC has at least 2 or 3 QWERTY options... But ya for a GSM phone, the Glide is the only smartphone with a dual-core processor, more than a half gig of RAM, a MicroSD slot, and QWERTY
I've tried using swype to text message and it... has not turned out well :-\
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Like most Glide owners, a QWERTY keyboard is a must for me. I will say though, once you suffer through the "getting used to" and "it getting used to you" stages with Swype, it is amazing for touch screen typing. But like Frogacuda mentioned, the QWERTY is a must for typing anything long and that's why I have the Glide and not a SGS2.
I think we can say that just about everyone that bought a glide did so for the Dual core and Qwerty keyboard. It is the best Qwerty keyboard android phone has to date. Sure I looked at the S2 but I just wanted a Qwerty since my last phone has issues with its touch screen (not capacitive). For quick things I use swipe for anything over 3 words I use the Qwerty.
I earlier used EPIC and now getting Glide... I need to send few SMS a day with details of LR number and truck numbers... For that purpose, pure touch only KB (even swype) is NOT-enough...
I also have hope Sammy will bring ICS to atleast its dual-core phones... Imho, there will be no room for any excuse if they didn't (ofcourse, unless AT&T is not ready for updating)
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I also have hope Sammy will bring ICS to atleast its dual-core phones... Imho, there will be no room for any excuse if they didn't (ofcourse, unless AT&T is not ready for updating)
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I agree until you say something about AT&T - they're notorious for being slow to update, but that should have no bearing on whether Samsung releases a build for a phone that was only publicly released 3 months ago. Also of note is the fact that Rogers (of Canada) also has this phone in their product line (SGH-i927R) - and is _not-evil_ enough to leave out Carrier IQ in their stock image
Hello everyone!
I'm looking for a new phone since my Epic 4G is finally biting the dust. Of course I'd like to stick with a QWERTY keyboard phone so the Captivate Glide may be my next choice! I did have a few questions though:
Ideally I am looking for an unlocked Captivate Glide to use on a monthly AT&T or T-Mobile plan. I hate contracts and I'm looking to travel internationally in the next few years so having a GSM phone will help in that aspect. Is anyone on either of those networks?
How do you all find the battery life typically? On stock or custom?
This phone is looking to be a good replacement for my Epic and I'm interested to hear your feedback
My absolute honest opinion... for the money I paid this phone delivers, its got a dual core processor good screen lots of memory .. the keyboard, however, leaves much to be desired... now my opinion is based on having come from a blackberry bold, the keyboard was awesome. Because of the touch and the keys being so close together I was able to roll my fingers across the keyboard to complete words and rock it back and forth to complete other words.. IE: I'd roll my thumb from e to r to e again to complete spelling there etc.
With the captivate glide keyboard, not only does it take a bit to depress the keys but they are so far apart and I've found I've had a difficult time moving from key to key because of it. As well, once you have a hard case on, its difficult to get to the keys on the top row.
I find myself using the on screen keyboard and only flipping to the physical when I get frustrated with typos (as I was used to on my Galaxy Ace which has only a 3.5" screen .. it was murder trying to type).
Part of me wonders if I should have gotten a Galaxy SII for the interim... I really wanted to get an SIII but there were no free phone offers so I settled on the Glide.
Other negative part is it has a very small user base so the forums here are fairly quiet and only a couple of people are developing for this device. This means things like CyanogenMOD (CM10) and Jellybean, proper ICS builds are a lot slower to come by ... and it is possible that we may not ever see JB on our phones ... Dman appears to be the only person coding JB for our phones, TheGreaterGood has solidified a great ICS rom now (literom 0.8.4) so we have an ICS build improved upon by the most recently released ATT build.
Battery life is good, I get a full day and some out of it, come night time after about 14 hours I'm often at critical but understand I have 2 email accounts in push mode all day, wifi on all day cruising and connecting to various hot spots throughout my clients across the city and I'm in varied coverage areas. (A couple of my clients are in rural area's). This is with my GPS turned off.
My phone was purchased for Rogers network - I dumped them as a provider and switched to Virgin Mobile. I paid the $15 and unlocked my phone using the download util from FastGSM. My phone has NEVER come unlocked and I've flashed numerous roms in GingerBread ICS and JellyBean. There are threads explaining how to unlock for free but personally the 2 minute and guarantee that it would unlock my phone (I unlocked my galaxy ace as well) was worth my time savings
My advice - Find one, play with it. Type up a whole couple-3 paragraphs using the on screen keyboard and the slide out keyboard. I read that I should do that somewhere and I didnt.
I miss the feel of my Ace in one hand with a rubber sleeve on it. I could spin it around and feel it comfortable in my hand, wrap my fingers around it. This one, because of the slider, It feels like it may falll out of my hand easier and there doesn't seem to be an ability to fluently type with one hand (such a drag when driving )
Don't get me wrong, I'm still happy with my purchase but I would have spent far less hours playing with a Galaxy SII tweaking it and trying to get it customized because there is so much more support for it. Not to mention having Google NOW.
I also came from the Epic. It is a little bit different of a phone, but it is much faster, in my experience. It has a dual-core Tegra 2 and an 8 MP camera -- two nice selling points. It also can support a 64 microSDXC card -- I have one in mine and it's awesome.
However, a few drawbacks too -- the top row from the Epic on the keyboard (the numbers) are missing -- we only have a 4 row keyboard. You have to use the alt key to get numbers. Not a super big deal, but takes some getting used to. Also, there is no notification light to my knowledge, either. So don't expect a flashing light to tell you if you have a new email, etc. The final "frustration" is that it is hard to find decent cases for this. Dev's aren't entirely consistent on this device, like they are with the Epic -- We haven't had any "stable" releases of ICS/JB, aside from mods on the stock -- CM support isn't quite there yet. CWM doesn't support external SD's. I guess we were a bit spoiled in the Epic forums. I may be taking a stab at getting external SD support with CWM... and maybe then working on CM support... but we'll see -- have a lot on my plate and I'm not a Java developer by trade (but I am a programmer with over 20 years experience in other languages relevant).
It's a little slimmer and feels a bit sturdier/compact than the Epic, but more or less the exact same size (but different rounding on the corners).
You can pick one up BRAND NEW from NewEgg -- and then unlock it. I got mine for $200 with free shipping, etc, from NewEgg on a sale. Just watch out for it and make sure you're paying attention to the "sales" and coupons, so you know the true price of it -- mine was listed at $225 with a $25 instant rebate (shown right next to the title of it). It was supposedly unlocked (but it's not) -- so I had to buy an unlock code -- and it worked flawlessly. If you look in this forum, you should see a review I posted about it.
I think the phone has a lot of promise, but we need a bit better support. Some things that are important seem overlooked. That being said, it seems like the remaining tasks are pretty simple. Unlike the Epic, which received support for data as one of the last things on the phone -- the Glide got it as one of the first things -- but the physical keyboard isn't working perfectly. Weird nuances like that.
Again, we are lucky to have developers who spend their free time on this -- and anything they've already done can be appreciated. I just wish we had a few others in here who would take up some more of the work and try to fix it, when one of our dev's is working on a side-project, like we did with the Epic.
All-in-all, feels like a good phone to upgrade to. Pretty happy with it. I got an empire case off of Amazon for about $5 and it fits better than the Seidio I have on my Epic. Just ROM support seems a little weak at the moment compared to the Epic.
Wow, thank you both for such detailed responses. One of the things I look for as well is the community that supports the phone which you've both demonstrated is pretty damn good regardless of custom ROM support. Thanks!
The price is the main constriction on whatever phone I plan on purchasing. Next is GSM, then the speed, keyboard, SD card slot, etc. Starting with the price, the new phones are so goddamn expensive! I don't think I could justify spending $600 phone and I really don't want to be on a contract; I'm hoping to do a month to month on either T-Mobile or AT&T. The newer phones are all dropping some of the best features (IMO): keyboard and SD slots. The reason I'm considering this phone is because it's basically the Epic just beefed up!
There are a couple other phones I was comparing this to: Droid 3 and the Mytouch 4G Slide. To be honest, the Captivate Glide has CM9 and CM10 in beta which would be enough custom rom swapping for me. I really want a solid daily driver that isn't going to crash or give me many problems. Any thoughts?
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There are a couple other phones I was comparing this to: Droid 3 and the Mytouch 4G Slide.
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I was using a Droid 3 when Rogers offered me this phone for free to re-up on my plan. The heft and feel of the D3 was awesome. Lots of metal, it felt super solid. The keyboard was also great. I'm a big fan of the Droid line (my favourite phone still is the original Droid [I wish I could get another one with a bigger screen and updated insides]) because I love the look and the build quality was great. Also, the HDMI out was sometimes handy.
That being said, the screen on the Glide blows the D3 out of the water. I forget the specifics of the Droid 3 screen, but immediately after I got it home, I noticed that it had a distractingly pixelly screen. The glide also has a full gig of ram as opposed to 512mb and that was a nice upgrade. The battery on the Glide is ever so slightly bigger (1500mah on the D3, 1650mah on the Glide).
While the keyboard on the glide is not as good as the one on the D3, I have no problems touch typing while walking and glancing at my screen periodically. Having all 4 android buttons on the keyboard is also a nice touch. The Glide has a springy mechanism like old qwerty feature phones to pop out the keyboard, whereas the D3, you have to manually push it the whole way. I wouldn't say either is better... just different feel.
As much as the glide rom scene isn't as robust as some phones (don't get me wrong, the guys we have are absolutely awesome), the stagnant development scene for the Droid 3 is what made me switch. Two words: Locked Bootloader. ICS was kind of running on it when I left in July, minus a whole bunch of things (notably the camera). And I skimmed through that forum the other day when I was feeling like busting out the D3 for a couple of days for nostalgia; it doesn't look like a whole lot has changed. Flashing roms on the glide is the pinnacle of convenience. Flashing and running roms on the D3 involved crazy workarounds that slowed the boot time and restricted us to using a GB kernel with heavily modified ICS. Although, I hear there's been some luck in getting unsigned kernels to work, there's still a LOT of driver work that has to be done from scratch to get ICS fully working with the D3's just-good-enough internals.
That's about all I can say about these two phones. I'm no dev and by no means did I look incredibly far into the D3 situation so I could be way off base, but that's how it looked to me.
Well, here's the deal with that, then:
Yes, this phone is way better than the Droid 3/4, in my opinion. I like the keyboard on the Droid better, but this phone has WAY better support and chances for it.
If you want to go month-to-month, consider using StraightTalk -- I have StraightTalk using AT&T's network (since that is what is officially supported here -- since 1900 isn't being supported by T-Mobile yet). $45/month unlimited everything -- and here we don't have hidden data caps, it doesn't seem, so the negatives of the network aren't really there for StraightTalk.
I'm working with the guy who originally ported CWM for our phone (not Aquethys -- utkanos) to make a CWM that ACTUALLY works 100% (currently ours doesn't support external_sd, even though it lists it -- it always fails to see it). Once I have that done, I'll probably be playing around with building CM10 and trying to fix some of the bugs that Team Glide has yet to do. I have no experience with Android development -- but I do have a lot of experience with programming in general -- so hopefully I will be able to get something working. Only thing is that CM10 is a big, nasty compile -- and I'm just using a VM right now, which isn't as powerful as true dedicated hardware. I'll probably have to get a monster server to start real development, but my funds are low. So, depending on how painful and annoying VM development is, I may stop working on anything after the CWM. We'll see what happens!
My very non-dev take on this phone, after having it a year now: My previous phone was a Droid1, which was a pretty good device (very durable) but I definitely grew tired of its sluggish performance, even while running CM7 on it. I was never a fan of the Droid1 keyboard, and I think the Glide is a huge improvement between the 2. No question the keys are a bit flat and widely spaced, but I think they work well once you're used to them. The lack of a dedicated number row is annoying, but manageable.
My biggest annoyance after the Droid1 is the lack of a LED notification light on the Glide. But that just is what it is. Other small gripes are the lack of a good case option (as far as I've seen), since the all-plastic construction of the Glide is rather slippery in your hand. The back cover looks nice and stays on tight during normal operation, but a minor drop seems to make it fly off, causing the battery to fly out, and you're standing there gathering the pieces of your phone and re-assembling it like a buffoon. At least I've been there a few times.
The development support for this phone in the last few months has been great. I was really bummed for quite some time after getting it to see very little support. LiteROM has been a really solid variation of the stock Samsung/AT&T ROM, with version 0.8.4 seeming to be essentially flawless in the last few days I've had it running. I know CM10 is a huge project, but with LiteROM running so well, I really have no need for anything else.
I will likely hang onto this phone after my AT&T contract is up in a year, and also go to StraightTalk. Maybe T-mobile will get their frequencies straight and I'll have the option to give them a whirl next year. AT&T service works pretty well in my area, so at least I know I will continue to get that coverage.
The only other thing that bothers me about this phone is the low ppi of the screen. It looks rather pixelated at times until you zoom into things. Do yourself a favor and definitely don't even glance at a new iPhone screen before checking out the Glide. I think that's the only feature that will eventually convince me to replace the Glide, if someone (Samsung or Moto) comes out with a high-quality GSM slider with a high ppi screen. But it seems phones with physical keyboards get less and less attention, and the Glide might be one of the last good GSM offerings for a while.
I loved my HTC Desire Z. It was my 2nd android phone after the HTC Dream and it just felt great to hold and use. Assuming of course that the HTC sense rom was ditched and CM was installed. I loved it.
Two years down the road the hardware keyboard starts to respond poorly to presses. I have to push firmly down some of the keys for them to work. I decide to go ahead and open it up for cleaning in the hopes that it will work better. As a result of my cleaning the keyboard now works even WORSE than before and is practically unusable at the top left corner.
HTC does not have service centers for my phone in Japan where I live so if I want to get it fixed I have to send it to Taiwan with UPS (already done it once for other problem) and the whole process is ridiculously expensive since the phone is no longer in warranty.
I find it kinda depressing that our gear just works for 2 years and has to be thrown away. On the other hand I partially accept responsibility for choosing to buy a handset that is not available in the country where I live.
I don't care that the phone runs an old version of android because I really like the hardware keyboard. So if I'm going to throw this phone away, what should I buy to replace it? i.e. What is the best hardware keyboard android phone out there right now? Please note I'm mainly interested in a great keyboard, not the phone specs.
there are tons of threads on this subject throught xda, i suggest digging a bit to see what others think
but hey, i feel for ya, i am a qwerty fanatic myself! i have a dream, a doubleshot, a sidekick 4g, and the vision, all have pretty good keyboards. the best of these four (to me) are the dream and the sk4g
now the doubleshot beats them all in specs but has the worst keyboard (still nice enough though) but if you are interested in new and a good keyboard try out the samsung relay 4g, test one out and the keyboard is pretty good and will beat any of my other four in performance.
I did a gsmarena search of all android physical keyboard phones* with at least as good spec as the Vision. I don't know how useful this'll be to you, in the UK I think the HTC Desire Z was the last keyboard phone sold. Most of the phones in that link are just "normal" phones with hw keyboards but are rebranded with sometimes completely different names, so if I were you I'd also try to match them up with their non-keyboard equivalents and read reviews about them also.
A big thing for me would also be the dev. Community, and also the support of the manufacturer itself; for that reason I'd go with a Samsung or Sony.
*what is the proper name for a phone with a physical keyboard? All the ones I think of are such a mouthful, if there isn't one we need a short, silly, memorable name for hw keyboard phones preferably just for the Vision forums... It would be kinda like an in joke :silly:
Samsung Galaxy Relay
My wife needed a qwerty after coming to Android from Blackberry, so we bought the Samsung Galaxy Relay. It's a great phone, a definite upward move from the G2/DesireZ, but I'm not sure of its availability outside the US.
What have you used to clean it? It sounds like if you either haven't cleaned it through;y enough, or damaged it. Hopefully the first.
Since no-one seems to be able to manufacture a qwerty android phone anymore (due to lack of demand from us? I don't think so) I'm a little surprised that the aftermarket niche hasn't picked up on this and created a small keyboard that is attachable to the backside of any phone.
This would open up huge alternatives regarding screen-size, upgradeability and also more choices when buying operator-locked phones. All phones would be qwerty-capable.
Hello, I am not a developer and I am just looking for an answer to my question.
I know that there was released a google-edition of the S4 some time ago, which has the same HMDI-out (MHL2.0) as the Note 2 has. From what I have read about the google play-edition of the S4 you are still able to mirror your screen to the TV with the HDMI-out, which you are unable to do on the Note II if you use AOSP-roms. Since the Google Play Edition-phones are supposed to be open source just like google, I thought maybe the MHL2.0 driver was possible to port to other AOSP-roms on phones that uses the same MHL2.0-port as the S4... Which is the same Note II use!
This got me thinking and leads to my question:
(tl;dr)
Is there a way to use or port the HDMI-out driver from the S4 Google Play-edition and onto the Galaxy Note II's AOSP-Roms?
Please correct me if I've understood something wrong. I would be happy to get a proper answer.
(Currently using Paranoid Android-rom on Note II, and the only big flaw about this and every other AOSP-rom for the Note II is the lack of HDMI-out and Miracast.)
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Obviously Samsung gave Google the drivers. The *only* way we will ever see HDMI/MHL working on a non Samsung rom is one of three ways:
1) Someone with a sword of +10 to Autism Intensifies is able to reverse engineer every single protocol related to the signal coming out of the micro-USB port, and I am talking about someone with the ability to touch their tongue to the actual bared wires of a working MHL cable and from the taste tell you whether the movie being played is using AAC or 5.1 sound kinda thing. If there are a precious handful of clues in HOW various apps access and control this system, it is *possible* that a driver could be cobbled together to emulate the real thing. Will this happen? Probably not, there simply isn't enough interest.
2) A grass roots campaign is organized to beg, plead, threaten, abduct children of Samsung CEO's, do whatever it takes to get them to release the code for the drivers. This is unlikely but Samsung has begrudgingly helped with things like this before. Of course, we are also talking about a company that cheerfully has started putting e-fuses into their bootloader tripwires, so... Don't count on it.
3) A specialized unit of combined Ninjas and Belarus mercs storms the Samsung heaquarters and steals the source code for the drivers. There could be hostage situations, some mild torture to extract the pass-key to the RSA 32768 bit encrypted data center, military intervention and possibly airstrikes from American interests, North Korean EMP attacks when they get caught up in it... Still - doable.
Your other option is to simply keep a nicely fleshed out Touchwiz based rom nandroided away and just reload that for when you want to use your HDMI out the odd time.
I like #3 lol
But yeah... best to use a sammy based rom if you want that feature (can look here for them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Apatc-TEE7sNdHVUbXBkOHI2X1FhTlBRb1BmTUdBQmc&output=html)
Done with it.
HTC is also guilty of this. My Sensation also has MHL out, but it won't work on AOSP (which frankly infuriates me). http://piloty.eu/samsung.html
Reflashing Touchwiz-based rom every time.. this would be a nightmare. I... I can't. No. Whole pile of nope.
Things like that make me sick of Samsung. I had pleasure of playing with Note 3 for few days, and now I'm done. My next device will be any open phone.