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HDMI thru USB possible after an update. Can WE DO IT?

http://www.talkandroid.com/8164-galaxy-s-to-have-micr-usb-to-hdmi-output/
anyone hear more about this??
and just found this saying the american Galaxy S versions will support it
http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-does-microusb-to-hdmi
that would include captivate model
more reading.. (below) samsung states its possible after an update. other reading says it may sacrifice ability to use docking station.
samsung has abandond update idea and pulled cables from release.
CAN WE PULL IT OFF??

Trusselo said:
http://www.talkandroid.com/8164-galaxy-s-to-have-micr-usb-to-hdmi-output/
anyone hear more about this??
and just found this saying the american Galaxy S versions will support it
http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-does-microusb-to-hdmi
that would include captivate model
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This is old news. I don't think anyone was ever able to get it to work. There was also issues with the cable itself.

yeah found that after too. another abandoned promise from samsung.
was going to be available after software update. cable was even posted on their site coming soon. now removed. now samsung doubts they will do 2.3, HIGHLY doubt they would ever update the HDMI capabilities.

yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.

Dani897 said:
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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The specs for Infuse does not have HDMI out. Samsung has gone the route of DLNA like our current Captivate using AllShare.

Dani897 said:
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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Samsung has never been afraid of devaluing their devices. I worked for at&t until March of 2010, and I can say honestly that I have seen some crazy samsung stunts.
Example of Gimping one model to not devalue another:
BlackBerry Bold 9000 - 3G, WIFI.
BlackBerry Curve 8900 - EDGE, WIFI.
Why is the 8900 3G on every carrier that supports it EXCEPT at&t? Because they didn't want to devalue the Bold 9000. On other carriers, the 8900 was the top-end 3G BlackBerry, but not on at&t.
Example of Samsung not giving a damn:
Samsung Eternity. Great feature phone, pretty decent touch screen, overall good device. I owned two, personally. My youngest sister and her then-boyfriend both owned one each.
Samsung Propel. Another great feature phone, with a slide-out QWERTY. Bought them for my mother, my other sister, my brother-in-law. None of them had complaints.
Shortly after:
Samsung Solstice, Samsung Mythic... both replaced the Eternity.
Samsung Flight, a Propel with a touch-screen. (Replaced my mother's Propel with the Flight though... trying to get her into touch-screen first, then transition her to android!)
Samsung didn't care how heavily stocked we were on the Propel, the Eternity and the Impression. They dropped those new phones like it was no big deal.
So, I wouldn't count on dual-core. Samsung likes to generate as much buzz early on as possible to get people talking about their new phones... hardware is -always- secondary to them. The thing they hold back until just before release is the UI. The Mythic is a great example... almost the exact same specs as the Eternity, but the UI is what they held back to just before release and what was it? Some god-awful slow iPhone knock-off UI.
They LOVE the horizontal scrolling in the 'app drawer'. They did it with the Mythic, then with TouchWiz. Bleh.

Should I return my Epic Touch 4G?

History: I had an Evo then few months ago got the Evo3D.
I had been waiting for this phone since it was announced around Feb 2011. Now I've had it for almost 2 weeks and with the 15 day return policy I have 2 more days to keep it return. I still have my E3D and I paid $499 for this phone.
Decision Time:
Pro's:
Screen resolution, smooth scrolling, cool camera 8/10, 16GB internal plus SD, slim and light
Con's:
No NFC, touch screen not as responsive, screen size requires mostly both hands to navigate, USB pluged on computer doesn't show up (only way I found to access my GB is wifi kies), keyboard lag as I'm typing right now. I'm sure an update will fix most of the problems.
Now, Im big on tech yet I feel this phone or another phone should feed my tech thirst for atleast 6months, with no nfc I feel like I paid $499 for sexiness and looks. Had this phone NFC no doubt I wouldn't consider returning this hotness. I read ATT and Tmobile version will have nfc kinda bummer.
I'm really looking forward to using google wallet, bust out my phone type my pin and transaction paid, no CC... My delema is IF I return this, is there any other sexy phones coming to sprint equiped with NFC (nexus prime). I dont mind holding back until November bur doesnt look like anything is popping.
Totally confused, any opinions suggestions?

I don't have this phone, but looking at your cons, I would return it.

Alex1x said:
History: I had an Evo then few months ago got the Evo3D.
I had been waiting for this phone since it was announced around Feb 2011. Now I've had it for almost 2 weeks and with the 15 day return policy I have 2 more days to keep it return. I still have my E3D and I paid $499 for this phone.
Decision Time:
Pro's:
Screen resolution, smooth scrolling, cool camera 8/10, 16GB internal plus SD, slim and light
Con's:
No NFC, touch screen not as responsive, screen size requires mostly both hands to navigate, USB pluged on computer doesn't show up (only way I found to access my GB is wifi kies), keyboard lag as I'm typing right now. I'm sure an update will fix most of the problems.
Now, Im big on tech yet I feel this phone or another phone should feed my tech thirst for atleast 6months, with no nfc I feel like I paid $499 for sexiness and looks. Had this phone NFC no doubt I wouldn't consider returning this hotness. I read ATT and Tmobile version will have nfc kinda bummer.
I'm really looking forward to using google wallet, bust out my phone type my pin and transaction paid, no CC... My delema is IF I return this, is there any other sexy phones coming to sprint equiped with NFC (nexus prime). I dont mind holding back until November bur doesnt look like anything is popping.
Totally confused, any opinions suggestions?
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Evo3D doesn't have NFC either. I personally don't see any of the problems you're suffering from. My computer recognizes my phone fine, and I can transfer files to and from it, or it's SD card without using Kies. I have yet to experience keyboard lag (though I switched the keyboard because I hate swype). I also don't have a problem navigating it with one had, but that's definitely based on your hands and preference. I've also never had my touch screen not be responsive.
I had the 3D before the Epic Touch and I'm still somewhat on the fence about trading it back out for an Evo3D again. I love this phone, but I loved other things about the 3D (including the HUGE dev following it has). I'll likely end up keeping the Epic though, because I do feel it's substantially faster, and I like the bigger screen.

cashyftw said:
I don't have this phone, but looking at your cons, I would return it.
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I want to get a new phone, if I return this and willing to wait until this holiday season, what should I get or hold out on? Dont get me wrong this phone is nice. BIG plus for 16GB internal memory and Im sure most cons will be fixed with an update (too much buzz and drama for sprint and samsung to ignore).
Again if you had the choice to get this or Anything else coming out this holiday season... ????

Alex1x said:
I want to get a new phone, if I return this and willing to wait until this holiday season, what should I get or hold out on? Dont get me wrong this phone is nice. BIG plus for 16GB internal memory and Im sure most cons will be fixed with an update (too much buzz and drama for sprint and samsung to ignore).
Again if you had the choice to get this or Anything else coming out this holiday season... ????
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I'd look to the Nexus Prime, but I'm not sure on the release date yet.

I cant make up my mind. I guess I want to see what majority of members say and Ill go on that.

Lonewuhf said:
I'd look to the Nexus Prime, but I'm not sure on the release date yet.
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Not sure on a release date and I would also bet money that Verizon will probably get it first since don't have the gsII
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Bigjim1488 said:
Not sure on a release date and I would also bet money that Verizon will probably get it first since don't have the gsII
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Agreed. So... To keep or not to keep?

Alex1x said:
Agreed. So... To keep or not to keep?
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I'd keep it. Worse case you can sell it on eBay or Craigslist and pick up the prime when it comes out.
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But I would go and exchange yours because the screen shouldn't be giving you touch response issues.
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Nobody knows if the Nexus Prime will even come to Sprint. This phone is king right now so I don't know what your problem is. Splitting hairs a little too much maybe? Nothig will ever be perfect for some people. No offense. 3 months after the Prime comes out something else will be better then people will complain about that.
But if you're that unhappy stick to your E3D and return this one.
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AvatarOfFrost said:
Nobody knows if the Nexus Prime will even come to Sprint. This phone is king right now so I don't know what your problem is. Splitting hairs a little too much maybe? Nothig will ever be perfect for some people. No offense. 3 months after the Prime comes out something else will be better then people will complain about that.
But if you're that unhappy stick to your E3D and return this one.
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Sprint No NFC
ATT & Tmobile Yes NFC
Verizon nexus prime Yes NFC
NFC will rule by end of the year

NFC really? Not that big a deal right now very and I mean very few places even use it yet. Future proof sure but for the next year you'd be fine NFC lol. It will be great when it gets more mainstream. As for screen I haven't seen any screen lag either. Keyboard try another keyboard. USB plug works on PC and MAC just fine, got drivers?

pretty sure the prime isn't going to have the Exynos processor. I think the prime is going to basically be the samsung hercules for sprint with the 1.5 ghz qualcomm processor. An inferior processor. I'll see you when I'm running kernels and roms months from now trying to break the 5500 mark barrier and beyond on quadrant overclocked. This thing is raw power in the nicest package you can get it in. U want NFC go at&t and lose the screen. Sounds like you don't like the extra real estate anyways. The prime is gonna be the same screen.

Rumors say 1.5 ghz ti omap 4460.. So we don't know how good the processor will be.. And from what I read that processor was delayed until early 2012 so wit the tell knows what the prime will have now

Alex1x said:
Sprint No NFC
ATT & Tmobile Yes NFC
Verizon nexus prime Yes NFC
NFC will rule by end of the year
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There are only 150,000 locations across the entire continental United States that currently accept NFC. You do know that we don't even have the resources to install the NFC receivers even if there was demand within years yet alone a year right? NFC if it became very popular and essential for business's due to demands would take years to become widespread. At least 3 years at the very earliest. Well outside of everyone's plan agreements. I even expect a very slow start due to peoples comfort with credit card transactions and initial worry about possible security liabilities amongst the general public.

You need to enable USB Debugging if you want to be able to view the phone to show up as a USB Drive. I'm not sure about the keyboard lag and the screen has been plenty responsive for me though it's not the most responsive screen ever which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

jayv1717 said:
Rumors say 1.5 ghz ti omap 4460.. So we don't know how good the processor will be
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From what I gather the Exynos set up with it's GPU won't be matched by the 4460. The Exynos will out process the 4460 across the board. Also I read that samsung is forced to use the 4460 because it supports 42 + HSPA for t-mobile and the like. It's a weaker processor set up that supports a special kind of wireless connectivity is why samsung is forced to use it. If I'm not mistaken it will be in the t-mobile variant of the GS II so we'll have benchmarks within a matter of weeks. Now mind you, t-mobile was the only carrier not to allow access to their phone at the samsung press event. I would gather it's because their phone benchmarks lower than the sprint and att versions.

Alex1x said:
Sprint No NFC
ATT & Tmobile Yes NFC
Verizon nexus prime Yes NFC
NFC will rule by end of the year
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I want NFC myself, but you're kidding youself if you think NFC will become even popular within the next 2-3 years. I give it 5 years before it becomes kind of mainstream. Even paypass isn't full deployed yet and it has been around for more than 10 years.

The list of things this device doesnt have keeps getting longer. I could deal with the old tech resolution, no NFC... Yeah that sucks, but whatever. It's still pretty early in that game anyhow. But the thing that bugs me most is that it's looking more and more like no Rev B when Sprint upgrades its 3G network. Would have at least let the wife keep mine, but not now. Sending it back. If it turns out later the device supports Rev B and the Prime doesnt come or isn't what it's hyped up to be, I might consider picking up another GSII.

If you have a Galaxy S2 (i9100) don't bother with the Galaxy Nexus

I sold my GS2 to get the GN and I'm not too happy with my choice.
No mass storage mode is a killer for me, now I can't transfer my media easily.
The camera is not in anyway better. In this case, more mega pixels does equate to better pictures.
No physical home button... oh how I miss it.
The lack of a microSD card slot is the finishing blow for me!
I loved my GS2, I wish I never sold it! ICS Is coming to the GS2 anyways.
Damned my gadget obsession!
Just my 2 cents.

Cool story bro.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.

didn't you know that GN doesn't have microSD slot, phisical/sensor buttons and have 5mp camera?
if you didn't know this before buying you must be not very clever man or you really suffering from some kind of obsession.

vADimko said:
didn't you know that GN doesn't have microSD slot, phisical/sensor buttons and have 5mp camera?
if you didn't know this before buying you must be not very clever man or you really suffering from some kind of obsession.
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EXACTLY. All of these complaints (except camera, I guess that's subjective) were known before purchasing lol.

I have no idea why you would ever swap a Galaxy SII for the Galaxy Nexus. Especially that it has pretty much been confirmed that it's getting ICS. In fact, even to this day I would personally prefer the SII if I could get one. Unfortunately, Verizon thought it "wouldn't compete with the iPhone 4S enough" and decided to pass it up for the G-Nex. So I'm kinda stuck now. Not going to lie, I'm disappointed with this phone's hardware specs. Most of the other issues are due to ICS not being fully supported yet so I'll have to wait.

The only thing that is worth it is the screen.

Indeed I have an obsession, I want the latest and greatest.
Unfortunetly, this is not the greatest.
There's too much hype in the gadget world regarding the GN and I fell for it.

You people are so defensive. The OPs commentaries are perfectly valid, especially coming from his FIRST HAND experience.

Being bloat and skin free have to count for something
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momagic said:
Indeed I have an obsession, I want the latest and greatest.
Unfortunetly, this is not the greatest.
There's too much hype in the gadget world regarding the GN and I fell for it.
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Always do your research before spending your money. It's not worth the loss later on as I'm sure you understand now.

On one hand I really want the Galaxy Nexus, with it being the latest phone on the market and all the hype behind it, but reading posts from people like the OP just make me think if it's really worth it and should I just spend less money to get a SGS II instead....

It's going to sell, an average consumer just wants a sleek, cool and overhyped phone. Not a geek gadget, no offence.
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LeanNSupreme said:
On one hand I really want the Galaxy Nexus, with it being the latest phone on the market and all the hype behind it, but reading posts from people like the OP just make me think if it's really worth it and should I just spend less money to get a SGS II instead....
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If you have to think twice about using a pure Nexus device, then it isn't really meant for you.
I will only recommend the Galaxy Nexus to people new to Android, people who started off using Nexus devices and developers.
People coming from manufacturer android phones with pre-installed skins like HTC sense and Touch Wiz should probably stay away if they have no idea what stock Android is all about or if they are unwilling to understand stock Android.

I have a galaxy S2 right now....
the reason I'm moving to Galaxy nexus is because I want the same screen i had on the iphone 4. That alone would justify this and I like the fact that it all black in the front. Super sleek. Super clean.
The galaxy s2 has a better process, camera and all the extras. just like now the Galaxy S was a better than the Nexus S. ICS will come to the Galaxy S2 but it will take time and probably won't be out until march or april. If thats the case, I would rather downgrade my phone just to have to latest and greatests.
My friend has a epic 4g from sprint USA (galaxy S) they just got their gingerbread. They JUST GOT IT. if that happens to my galaxy s2 then i would rather move to a new phone. This fragmentation is really annoying.

does that mean you will sell ur GN OP lol??? i'll take it lmfao

LeanNSupreme said:
On one hand I really want the Galaxy Nexus, with it being the latest phone on the market and all the hype behind it, but reading posts from people like the OP just make me think if it's really worth it and should I just spend less money to get a SGS II instead....
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Save yourself some money, get the European i9100 (GS2). It's more powerful and you will be far more pleased.
With the money you save, hold on to it for a few months and guaranteed, a much better phone will come out.

DammitCubs said:
I have a galaxy S2 right now....
the reason I'm moving to Galaxy nexus is because I want the same screen i had on the iphone 4. That alone would justify this and I like the fact that it all black in the front. Super sleek. Super clean.
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lol same reason here. I love the bezel its very clean. The Amaze bezel is ugly despite the back being beautiful (in white IMO)

DammitCubs said:
I would rather downgrade my phone
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It's exactly that, a downgrade.
All the people posting about pure Google etc.... does it really matter? I was using stock android (well, Cyanogen) on my GS2 but from FIRST HAND experience it was not worth the move.
P.s, not going to sell it (yet) you never know, there maybe a way to get mass storage working or at least transfer files over.

open1your1eyes0 said:
I have no idea why you would ever swap a Galaxy SII for the Galaxy Nexus. Especially that it has pretty much been confirmed that it's getting ICS. In fact, even to this day I would personally prefer the SII if I could get one. Unfortunately, Verizon thought it "wouldn't compete with the iPhone 4S enough" and decided to pass it up for the G-Nex. So I'm kinda stuck now. Not going to lie, I'm disappointed with this phone's hardware specs. Most of the other issues are due to ICS not being fully supported yet so I'll have to wait.
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I currently have a GS2 and will be changing to the GN when it releases here in the States (on VZW). Why? 720p screen, software buttons, and as close to a pure device as one can get anymore. The cons of the device really don't bother me, so I'll be more than happy with the Nexus.

hotleadsingerguy said:
I currently have a GS2 and will be changing to the GN when it releases here in the States (on VZW). Why? 720p screen, software buttons, and as close to a pure device as one can get anymore. The cons of the device really don't bother me, so I'll be more than happy with the Nexus.
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720p screen - Valid point but not worth it if you have to sacrifice downgrades in other major hardware (CPU/GPU/Camera/etc...)
Software buttons - This is really considered an upgrade to you?
Pure Device - Software is port-able and moddable, this is a very moot point and I think is vastly overrated
My question is more of how you have a SII on Verizon right now? (unless you're planning to switch to Verizon now just to get the GN in which I have no comment then)

The Nexus brand should come to an end...

I really think Google needs to do a HUGE investment into the Development and QA department for Android. Android is huge and requires more attention then they are giving it. Google really needs to get more hands on Android and better testing so less buggy software gets out of the gate.
I have owned all of the Nexus phones and they are always pretty buggy until a few updates later.
I currently have to deal with slow screen rotation, multi-touch issues, laggy landscape keyboard response and crashes, SMS text bugs, Wifi bugs to name a few. How in the hell did the slow screen rotation and laggy landscape response go unnoticed is beyond me. I noticed it the first day i got the phone.
The NEXUS brand should come to an end, its essentially just like buying an iphone…….you pay extra for it, and its no better than anything else out there, or less than anything else out there.
The problem is Nexus is no longer a developer phone. Its now a brand. I knew i was not getting this nexus because sammy had there hands on it.

are you on 4.0.1?, 4.0.2? 4.0.3?
is your phone rooted?
are you running the GSM version or the CDMA version of the galaxy nexus?
is it stock android O.S.?

I don't have any of those issues on mine....

I'm running stock 4.0.2, getting software updates firectly from Google not samsung.
Everyone says the only reason you should buy Nexus phones is because they are so much better than other manufacturers phones. I'm not talking about rooting and such, because you can do that too with other phones and it would be the same.
It’s not just about timely updates. Even the 4.0.3 source code has bugs. This means that all these devices based off 4.0.3 can (and might) have the bugs as well. Then, you have to wait for Google to update the source and maybe just maybe your manufacturer of choice will update your phone before moving onto something else.

Well don't buy a Nexus device again. Then you don't have to worry about those problems, and the people who love the Nexus phone can continue to love it whilst you love your Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus thing that you buy.
Thats the good thing about Android, you have choice. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, Google aren't going to do anything about it. Find a phone that you like and use it.
Also, have you ever used another Android phone other then the Nexus? Carrier bloat and skins make me shudder.

I disagree with the paying extra. It's essentially like buying any other phone whereas, the iPhone would be $100-$300 more than other phones depending on the sku. I have no complaints with my Nexus but I'm not trying to argue with your dissatisfaction or defend the brand, I just don't see the paying extra part which obviously varies from country to country.
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mines never been laggy works really great

Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.

retskrad said:
I'm running stock 4.0.2, getting software updates firectly from Google not samsung.
Everyone says the only reason you should buy Nexus phones is because they are so much better than other manufacturers phones. I'm not talking about rooting and such, because you can do that too with other phones and it would be the same.
It’s not just about timely updates. Even the 4.0.3 source code has bugs. This means that all these devices based off 4.0.3 can (and might) have the bugs as well. Then, you have to wait for Google to update the source and maybe just maybe your manufacturer of choice will update your phone before moving onto something else.
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Rooting is one thing, but we like the nexus because of its bootloader and lack of bloat. Let's face it, iphone is easy mode, android(nexus) is expert mode.
Easy mode is... well.. easy. It is easy to master but gets stale incredibly fast and is lacking in features. Expert mode you have to read a couple forums, do a little tweaking, but in the end you get a pro longed satisfying experience that is rich in features and really let's you become... a superuser.
Ps rotation delay is a feature, just tap the screen for it to rotate faster.
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MistaBishi said:
Well don't buy a Nexus device again. Then you don't have to worry about those problems, and the people who love the Nexus phone can continue to love it whilst you love your Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus thing that you buy.
Thats the good thing about Android, you have choice. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, Google aren't going to do anything about it. Find a phone that you like and use it.
Also, have you ever used another Android phone other then the Nexus? Carrier bloat and skins make me shudder.
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I wanna try out the Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus.

Just for a little input, the rotation "Lag" that you talk about is supposed to be there. People were complaining that there phone would rotate to easily so they made lag so that just tilting your phone for a second wouldn't rotate it you had to actually want to rotate it. Takes an extra second, if that.
Also, ICS was released, you knew that when you bought the phone, you expect a completely clean product the second it comes out? Look at Apple with there battery bug, no OS comes out without it's fare share of bugs, Android is no different.
Also also, why cancel an entire line of phones because you have one mad customer? You don't.
Finally, Google picks a different handset maker every year to make their "Nexus" phone, just because "sammy" made it doesn't take away from the fact that it's a Nexus. Go buy a Razr with Motoblur and enjoy having a "Bug free enviroment" on an OS that is over a year old.

retskrad said:
Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
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OK fair enough but its pretty much an unspoken rule that you have to flash the **** out of a nexus phone. Unlocked bootloader and all that. Aosp etc.
Not being smart but you don't buy a formula one car to bring the kids to school.

retskrad said:
Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
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We considered that, and nobody cares. Thats the way the phone is, stop complaining about it and do something about it. We aren't you brain, do some thinking for yourself.
Root your phone if you want to fix the issues, or wait for Google to issue an update.

Nexus phones have historically been far cheaper than average. N1 and nexus s both sold for $529 from day 1. Only the Gnex broke this tradition.
Typical phone launches higher than $600.

anton2009 said:
I wanna try out the Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus.
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Na man, it's terrible. It's running this MotoTouchSenseWizBlur software. It's the worst skin out of the lot!

lol what kind of topic is this? nexus brand should to an end pfff
sorry to all hear you have all those bugs, im glad AOKP is smoother than ever on my nex

For reference, my last phone was a Palm Centro. Lasted 5+ years, bugs and all. I also work in the computer hardware industry, so while I am new to the current smartphone format and OS, I am versed in technology.
If you wanted something that was already polished out of the box, that's where the other Android and iPhone comes in. Works well out of the box depending on the model. If you want a 'pure' Android experience, the G. Nexus is the appealing one. I think in this case 'pure' is a bad word choice, as it denotes only good. However, it is both good and bad. In the 3 months I've owned the phone. I've def. thought to myself "****! I've got to fix this again!" AND "holy crap! this is way cooler than iOS!" It sucks that you have to extensively play with the phone, but once you do, the opportunities are much more appealing.
TL; DR: Don't buy something like a Nexus if you don't want to transform it to it's full potential.

Why are people still on stock on the Nexus....its a NEXUS!!
ITS A DEV PHONE!!!
you are SUPPOSED to hack it!!!
don't complain if stock doesn't have all that you want..
btw...i was on stock for 2 days...no bugs.

Ived owned two nexus phones and theyve been the best phones I have ever owned. Sometimes they do lack the performance other Androids have but the support/development for this phone is the best IMO.

Can we stop making these useless threads about how "Google is ignoring us", cause I can guarantee you they are probably working their asses off trying to get the next update to us before I/O.

[Q] I'm about to upgrade from...

Morotola Milestone 2... I'm looking to buy Samsung Captative Glide i927, the sub forum is a lot more active and there are plenty of diferent roms to choose from.
Is it a worthy upgrade from a MM2?
Thank you.

Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.

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Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide? Because this one I can get it in Argentina, for about 450-475 USD, brand new in box, unlocked.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
Still my account is not activated, I have to wait 5 min even to edit.
Edit2: neverming, I've just read the forum help.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?

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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide?
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Protip: never ask to ask, just ask. No one thinks it's rude, and even if the person doesn't get back to you, others may chime in.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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Speaking of LTE... if that's what you need, look at the Stratosphere II. Yes, it's VZW which is CDMA, but it's an international device meaning it also has a GSM radio, and supports all common LTE bands instead of just whatever VZW uses.
That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.

well...
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
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I think they do not even do HSPA+, but even so, I'm not in need of H+ or LTE/4G speeds, my plan only has 512mb/month and I'm barely using half of it, I do not travel a lot, I do comute a lot, and the rest of the time I have WiFi access (I work at IT), so there is that. I'm happy with the 4mb/1mb I get with the 3G, I mostly need it to check mails, be online, Skype, access some servers via RDP and reddit.
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As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
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Seeing that the Motorola Photon Q LTE has the SIM card soldered, I will try to see about the MM4. But yeah, I have to see if the hassle, and the waiting times are worth it to me, I had the MM2 for 13 months now, before that I have the Samsung Galaxy Spica (really really low end phone) but made me fell in love with Android.
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Will do, thank you.
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
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Crap, in the MM2 I dont even see the pixels (it is a 3.7" screen with 852*480). I tried to google some screen reviews of the Glide but found nothing, that bad is it? I wish I could see it before buying it...
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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As long there are some cool CM ROMs I'm up for it. The fact is that with my MM2 there are only 4, CM7.1 is totally dead, there is MS2GINGER (which I rather not) and CM10/10.1 which are painfully slow on my device. That is why I recon it is time to change, also I bought it used, so it was an old model when I bought it. I'm poor, and the prices are insane.
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That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
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I think I will keep researching and trying to cool off myself, I was about to pull the trigger on the Glide, but the pentile and 4row keyboard got me thinking, I has stuff that I like/want (1gb RAM, dual core, slide Keyboard) and stuff that I dont, pentile matrix and 4row keyboard. (mm2 also has 4 row keyboard, but I want an upgrade on everything if I'm putting a lotta money on it).
Would you recommend the Glide if the year were 2011/2?
Bottom line, I cant decide yet it seems. Thank you.
edit1: I'm about to pull the trigger on the Glide (it is theRogers version, so that makes it an i927R, that $2900[pesos] are about 467 USD official price or about 350usd black market us dollar price [black market dollar is abut 67% more than official one, the country is in the ****, dont be mistaken, is more than a half month salary of mine.), I've contacted the seller, and awaiting his/her reply.
Besides the pentile screen, on how bad could it be, how flat are the keys? are they totally flat? the action is clicky, springy or rubbery?
Thx again.

xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.

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xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB

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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB
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Sorry, but, I need to ask, why are you quoting me ?

Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB

Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.

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Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB
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No problem.
xtacb4 said:
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Hey, we live in the same country and speak the same language, helping you to choose the best Qwerty Phone was almost my responsability.
Also, I may have to rape you later

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...Also, I may have to rape you later
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I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3

xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !

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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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They took Sure to jail.

last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)

Androide3 said:
last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.

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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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Exactly !

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Exactly !
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+1

xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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+1
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Hey I too play BF3 add me on Origin same name DudeJB.
See you on the battlefield!
What are your account names?
JB

Talking about going offtopic... I'm not really playing Bf3 right now, that was the last time i even played, I somewhat switched to SC2, til i get bored and switch again.
Where should I report that with CM10.1 M3 (M2 too) my Morotola S305 BT headset has music and controls working ok? no phone audio though.