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Does anyone know if the USB to HDMI cable has been released? Or is this just another so called promise from Samsung?
I've never seen any official specs that said it supports it, so technically it wasn't promised. It was rumored about alot and tons of news articles about it from that rumor, but afaik the only thing that said the vibrant would support HDMI out was a tweet putting us on the compatibility list. Samsung later confirmed that they mistakingly included the Vibrant on that list.
I'd love to have HDMI out too, so I can always hope that's wrong, but at the same time, have you ever tried TV out? Most of the things you'd want to use it for don't support it. Most the games I play when I have 'TV-out' on display on the TV "This application does not support TV-Out". Same thing when you try to watch Avatar or other movies. If that's how it will be with the HDMI out, it's not even worth the hassle.
There are also a bunch of articles coming out saying that the Galaxy S II is the first to use the dual port - usb / hdmi, so if that's the 'first' it sounds like we're SOL .
http://drippler.com/samsung-galaxy-...-port-for-dual-purpose-usb-or-hdmi-out-video/
yes! I can finally use the hdmi-micro usb cable that I bought from samsung in august.
just have to wait for the sgsII to be released with tmo bands
Thanks all... I have tried the TV out and I am just looking for a better picture than it provides. I really doubt that I will be picking up another samsung phone, especially one from T-Mobile. After getting over the release of 2.2, I'm now bitter about the release of the Vibrant 4G. I feel like I was a guinea pig for both companies.
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I really doubt that I will be picking up another samsung phone, especially one from T-Mobile. After getting over the release of 2.2, I'm now bitter about the release of the Vibrant 4G. I feel like I was a guinea pig for both companies.
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Good luck with your new phone / provider. You'll likely be treated to more of the same if not worse. In the Galaxy S saga, Verizon customers got the short end of the stick. T-Mobile customers may have had it the best . AT&T users probably 2nd after than followed by Sprint for 3rd. This outlook comes from working with people who have all these phones and talking to them daily. I'm thankful that I'm with T-Mobile but not thrilled having gone with Samsung.
Anyone who decides to become an early adopter for a new product series / line is in effect "a guinea pig" but this is nothing new. If you're bitter because you desire the features the 4G adds then that's silly since there's always something new coming out. Not much you can do about it.
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Good luck with your new phone / provider. You'll likely be treated to more of the same if not worse. In the Galaxy S saga, Verizon customers got the short end of the stick. T-Mobile customers may have had it the best . AT&T users probably 2nd after than followed by Sprint for 3rd. This outlook comes from working with people who have all these phones and talking to them daily. I'm thankful that I'm with T-Mobile but not thrilled having gone with Samsung.
Anyone who decides to become an early adopter for a new product series / line is in effect "a guinea pig" but this is nothing new. If you're bitter because you desire the features the 4G adds then that's silly since there's always something new coming out. Not much you can do about it.
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I do agree that T-Mobile is my best option. Hell, they've replaced my Vibrant 3 times already. I doubt that the other carriers would be so gracious. I said that I will not be picking up another samsung phone, not switching carriers for a new version of the phone.
As for being a guinea pig for the manufacturers, I understand this. However, there are things that are unacceptable for us guinea pigs, such as the empty promises and hardware that doesn't even work correctly, i.e. GPS. And I am not bitter because of 4G or even the ffc. I'm bitter because the Vibrant 4g is exactly the same as the 3G except for these features. It's almost as if they took all of the issues and complaints form the 3G owners and used the leftover 3G pieces and implemented the correct hardware 6 months later.
I'm not bitter, I'm just not a customer of Samsung's any longer. The samoled screen doesn't mean that much to me.
Thank god for Team Whiskey and the other development teams. And thank god for Android!
I totally understand that guinea pig feeling. I had a Moto Cliq before I got the Vibrant. Next Moto phone after that was the original Droid. That took off and the Cliq was practically forgotten.
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...such as the empty promises and hardware that doesn't even work correctly, i.e. GPS. And I am not bitter because of 4G or even the ffc...
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have you tried getting "GPS Aids" from the market? works like a charm. I no longer have a GPS issue.
does the tvout actually work and if so where can i buy a cable.
So... does the deafening echo in here mean that HDMI out was never achieved?
Has the Photon 4g persuaded your decision when it comes down to what your upgrading to??? Or are you still intent on the Evo 3D or the Galaxy S II???
I'm still waiting to see if Sprint is going to sell the Galaxy S II. The Photon has my interest pending if the bootloader will be locked or not. The Samsung Within is on the top of my wish list, however...
The bootloader has been confirmed not to be locked by Motorola......
Yes, I just read that and confirmed Gorilla Glass, too. It has moved into second place pending a Galaxy S II announcement.
They stated later that the Photon would have a locked bootloader. Here is a link to it:
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/10/des...motorola-photon-4g-bootloader-will-be-locked/
The GSII for sprint is going to be called the Within. We know it's coming, we just aren't sure when :\. I personally would go for the Evo 3D because it is unlocked and will have great dev support. The Within will most likely also have great dev support because it is a great phone and because Samsung recently sent a few GSII to the guys that make cyanogenmod. Both phones have great specs and I am excited that they are going to be on Sprint.
I want to like the photon, but due to the fact that it is locked and because it is running the Motorola UI (apparently not called motoblur anymore) I won't even be looking at it. The specs are fantastic, but those two factors just make me cringe at the thought of buying it.
I had a Motorola phone back in the day even before smart phones were around, and it hit the brick hard on me, so I really don't want a phone from them. I personally will most likely go for the Galaxy S II, because I personally love my Samsung LED TV, I had a non Samsung smart phone, and it did me right [the AT&T Eternity] and still works, also is has phenomenal specs. I personally could care less about the '3D' aspect to the Evo 3D.
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I had a Motorola phone back in the day even before smart phones were around, and it hit the brick hard on me, so I really don't want a phone from them. I personally will most likely go for the Galaxy S II, because I personally love my Samsung LED TV, I had a non Samsung smart phone, and it did me right [the AT&T Eternity] and still works, also is has phenomenal specs. I personally could care less about the '3D' aspect to the Evo 3D.
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I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that most of the people here are not buying the phone because it is 3D. That's just something extra that we didn't ask for. People are buying it because it's a phone from a great company with great specs on a great carrier. Not saying that Samsung isn't great, we have a 40" from them that looks fantastic, but some people just prefer HTC.
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I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that most of the people here are not buying the phone because it is 3D. That's just something extra that we didn't ask for. People are buying it because it's a phone from a great company with great specs on a great carrier. Not saying that Samsung isn't great, we have a 40" from them that looks fantastic, but some people just prefer HTC.
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That's possibly true, and the extra power to run the 3D would probably eat up some of the battery. I have a 32" Samsung LED tv...beautiful in my room at school. And I agree there probably is some bias out there, but I resolved a long time ago, to not get stubborn and be a die fanboy to one side just cuz I like them. I love boy Samsung and HTC, but I feel the GS II has the edge in this competition. Just my 4 cents.
The Atrix was just released here in Australia with one of our local carriers on Tuesday 06/07/2011. So not happy that a few days later, the Photon have been announced. Larger screen, 8mp camera etc etc.
This 2 yr plan is really going to drag along so slowly now.
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That's possibly true, and the extra power to run the 3D would probably eat up some of the battery. I have a 32" Samsung LED tv...beautiful in my room at school. And I agree there probably is some bias out there, but I resolved a long time ago, to not get stubborn and be a die fanboy to one side just cuz I like them. I love boy Samsung and HTC, but I feel the GS II has the edge in this competition. Just my 4 cents.
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That's very well spoken. I enjoy your 2 cents (because 4 just seems like a bit too much)
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That's very well spoken. I enjoy your 2 cents (because 4 just seems like a bit too much)
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Its a clearance sale on my opinion today, so keep the change for yourself.
But thank you.
As of right now, the Photon has my interest. Being able to use it globally is a plus for me. But with that said, if it becomes impossible to root then I may not consider it much. I'm not liking the EVO3D for the sole fact that its a 3D phone. Yes, I know its optional but I'm not keen on it. The GSII would be a win if it does come with a keyboard. To early to say what I would get though.
Well I've already got my EVO 3D locked in for release date. I'm not really a fan of the Photon, as I won't need it globally. I love my EVO, and if the 3D is the same build quality (or better), I will be loving my new phone.
I'm not a fan of hardware keyboards, as I feel like they just add extra bulk, so for me at least, the EVO 3D offers exactly what I want.
Of course, everyone will have their own preferences, and hopefully everyone will do their homework and decide what works best for them (and don't bash any of the other ones just because you like one over the other lol)
Also, the 3D has better power management than (some) other processors (like the Tegra 2). The cores can be clocked individually based on the need of the device or app, so it save power when it isn't needed. I wonder how long it will take to get a SetCPU like app that can control each core individually.
The MSM8x60 incorporates an asynchronous dual-core SMP micro-architecture. Unlike synchronous dual-core SMP designs
where both cores must run at the same frequency and voltage when operational, the dual-core Scorpion asynchronous power
design provides independent clocking and voltage per core, allowing each to work independently. This highly efficient design
provides substantial power savings over traditional SMP technology by intelligently adjusting performance to suit the needs of
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sorry not to be a **** but who in the hell would want a locked and encrypted bootloader phone from a company that gives a rats @$$ about its customers???...
ona side note is anyone here just going to hold onto their evo and wait for quad cores???
sorry i really like my evo, but if the photon was unlocked and unencrypted id go for it.... right now sgs2 and evo 3d too much alike... htc seems to have beter build quality.... the samsung 4g ... cant remember what it was called for sprint felt reallllllyyyyy cheap... but the screen was awesome
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sorry i really like my evo, but if the photon was unlocked and unencrypted id go for it.... right now sgs2 and evo 3d too much alike... htc seems to have beter build quality.... the samsung 4g ... cant remember what it was called for sprint felt reallllllyyyyy cheap... but the screen was awesome
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"Epic" was the name... Kind of funny that it was an "epic" fail. That phone felt like a cheap, plastic, hunk of junk.
I used my upgrade on an echo.
Why does everyone think HTC is such a great company? I've owned nearly every single HTC phone Sprint has ever offered, and in stock form they typically get terrible battery life, and have pretty bad build quality. I went through 6 HTC Touch/Vogues before I got one with a decent screen... Went through 4 or 5 Touch Pros, (and even a Touch Diamond,) before returning them all for overheating issues and terrrrrible battery life... Also had lots of problems with the capacitive buttons peeling off and terrible light leakage.
I had to go through several Evo 4Gs as well... and if you read the forums, there are all sorts of quirky things depending on what screen you got, what hardware version, etc... I don't see how people can be so damn pleased about that? Every new HTC phone is the same way... initially people are foaming at the mouth and forget all the problems in the past, and can only think of one thing--root. I don't get it, unless you are that desparate for free tethering. The custom ROMs on the 4G were far buggier than the stock one...
It seems like people only want HTC phones because the devs fix all the amazingly terrible problems that the phones comes with... My friends and family with Samsung and Motorola smartphones tell me all the time how reliable and rock-solid (physically) their phones are. If the argument for HTC is AOSP... I don't get that either... typically you lose out on many benefits custom to that hardware, (like 720p on Evo 4G,) and general reliability... Why not just remove all the wigets? That's what I did on my Evo 3D... I didn't run a single HTC widget. Didn't even sync fb for HTC, because it's such a battery hog.
To me, this whole "unlocked bootloader or DIE" mentality is just a bandwagon that people can jump on and feel like they belong. I would have stayed with my Evo 3D if it didn't send so many calls to voicemail, and had a half-way decent speaker. Things that I'm hoping the Photon can offer.
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I'm still waiting to see if Sprint is going to sell the Galaxy S II. The Photon has my interest pending if the bootloader will be locked or not. The Samsung Within is on the top of my wish list, however...
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Isn't the photon a tablet ? LOL also from what i read on the net the Samsung galaxy s 2 wasn't comin to the USA no news on it . Everyone is sayin its not coming I don't see it coming here any time soon.
History: I had an Evo then few months ago got the Evo3D.
I had been waiting for this phone since it was announced around Feb 2011. Now I've had it for almost 2 weeks and with the 15 day return policy I have 2 more days to keep it return. I still have my E3D and I paid $499 for this phone.
Decision Time:
Pro's:
Screen resolution, smooth scrolling, cool camera 8/10, 16GB internal plus SD, slim and light
Con's:
No NFC, touch screen not as responsive, screen size requires mostly both hands to navigate, USB pluged on computer doesn't show up (only way I found to access my GB is wifi kies), keyboard lag as I'm typing right now. I'm sure an update will fix most of the problems.
Now, Im big on tech yet I feel this phone or another phone should feed my tech thirst for atleast 6months, with no nfc I feel like I paid $499 for sexiness and looks. Had this phone NFC no doubt I wouldn't consider returning this hotness. I read ATT and Tmobile version will have nfc kinda bummer.
I'm really looking forward to using google wallet, bust out my phone type my pin and transaction paid, no CC... My delema is IF I return this, is there any other sexy phones coming to sprint equiped with NFC (nexus prime). I dont mind holding back until November bur doesnt look like anything is popping.
Totally confused, any opinions suggestions?
I don't have this phone, but looking at your cons, I would return it.
Alex1x said:
History: I had an Evo then few months ago got the Evo3D.
I had been waiting for this phone since it was announced around Feb 2011. Now I've had it for almost 2 weeks and with the 15 day return policy I have 2 more days to keep it return. I still have my E3D and I paid $499 for this phone.
Decision Time:
Pro's:
Screen resolution, smooth scrolling, cool camera 8/10, 16GB internal plus SD, slim and light
Con's:
No NFC, touch screen not as responsive, screen size requires mostly both hands to navigate, USB pluged on computer doesn't show up (only way I found to access my GB is wifi kies), keyboard lag as I'm typing right now. I'm sure an update will fix most of the problems.
Now, Im big on tech yet I feel this phone or another phone should feed my tech thirst for atleast 6months, with no nfc I feel like I paid $499 for sexiness and looks. Had this phone NFC no doubt I wouldn't consider returning this hotness. I read ATT and Tmobile version will have nfc kinda bummer.
I'm really looking forward to using google wallet, bust out my phone type my pin and transaction paid, no CC... My delema is IF I return this, is there any other sexy phones coming to sprint equiped with NFC (nexus prime). I dont mind holding back until November bur doesnt look like anything is popping.
Totally confused, any opinions suggestions?
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Evo3D doesn't have NFC either. I personally don't see any of the problems you're suffering from. My computer recognizes my phone fine, and I can transfer files to and from it, or it's SD card without using Kies. I have yet to experience keyboard lag (though I switched the keyboard because I hate swype). I also don't have a problem navigating it with one had, but that's definitely based on your hands and preference. I've also never had my touch screen not be responsive.
I had the 3D before the Epic Touch and I'm still somewhat on the fence about trading it back out for an Evo3D again. I love this phone, but I loved other things about the 3D (including the HUGE dev following it has). I'll likely end up keeping the Epic though, because I do feel it's substantially faster, and I like the bigger screen.
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I don't have this phone, but looking at your cons, I would return it.
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I want to get a new phone, if I return this and willing to wait until this holiday season, what should I get or hold out on? Dont get me wrong this phone is nice. BIG plus for 16GB internal memory and Im sure most cons will be fixed with an update (too much buzz and drama for sprint and samsung to ignore).
Again if you had the choice to get this or Anything else coming out this holiday season... ????
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I want to get a new phone, if I return this and willing to wait until this holiday season, what should I get or hold out on? Dont get me wrong this phone is nice. BIG plus for 16GB internal memory and Im sure most cons will be fixed with an update (too much buzz and drama for sprint and samsung to ignore).
Again if you had the choice to get this or Anything else coming out this holiday season... ????
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I'd look to the Nexus Prime, but I'm not sure on the release date yet.
I cant make up my mind. I guess I want to see what majority of members say and Ill go on that.
Lonewuhf said:
I'd look to the Nexus Prime, but I'm not sure on the release date yet.
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Not sure on a release date and I would also bet money that Verizon will probably get it first since don't have the gsII
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Bigjim1488 said:
Not sure on a release date and I would also bet money that Verizon will probably get it first since don't have the gsII
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Agreed. So... To keep or not to keep?
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Agreed. So... To keep or not to keep?
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I'd keep it. Worse case you can sell it on eBay or Craigslist and pick up the prime when it comes out.
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But I would go and exchange yours because the screen shouldn't be giving you touch response issues.
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Nobody knows if the Nexus Prime will even come to Sprint. This phone is king right now so I don't know what your problem is. Splitting hairs a little too much maybe? Nothig will ever be perfect for some people. No offense. 3 months after the Prime comes out something else will be better then people will complain about that.
But if you're that unhappy stick to your E3D and return this one.
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Nobody knows if the Nexus Prime will even come to Sprint. This phone is king right now so I don't know what your problem is. Splitting hairs a little too much maybe? Nothig will ever be perfect for some people. No offense. 3 months after the Prime comes out something else will be better then people will complain about that.
But if you're that unhappy stick to your E3D and return this one.
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Sprint No NFC
ATT & Tmobile Yes NFC
Verizon nexus prime Yes NFC
NFC will rule by end of the year
NFC really? Not that big a deal right now very and I mean very few places even use it yet. Future proof sure but for the next year you'd be fine NFC lol. It will be great when it gets more mainstream. As for screen I haven't seen any screen lag either. Keyboard try another keyboard. USB plug works on PC and MAC just fine, got drivers?
pretty sure the prime isn't going to have the Exynos processor. I think the prime is going to basically be the samsung hercules for sprint with the 1.5 ghz qualcomm processor. An inferior processor. I'll see you when I'm running kernels and roms months from now trying to break the 5500 mark barrier and beyond on quadrant overclocked. This thing is raw power in the nicest package you can get it in. U want NFC go at&t and lose the screen. Sounds like you don't like the extra real estate anyways. The prime is gonna be the same screen.
Rumors say 1.5 ghz ti omap 4460.. So we don't know how good the processor will be.. And from what I read that processor was delayed until early 2012 so wit the tell knows what the prime will have now
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There are only 150,000 locations across the entire continental United States that currently accept NFC. You do know that we don't even have the resources to install the NFC receivers even if there was demand within years yet alone a year right? NFC if it became very popular and essential for business's due to demands would take years to become widespread. At least 3 years at the very earliest. Well outside of everyone's plan agreements. I even expect a very slow start due to peoples comfort with credit card transactions and initial worry about possible security liabilities amongst the general public.
You need to enable USB Debugging if you want to be able to view the phone to show up as a USB Drive. I'm not sure about the keyboard lag and the screen has been plenty responsive for me though it's not the most responsive screen ever which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Rumors say 1.5 ghz ti omap 4460.. So we don't know how good the processor will be
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From what I gather the Exynos set up with it's GPU won't be matched by the 4460. The Exynos will out process the 4460 across the board. Also I read that samsung is forced to use the 4460 because it supports 42 + HSPA for t-mobile and the like. It's a weaker processor set up that supports a special kind of wireless connectivity is why samsung is forced to use it. If I'm not mistaken it will be in the t-mobile variant of the GS II so we'll have benchmarks within a matter of weeks. Now mind you, t-mobile was the only carrier not to allow access to their phone at the samsung press event. I would gather it's because their phone benchmarks lower than the sprint and att versions.
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I want NFC myself, but you're kidding youself if you think NFC will become even popular within the next 2-3 years. I give it 5 years before it becomes kind of mainstream. Even paypass isn't full deployed yet and it has been around for more than 10 years.
The list of things this device doesnt have keeps getting longer. I could deal with the old tech resolution, no NFC... Yeah that sucks, but whatever. It's still pretty early in that game anyhow. But the thing that bugs me most is that it's looking more and more like no Rev B when Sprint upgrades its 3G network. Would have at least let the wife keep mine, but not now. Sending it back. If it turns out later the device supports Rev B and the Prime doesnt come or isn't what it's hyped up to be, I might consider picking up another GSII.
The title says it all. I am wondering if anybody heard if the Captivate (galaxy) glide will be receiving the 4.0 ICS update? I know its more than capable of running it!
http://www.techeh.ca/2011/11/what-phones-will-get-android-4-0-ics/
Sorry no info as of yet on this site for us. Just thought you might like to see which phones are getting it according to this site.
JB
Its listed there as galaxy s glide. Rogers. Same thing diffrent carrier from canada, this phone will definatly get it, why else have a powerful chip in the phone
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the Galaxy S devices are not going to get official ICS.
Our glide, if the boot logo serves me correct, is a Galaxy S (not SGS2).
But Galaxy S devices are capable of running ICS smoothly, so we just need devs that can get their hands on the captivate glide and port.
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the Galaxy S devices are not going to get official ICS.
Our glide, if the boot logo serves me correct, is a Galaxy S (not SGS2).
But Galaxy S devices are capable of running ICS smoothly, so we just need devs that can get their hands on the captivate glide and port.
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Even though our device is branded as 'S', I don't think it it is part of the S lineup so there is still hope.
The Glide is Galaxy S in name only, specs are completely different.
That site lists the OS as 2.2. The Captivate Glide (at least in the US) has 2.3.
Does the Rogers version only have 2.2?
Phoenix84118 said:
The Glide is Galaxy S in name only, specs are completely different.
That site lists the OS as 2.2. The Captivate Glide (at least in the US) has 2.3.
Does the Rogers version only have 2.2?
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Nope always had 2.3 and I bought it on launch.
Isn't the glide based off of the S2 since we have a dual processor. Fine smaller screen and not Super Amoled Plus.
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The Captivate Glide is technically a Galaxy S model. Even though it has a much more powerful chip I don't see it getting official ice cream sandwich. It hasn't done well in retail and that speaks for itself. There's probably a 95% chance that it will not get an update by Samsung to official ICS. They will be much more focused on their Galaxy SII line, galaxy nexus, and their upcoming Galaxy SIII model (rumored to be announced next month at Mobile World Congress). Unfortunately the Glide is just a little fish lost in the sea of Samsung devices.
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The Captivate Glide is technically a Galaxy S model. Even though it has a much more powerful chip I don't see it getting official ice cream sandwich. It hasn't done well in retail and that speaks for itself. There's probably a 95% chance that it will not get an update by Samsung to official ICS. They will be much more focused on their Galaxy SII line, galaxy nexus, and their upcoming Galaxy SIII model (rumored to be announced next month at Mobile World Congress). Unfortunately the Glide is just a little fish lost in the sea of Samsung devices.
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According to Wikipedia it's technically part of the S II line. Despite being named for the Captivate, a member of the original Galaxy S line, the Glide is part of the Galaxy S II series of phones. It is also listed as a variant of the S II. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_S_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Captivate_Glide
Also not releasing an update to a phone that is high end and just a few months out is super scummy even for Samsung.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
Samsung will release it. AT&T on the other hand is notorious for delaying updates...even never releasing them ie; X10.
We need our devs. To beat samsung to the prize rom aha I think no matter what specs are in this device the master minds here can make pretty much anything happen
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Is anybody else pissed because this phone is awesome and under-rated? I switched my atrix 4G for this and will never turn back. Much nicer screen, the samsung theme is nicer (removed motoblur ASAP) , everything seems to run more fluidly, and it has a keyboard to boot!
This phone needs more attention for sure!
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Is anybody else pissed because this phone is awesome and under-rated? I switched my atrix 4G for this and will never turn back. Much nicer screen, the samsung theme is nicer (removed motoblur ASAP) , everything seems to run more fluidly, and it has a keyboard to boot!
This phone needs more attention for sure!
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Totally, heh.
I could never use a phone without a qwerty keyboard. Losing half the screen any time you want to enter data is so awful.
But, apparently we are alone in this assessment.
lambgx02 said:
Totally, heh.
I could never use a phone without a qwerty keyboard. Losing half the screen any time you want to enter data is so awful.
But, apparently we are alone in this assessment.
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Not entirely alone - on the CDMA side of the house, HTC has at least 2 or 3 QWERTY options... But ya for a GSM phone, the Glide is the only smartphone with a dual-core processor, more than a half gig of RAM, a MicroSD slot, and QWERTY
I've tried using swype to text message and it... has not turned out well :-\
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Totally, heh.
I could never use a phone without a qwerty keyboard. Losing half the screen any time you want to enter data is so awful.
But, apparently we are alone in this assessment.
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Yeah, I let my fears about the Glide not getting ICS chase me over to the Skyrocket, and while it's a great phone and typing on it isn't exactly awful, I really do miss having a big landscape keyboard. I make a lot more errors, and I wouldn't want to type anything really long on it, where with my old phone I could bang out a whole article if I wanted to without slowing down.
Everyone will tell you it doesn't matter and you'll get used to it (and to some extent you do), but they're wrong. If you do a lot of typing, there's no substitute for a nice keyboard.
But my last phone was the Backflip, and I'm not going through having an unsupported phone for 2 years again, so I let myself get scared off. Overcompensating, perhaps.
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Not entirely alone - on the CDMA side of the house, HTC has at least 2 or 3 QWERTY options... But ya for a GSM phone, the Glide is the only smartphone with a dual-core processor, more than a half gig of RAM, a MicroSD slot, and QWERTY
I've tried using swype to text message and it... has not turned out well :-\
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Like most Glide owners, a QWERTY keyboard is a must for me. I will say though, once you suffer through the "getting used to" and "it getting used to you" stages with Swype, it is amazing for touch screen typing. But like Frogacuda mentioned, the QWERTY is a must for typing anything long and that's why I have the Glide and not a SGS2.
I think we can say that just about everyone that bought a glide did so for the Dual core and Qwerty keyboard. It is the best Qwerty keyboard android phone has to date. Sure I looked at the S2 but I just wanted a Qwerty since my last phone has issues with its touch screen (not capacitive). For quick things I use swipe for anything over 3 words I use the Qwerty.
I earlier used EPIC and now getting Glide... I need to send few SMS a day with details of LR number and truck numbers... For that purpose, pure touch only KB (even swype) is NOT-enough...
I also have hope Sammy will bring ICS to atleast its dual-core phones... Imho, there will be no room for any excuse if they didn't (ofcourse, unless AT&T is not ready for updating)
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I also have hope Sammy will bring ICS to atleast its dual-core phones... Imho, there will be no room for any excuse if they didn't (ofcourse, unless AT&T is not ready for updating)
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I agree until you say something about AT&T - they're notorious for being slow to update, but that should have no bearing on whether Samsung releases a build for a phone that was only publicly released 3 months ago. Also of note is the fact that Rogers (of Canada) also has this phone in their product line (SGH-i927R) - and is _not-evil_ enough to leave out Carrier IQ in their stock image
Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
The new colors and the active weren't a big shocker to me since I'd rather have a good screen and specs than a bit more durable device. The mega wasn't much to me either but the S4 Advanced is.. Even though tmobile barely just got lte now it wouldn't have too much function besides the new process but still.. Id like to have some safety in buying something new and not having buyers remorse for not waiting for the next best thing so soon.
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Yeah it is so aggravating
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Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
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I want a device that gives me a sense of security of having the top support. For Samsung to immediately dump us like this could be their weakest point. I just bought it a week ago and to hear something new may be coming just pisses me off. No wonder I was considering apple
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*shudder* no, my friend, you still chose wisely. The S4 is an amazing phone, and I love it. I'm mostly just making a comment on how I don't like the direction Samsung is going... They're getting very greedy and flooding the market with S4 labeled everything....it's a sure-fire way to turn people off to the brand. And if this advanced version comes to light and is released shortly, then this will be my last Samsung branded phone. I bought an S4 because I thought it would be Samsung's flagship top-tier smartphone, but apparently it is already obsolete after two months. This would be welcome if a competitor released a phone that wiped the floor with the S4, but to have the same manufacturer do it....that's simply a greedy, consumer-alienating move.
It almost feels like they're punishing the early adopters.
"See all the cool **** we could've put in your phone but chose not to?"
im really pissed about the s4 advanced. its a huge screw you to those of us who bought the phone in may. its only been what, a month and a half? Not to mention that us 16 gig users got especially boned. Isnt this rapid release cycle one of the contributing factors of htc's slow suicide? this may very well be the last samsung phone i buy. ive been eyeing the sony experia line for a while. Time to do some research
I might go with the iPhone
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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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I can't keep up with samsung too, when s3 came out I just bought my s2 couple of months ago which is really irritating, I have yet to enjoy the features of this awesome smart phone and next thing I knew my friends are buying s3 like it's going out of style..
The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
oblivion0 said:
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
You guys should already know this is going to happen. When you buy a new phone, there's always going to be a new one coming out. With the person saying they bought an s2 then s3 came out in few months. You should already know it was coming out, it happens every year. You don't buy a new phone after months of being released then complain about it when a new one came out
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
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Yes, I'm referring to the International G4 update. There's a T-Mobile leak available, but from what I understand it's buggy.
I was on ET4G as well, and Sextape is awesome.
This argument seems moot. Do you even think T-Mobile would pick up the S4 Advance? I very highly doubt it. If what you really wanted was the "best", why not shell out the money for the international version with octa-core back in May? Because of the lack of LTE is my guess, but T-Mobile's LTE coverage is so sparse it seems pointless.
This variant will remain well supported into the future - as far as smartphone lifespans go. This is not the HTC One story. HTC kept releasing variants because there were crappy flaws and they couldn't get it right.
We all seem to be pretty well plugged into the rumor mill, so news and, based on history, the expectation of color variants should've been no surprise. And the Active has been known for quite some time. We are a "Want it now!" group which is why we couldn't even wait a month for the initial price drop.
If you really need the Snapdragon 800, you can still commanda premium for this phone on ebay to pay your way. But, I would think the development is going to be very sparse compared to this one - FAR fewer people will have that phone. Hell, right now we can run any rom from any carrier, plus the international 9505.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
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The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
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Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
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Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
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Exactly and korea is getting this first the u.s. will not see this until next year at the earliest. There are no advanced lte networks in place yet but guess who will be in the best shape for it....Tmobile because they have the newest lte equipment out there that there are using now across the country. So I am not mad at them it would have been a different story if it was coming now but it's still awhile before we see it. I am more pissed off about the lack of internal space and not being moving apps to sd card. Hope we get the same update to fix this soon like the intetnational model. That's my only beef right now.
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I dont think the op is out to chase the next best thing but rather, the business aspect of samsung.
But hey, Lt advance, and w.e spec is being added to the phone doesn't really bother me if i dont have it. My phone is blazing fast. With AOSP/AOKP it runs faster than my finger can catch up because of the specs it currently have. Infamous manage to squeeze 5+ hours of battery life out of it and evil managed to make it as smooth as silk.
So I am not complaining , if i say I will be chasing the next best thing with my money as someone of you clearly have that mindset going on in here, I will be more broke than my two years old baby cousin. If not broke, will just walk around with that green envious eyes and no one got time for that, clearly im too lazy for that. It is differenty if you got the s2 than the s3 came out (the obvious difference in the phone is MINDBLOWING)
But from the s4 lt..to s4 lt advance, water proof s4, to w.e else s4 is out there...I'm good. I can still sleep at night knowing my phone is better than 7/8 of my whole block if it is about being satisfy with the next being thing.